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What does Satan think of queer ppl?

When one wishes balanced state of being, hormonal treatments, manipulating genitalia via external measures and such are hardly any kind of realisic relief. Spiritual Satanist should aim to heal these sort of issues from inside out. I just wanted to say this so that some younger readers do not get wrong idea. We as SS have been granted much more privilege than those without when we talk about spiritual healing for example. This opportunity should not be neglected resorting to actions resulting in irreversible outcomes.
 
Meteor said:

When you face the problem head-on as you did, you are basically dealing with the full karmic impact. On the contrary, if you simply directed Munka energy to resolve it in a gentle manner, you would have much more success. Think of how someone with an addiction can fight all day and long, but relapse and hate themselves afterward. This is similar to what is happening here, where you are using the hard way to solve it and getting mad when it proves difficult.

If you have not tried it yet, then do so. If it hurts you, then simply stop, and turn back to the drawing board.

Do not forget your GD's advice, where they mentioned working on your masculine side first. If you developed that a bit more, it would give you both healing (irrespective of your gender), as well as the confidence and discipline to deal with these more difficult situations. In other words, it would progress with much less trauma.

You cannot expect yourself to have a quality that was not in your soul to begin with. Beating yourself up for being "weak" is counterproductive in a world where we can improve every aspect of ourselves. In this case, it means you should use Nauthiz, perhaps for increasing mental endurance.

You can also do a Mars Square, or soon a Sun Square, for increasing your confidence and other items ruled by these planets.

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You can also work on healing the lower chakras, which again, exist regardless of the changes to the physical body. This would also help you later deal with any trauma. You could also target removing any trauma you have experienced, not specific to any body part. This would be another manner of clearing out a lot of the pain, yet still not feeling forced to choose a path.

All these things I have mentioned, are items you would deal with even if you got gender surgery tomorrow. They may be related, yet still exist independently of the current status of your physical body.

There is no sense in beating yourself up when a certain method didn't work. In fact, it is good that you tried to approach the topic. Nonetheless, you faced an obstacle, so you have to think about how to get around it. This follows the concept of "work smart, not harder".

I think this is also exemplified by Ansuz, which can overcome obstacles of all kinds. Being air and related to freedom, it can also be used by you for freeing yourself from trauma, in a manner that is truly positive and "smart", not like running into a brick wall.
 
Meteor said:
Just a few weeks ago, I thought to myself: "Maybe giving in to my fears and my karma is a good thing. They show me a clear direction, a narrow path to escape a frightening reality. It doesn't matter if I'm not free, as long I can simply accept this fate and enjoy the ride."
In a way, it's frightening to know I'm capable of more, because then it feels like I have to justify my decisions. But that fear is only an illusion: the choice is still mine, so I should use it to my advantage. Some amount of fear can be good and healthy, as it can prevent one from making mistakes; but too much of it can get in the way, or even cause mistakes in its own right.

I think committing to things one finds important is a good thing, even if that means sacrificing other things; but rather than burning bridges, it's better to focus primarily on growing and expanding my options. That doesn't mean I shouldn't commit to anything, but it does mean I should let go of my habit of trying to convince myself that everything I didn't commit to was a terrible idea. If I really want to ensure that I choose the course of action that leads to the best outcome, then rather than trying to control my own thoughts and feelings through fear, I should face everything realistically and do my best to understand the consequences of my actions as fully as possible; so that "I didn't have any other choice" becomes: "I chose this, because I like this outcome the most."

Your karma pertains a lot to fear, and how that fear has driven you to certain actions. This is no different than when someone was traumatized in another way and now behaves differently because of it. Like if someone was attacked for speaking, and now they are overly quiet.

For many of our past lives, we truly didn't have any other choice. However, now we are reunited with Satan and the knowledge he brings. We have tools available for gaining true success and prosperity, not using half-baked solutions simply to survive.

Every single person that I have spoken to about their karma exhibits a degree of resistance. For example, with Saturn blocking an aspect of their life, they believe it will seemingly never change. Some people are better at recognizing their flaws than others. It can take some effort to envision a future for yourself that is free of these problems, but this must be done to allow yourself to take corrective steps.

As we grow, we learn what is safe and healthy to commit to, and what is wrong. For some people, they have committed to something, perhaps for centuries, and now they have to undo that to move forward. Just in general, as we advance, our views on life will change, as well.
 
Meteor said:
FancyMancy said:
It's a kick in the teeth, but you can - if you choose to - learn from it. There's no need to run away and hide. You said I'm your favourite, and you're leaving me?! Don't make me cry, Meteor! You better stay... or... erm... else... You don't want me to cry, do you?!
So if I leave, you'll cry; and if I don't leave, others will cry about it. In other words, nothing changes either way, and my presence here seems all the more irrelevant. However, you are indeed my favourite. Does that mean your tears would weigh more? Could it be that they actually consist of deuterium oxide? Intriguing. I'll consider sticking around just a bit longer, at least to reply to you.
I was thinking more dihydrogen monoxide. It's dangerous, though - it mutates DNA; denatures proteins; disrupts cell membranes; alters critical neurotransmitters chemically; is found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol... That shit is dangerous and poisonous. Meh to others whingeing if you stay. Be a rebel and revel in the fact that you have power over them. They are bothered about you; ask them if they want your autograph, and charge them for it! :twisted:

My point is that distancing myself would probably ease the tension, and afterwards I can just deal with my own problems in private. It's not like I would leave my spiritual practices behind me just because I'm not here; those are too important to me.
I don't know what the tension is you're referring to. From what I can tell, from what I have seen, things seem fine.

I'm able to see that your attitude towards this is much more sensible and healthy than mine in the first place.
'Twasn't always so. The Internet used to be my life, for a time. In one way or another, being a 'keyboard warrior' and taking things online way too seriously, when it's just meh actually.

Can you imagine a blind person who spent their whole life coping with their inability to see? They imagined what the world around them might look like, used this imagination as a helpful construct to traverse reality more easily, and took pride in how well they were able to function in life despite it. Then, suddenly, thanks to a surgery, they're able to see. No matter how accurate their imagination was, don't you think they would feel overwhelmed? And perhaps, a bit shy?
Maybe. Some would revel in it and want to go out and see everything. They'd saturate themselves in it, and I would think that their dreams - both night-time sleeping, and also aspirations - would be very different.

I'm able to talk about these things so openly, because it concerns things that I hate, that I want to rant about and get off my chest; as well as ideas I've wanted to bring into reality for who knows how many years, or lifetimes. However, if I actually go through with this... then my ideas, and my hatred, and the way I imagined things would be, none of that would have any meaning anymore in the face of the reality I would be directly confronted with.
Maybe that's why fantasies are fantasies, and not realities.

Most likely, despite having become such a talkative, somewhat detached person over the course of my life... suddenly, even I would be too shy to talk about it anymore. I mean, it's my body after all, right?
No-one can force you to say things about anything. You could just as easily, if not easier, stop talking about "sex change" things, and just talk about anything else. If anyone mentions it or replies to an existing post, you can ignore it or tell them you don't talk/don't want to talk about it. To be honest, I think you think this is a bigger problem than it is; to me, it doesn't seem like a problem at all. Just ignore it, don't talk about it, and go on with other things instead. You may still have a bit, some, or a lot of things to get off your chest, etc., but you could just quietly not talk about this anymore, or not for much longer, then that will be that, and you continue on with other things.

But even if it wasn't for that, I'm worried about the consequences reading about it may have for others. Even if I simply state the truth, knowledge can be harmful and dangerous if it's applied incorrectly. Even if I add like 5 disclaimers, people who consider this topic important for themselves might still try to learn from my experience, since there's not that much other information to pick from when it comes to this topic in the context of spirituality.
You cannot be responsible for others. They choose to do things themselves. People have to make their own mistakes - that is not your responsibility; it is theirs, so they can (hopefully) learn.

The error in that, is that my experiences are a direct result of my own specific circumstances; and the experiences other people might have, can be entirely different. In other words: I think the information provided by my experience is completely irrelevant to anyone, due to the extent of individual differences present in such situations; and yet, some people might convince themselves that it's relevant to them, and use that as a reason to justify making poorly thought-out decisions. I think that would be horrible.
Sorry in advance for downplaying this and undermining it and belittling it, etc... but - "If! If!" If wishes were fishes, the World would be an ocean - but that's not the case now, is it? If I had a billion pounds, or if I were this much different, or if I did this or if I did that... If I could turn back time... If, if, if. Why not When, When, When? Getting on with things, and getting better. People might see your posts and use that - regardless of what you mention - as validation; like I said, about confirmation bias, to continue with doing things about having a "sex change", no matter how much you say, warn or disclaim. People have been taught, over the centuries, repeatedly to be stubborn and intractable, through multiple lives. You can't save them; only they can choose to be saved.

When I asked if I could give you closure, I didn't mean that in a literal sense. Rather, what I meant is: do you really think it would be for the best if this information is publicly revealed, no matter how dangerous it might be? Do you value knowledge regardless of its merit? Is that... just to satisfy your curiosity, no matter who might get hurt as a result? Or is there more to it?
No, I'm just trying to ease things a bit. It's not surprising it doesn't come through well in text. People might be nosey and want to know what happened, but it's your personal life, so you shouldn't share the outcome; unless, perhaps, you want or need to.

I do mean you, actually. But since you were taking it as a compliment either way, I suppose I didn't have to point that out.
Lol. "Normal" is Boring. (Forgive me for this, but) wHaT iS "nOrMal"? Lol.

I had a recurring nightmare...
You might ignore this, because you said you don't want to talk about it. I still don't understand how someone in a dream forcing themselves onto you, to "try and force you to accept being Male"; someone else being a faker, poser, user online; or others in life all equal why you believe you should be Female. Everything in this jew World is hyped up to extremes, so just being who and what we actually are is not easy, as if we're being bounced around like a pinball in a pinball machine, or tossed around like a ragdoll. If you're a feminine Male, then so what? You're a feminine Male. It seems as if you have to wear the correct emo or chav or skater clothes because you seem a bit emo or chav or skater. By that, I mean thinking you have to have a "sex change" because you might be a bit feminine as a Male. Meh. Be a feminine Male. If the meditations help you to be balanced in the future, which surely they will, then that's what's going to happen. I doubt you will do what I am about to say, but maybe 1 day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly masculine; another day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly feminine; the other 5 days per week, just be. You won't like some of it or all of it, but the more you do it, over time, the more you'll get used to it... Then it won't seem as important to you; you won't be bothered, or perhaps care, anymore.

...while I sometimes wasn't assertive enough to stand up for myself in the past, nowadays, I won't tolerate anyone forcing anything I don't want on me.
After all of the - you could say - reverse-psychology being forced upon you had worked. "Say 'No' to teenage Children, and they'll rebel; so instead, play it cool; or do the opposite" sort of thing.

Each time he compliments me, I like to think that it cancels out one of the insults people have hurled at me. If I keep going like this, eventually it'll break even, and then maybe my self-esteem will become positive.
Being selfish, I refer to the copper, silver, gold... coins again. It seems like you have employed that already. Like when christians say "the more I think about it, the more i ReAlIsE that there must have been a creator" in that - going back and back and back, that everything must have been created, ME: "OK, but who created 'god'?" CHRISTIANS: "'he' was just there". so go back and back and back... but stop there? Likewise with you - your partner's compliments cancel-out one insult from before; why stop there? Nature made you Male, yes?

I know you said you were told that you shouldn't mention these things, but since you have - why do you talk about them? Do you want an opinion of, or a knowledgable SS user or staff member to validate and confirm that you're OK to have a "sex change" operation? It's your life, your Soul, your Body, your Mind... and no-one else will be responsible for your actions, but you still want to, and intend to, go through with it?

It's true that this behaviour reinforces my feelings, and that's why I called it escapism. That said, the difference in how I was treated as a boy, and how I am treated now, is blatant and immense. Don't you think that means my feelings are correct, perhaps?
Nature made you Male. It's as simple a that. Feelings don't change what's what. Some ignorant individuals think, feel, believe Satan is evil, but those thoughts, feelings, beliefs don't change the fact that Satan is not evil.

I don't think they're correct, personally. But does that mean they're wrong? I don't think they're wrong, either. Is it not simply an observation of cause and effect? I can feel frustrated, angry even, that it came to this. But I don't see my error. I don't understand what I did wrong, or what I'm doing wrong; but that doesn't stop people from insulting me. Is the reason that they're insulting me, not simply that I wasn't born female? After all, I've been insulted so much both before and after my decision to change. If that's the case, then doesn't it make sense that I feel such an overwhelming urge to destroy the evidence?
Running away. One can curl up, roll over and die, or they can defy convention and stay who they are, regardless of what other ignorant, uncaring, irrelevant people want. You want to feel better because others were mean to you. Some say "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth", attributed to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Literally, lies can't be truth, but people's perceptions, actions, beliefs, behaviours... would change, to conform to lies. Sorry, Meteor, but you're a conformist. A dream upset you by trying to force you to be a Boy, but real-life individuals complimented you about looking like a Girl. Sorry, but you need a long holiday from yourself for a while and clear your head.

Excuses don't change whether things are right or wrong, though; that's something I can only judge by the consequences of my actions. I suppose that's one of the merits of spiritual advancement: to know the consequences of one's actions beforehand.
Do you hope, that just in case the hospital will keep your Male bits in frozen storage, so that you can have them reattached later?! That won't happen. Instead, they'll either be sold to a jew to eat(?!) or put into vaccines, sold as dog food, sold as "processed" meat (soylent) or just incinerated. What a waste - and a disgusting one at that.

You're right that things don't change overnight, and I suppose I was really just bothered that I couldn't figure out how to take even a single step towards overcoming my fears.
Maybe because they're not "your" fears! Stop claiming them! Stop accepting them! Don't hold them tightly after your partner falls asleep at night; instead, dump them! "My fears", no wonder...

It feels like everything I tried the past two years, even when I thought I was really feeling up to it, just made things even worse instead, and that was very demoralising for me. I'm still feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, but I took note of your suggestions, thank you. I think I should be more careful not to bite off more than I can chew at once.
You've been so used to what has been placed upon you for so long, that anything else is difficult and is uncomfortable and different, foreign, alien... etc. Keep 'wearing' those things, and you'll get used to them. Adaptation. The Mind is stubborn, but the more things are done, the more the Mind (eventually) adapts/conforms. I am far from any form of respectable and trustworthy Astrologist, but from what I think I understand, slightly, the energies of the Planet Neptune are so fecking difficult to sublimate (modify, change). (I just checked Azazel's Astrology, and I remembered it correctly! ^^) I would suggest that you have a bitchtard of a Neptune placement somewhere, which needs to be overcome. Obviously and of course - don't share any of your Astrology details. (That is more or less the extent of my... "advice" or "help"... regarding Astrology in this context.)

Maybe I am wasting my time? Like was mentioned in a post earlier. If so, then oh, well. Maybe I am not. Maybe someone else, or other individuals, could take notice and realise things.

thank you
I hope that I help. If anything I say helps and is beneficial, for the better, then it is worth it.
 
Promethean said:
Homosexuals are weak and vile. They cannot sustain the existence of their blood. They are everything we loath.
Who is "we"? jews, christians, muslims? Lol. Bad troll. Go back to Troll Nursery.
 
Fanboy said:
You know prometheus played with dolls right?
Cheesuss! They're not "dolls"! They're action figures!

Idk man I think maybe there is something you're trying to tell us?
It was deliberate in choosing that username. It isn't very different than the "god" username.
 
Fanboy said:
Transgenders are the mix between Hermes and aphrodite. We are strong and fast fighters, with sharp minds and a thirst for knowledge.

And we have the sensuality and tender beauty of aphrodite. But a deep seated insecurity and fear of never being enough, that causes us to lash out. Meteor is an obvious example. But the legends explain this. It's our Satanic nature pushing us forward to be more beautiful, more Purr more worthy. Satan made us this way, it seems insane to normal people but our minds are simply different than yours.

It's a crime against nature, and as far as I'm concerned a crime against the Gods and their creations to force us to be what we aren't. Until humanity gets a clue, they will be deprived of our gifts to them, and we will be deprived of our bodies, souls, and lives. The reptillians make another big profit and remove a powerful piece from the board. Just wait a little bit longer tranny, have you tried football? Have you tried testosterone replacement therapy? Have you tried hypnosis? Have you tried electric shock therapy? Maybe you just weren't raised right, you should just be a proud faggot instead, for God's sake anything is better than being what you are!

Today they just demand to remove Trannies, tomorrow it's gays, then it's women, then it's dancers, singers, painters, then philosophers and then free warriors and heroes. Then they demand the heads of the non believers, then they demand your daughters for their bedchamber, and your sons for their army. Then they demand all your goods as taxes and they will ration out the bare necessities back to you. Then they control any form of learning to weaken the mind and soul. Just a little bit more and your jewish master will be so pleased little goyim.

Just take the first step goy, all we want is the nasty transgenders, they love the Gods too much. Sell them out you don't need them! . your eyes aswell son, we won't be needing those either. now go be a good lamb for your lord.

Everyone is acting like they get paid bully trans girls into repressing. They think they are doing some good service to humanity and saving lives, like some catholic priest that saves a teenage boy from sinning with a woman by raping him in the confession booth instead. Great job everyone, you really saved the passive homosexual from dressing up like a girl and ruining the entirety of all human civilization. You're such a hero.

"Just learn to accept yourself and heal from your trauma that us bigots gave to you for not being maaan enough, so that you can heal and become a maaaaan again. You were always just a maaaan, and you just need to heal from the trauma that made you believe you weren't a maaaaan. Just accept love into your heart and be a maaaaan you can't change what you are because I said so and I'm right because nature dictates maaaan"

https://youtu.be/eaeZ3RrzpLA
 
Promethean said:
Homosexuals are weak and vile. They cannot sustain the existence of their blood. They are everything we loath.

Well, you are on the right forum, if you wish to expand your awareness and grow up. You can start by reading our websites, then dedicating and starting a meditation programme. All the instructions for these steps are on the websites themselves, so there is no need to ask. Also, literally every question you may want to ask as a beginner has already been answer. So scout the websites better and also this forum. If it's not on the website, the search function on the forum will lead to it.

Finally, if you want to talk about weak and vile, we can talk about "men" who think burping and farting is funny (or even normal for someone healthy), or that hurting other people as a "joke" (i.e. nutshots/sack tap) is normal and funny. Those behaviours and mindsets are actually weak-minded and vile. And that's just 2 of many things that are considered manly. Another is judging manhood by how many women you slept with, or the fact you shagged someone considered attractive, or how wasted you can get with alcohol, or the extent to which you can do irresponsible/immature/dangerous things to prove the "size of your dick".
 
Fanboy said:
Not a single spiritual solution for inbalanced state was being mentioned. Only that young people should ingest estrogen.

I find this suspicious.

You are here, yet, you push the estrogen narrative. Why don't you spiritually heal, it would be beneficial regardless of your outlook.
 
Fanboy said:
FancyMancy said:
Meteor said:
So if I leave, you'll cry; and if I don't leave, others will cry about it. In other words, nothing changes either way, and my presence here seems all the more irrelevant. However, you are indeed my favourite. Does that mean your tears would weigh more? Could it be that they actually consist of deuterium oxide? Intriguing. I'll consider sticking around just a bit longer, at least to reply to you.
I was thinking more dihydrogen monoxide. It's dangerous, though - it mutates DNA; denatures proteins; disrupts cell membranes; alters critical neurotransmitters chemically; is found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol... That shit is dangerous and poisonous. Meh to others whingeing if you stay. Be a rebel and revel in the fact that you have power over them. They are bothered about you; ask them if they want your autograph, and charge them for it! :twisted:

My point is that distancing myself would probably ease the tension, and afterwards I can just deal with my own problems in private. It's not like I would leave my spiritual practices behind me just because I'm not here; those are too important to me.
I don't know what the tension is you're referring to. From what I can tell, from what I have seen, things seem fine.

I'm able to see that your attitude towards this is much more sensible and healthy than mine in the first place.
'Twasn't always so. The Internet used to be my life, for a time. In one way or another, being a 'keyboard warrior' and taking things online way too seriously, when it's just meh actually.

Can you imagine a blind person who spent their whole life coping with their inability to see? They imagined what the world around them might look like, used this imagination as a helpful construct to traverse reality more easily, and took pride in how well they were able to function in life despite it. Then, suddenly, thanks to a surgery, they're able to see. No matter how accurate their imagination was, don't you think they would feel overwhelmed? And perhaps, a bit shy?
Maybe. Some would revel in it and want to go out and see everything. They'd saturate themselves in it, and I would think that their dreams - both night-time sleeping, and also aspirations - would be very different.

I'm able to talk about these things so openly, because it concerns things that I hate, that I want to rant about and get off my chest; as well as ideas I've wanted to bring into reality for who knows how many years, or lifetimes. However, if I actually go through with this... then my ideas, and my hatred, and the way I imagined things would be, none of that would have any meaning anymore in the face of the reality I would be directly confronted with.
Maybe that's why fantasies are fantasies, and not realities.

Most likely, despite having become such a talkative, somewhat detached person over the course of my life... suddenly, even I would be too shy to talk about it anymore. I mean, it's my body after all, right?
No-one can force you to say things about anything. You could just as easily, if not easier, stop talking about "sex change" things, and just talk about anything else. If anyone mentions it or replies to an existing post, you can ignore it or tell them you don't talk/don't want to talk about it. To be honest, I think you think this is a bigger problem than it is; to me, it doesn't seem like a problem at all. Just ignore it, don't talk about it, and go on with other things instead. You may still have a bit, some, or a lot of things to get off your chest, etc., but you could just quietly not talk about this anymore, or not for much longer, then that will be that, and you continue on with other things.

But even if it wasn't for that, I'm worried about the consequences reading about it may have for others. Even if I simply state the truth, knowledge can be harmful and dangerous if it's applied incorrectly. Even if I add like 5 disclaimers, people who consider this topic important for themselves might still try to learn from my experience, since there's not that much other information to pick from when it comes to this topic in the context of spirituality.
You cannot be responsible for others. They choose to do things themselves. People have to make their own mistakes - that is not your responsibility; it is theirs, so they can (hopefully) learn.

The error in that, is that my experiences are a direct result of my own specific circumstances; and the experiences other people might have, can be entirely different. In other words: I think the information provided by my experience is completely irrelevant to anyone, due to the extent of individual differences present in such situations; and yet, some people might convince themselves that it's relevant to them, and use that as a reason to justify making poorly thought-out decisions. I think that would be horrible.
Sorry in advance for downplaying this and undermining it and belittling it, etc... but - "If! If!" If wishes were fishes, the World would be an ocean - but that's not the case now, is it? If I had a billion pounds, or if I were this much different, or if I did this or if I did that... If I could turn back time... If, if, if. Why not When, When, When? Getting on with things, and getting better. People might see your posts and use that - regardless of what you mention - as validation; like I said, about confirmation bias, to continue with doing things about having a "sex change", no matter how much you say, warn or disclaim. People have been taught, over the centuries, repeatedly to be stubborn and intractable, through multiple lives. You can't save them; only they can choose to be saved.

When I asked if I could give you closure, I didn't mean that in a literal sense. Rather, what I meant is: do you really think it would be for the best if this information is publicly revealed, no matter how dangerous it might be? Do you value knowledge regardless of its merit? Is that... just to satisfy your curiosity, no matter who might get hurt as a result? Or is there more to it?
No, I'm just trying to ease things a bit. It's not surprising it doesn't come through well in text. People might be nosey and want to know what happened, but it's your personal life, so you shouldn't share the outcome; unless, perhaps, you want or need to.

I do mean you, actually. But since you were taking it as a compliment either way, I suppose I didn't have to point that out.
Lol. "Normal" is Boring. (Forgive me for this, but) wHaT iS "nOrMal"? Lol.

I had a recurring nightmare...
You might ignore this, because you said you don't want to talk about it. I still don't understand how someone in a dream forcing themselves onto you, to "try and force you to accept being Male"; someone else being a faker, poser, user online; or others in life all equal why you believe you should be Female. Everything in this jew World is hyped up to extremes, so just being who and what we actually are is not easy, as if we're being bounced around like a pinball in a pinball machine, or tossed around like a ragdoll. If you're a feminine Male, then so what? You're a feminine Male. It seems as if you have to wear the correct emo or chav or skater clothes because you seem a bit emo or chav or skater. By that, I mean thinking you have to have a "sex change" because you might be a bit feminine as a Male. Meh. Be a feminine Male. If the meditations help you to be balanced in the future, which surely they will, then that's what's going to happen. I doubt you will do what I am about to say, but maybe 1 day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly masculine; another day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly feminine; the other 5 days per week, just be. You won't like some of it or all of it, but the more you do it, over time, the more you'll get used to it... Then it won't seem as important to you; you won't be bothered, or perhaps care, anymore.

...while I sometimes wasn't assertive enough to stand up for myself in the past, nowadays, I won't tolerate anyone forcing anything I don't want on me.
After all of the - you could say - reverse-psychology being forced upon you had worked. "Say 'No' to teenage Children, and they'll rebel; so instead, play it cool; or do the opposite" sort of thing.

Each time he compliments me, I like to think that it cancels out one of the insults people have hurled at me. If I keep going like this, eventually it'll break even, and then maybe my self-esteem will become positive.
Being selfish, I refer to the copper, silver, gold... coins again. It seems like you have employed that already. Like when christians say "the more I think about it, the more i ReAlIsE that there must have been a creator" in that - going back and back and back, that everything must have been created, ME: "OK, but who created 'god'?" CHRISTIANS: "'he' was just there". so go back and back and back... but stop there? Likewise with you - your partner's compliments cancel-out one insult from before; why stop there? Nature made you Male, yes?

I know you said you were told that you shouldn't mention these things, but since you have - why do you talk about them? Do you want an opinion of, or a knowledgable SS user or staff member to validate and confirm that you're OK to have a "sex change" operation? It's your life, your Soul, your Body, your Mind... and no-one else will be responsible for your actions, but you still want to, and intend to, go through with it?

It's true that this behaviour reinforces my feelings, and that's why I called it escapism. That said, the difference in how I was treated as a boy, and how I am treated now, is blatant and immense. Don't you think that means my feelings are correct, perhaps?
Nature made you Male. It's as simple a that. Feelings don't change what's what. Some ignorant individuals think, feel, believe Satan is evil, but those thoughts, feelings, beliefs don't change the fact that Satan is not evil.

I don't think they're correct, personally. But does that mean they're wrong? I don't think they're wrong, either. Is it not simply an observation of cause and effect? I can feel frustrated, angry even, that it came to this. But I don't see my error. I don't understand what I did wrong, or what I'm doing wrong; but that doesn't stop people from insulting me. Is the reason that they're insulting me, not simply that I wasn't born female? After all, I've been insulted so much both before and after my decision to change. If that's the case, then doesn't it make sense that I feel such an overwhelming urge to destroy the evidence?
Running away. One can curl up, roll over and die, or they can defy convention and stay who they are, regardless of what other ignorant, uncaring, irrelevant people want. You want to feel better because others were mean to you. Some say "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth", attributed to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Literally, lies can't be truth, but people's perceptions, actions, beliefs, behaviours... would change, to conform to lies. Sorry, Meteor, but you're a conformist. A dream upset you by trying to force you to be a Boy, but real-life individuals complimented you about looking like a Girl. Sorry, but you need a long holiday from yourself for a while and clear your head.

Excuses don't change whether things are right or wrong, though; that's something I can only judge by the consequences of my actions. I suppose that's one of the merits of spiritual advancement: to know the consequences of one's actions beforehand.
Do you hope, that just in case the hospital will keep your Male bits in frozen storage, so that you can have them reattached later?! That won't happen. Instead, they'll either be sold to a jew to eat(?!) or put into vaccines, sold as dog food, sold as "processed" meat (soylent) or just incinerated. What a waste - and a disgusting one at that.

You're right that things don't change overnight, and I suppose I was really just bothered that I couldn't figure out how to take even a single step towards overcoming my fears.
Maybe because they're not "your" fears! Stop claiming them! Stop accepting them! Don't hold them tightly after your partner falls asleep at night; instead, dump them! "My fears", no wonder...

It feels like everything I tried the past two years, even when I thought I was really feeling up to it, just made things even worse instead, and that was very demoralising for me. I'm still feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, but I took note of your suggestions, thank you. I think I should be more careful not to bite off more than I can chew at once.
You've been so used to what has been placed upon you for so long, that anything else is difficult and is uncomfortable and different, foreign, alien... etc. Keep 'wearing' those things, and you'll get used to them. Adaptation. The Mind is stubborn, but the more things are done, the more the Mind (eventually) adapts/conforms. I am far from any form of respectable and trustworthy Astrologist, but from what I think I understand, slightly, the energies of the Planet Neptune are so fecking difficult to sublimate (modify, change). (I just checked Azazel's Astrology, and I remembered it correctly! ^^) I would suggest that you have a bitchtard of a Neptune placement somewhere, which needs to be overcome. Obviously and of course - don't share any of your Astrology details. (That is more or less the extent of my... "advice" or "help"... regarding Astrology in this context.)

Maybe I am wasting my time? Like was mentioned in a post earlier. If so, then oh, well. Maybe I am not. Maybe someone else, or other individuals, could take notice and realise things.

thank you
I hope that I help. If anything I say helps and is beneficial, for the better, then it is worth it.

Nature makes us male, sure, we were born "Boys".
But we were not born men.

I was also born as a baby, and I also grow up and become who I am. Who the fuck is anyone else on earth to decide who we are? Not my lord, not my master, and not my God that's for damn sure.

We had to slowly and surely against all our own efforts and wishes for years, be transformed into men. Dragged into it by kronos, kicking and screaming and wishing to be fixed for our entire lives, and we are told each and every single time that "we are not allowed" xD or we are not developed enough to make the decision lmao. Any more developed and it will be to late for me you ignorant fuck.

We fight our battles and struggle our struggles all alone, because "I'm a young man" or I'm "almost a man" or "I'm a grown ass man" all this responsibility and pressure and I'm not even allowed to make any decisions for myself l. I'm just expected to obey at a higher capacity.

I used to walk around crying, "I don't like the way my pp feels, I hate it it feels bad" I would have a hissy fit if I felt my penis or balls at all, even as a little kid. I made it plenty fucking clear and did absolutely everything I could. No help, no kindness, no love. I remember it like it happened 15 seconds ago.

Us feminine boys had to grow up being beaten, screamed at, put into isolation, punished and humiliated by everyone constantly, not limited to but especially family or peers and even authorities. If we ever so much as walked incorrectly, talked incorrectly, smiled too much or laughed wrong, or accidentally stood with the wrong posture, or tried to pick out the wrong clothes at the store, looked at a girl's cartoon, or colored with a pink marker, Or even looked at toys made for girls, or tried to go near the girls at recess or talk with girls at all they say "eeew go away". Talk with boys at all they make fun of you for not being cool, it's miserable.

Growing up with the brain of a girl and a neutral body, then hit puberty and start turning ugly and more hairy on our face and legs and our voice cracks and is very clearly becoming embarrassing. Our feet get huge our jaw starts to get big, face looks more and more scary and boyish in the mirror, none of the clothes I like fit me, I just look like one of those cross dresser freaks on on TV. Then God forbid you are submissive sexually and your parents find out. God forbid you try to wear makeup, or buy the wrong clothes for yourself, or wear your hair the wrong way, too blonde or too long,, or spend too much time with boys, or spend too much time with girls for that matter.

Better set my boy straight, better put him back in line, better make him act right, better take away all his faggoty shit and make him like a man again. Disown him, punch his arms and legs until he can't move anymore, whip him with the belt buckle until he bleeds, emasculate him and throw him around like a ragdoll, don't feed him keep him skinny so he can't fight back, don't let him out of the house or he might go suck God knows how many clocks. Then send him to school hungry, traumatized and exhausted from yanked out of bed at 11 o'clock and smacked around because of something that your mother said happened, or something that the school said happened, or your siblings, or whatever bullshit reason. "He's in the second grade, he can't be acting like this, what will everyone think of my reputation if my child is misbehaving!! So you walk to school for an hour, sit at school for 8 hours like a good little obedient well behaved pet doing the same math problems over and over 3 times a day, math, science and homework. Learning about the same Holocaust and the same slavery year after year 4 times a day, history, social studies, english, homework. walk home for an hour. Your whole day is gone and your hungry as all hell, and then you walk in the door and your mother is sitting there watching television and she orders you to make the house spotless. The dog hasn't been out all day there's puddles of piss and piles of dogshit all over. You clean it all up, make some food if there is any. Your mother is screaming about some dust under the table or a smudge on the floor, or the gunk on the sink,or the piss at the bottom of the toilet behind the bowl. Or the precious precious dog is barking because of me, Or the couch has some doghair that won't come off. Or the laundry needs done, or my homework isn't done yet or I forgot to say yes ma'am no ma'am to the kikes at my school today or the look on my face isn't satisfactory, of my tone of voice isn't acceptable enough , or my attitude needs "fixed" lol. My parents got a call, and my mother has alot to say to my father about me. They scream and call eachother every known obscenity for 6 more hours until they get drunk on patron and rum and laugh like hyenas about random niggardry for hours and then just when I think I'm safe. My dad comes in and yells at me about something. He screams at me like he's interrogating a war criminal for 2 hours. Going on about me and my life, over things in question over and over and over until I slip up and say 1 wrong thing or I am silent for too long, or look at him the wrong way, or make 1 wrong expression and he beats the fuck out of me. And then comes back again just for sniffling too loud. And then tells me to come out and sit with him while he talks about his day and his feelings and threatens me further about what everyone wants and expects from me. Then he goes and spends all his money on drugs and alcohol and clothes because his faggot son that he disowned isn't worth wasting the money on food anyways. Then I go to school and I get bullied by noggers and beaners and kike teachers and not one single friend cares about me enough to stand up for me or help me. I can't focus on my work, I fall asleep in class and OY VEY you better hope that dad doesn't see the monthly progress report card. Uh oh he got the report card by mail. What the fuck is this? a c- in gym? Are you the dumbest mother fucking piece of shit failure that has ever walked this earth? Everything I do for you and you can't even get simple A's B's on a fucking report card? Smack my head, start crying ears ringing "I fucking dropped out since before I even got to this grade, I was running the streets on my own since 14!! a real man!! :you don't care about anything I day or do, you're shitting on me!" Smacks my head really scared now. Now here comes my monthly dinnertime beating that my whole family gets to see. My mother starts to take some tips ooh that's a good move :). My brother starts to agree with what my father says about me. I'm sitting on on floor balling my eyes out,, "get the fuck over here and finish your food!" Great. It gets worse and worse, next time it was in the parking lot at the furniture store, after this were waiting in line to get into the restaurant. Wipe that fucking look off your face bitch. Stop crying you little nigger fore I kill you, get your shit together. *grabs my neck and walks me into the store telling me to smile*
hello sir :)

Feminine boys are betrayed by everyone who is supposed to love and protect them, and anyone they might look up to or care about and were told at every turn in life that we are sick, weak, stupid, mentally ill faggots who don't deserve a thing besides a bullet in the head. Or a sword in the chest

Literally all I want is to be pretty and happy, but this is a clear and offensive crime to be doing because I was not given permission by Jesus christ the rabbi the man who died for us! Not a single friend, not a single moment of respite outside of hiding myself away hoping that someone isn't going to come hurt me.

Day and nights intense training for years my only goal is to be my true self, but my body is maturing faster than I'm able to get the power I need to transform. No woman could handle slowly and unavoidably losing every single aspect of her womanhood.

becoming huge and burly and hairy, deep man voiced freak. And then still wanting to feel small and protected and loved and being able to submit to a dominant lover. This brain that got too much estrogen I'n the womb doesn't work well on high testosterone, it's scary

How the fuck am I supposed to accept being a huge ass man but wanting to be loved like a cute little woman. Trans people literally try everything, we become bodybuilders, we become warriors, we become the greatest sports stars we can be, we have big families and do everything humanely possible to be good and worthy men.

But every second of every day your thoughts are going to be dominated by the same things.
"When am I going to transform"
"It's too late now I should have already killed myself"
"What's the best way to do it?"
"I should make them all pay before I go, cops, family, teachers lots of ways"
"What's the BEST way to do it?"
"They are all happy without me why don't I just kill myself instead?"
"Why don't I just transition if I'm gonna die anyways?"
"It's too late your life is over kill yourself"

Until you end up like Bruce jenner with 100 surgeries and every bias and lie that money can buy, you're on magazines and tv, you're told you're the greatest woman of all time, everyone says you're so courageous and beautiful. But they all really mean you're a disgusting cowardly revolting abomination. But that you're everything the jews want you to be. They want you you be vile enough to corrupt and destroy the image of anything good and true. Make the children scared to grow up and be like you hon!

We would be so pretty if the law would let us transition when we are young, but the world is made up exclusively of cowards and jews. When the Gods have their say in things people are allowed to become who they want to be, as soon as they are ready.

The human race is quite literally the enemy of anything that wants to different or unique or free or strong. The people of earth are sick and rotten on every level and they have the Gaul to say that trans people need to just "Accept themselves and be men!?" How about we just accept ourselves and be ourselves? Everyone can drown at this point.

The happiest year of my life, more true and more free than all the others, has started the day I ran down to the clinic and picked up my estrogen. I've never been more proud of myself or more happy to be alive or been more pleased with my body or my soul or life in general. I got my emotions, and my smile, and my future back. And it was not a minute too soon, People are going to see just how strong we really are. Trans girls have always had a place in the temple, and a place at the side of gods and kings, and queens.

Transgenders are the mix between Hermes and aphrodite. We are strong and fast fighters, with sharp minds and a thirst for knowledge.

And we have the sensuality and tender beauty of aphrodite. But a deep seated insecurity and fear of never being enough, that causes us to lash out. Meteor is an obvious example. But the legends explain this. It's our Satanic nature pushing us forward to be more beautiful, more Purr more worthy. Satan made us this way, it seems insane to normal people but our minds are simply different than yours.

It's a crime against nature, and as far as I'm concerned a crime against the Gods and their creations to force us to be what we aren't. Until humanity gets a clue, they will be deprived of our gifts to them, and we will be deprived of our bodies, souls, and lives. The reptillians make another big profit and remove a powerful piece from the board. Just wait a little bit longer tranny, have you tried football? Have you tried testosterone replacement therapy? Have you tried hypnosis? Have you tried electric shock therapy? Maybe you just weren't raised right, you should just be a proud faggot instead, for God's sake anything is better than being what you are!

Today they just demand to remove Trannies, tomorrow it's gays, then it's women, then it's dancers, singers, painters, then philosophers and then free warriors and heroes. Then they demand the heads of the non believers, then they demand your daughters for their bedchamber, and your sons for their army. Then they demand all your goods as taxes and they will ration out the bare necessities back to you. Then they control any form of learning to weaken the mind and soul. Just a little bit more and your jewish master will be so pleased little goyim.

Just take the first step goy, all we want is the nasty transgenders, they love the Gods too much. Sell them out you don't need them! . your eyes aswell son, we won't be needing those either. now go be a good lamb for your lord.

Everyone is acting like they get paid bully trans girls into repressing. They think they are doing some good service to humanity and saving lives, like some catholic priest that saves a teenage boy from sinning with a woman by raping him in the confession booth instead. Great job everyone, you really saved the passive homosexual from dressing up like a girl and ruining the entirety of all human civilization. You're such a hero.

"Just learn to accept yourself and heal from your trauma that us bigots gave to you for not being maaan enough, so that you can heal and become a maaaaan again. You were always just a maaaan, and you just need to heal from the trauma that made you believe you weren't a maaaaan. Just accept love into your heart and be a maaaaan you can't change what you are because I said so and I'm right because nature dictates maaaan"
This isn't r/trans. No one cares about how you justify your mental illness or what you think about yourself. And no one is going to come for anyone else.

Infact you better hope to God that after everyone is done with these Jews ,Women don't make groups coming specifically for your kind for trying to pretend to be them. Do you think a single man will utter a single word when women collectively start going against trans.

You also better hope to God that J K Rowling isn't alive by then.
anBn
 
Henu the Great said:
Fanboy said:
Not a single spiritual solution for inbalanced state was being mentioned. Only that young people should ingest estrogen.

I find this suspicious.

You are here, yet, you push the estrogen narrative. Why don't you spiritually heal, it would be beneficial regardless of your outlook.

This Fanboy account is an infiltrator and troll who has been banned on like more than 20 or 30 different accounts. The most recent before this was the account BigCheese6million.

It always promotes things like genital mutilation, synthetic hormone modification that destroys the endochrine system, and drug use. And has been banned many times for promoting these kinds of extremely damaging and dangerous things.

For some reason Cobra seems to use a system of banning the account but not the person, so the infiltrators and trolls always keep coming back. And even when we all know it is the same person, he does not ban them on the new account. This is something I disagree with. It is like each new account has to make a ban worthy offence before it is removed, even though everybody knows the infiltrators history of 30 different accounts banned. For some reason that is ignored. I think he believes that some people can change their mind, or wants to give another chance. But a rat is a rat, and with 30 accounts from the same person always getting banned for promoting harmful things, and fake account #31 is also promoting the exact same harmful things that it always has, I don't think there should be any more patience.

Anyway, this Fanboy account was created basically the next day after the BigCheese6million was banned. He writes with the exact same identical voice, identical style of speaking including habits of using very specific unusual phrases or words, and always with the promotion of mutilating the genitals, destroying the endochrine system, and drug use. Several of us knew from the first comments ever written on the Fanboy account that it is the exact same person. But he has spent some months now mostly trying to hide his negative intentions, trying to not promote harmful things as often as he used to, even sometimes writing a positive or good comment. Trying to blend in and infiltrate, but it doesn't work because we have already known from the beginning who it is and what damaging influence he tries to spread. I guess it is the idea of each specific account needs a specific reason to ban it, and all past history of the actual person is ignored. But I think if you have spent multiple years as a negative influence and a troll trying to promote dangerous things against our people, and have had around 30 different accounts banned for this behaviour, I do not agree with ignoring it or forgiving it just because the new account tries to do a more effective job infiltrating by not shaking the boat as drastically.


HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I know Brother. It's just that I see no one else saying anything else against this so I must say something. I remember how this username started out, and continued their play. It's like pendulum swinging how this person comes across. Sometimes ah so innocent and well meaning, other times subtly bullshitting and back to straight out of synagogue. To repeat the same process over and over.

As for the banning system. I don't think you can ban any IP forever without risking that someone else using the same IP at some other point of time loses access here, and we do know that Maxines wish is to keep this place open to all people. Unfortunately the cost is that lowlives can access and shit around.
 
Henu the Great said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I know Brother. It's just that I see no one else saying anything else against this so I must say something. I remember how this username started out, and continued their play. It's like pendulum swinging how this person comes across. Sometimes ah so innocent and well meaning, other times subtly bullshitting and back to straight out of synagogue. To repeat the same process over and over.

As for the banning system. I don't think you can ban any IP forever without risking that someone else using the same IP at some other point of time loses access here, and we do know that Maxines wish is to keep this place open to all people. Unfortunately the cost is that lowlives can access and shit around.

Yes, this is what HP Cobra mentioned before, not wanting to ban IP addresses as a lot of people rely on Tor and VPN's, so other members who happen to log in with the same will not be able to access the forums.
 
Jack said:
[...]

You also better hope to God that J K Rowling isn't alive by then.
anBn

Let me guess... she may turn him into a toad or send him to a Dementor?
 
Fanboy said:
Henu the Great said:
Fanboy said:
Not a single spiritual solution for inbalanced state was being mentioned. Only that young people should ingest estrogen.

I find this suspicious.

You are here, yet, you push the estrogen narrative. Why don't you spiritually heal, it would be beneficial regardless of your outlook.

Bjarkan vibrated into the bones, seemed to help me in my early years.

Inanna into the pituitary Pineal thyroid, tonsils, armpit lymphomas, thymus, adrenals, hip lymphnodes, testes. Affirming "healthy feminization in the most proper way for me"

Every meditation and yoga I do, I'm trying to get close to my truly most pure powerful self and "heal". Every trans person who comes here shares this motivation. Obviously

There's nothing to heal from, I already became my child self again. I would mention how to do spiritual solutions but I'm not valefor, I clearly don't know enough, nor am I strong enough.

Estradiol pills and spironolactone pills, work better. Trading your manhood and fertility for your LIFE and a chance at cultivating your womanhood is a pretty damn good deal. And it costs 30 bucks a month without insurance... bite me
That is not excactly balancing yourself.

In any case, it is fine if you want to play pretend and destroy your health, but do not encourage minors here to do the same.
 
Fanboy said:
Henu the Great said:
Fanboy said:
Bjarkan vibrated into the bones, seemed to help me in my early years.

Inanna into the pituitary Pineal thyroid, tonsils, armpit lymphomas, thymus, adrenals, hip lymphnodes, testes. Affirming "healthy feminization in the most proper way for me"

Every meditation and yoga I do, I'm trying to get close to my truly most pure powerful self and "heal". Every trans person who comes here shares this motivation. Obviously

There's nothing to heal from, I already became my child self again. I would mention how to do spiritual solutions but I'm not valefor, I clearly don't know enough, nor am I strong enough.

Estradiol pills and spironolactone pills, work better. Trading your manhood and fertility for your LIFE and a chance at cultivating your womanhood is a pretty damn good deal. And it costs 30 bucks a month without insurance... bite me
That is not excactly balancing yourself.

In any case, it is fine if you want to play pretend and destroy your health, but do not encourage minors here to do the same.

This is not the roman legion, nobody should have to reach the age of 20 before they are allowed to make choices with their body.

A boy reaches sexual maturity between the ages of 11-14. We can make our own choices at that point. What you say is irrelevant. The jews don't rule the human soul, and the dark age misery that we had to deal with is no more.

Witches are free, women are free,transgenders are free. We make our own decisions now. To hell with your cuckold "minors" talk.

The age of concent for marriage in America is 14 with parental approval. These minors you are talking about are fully fledged human beings with individual needs and feelings. Get a grip

14 year old teens are hardly mature at all. Even more so in this age.
They act like overgrown children entitled to anything, think they are great and can do anything with 0 responsibilities nor the life experience needed to make wise decisions.

Anyone who does not fit the description above is a total rarity.

Also many adults still exhibit this childish behavior.
 
Fanboy said:
Henu the Great said:
Fanboy said:
...
This is not the roman legion, nobody should have to reach the age of 20 before they are allowed to make choices with their body.

A boy reaches sexual maturity between the ages of 11-14. We can make our own choices at that point. What you say is irrelevant. The jews don't rule the human soul, and the dark age misery that we had to deal with is no more.

Witches are free, women are free,transgenders are free. We make our own decisions now. To hell with your cuckold "minors" talk.

The age of concent for marriage in America is 14 with parental approval. These minors you are talking about are fully fledged human beings with individual needs and feelings. Get a grip
You're right, this is JoS instead.

The brain and mind are not fully developed until twenty-something so your point is irrelevant. Just continue trying to justify your unhealthy habits, it does not matter because it is unacceptable no matter how you spin it.
 
Henu the Great said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I know Brother. It's just that I see no one else saying anything else against this so I must say something. I remember how this username started out, and continued their play. It's like pendulum swinging how this person comes across. Sometimes ah so innocent and well meaning, other times subtly bullshitting and back to straight out of synagogue. To repeat the same process over and over.

As for the banning system. I don't think you can ban any IP forever without risking that someone else using the same IP at some other point of time loses access here, and we do know that Maxines wish is to keep this place open to all people. Unfortunately the cost is that lowlives can access and shit around.

This is a classic pattern of jews, feigning repentance, fake being genuine, and apology after apology to only repeat the same shit again.
 
Fanboy said:
Nature makes us male, sure, we were born "Boys".
But we were not born men...
This sounds like a recruitment advert for military conscription, or thereabouts.

Any more developed and it will be to late for me you ignorant fuck.
I'm not an ignorant fuck. I'm only ignorant of what I don't know. Thanks.

I'm just expected to obey at a higher capacity.
What do you want? Fluffy pillows made out of clouds, plush toys, sweeties and rainbows?

Us feminine boys had to grow up being beaten, screamed at, put into isolation, punished and humiliated by everyone constantly, not limited to but especially family or peers and even authorities.
What Meteor said seems different.

If we ever so much as walked incorrectly, talked incorrectly, smiled too much or laughed wrong, or accidentally stood with the wrong posture, or tried to pick out the wrong clothes at the store, looked at a girl's cartoon, or colored with a pink marker, Or even looked at toys made for girls, or tried to go near the girls at recess or talk with girls at all they say "eeew go away". Talk with boys at all they make fun of you for not being cool, it's miserable.
Non-sissy Boys grew-up being bullied. Some of them are very hairy geeks.

Growing up with the brain of a girl
[citation needed]

Better set my boy straight, better put him back in line, better make him act right, better take away all his faggoty shit and make him like a man again....emasculate him and throw him around like a ragdoll...
So are they trying to make you act right, as a masculine Boy, or demasculate you to be a Girl? Make your mind up.

Feminine boys are betrayed by everyone who is supposed to love and protect them, and anyone they might look up to or care about and were told at every turn in life that we are sick, weak, stupid, mentally ill faggots who don't deserve a thing besides a bullet in the head. Or a sword in the chest
[citation needed]

Literally all I want is to be pretty and happy, but this is a clear and offensive crime to be doing because I was not given permission by Jesus christ the rabbi the man who died for us! Not a single friend, not a single moment of respite outside of hiding myself away hoping that someone isn't going to come hurt me.
Huh, yeah - hope is as helpful as heyzeus. (You'd think the jew wouldn't make it as obvious as calling its fake character, "jesus", a name sounding very similar to Zeus, a very ancient God...)


Day and nights intense training for years my only goal is to be my true self, but my body is maturing faster than I'm able to get the power I need to transform. No woman could handle slowly and unavoidably losing every single aspect of her womanhood.
So you're saying you're born Boys but not Men; so... you're born Boys and Women?

becoming huge and burly and hairy, deep man voiced freak.
If it weren't for these "freaks", Boys (and Girls!) wouldn't exist.

This brain that got too much estrogen I'n the womb doesn't work well on high testosterone, it's scary
[citation needed]

How the fuck am I supposed to accept being a huge ass man but wanting to be loved like a cute little woman.
Yeah, that shit's fucked-up. You might need to go get a reality check.

Trans people literally try everything, we become bodybuilders, we become warriors, we become the greatest sports stars we can be, we have big families and do everything humanely possible to be good and worthy men.
[citation needed]

But every second of every day your thoughts are going to be dominated by the same things.
"When am I going to transform"
"It's too late now I should have already killed myself"
"What's the best way to do it?"
"I should make them all pay before I go, cops, family, teachers lots of ways"
"What's the BEST way to do it?"
"They are all happy without me why don't I just kill myself instead?"
"Why don't I just transition if I'm gonna die anyways?"
"It's too late your life is over kill yourself"
The more you think and do things, the more it becomes a part of you; what you focus on consumes you; thoughts become things - for good or for bad. Copper, silver, gold... coins. I might repeat these things until I am blue in the face, but then I can go to Papa Smurf for advice...

Until you end up like Bruce jenner with 100 surgeries and every bias and lie that money can buy, you're on magazines and tv, you're told you're the greatest woman of all time, everyone says you're so courageous and beautiful.
Lol. Yeah, lol. You'd be like a jew on TV...

But they all really mean you're a disgusting cowardly revolting abomination. But that you're everything the jews want you to be. They want you you be vile enough to corrupt and destroy the image of anything good and true. Make the children scared to grow up and be like you hon!
Then stop wasting time and energy and effort, and get on with beneficial things...

We would be so pretty if the law would let us transition when we are young, but the world is made up exclusively of cowards and jews. When the Gods have their say in things people are allowed to become who they want to be, as soon as they are ready.
Yeah, that's why Children work in factories, on building sites, on oil rigs...

The human race is quite literally the enemy of anything that wants to different or unique or free or strong.
Which Human Race? There are three. If you are saying Humans = jew shit, then you are either misinformed or - based on what you type and what else has been said - meh, get lost, you bad troll and saddo with no life and too much time.

The people of earth are sick and rotten on every level and they have the Gaul to say that trans people need to just "Accept themselves and be men!?"
So trans people = Males who want to chop their bits off? Women not?

How about we just accept ourselves and be ourselves? Everyone can drown at this point.
Yeah, man, don't contradict yourself.

The happiest year of my life, more true and more free than all the others, has started the day I ran down to the clinic and picked up my estrogen.
No, those days conformed with your wishes and what you think is happy. You wanted it so much that it became you... for good or for bad - of course, you, yourself, will say it's good.

I've never been more proud of myself or more happy to be alive or been more pleased with my body or my soul or life in general. I got my emotions, and my smile, and my future back. And it was not a minute too soon, People are going to see just how strong we really are. Trans girls have always had a place in the temple, and a place at the side of gods and kings, and queens.
[citations needed]
They also were strong Vikings and in Hitler's Youth, as well, yeah? (I'm waiting for those to be "new discoveries"!)

Transgenders are the mix between Hermes and aphrodite. We are strong and fast fighters, with sharp minds and a thirst for knowledge.
All based on "your" oestrogen, which you had to get from synthetically-produced manufactories... instead of from Nature. Yeah, I believe you!

And we have the sensuality and tender beauty of aphrodite. But a deep seated insecurity and fear of never being enough, that causes us to lash out.
Oh, but nothing from Hermes, the big, old, ugly, smelly, hairy man? Dang, I nearly didn't notice you ignored him through your deliberate ignoring of him.

Meteor is an obvious example.
There's nothing obvious. Meteor is a username online which we see; the Physical, Spiritual, Mental, Psychological person behind the Meteor username is what we cannot see. It's nothing obvious at all.

But the legends explain this.
How do the legends (which?) explain Meteor is an obvious example? :?

It's our Satanic nature pushing us forward to be more beautiful, more Purr more worthy.
Is it? That you have to go to pharmaceutical manufactories to get "your" oestrogen, instead of Nature - Spirituality?

more Purr
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Satan made us this way, it seems insane to normal people but our minds are simply different than yours.
If Satan did, then fine; otherwise [citation needed].

It's a crime against nature, and as far as I'm concerned a crime against the Gods and their creations to force us to be what we aren't.
We can't force anyone to do or be anything. You are the one who said you went to get "your" oestrogen, which was not Natrual. You're trying to be something you are not. The Mind, Soul and Body all affect each other.

Until humanity gets a clue, they will be deprived of our gifts to them, and we will be deprived of our bodies, souls, and lives.
It's amazing you make these claims, without citations - including what "gifts" these "will" be.

The reptillians make another big profit and remove a powerful piece from the board.
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Just wait a little bit longer tranny, have you tried football? Have you tried testosterone replacement therapy? Have you tried hypnosis? Have you tried electric shock therapy? Maybe you just weren't raised right, you should just be a proud faggot instead, for God's sake anything is better than being what you are!
Faggots are meatballs made from minced off-cuts and offal, especially pork (traditionally pig's heart, liver, and fatty belly meat or bacon) together with herbs for flavouring and sometimes added bread crumbs. I seriously doubt you are a food. There's nothing wrong with being gay; "changing" your sex will not make you be straight.

Today they just demand to remove Trannies, tomorrow it's gays, then it's women, then it's dancers, singers, painters, then philosophers and then free warriors and heroes.
Yeh! That's going to happen!

Then they demand the heads of the non believers, then they demand your daughters for their bedchamber, and your sons for their army.
Did you forget that you are not in a mosque while typing your reply here...

Then they demand all your goods as taxes and they will ration out the bare necessities back to you.
...or a church...

Then they control any form of learning to weaken the mind and soul.
...or commjewnism?

Just a little bit more and your jewish master will be so pleased little goyim.
Yeah, you "change sex" by getting "your" oestrogen from a pharmaceutical manufactory, instead of having what Nature gave you.

Just take the first step goy, all we want is the nasty transgenders, they love the Gods too much. Sell them out you don't need them! . your eyes aswell son, we won't be needing those either. now go be a good lamb for your lord.
Oh, you're singing. OK. switches off*

Everyone is acting like they get paid bully trans girls into repressing.
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They think they are doing some good service to humanity and saving lives, like some catholic priest that saves a teenage boy from sinning with a woman by raping him in the confession booth instead.
Yeah, you're being raped virtually, over the Internet waves.

Great job everyone, you really saved the passive homosexual from dressing up like a girl and ruining the entirety of all human civilization. You're such a hero.
Yeh! Lol. You're doing a great service for trans-people here! Great work!

"Just learn to accept yourself and heal from your trauma that us bigots gave to you for not being maaan enough, so that you can heal and become a maaaaan again. You were always just a maaaan, and you just need to heal from the trauma that made you believe you weren't a maaaaan. Just accept love into your heart and be a maaaaan you can't change what you are because I said so and I'm right because nature dictates maaaan"
Yeah, that's precisely what has been said. You hear what you want to hear. Enjoy!

So you were born with having wayyy too much oestrogen in the womb, yet you still "need" to go to get some oestrogen from pharmaceutical manufactories? Like, dude... no wonder - you imbalanced yourself into imbecility!

*that's Engish for tuning-out


Fanboy said:
And it costs 30 bucks a month without insurance...
That's better than free Spirituality?

Henu the Great - please don't. You might catch something.


Fanboy said:
A boy reaches sexual maturity between the ages of 11-14. We can make our own choices at that point. What you say is irrelevant.
Right! So - you only want to "change sex" because it is a sexual interest to you. OK.
 
Meteor said:
I can't reply now. Please do me a favour? Ping me so I don't lose where I am? (You don't have to; I just feel like being lazy! :p)
 
Meteor said:
FancyMancy said:
Meteor said:
So if I leave, you'll cry; and if I don't leave, others will cry about it. In other words, nothing changes either way, and my presence here seems all the more irrelevant. However, you are indeed my favourite. Does that mean your tears would weigh more? Could it be that they actually consist of deuterium oxide? Intriguing. I'll consider sticking around just a bit longer, at least to reply to you.
I was thinking more dihydrogen monoxide. It's dangerous, though - it mutates DNA; denatures proteins; disrupts cell membranes; alters critical neurotransmitters chemically; is found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol... That shit is dangerous and poisonous. Meh to others whingeing if you stay. Be a rebel and revel in the fact that you have power over them. They are bothered about you; ask them if they want your autograph, and charge them for it! :twisted:

My point is that distancing myself would probably ease the tension, and afterwards I can just deal with my own problems in private. It's not like I would leave my spiritual practices behind me just because I'm not here; those are too important to me.
I don't know what the tension is you're referring to. From what I can tell, from what I have seen, things seem fine.

I'm able to see that your attitude towards this is much more sensible and healthy than mine in the first place.
'Twasn't always so. The Internet used to be my life, for a time. In one way or another, being a 'keyboard warrior' and taking things online way too seriously, when it's just meh actually.

Can you imagine a blind person who spent their whole life coping with their inability to see? They imagined what the world around them might look like, used this imagination as a helpful construct to traverse reality more easily, and took pride in how well they were able to function in life despite it. Then, suddenly, thanks to a surgery, they're able to see. No matter how accurate their imagination was, don't you think they would feel overwhelmed? And perhaps, a bit shy?
Maybe. Some would revel in it and want to go out and see everything. They'd saturate themselves in it, and I would think that their dreams - both night-time sleeping, and also aspirations - would be very different.

I'm able to talk about these things so openly, because it concerns things that I hate, that I want to rant about and get off my chest; as well as ideas I've wanted to bring into reality for who knows how many years, or lifetimes. However, if I actually go through with this... then my ideas, and my hatred, and the way I imagined things would be, none of that would have any meaning anymore in the face of the reality I would be directly confronted with.
Maybe that's why fantasies are fantasies, and not realities.

Most likely, despite having become such a talkative, somewhat detached person over the course of my life... suddenly, even I would be too shy to talk about it anymore. I mean, it's my body after all, right?
No-one can force you to say things about anything. You could just as easily, if not easier, stop talking about "sex change" things, and just talk about anything else. If anyone mentions it or replies to an existing post, you can ignore it or tell them you don't talk/don't want to talk about it. To be honest, I think you think this is a bigger problem than it is; to me, it doesn't seem like a problem at all. Just ignore it, don't talk about it, and go on with other things instead. You may still have a bit, some, or a lot of things to get off your chest, etc., but you could just quietly not talk about this anymore, or not for much longer, then that will be that, and you continue on with other things.

But even if it wasn't for that, I'm worried about the consequences reading about it may have for others. Even if I simply state the truth, knowledge can be harmful and dangerous if it's applied incorrectly. Even if I add like 5 disclaimers, people who consider this topic important for themselves might still try to learn from my experience, since there's not that much other information to pick from when it comes to this topic in the context of spirituality.
You cannot be responsible for others. They choose to do things themselves. People have to make their own mistakes - that is not your responsibility; it is theirs, so they can (hopefully) learn.

The error in that, is that my experiences are a direct result of my own specific circumstances; and the experiences other people might have, can be entirely different. In other words: I think the information provided by my experience is completely irrelevant to anyone, due to the extent of individual differences present in such situations; and yet, some people might convince themselves that it's relevant to them, and use that as a reason to justify making poorly thought-out decisions. I think that would be horrible.
Sorry in advance for downplaying this and undermining it and belittling it, etc... but - "If! If!" If wishes were fishes, the World would be an ocean - but that's not the case now, is it? If I had a billion pounds, or if I were this much different, or if I did this or if I did that... If I could turn back time... If, if, if. Why not When, When, When? Getting on with things, and getting better. People might see your posts and use that - regardless of what you mention - as validation; like I said, about confirmation bias, to continue with doing things about having a "sex change", no matter how much you say, warn or disclaim. People have been taught, over the centuries, repeatedly to be stubborn and intractable, through multiple lives. You can't save them; only they can choose to be saved.

When I asked if I could give you closure, I didn't mean that in a literal sense. Rather, what I meant is: do you really think it would be for the best if this information is publicly revealed, no matter how dangerous it might be? Do you value knowledge regardless of its merit? Is that... just to satisfy your curiosity, no matter who might get hurt as a result? Or is there more to it?
No, I'm just trying to ease things a bit. It's not surprising it doesn't come through well in text. People might be nosey and want to know what happened, but it's your personal life, so you shouldn't share the outcome; unless, perhaps, you want or need to.

I do mean you, actually. But since you were taking it as a compliment either way, I suppose I didn't have to point that out.
Lol. "Normal" is Boring. (Forgive me for this, but) wHaT iS "nOrMal"? Lol.

I had a recurring nightmare...
You might ignore this, because you said you don't want to talk about it. I still don't understand how someone in a dream forcing themselves onto you, to "try and force you to accept being Male"; someone else being a faker, poser, user online; or others in life all equal why you believe you should be Female. Everything in this jew World is hyped up to extremes, so just being who and what we actually are is not easy, as if we're being bounced around like a pinball in a pinball machine, or tossed around like a ragdoll. If you're a feminine Male, then so what? You're a feminine Male. It seems as if you have to wear the correct emo or chav or skater clothes because you seem a bit emo or chav or skater. By that, I mean thinking you have to have a "sex change" because you might be a bit feminine as a Male. Meh. Be a feminine Male. If the meditations help you to be balanced in the future, which surely they will, then that's what's going to happen. I doubt you will do what I am about to say, but maybe 1 day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly masculine; another day per week be deliberately-over-the-top-ly feminine; the other 5 days per week, just be. You won't like some of it or all of it, but the more you do it, over time, the more you'll get used to it... Then it won't seem as important to you; you won't be bothered, or perhaps care, anymore.

...while I sometimes wasn't assertive enough to stand up for myself in the past, nowadays, I won't tolerate anyone forcing anything I don't want on me.
After all of the - you could say - reverse-psychology being forced upon you had worked. "Say 'No' to teenage Children, and they'll rebel; so instead, play it cool; or do the opposite" sort of thing.

Each time he compliments me, I like to think that it cancels out one of the insults people have hurled at me. If I keep going like this, eventually it'll break even, and then maybe my self-esteem will become positive.
Being selfish, I refer to the copper, silver, gold... coins again. It seems like you have employed that already. Like when christians say "the more I think about it, the more i ReAlIsE that there must have been a creator" in that - going back and back and back, that everything must have been created, ME: "OK, but who created 'god'?" CHRISTIANS: "'he' was just there". so go back and back and back... but stop there? Likewise with you - your partner's compliments cancel-out one insult from before; why stop there? Nature made you Male, yes?

I know you said you were told that you shouldn't mention these things, but since you have - why do you talk about them? Do you want an opinion of, or a knowledgable SS user or staff member to validate and confirm that you're OK to have a "sex change" operation? It's your life, your Soul, your Body, your Mind... and no-one else will be responsible for your actions, but you still want to, and intend to, go through with it?

It's true that this behaviour reinforces my feelings, and that's why I called it escapism. That said, the difference in how I was treated as a boy, and how I am treated now, is blatant and immense. Don't you think that means my feelings are correct, perhaps?
Nature made you Male. It's as simple a that. Feelings don't change what's what. Some ignorant individuals think, feel, believe Satan is evil, but those thoughts, feelings, beliefs don't change the fact that Satan is not evil.

I don't think they're correct, personally. But does that mean they're wrong? I don't think they're wrong, either. Is it not simply an observation of cause and effect? I can feel frustrated, angry even, that it came to this. But I don't see my error. I don't understand what I did wrong, or what I'm doing wrong; but that doesn't stop people from insulting me. Is the reason that they're insulting me, not simply that I wasn't born female? After all, I've been insulted so much both before and after my decision to change. If that's the case, then doesn't it make sense that I feel such an overwhelming urge to destroy the evidence?
Running away. One can curl up, roll over and die, or they can defy convention and stay who they are, regardless of what other ignorant, uncaring, irrelevant people want. You want to feel better because others were mean to you. Some say "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth", attributed to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Literally, lies can't be truth, but people's perceptions, actions, beliefs, behaviours... would change, to conform to lies. Sorry, Meteor, but you're a conformist. A dream upset you by trying to force you to be a Boy, but real-life individuals complimented you about looking like a Girl. Sorry, but you need a long holiday from yourself for a while and clear your head.

Excuses don't change whether things are right or wrong, though; that's something I can only judge by the consequences of my actions. I suppose that's one of the merits of spiritual advancement: to know the consequences of one's actions beforehand.
Do you hope, that just in case the hospital will keep your Male bits in frozen storage, so that you can have them reattached later?! That won't happen. Instead, they'll either be sold to a jew to eat(?!) or put into vaccines, sold as dog food, sold as "processed" meat (soylent) or just incinerated. What a waste - and a disgusting one at that.

You're right that things don't change overnight, and I suppose I was really just bothered that I couldn't figure out how to take even a single step towards overcoming my fears.
Maybe because they're not "your" fears! Stop claiming them! Stop accepting them! Don't hold them tightly after your partner falls asleep at night; instead, dump them! "My fears", no wonder...

It feels like everything I tried the past two years, even when I thought I was really feeling up to it, just made things even worse instead, and that was very demoralising for me. I'm still feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, but I took note of your suggestions, thank you. I think I should be more careful not to bite off more than I can chew at once.
You've been so used to what has been placed upon you for so long, that anything else is difficult and is uncomfortable and different, foreign, alien... etc. Keep 'wearing' those things, and you'll get used to them. Adaptation. The Mind is stubborn, but the more things are done, the more the Mind (eventually) adapts/conforms. I am far from any form of respectable and trustworthy Astrologist, but from what I think I understand, slightly, the energies of the Planet Neptune are so fecking difficult to sublimate (modify, change). (I just checked Azazel's Astrology, and I remembered it correctly! ^^) I would suggest that you have a bitchtard of a Neptune placement somewhere, which needs to be overcome. Obviously and of course - don't share any of your Astrology details. (That is more or less the extent of my... "advice" or "help"... regarding Astrology in this context.)

Maybe I am wasting my time? Like was mentioned in a post earlier. If so, then oh, well. Maybe I am not. Maybe someone else, or other individuals, could take notice and realise things.

thank you
I hope that I help. If anything I say helps and is beneficial, for the better, then it is worth it.
It was difficult for me to even type that paragraph about my nightmares, and afterwards it was difficult to focus on meditation, and I was in a terrible mood for the rest of the day and most of the day after as well. However, being unable to take my mind off it gave me a chance to reflect on it for a change, and I think that's for the best, since it was clearly affecting me a lot more than I realised before.

I looked up if nightmares can cause trauma. A psychologist online called such a question ironic, explaining that nightmares tend to be a representation of existing trauma and emotional strain, usually metaphorical. However, they can exacerbate such issues and accelerate the development of negative symptoms from trauma, such as PTSD.

During puberty, I felt like I was losing myself. I wanted to cling to my innocence, hence why I had a childlike body in the nightmare; but no matter how I tried to resist it, I was powerless against the changes to my mind and body, hence why my resistance was futile. No matter how much I hated it, I was stripped of my innocence, hence why I was mocked for the way my body reacted. The woman in the nightmare was very big (both taller and more voluptuous than anyone I've ever seen in real life) and strong enough to completely overpower me; meanwhile I was weak, small and pathetic. I think this represented my insecurity in myself, not specifically as a boy or a girl, but rather, as a person. At the same time, I was struggling to come to terms with being into guys, hence why I was berated for not enjoying it (I felt like I should be into girls "like a normal boy", and had occasionally wondered if I would be able to enjoy it "like a normal boy" if it was forced on me). While everything combined made for a rather horrifying experience, I don't feel so overwhelmed anymore after taking it apart into the individual components.

But if all those components are considered individually, then it's apparent that it doesn't really have much to do with gender. Hypothetically, if I was born female, I could've still been ostracised by my friends for other reasons. I would've likely been scolded more for my tendency to talk with my fists, and I'd have felt constricted by that as my need for niceness would've been satisfied, but my need for strife neglected. During puberty, I would be curious about, yet simultaneously frightened by sex (just as I was as a boy), and might've had such nightmares about a man instead, since that's what would be expected of me as a girl. And if I had still met that creep on the internet, he would've tried to make me accept being a girl, and treated me as an object as a girl, rather than a boy. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think that my feelings might've ended up completely in reverse, and perhaps I would've even developed a preference for women (for a multitude of psychological reasons, as well as hormonal if I used testosterone injections), which I would then use to justify my feelings in the same heteronormative, conformist manner I do now.

Sometimes, I like to imagine a world with only men. Arguments would be solved by wrestling, while stating the logical errors in each other's beliefs to try to make each other falter; only those with sound reason, or great discipline and true dedication to their convictions, could maintain the will to fight, which they would back up with their physical prowess. Superstition would succumb to the muscles of the wise, and any and all endeavours of humanity would be performed with utmost efficiency. Becoming the strongest and healthiest one can be would be encouraged, but even if some men are naturally a bit weaker, they would still be taken under the wing of a stronger man and protected and guided towards developing themselves the best they can in spite of that.

Before I fell in love with my fiancé, I also occasionally liked to imagine a world with only women. In the absence of men, there would no longer be such an obsession with looking young and beautiful. Society would be led by wise elders with a strong intuition, in touch with nature and spirituality. Society might be less structured, but the strong sense of unity would encourage people to cooperate and work together for the good of the community, each doing what they're best suited for within the group. There would be heavy focus on individuality, with works of art being so diverse that there would be communities within communities. In times of prosperity, there would be many vibrant festivals to express gratitude for all the wonderful and beautiful things in life.

Because there is "male" and "female", there is disparity, and disparity has always been difficult for me to come to terms with. In a world in which everyone could change their body exactly to their liking, any disparity that remains is completely people's own responsibility, and therefore, it's fair; even so, I think that would be horrible, as it would undoubtedly bring out the worst in people, and it would halt any progress in solving societal issues that cause some people to want to change themselves to an unreasonable extent in the first place. But those societal issues aren't something I can do anything about on an individual level, and that's why changing myself just to adapt to my whims and circumstances seems to be more effective in improving my well-being than any other option: it gives me a sense of control over my life. I used to feel like it's unfair that I wasn't born female, and that I have to go to such lengths just to feel comfortable with my own body and my role in relation to others; but then I realised that to change in this manner, is my wish and my decision, and therefore, it's only fair that I do whatever it takes. That fairness has become something I treasure.

Even if anyone here told me that it's fine for me to do these things, I wouldn't believe them, since my Guardian told me to be conscious of the risks I'm taking. That's why I'll never believe anyone who doesn't have any practical, real life experience with these things; and all the information, no matter how positive or negative or frightening, I will absorb so that I can optimise the probability of making a decision I'll be glad about. Jack likes to pontificate sometimes about his proposed solutions to gender dysphoria, but I highly doubt he's helped even a single individual actually overcome it. I've helped several people help themselves to overcome it, either partially or completely: not with conversion therapy or antipsychotic medication, but rather, by treating them with patience and sympathy, and encouraging them to face their feelings without bias, and in some cases, they were able to make peace with themselves without going any further than they already did, and I'm happy for them. Many of such people aren't trying to be a nuisance to anyone, but rather the contrary, and the majority of the population has never even met anyone like that in real life since they're so rare. It's just getting a lot of attention now since it's the latest ideology war, despite concerning an even smaller minority than homosexuals.

While I'm unsure if it was a serious or a joke, I recently read a rant written by a feminist. She said that transgenderism is just the latest strategy of men to gain back power and "oppress women". First they will take their jobs and scholarships, that were supposed to be reserved for women. And then, with the "unmatchable beauty standard" that can only be achieved with all the most expensive surgeries and perfectly controlled hormone levels, transgenders would seduce women's husbands, stealing their love, and reducing the role of women to bearing children on the side just for them to be raised by those men instead.

Can you imagine less than 0.1% of the population stealing the jobs, scholarships, and husbands of half the population? I know I have a pretty high libido and all, but I don't think even I can handle a harem consisting of several hundred men, even if I wanted to...

It's just so ridiculous. What I'm doing isn't such a crime as some people make it out to be; they're just obsessed. And then there's people like Jrvan, who said I should be put into a straightjacket "for my own good". Does he realise how being locked up in a straightjacket would affect a person's mental and physical health, and that it wouldn't really solve anything? It seems like he's reflected on that mentality by now, and I know not everyone thinks like that, but it seems like a lot of people just don't want to find out that others are doing things they dislike or disapprove of, regardless of the consequences refraining from those things would have.

I dislike alcohol, and try to avoid being around drunk people these days; but even so, I know that my older brother developed amazing social skills specifically because alcohol helped him open up and learn to talk to people more deeply, a tool which eventually helped him succeed in getting his life together: getting a girlfriend, buying a house, having his first daughter. It also helped to ease the suffering when he was at his lowest. If not for his former alcoholism, I might not have a brother anymore. Since I realised that, I can no longer judge people for doing things I think are wrong, because for all I know, it might be just what they need to make it through the situation they're in. Isn't that what meditation is for, though? Well, he did meditate. But that alone wasn't enough to save him.

Your statement that I think this is a bigger problem than it really is, opened my eyes. My issues are real (even if I understand them so little that I come up with a completely different explanation every week; although perhaps that has less to do with not understanding it, and more with it being a complicated issue that's influenced by many different factors), and my decisions will impact my life in significant ways, and obviously, even if my decisions do help my mental health in one way or another, I should still strive to go even further beyond than that in terms of making peace with myself, through meditation and yoga. But the endless discussions about it are little more than a bunch of pointless, overblown internet drama.

Most likely, my reason for participating is mainly to let out some stress while waiting for my turn for the surgery, which has been delayed by more than a year due to the situation with covid (although in hindsight that's for the best, since in the past year I found some crucial information, without which I'd have gotten some important details wrong, leading to regret as I would most likely have been too tight to actually have sex in that scenario). However, this often just causes more stress, leading to a vicious cycle.

As for "bitchtard" placements in my astrology as you put it, I have several, and that includes Neptune as well. It represents all of the interconnected issues in an obnoxiously accurate manner, to the point that it almost feels like even my chart is trying to mock me. However, it's unclear what I'm supposed to do about this. If a person's chart describes their nature, then I could use this to justify my conflicted feelings as being a part of my nature, like: "Look, it's all written in the stars! This is simply how I am! I can't help these feelings!" On the other hand, if it represents karma, then, like, freeing myself would be good, right? But that's where another layer of confusion comes in: every single one of the traumatic experiences I had in this life that caused friction with my gender, was in one way or another caused by me already being at odds with my gender prior to that. So, if it was there in the first place, then was it nature? But these issues were clearly exacerbated throughout my life by the experiences I had. Then what about karma from past lives, is that also "nature"? And what about my biological nature (having an extra X chromosome), is that also due to karma? If I free myself from the placements in my chart, does that mean I'm resolving my karma, or am I erasing my true nature? I don't want to lose myself.

As for me being a conformist, that's absolutely correct. That much should be obvious from the time I put my hair in a ponytail when I was 7 years old and went to school feeling genuinely excited to show off my new hairstyle, only to undo it and hide for several hours when I saw the looks on people's faces, then pretend nothing happened. I thought being seen as normal was far more important to me than doing what I liked. But I suppose even a conformist like me can have a rebellious phase, although this phase has a more specific name, and I think it's... "Adolescence." I've been in it for an unusually long time, since there's so much for me to work through.

Sooner or later, I'll have to grow up and become a man or a woman, or maybe both. But more important than what I become, is that I want to be someone that feels like "me". To feel at home in my own being, is perhaps my deepest desire. Only I can make that happen.


You've convinced me to stick around, and also to stop talking about it. I don't fully understand why you'd want me to stay, though.
Transgenders aren't a significant part of society to warrant help. Infact no one in society cares for them (and they shouldn't) . Women's rights are much more important than Transgenders right to choose and I 100 % support the TERF feminists views on this.

Women are being Redpilled by the day on the Transgender issue and many of them are very angry inside. Most women would support removing all Transgenders from women's spaces.

Men don't really care about Transgenders because they don't really affect men's lives that much. However women on principle are affected because the status of womanhood has been stolen by Transgenders and Women have been reduced to Birthing Bodies.

Women are angry because of this because their position in society is threatened. Any Feminine man can start taking hormones and call themselves a woman and anyone who says anything is fired from their job.

A lot of Women are forced to go along with this because they have no other choice. But Women will support putting all these mentally ill sick people in mental institutions given they have their voice back.

Transgenders are celebrated by Jews because Jews like to celebrate defiling Human Nature and a defiance to the Natural Order. They only have their special privileges because of the Jews.

Once the Jews are gone ,who will protect these Transgenders who don't matter as a population ? We know the overwhelming majority of women absolutely hate Transgenders and Women can hold grudges against others for too long than men can.

After Jews are removed from society and legitimate Female voices start getting amplified demanding an end to all Transgender quotas and privileges and their recognition as Women. Do you think the men will object ?

And once that has been completed what will be next , I wonder ? It's going to be either Treatment or Ostracization . Listen ,I don't know how to treat Transgenders. My best guess is that Deep Hypnosis self can eliminate the false identity and ground the person in their original identity. We need Test and Randomized trials to check that out.

But honestly Transgender issues are at the last of ALL of society's issue. Most of Society sees them as the Enemy created by the jews. I don't think all Transgenders deserve to be labeled as the enemy. But I don't control society's perceptions.

Most people in society don't feel the same liberal attitude as I do ,around the western world. Once they are done with the Jews ,they will certainly look by process of deduction for Groups that have gotten unfair advantages because of the Jews and cone for them. Immigrants and then Transgenders.

Are the Transgenders going to be treated like they are in China or the Islamic World where they fear for their lives or just ostracised by society when they refuse to change. Who knows. Definitely ALL hormonal treatments for Sex Changes will be stopped for ALL ages.

What we do know is that people are waiting for the Jews to lose their power in society so that they can take power instead. And that Violent Retribution is on their minds.
 
Fanboy said:
I have recently made some friends like us, and the level of closeness Is unreal. We know eachothers feelings, fears, dreams, and we are animated by the same spirit. The word sister rolls off the tongue.

we have every right to come here and get genuine help. I'm sick of reading the vile messages from supposed "brothers".

We were made to be here by satan himself, all the legends point to this fact. We are not a scapegoat or a dead horse to beat. I can't sit here 24/7 to make sure newbies aren't getting turned away over some bigotry.

I actually meditate, unlike some retards who shit up this place all day with their Hebrew opinions. I've got important stuff to do and it's not fair for anyone to have to deal with this. Is the most powerful Goddess in the galaxy not the patron of the enarie? Are we not created by Satan himself according to the legends?

We are, and Meteor you've got to keep your head on your shoulders, you need to stop making these threads about transgenders. It's bad optics for us, keep it on the down low for a while please? When we get our serpents up we will get the recognition we need. Until then just cool it. I'm every bit as passionate as you about it. But the world is having actual problems and we need to focus. Let's stop causing trouble.
The irony is real. Hebrew opinions? :lol: You are the one who spread the message of hormonal ingestion for minors. Sure they could be ready to reproduce when you look at it at like that, but that is not the whole truth when we look at Humans and how we react to such things.

The way I see is that you are only allowed to post because it would less of a nuisance to remember you as kosher hormon pusher than to keep banning you over and over for what you are and what you try to do.
 
Fanboy said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Fanboy said:
This is not the roman legion, nobody should have to reach the age of 20 before they are allowed to make choices with their body.

A boy reaches sexual maturity between the ages of 11-14. We can make our own choices at that point. What you say is irrelevant. The jews don't rule the human soul, and the dark age misery that we had to deal with is no more.

Witches are free, women are free,transgenders are free. We make our own decisions now. To hell with your cuckold "minors" talk.

The age of concent for marriage in America is 14 with parental approval. These minors you are talking about are fully fledged human beings with individual needs and feelings. Get a grip

14 year old teens are hardly mature at all. Even more so in this age.
They act like overgrown children entitled to anything, think they are great and can do anything with 0 responsibilities nor the life experience needed to make wise decisions.

Anyone who does not fit the description above is a total rarity.

Also many adults still exhibit this childish behavior.

To say that a 14 year old has no responsibilities is a huge lie. We have all the same level of responsibility we just don't have any freedom. "Oh it's so hard being the cashier at walmart and sending the money to the landlord and going grocery shopping all by myself!

Adulthood is a million times more simple, we have already made our choices.

When I was 14 I wanted to surpass Satan and become the ruler of the galaxy. I would think "How would Satan feel when I get stronger than him, would he be mad?" Oh well better just find out when I get there.

The willpower and belief in oneself that a 14 year old possesses is probably the most holy thing In all human existence. Don't act like being a hopeless defeated old jerk is going to give you more wisdom.

Life is about taking risks and having fun. Wisdom is about using knowledge to win. What's the point in gaining all this life experience if all you experience in life is regret.

Anyways. I'm sure you are VERY old and very smart so I'll leave it up to make the kids cry...wait an Olympian second. I didn't even consider the adulthood responsibilities centered around all the ways you can make children cry.

A sacred duty indeed

This is what the typical entitled cocky brat would say. You're a teen a best.

Its not just rent that you have to pay, or the groceries. Its the electricity that you so fondly make use of, rambling all this to me, the healthcare that you *will* need if you get injured or whatever. The dentist, car insurance, and so on and so on.

You have to clean the entire house by yourself. The dishes aren't going to do themselves ya know.

"Life will be easier as an adult." well yes in some ways, but you don't have to face yourself losing the roof above your head, ending up on the street, or having worries about getting into debt and having to pay that off.

Also a 14 year old is not going to get any kind of good job and won't be able to make ends meet.
The issue with your "father" seems like some kind of overdramatic lie. Even so, if he even said or done 1/10th of all that I'd punch him in the face and make him regret every little thing.

Whatever, anything you've said was full of toxicity anyway. No one should take anything what you say serious.
 
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?
 
WinterWarrior666 said:
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?
Because it's an innatural act that goes against nature herself, you can remove the energies you mixed with the other person, but you can't remove the fact that you consciously did something that is extremely retarded and against nature.
 
WinterWarrior666 said:
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?

Because it changes you on the physical. If done enough you start looking yourself like some racemixed person...

Also that's wasting A LOT of time for just a single moment of fun or bliss. Also, having sex connects you deeply on a spiritual level. You CANNOT block that.

Honestly why would you even consider this?????
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
WinterWarrior666 said:
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?

Because it changes you on the physical. If done enough you start looking yourself like some racemixed person...

Also that's wasting A LOT of time for just a single moment of fun or bliss. Also, having sex connects you deeply on a spiritual level. You CANNOT block that.

Honestly why would you even consider this?????

Oh I've never considered it, I just found it strange so much emphasis was put on not doing that even outside of the reproductive factor when it seemed like something that can just be put in the "clean your soul after" bucket, similar to what is done when performing black magic.

The physical changing bit sounds hilariously bizzare though, does this mean people who have sex often will begin to take on physical features of the other? Or does that only result from a sexual exchange of radically different souls? (Aka not of the same race?)
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
WinterWarrior666 said:
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?

Because it changes you on the physical. If done enough you start looking yourself like some racemixed person...

Also that's wasting A LOT of time for just a single moment of fun or bliss. Also, having sex connects you deeply on a spiritual level. You CANNOT block that.

Honestly why would you even consider this?????

Because most people (who think like this about this subject and other "dirty" subjects) think they are on the level of Gods and can clean everything up flawlessly. Then reality catches up to them.
 
Fanboy said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Fanboy said:
To say that a 14 year old has no responsibilities is a huge lie. We have all the same level of responsibility we just don't have any freedom. "Oh it's so hard being the cashier at walmart and sending the money to the landlord and going grocery shopping all by myself!

Adulthood is a million times more simple, we have already made our choices.

When I was 14 I wanted to surpass Satan and become the ruler of the galaxy. I would think "How would Satan feel when I get stronger than him, would he be mad?" Oh well better just find out when I get there.

The willpower and belief in oneself that a 14 year old possesses is probably the most holy thing In all human existence. Don't act like being a hopeless defeated old jerk is going to give you more wisdom.

Life is about taking risks and having fun. Wisdom is about using knowledge to win. What's the point in gaining all this life experience if all you experience in life is regret.

Anyways. I'm sure you are VERY old and very smart so I'll leave it up to make the kids cry...wait an Olympian second. I didn't even consider the adulthood responsibilities centered around all the ways you can make children cry.

A sacred duty indeed

This is what the typical entitled cocky brat would say. You're a teen a best.

Its not just rent that you have to pay, or the groceries. Its the electricity that you so fondly make use of, rambling all this to me, the healthcare that you *will* need if you get injured or whatever. The dentist, car insurance, and so on and so on.

You have to clean the entire house by yourself. The dishes aren't going to do themselves ya know.

"Life will be easier as an adult." well yes in some ways, but you don't have to face yourself losing the roof above your head, ending up on the street, or having worries about getting into debt and having to pay that off.

Also a 14 year old is not going to get any kind of good job and won't be able to make ends meet.
The issue with your "father" seems like some kind of overdramatic lie. Even so, if he even said or done 1/10th of all that I'd punch him in the face and make him regret every little thing.

Whatever, anything you've said was full of toxicity anyway. No one should take anything what you say serious.
At least I'm not a rotten ass loser who has to pretend to be something I'm not.

it's just annoying when people say I need to heal from trauma. But the world did trauma on me because I was different. I just felt like ranting, to at least see if you guys would acknowledge you are wrong. But that's cool call me a liar lol. Alot of people do, but I haven't told a lie in many years. Satan expects us to take responsibility for our actions even if we are wrong. The truth will set you free :mrgreen:

I actually showed my dad the jos and told him everything about meditation and yoga and things really started to get better for us and he was almost done with the 40 days and we were doing great as a family..but you guys called him all sorts of names and called him a kike infiltrator, and he gave up and relapsed on drugs.. the priesthood was the main perpetrator from the messages he showed me.
I have no words to explain how I feel about it :)
Don't even use the word toxic with me. I respect Satan thats it.

Anyways, that exact line "you're a teenager at best either physically or mentally." Reminds me of cobra back then aswell imagine he said that to me almost 6 years ago, wow I am old. But holy shit he got so much cooler! I never thought I would go from his biggest jealous Hater, to his Biggest fan. I'm glad we still have him.

If I get blown up by a Russian nuke he's the first person I'm gonna go visit..Also I would do anything to hear Darth vader singing again. This is my dream

I never waste wishes but I would quite possibly do crimes to get this video back. I'll only watch it 1 time I swear.

Ok 2 times

People call you things because your morality is harmful. People that decide to leave and relapse after were not meant to be with Satan to begin with.

Even if as an SS you are a natural outcast, we are of a higher level. This is no reason to push "transgenderism" aka bodily mutilation and self harm as healthy and normal. Many people that call themselves outcasts are also victimized or traumatized in some way (they don't even have to be SS). That is also no excuse to behave like some kind off degenerate.

One can clean and empower all they want but if they don't actively work to increase their knowledge or maturity nothing will change.

You're here after so many years still spouting nonsense. Have you learned nothing?
To me you are on par with a jew.
 
Fanboy said:
Meteor said:
Fanboy said:
Satanism is nothing about the self at all.

We only achieve power and ascend higher so we can empower our people. an individual who raises others and protects and cultivates goodness is supremely meaningful.

The Gods don't just save themselves, and we don't save ourselves either, we are weak like bugs. We would be dead in literal days if not for our guardians

Satan uses absurd amounts of energy to bring us all here. And all we have to do Is be kind to eachother, and give guidance in a truthful and respectful way.. Astaroth herself is a beacon of liberty. She is lady liberty, she wears our flag on her wings proudly.

Herodotus and hippocrates both say that we were strong and noble people who helped others with healing and Divination through linden trees. I've never understood plants or flowers before but I'm learning.

Speaking of I found some weird book called the linden tree by some carpenter guy. There's so much to read that I think would give us the understanding we are looking for. I'm gonna start with herodotus, and I have airs waters and lands. It's really short. I'll get back to you if I learn anything important.

Don't let the pessimism get you, we are strong and the negative thoughts can become a cage.. There comes a time when grief is no longer a necessity but an indulgence, Indulge to far and you'll become a monster. Keep your chin up so that your sights may be aimed high

Much love, stay strong <3

https://www.amazon.com/Linden-Tree-S-D-M-Carpenter/dp/1950892573
I may have mentioned this before, but I really don't understand or like transgenderism as a concept. That's why it's hard for me to imagine a God or Goddess specifically standing up for people like that, let alone someone so highly esteemed. For reasons I'm not comfortable explaining right now (in short, it has to do with an impostor), I'm too scared of Her likeness to reach out to Her to confirm it myself; but when I did gather the courage to reach out to Her during Ostara, She didn't mention anything about this, but instead made me aware of and helped me to process my anger towards the people who made me feel like there was something wrong with me, throughout this life as well as past lives; but that didn't specifically have to do with me being male or female, just that I was discriminated against (in particular for my sexual orientation, and being neither masculine nor feminine enough to conform to society's expectations for most of my lives) and treated unfairly.

I know you mentioned stuff about hormone levels prenatally having a lasting effect on the mind, and I know there's more and more research these days to back that up, but I feel like that just leaves so many things unanswered. For example, why doesn't the brain just adapt to the way the body is over time? I've known some people who had really severe gender dysphoria during their entire childhood and teenage years, but then grew out of it as they reached adulthood; why does it work like that for some people but not for others? And what about people who transition much later after already having married and started a family? They often mention they had been repressing those feelings their whole life, but if they were able to cope with it for so long, then why did it suddenly become so unbearable that they had to destroy the life they built just for the sake of "being themselves"? What if there's actually a way to make it bearable again? Not to mention, how would I even know if that prenatal hormone stuff applied to me specifically? And even if hypothetically it does apply to me, then why did it happen to me out of all people? Why are there always so many unusual things about me? Why can't I just be normal? I try to act tough out of necessity, but I don't actually want people to hate me, especially not over something I can't even control. It's not fair! At least if it was just a fetish, then it would be my own fault and responsibility, and it would be fair even if people disliked me for it. But I'm starting to realise that it just isn't, no matter how much I wanted it to be.

I realised when I started to fetishise gay sex after I got used to having vaginal sex astrally, that fetishes always revolve around the things you can't normally have. I fetishised vaginal sex because I desperately wanted to be female, but couldn't have that. But now that I'm able to do it so often (astrally), it has just become normal, and I'm no longer able to fetishise it; it's just normal sex now (a bit plain even, but still nice). And instead, all the gay things I won't be able to do anymore (most of which I never even got to try due to being so uncomfortable with my body) are starting to seem oddly exciting. (I wonder if I should start using ridiculous terms like "gay vaginal sex" as a compromise, but at that point I'd just be a special snowflake, which is the opposite of what I really wanted.)

Realising that, made me understand that it was never really a sexual thing in the first place. I tried really hard to make it into a sexual thing, because sexuality involves strong feelings, and I felt like that would make it easier for me to explain it to people, like I had a clear motivation for it. But the truth is that I don't understand why my body felt so wrong back then (or why part of it still does), nor why I feel like the feminine appearance I have now suits me so much better. I don't understand why I felt so misunderstood and distressed when people insisted I was a boy when I was little, nor why I feel relieved and reassured now that people see me as a woman. I don't understand why surgery would help my body feel almost completely right, and yet, I'm almost completely certain that it will. To refrain from doing that just to live out some fetish would be utterly retarded. In hindsight, I must've sounded like an idiot this whole time...

In the end, I'm back at square one. But I think it's good to admit that I really don't understand this. I will do what I feel I need to; but I'll leave it to others to figure out why this was needed in the first place. Thinking about it so much just confuses me. Even in meditation, all I find is a simple state of being, without any explanation or justification; there's no way I could convey that to anyone but my fiancé.

I know I come off as rude at times. I just don't understand this at all, and don't know how to feel about it. I know many people are disgusted by the very concept of this, and I often feel that way too, because it's normal to feel that way, right? I mean, almost everyone feels that way, right? But then I wonder why I'm letting others dictate my feelings, when people are just trying to enjoy their lives the only way they know how. Sometimes I feel like I don't want to be such a shallow person, but other times I just give in to it.
One could be a big ass firefighter, rescuing people from burning buildings, or being a supercop stopping robberies, or a navy seal hunting terrorists, saving human trafficking victims. But you'll still have to go home, and the second the door closes behind you, you'll put on a pretty dress and wish to all the Gods you could go back in time and transition. Nobody really represses anything. Taking control of your life is what it means to be a true master, anyone calling this a fetish is a garbage person.

We are not the sleepers. You and I are braver than most and we made the right choice. And we will continue to make the right choices

There is an Akkadian legend about a creature called asushunamir created by Satan to go to the underworld and dance for erishkegal, in order to gain her favour and aquire the water of life. With the intent to ressurect inanna and bring her back to her father. In the story we succeeded and she blessed us with amazing gifts.

She has on record as Artemis, wished to find 60 nymphs to join her. And i will be one of them. If we achieve our immortality we have a chance. How we like to have sex, or if we pass exactly like a woman or not, probably doesn't matter to her. She hasn't said anything to me either, but she has made it clear that low self esteem is not acceptable.

It's not a fetish to enjoy a nice juicy steak. And it's not a fetish to swim in the ocean. The same way it's not a fetish to let your flesh and your waters take their most pleasurable form. That is as natural and true as a human gets. A Satanic being

Be proud of yourself, we are chosen by the Gods to be a special and unique kind of human, No pretending. The jealousy and hatred from others is powerless once we are secure in ourselves. We are being far too considerate of loser feelings. Why should we who are so true, show consideration for naysayers and enemies?

We don't need to put ourselves in a box, and slap on some kind of jew identity label just to be accepted.
We should stand on top and engrave our new chosen names. That way when they look up at us the confusion is gone. No compromises, and no negotiations.

Let's be more careful not to accidentally become tasteless in our messages about sexuality. There are still jewish here who don't like hearing people discuss their feelings. We must censor our language and our feelings because some people don't like to be reminded that the world doesn't actually revolve around them.

The shit they say to us is indeed unfair, and the majority do hate us. But we do have love in our lives.
We make new friends, make new family, the Gods reach out, we find a lover. It's more than enough to make up for the bad parts. I think it's time we just accept some of the imperfect things.
No one specifically intervened in your creation and you are not "special". You are just mentally ill and that's how the entirety of the world views transgenders and will continue to view them as ,NEVER accepting them for what they feel themselves to be.

You can sit around alone in a forest and pretend to be special. The entirety of the Human Race will never accept you, a deranged mentally ill pervert.
 
giselle08 said:
Hello Satanists,

Firstly, praise be to Satan and his demons!
I wanted to ask what Satan thinks of queer people. Does Satan accept them?

All the horrible, disgusting religions like Islam, Christianity and Judaism ban homosexuality. Does Satan allow it, though?

Hi. He does accept non-jewish queer people. I'm a trans man myself, but I won't go into much detail. I'm only responding because it's a bizarre way to start a thread.

You can not seek approval and acceptance from anyone except yourself. if you have self respect other SS should already acknowledge that. If they don't like you, oh well. Move on.

I tend to remain quiet for most part. I only speak when I need to. So I'm just answering your question.

Good luck to you.
 
WinterWarrior666 said:
FancyMancy said:
If you mean "strange, unusual", then Satan probably thinks that they're strange and unusual. If you mean homosexuals, then He doesn't mind. I'm bisexual. Others here are bisexual or gay or straight. As long as it is consensual, then it's OK. Homosexuality has existed for thousands and thousands of years, since long before the jew and its faeces appeared here, and homosexuality exists today in thousands and thousands of species of Animal. Some would say that mixing Races, whether bi, straight or gay is OK, but Spiritually and otherwise, it is not OK. "There's no pregnancy in interracial homosexual sex", no but the Souls still intermingle with different Energies of both Races; we are to have pure, strong, healthy Souls.

You know I never really got this, what stops someone from having interracial sex and then either extensive cleaning or programming an AOP to block out the energy mixing as a whole?
You surely are not the first person to think that, and maybe won't be the last. Energy takes the path of least resistance. That means it is easier to cause bad than it is to cause good. To clean out all of the things from/while being active in interracial sex, would be very counter-productive. Our current medical science is shit, deliberately, but go along with this analogy (no analogy tends to be perfect anyway!) - we can burn our hand and then use magic cream to heal our hand after. That might seem like a good idea, but it is rather nonsense. It is not only the Spiritual cleansing; it would also be the Psychological impact and the Physical/Biological (swapping of juices and proteins) which interact in one way or another. There are many 'level's of interaction, and while it might seem superficial and manageable, the deeper the roots go and the thicker and stronger and longer the roots are, the more mess it takes to uproot them and clean it all up - and that's before getting nice flowers to replace the bad weeds with.

I don't know if there has been any official mention of this before, but this is what I am convinced about - that Blacks, Asians and Whites (and the jew) all have, and live on/by/through/with... different vibrationary frequencies. These differences interacting with each other are not harmonious. Each have their own resonant frequencies - simply, Blacks are more Physical; Asians are more Mental/intellectual; Whites are more Spiritual/Moral/Ethical. It is not that either one is better than the others; we are different and we have our own strengths. Trying to mix these into one state or system or mould just doesn't work.
 
Meteor said:
I expect that you don't need to be told this, buuut... it is so much better to acknowledge problems and fix them, than it is to bury one's head in the sand. You don't have to reply, but I hope you found, or started to find, some things from that reflection which are beneficial, even if difficult, to you.

Regarding Jack's pontifications - I'd best not comment, but I will say this - I couldn't possibly comment! (I also lolled.)

latest ideology war
The little guy needs to feel big! The "minorities" are so disempowered! So powerless! They need (((governmental help)))! Try being a White Male in this World! From what I was told a few years ago, or from what I pieced together - the worst possible combination of person to be is a single White Male. That is with Males and Whites being close after. These other minorities and fads or phases or ideologies and what-the-fudgecake-ever are getting attention, which is starving others who need attention. Male suicide rates are high, considering Males are sUpPoSeD to be macho and all of that bullshit. With all of these other groups... energies are going into the wrong places. As we know, it is jewish occult onslaught against us/Humans.

transgenders would seduce women's husbands, stealing their love, and reducing the role of women to bearing children on the side just for them to be raised by those men instead.
Yeah, because fathers would be retarded enough, or just at all, to be swept off their feet by... macho?... chicks with dicks. (Imagine a manly-looking Woman with lumps and bumps in some of the right places and in some of the wrong places, picking up a Child's father and carrying him, and the father being OK with it...) /sarcasm (I know 'chicks with dicks' technically is quite the opposite, but yeah...)

Can you imagine less than 0.1% of the population stealing the jobs, scholarships, and husbands of half the population? I know I have a pretty high libido and all, but I don't think even I can handle a harem consisting of several hundred men, even if I wanted to...
Well, feminazis seem to be clutching at straws. Feminism was OK, back in the day so that Women could be "allowed" to vote (thanks to misogynistic jew shit causing that blockage in the first place), but these days it seems very retarded. I think I have a video of a feminazi being retarded against a Man who is on her side. If I can find it, I might upload it.

It's just so ridiculous. What I'm doing isn't such a crime as some people make it out to be; they're just obsessed. And then there's people like Jrvan, who said I should be put into a straightjacket "for my own good". Does he realise how being locked up in a straightjacket would affect a person's mental and physical health, and that it wouldn't really solve anything? It seems like he's reflected on that mentality by now, and I know not everyone thinks like that, but it seems like a lot of people just don't want to find out that others are doing things they dislike or disapprove of, regardless of the consequences refraining from those things would have.
There be some conservative Spiritual Satanists; there be some liberal Spiritual Satanists. Regardless of this and these, people can support and guide, but then let others do the right or wrong thing. Say for argument's sake that Jack and jrvan advance enough to both be Heroes (I presume they're both Males) - then another Jack and another jrvan will come along, lather, rinse, repeat.

for all I know, it might be just what they need to make it through the situation they're in. Isn't that what meditation is for, though? Well, he did meditate. But that alone wasn't enough to save him.
I think it strongly depends on the personality, and also their will-power. If Naturally they are not a low-type of person (relatively speaking), and the alcoholism reduces them down, then this might help them 'bounce back', especially if they have the willpower to do so. For others, it surely is karma and the lack of ability, or care, to improve.

But the endless discussions about it are little more than a bunch of pointless, overblown internet drama.
I might agree; however (and sorry for playing the opposite here, but also being genuine in what I say), it might just be that one single sentence in aaall of these repeated, ad nauseam, repetitions of overblown Internet drama posts helped someone. If it were not for all of that extraneous postage, that single sentence, or phrase, or paragraph might never have been mentioned - or not mentioned in quite that way. Especially for those who seriously seek more information genuinely and haven't merely settled on something which, along the lines of confirmation bias, makes them feel comfortable, empowered and proud. In short - it might have helped them to have the ability to make a proper, actual informed decision. Yeah, it might be nauseating, but I don't think it is bad entirely.

Most likely, my reason for participating is mainly to let out some stress while waiting for my turn for the surgery, which has been delayed by more than a year due to the situation with covid (although in hindsight that's for the best, since in the past year I found some crucial information, without which I'd have gotten some important details wrong, leading to regret as I would most likely have been too tight to actually have sex in that scenario). However, this often just causes more stress, leading to a vicious cycle.
Things need to be considered properly. Previously, and still partly-currently, "proper" is actually not actually proper, thanks to the jew and its shit. By the end of this decade (2020-2030), the intention of the Joy of Satan Ministries is to have at least 1 billion persons knowing about, interested in, and participating in JoS Ministries, movement, franchise, global takeover... whatever anyone wants to call it. This is when "proper" will be more proper, and eventually, be proper, properly! People just feel good about things which appear to validate their wishes - but unfortunately, war brings casualties... i.e. by 2030 and beyond, surely many more will have "sex change operations", and either will regret it or not, but the Soul, Physical, Psychological, Mental damage would have been done. Maybe they could reincarnate and heal; maybe not...

As for "bitchtard" placements in my astrology as you put it, I have several, and that includes Neptune as well. It represents all of the interconnected issues in an obnoxiously accurate manner, to the point that it almost feels like even my chart is trying to mock me. However, it's unclear what I'm supposed to do about this. If a person's chart describes their nature, then I could use this to justify my conflicted feelings as being a part of my nature, like: "Look, it's all written in the stars! This is simply how I am! I can't help these feelings!" On the other hand, if it represents karma, then, like, freeing myself would be good, right? But that's where another layer of confusion comes in: every single one of the traumatic experiences I had in this life that caused friction with my gender, was in one way or another caused by me already being at odds with my gender prior to that. So, if it was there in the first place, then was it nature? But these issues were clearly exacerbated throughout my life by the experiences I had. Then what about karma from past lives, is that also "nature"? And what about my biological nature (having an extra X chromosome), is that also due to karma? If I free myself from the placements in my chart, does that mean I'm resolving my karma, or am I erasing my true nature? I don't want to lose myself.

I doubt it was Nature. If the jew's overlords had not have attacked and placed the jew here to destroy Nature here, then we would not be as bound to/by our Natal charts as we have been. We'd be very much further along in being able to overcome the planetary placements kicking us in the wherevers; we'd be more powerful than them, and we'd also escape the wheel of karma. Since the jew has been placed here, and been here, we'd lost the ability to overcome the odds - but not anymore. Meditations help to bring-out the real, true us.

Maybe think of it as - the jew is here and its antics have robbed us of things, kidnapped our reality and placed us in foreign land. We grow-up in school/college/university and go to the libraries and museums and Internet and learn more about other things. We long for... something. We eventually realise and discover that we know about our home country and wish to return there. These meditations/power meditations are reconnecting us back with where we belong, where our feet once walked upon our own lands. The jew has mixed things up in many different ways and the energies are all over the place and mixed-up and contradictory, and - or but - our friendly workings are restructuring this matrix of energies so as to be harmonious with us again, and these lead us here and there beneficially so that we can once again be where we belong, where we were and are supposed to be. That is finding oneself, not losing oneself.

"Adolescence." I've been in it for an unusually long time, since there's so much for me to work through.
Like regressing to a Child-like state? No offence, but maybe you need to be mature. Sooner or later, a switch will be flicked, something with happen, things will trigger, maybe a knee-jerk reaction will happen... and then you might sort of 'wake up' and just relax and be calm about things. Meditations can bring these fixes properly.

You've convinced me to stick around, and also to stop talking about it. I don't fully understand why you'd want me to stay, though.
Reasons... :p Well, just because - why not? (Selfishly) I don't want to have to wonder which other username you might be and maybe be a bit chummy or pally with... I don't know who you might be, from scratch! :p

Again - I think it is extremely high-time that you worked on cleaning your Sacral/second Chakra, and its pair - your Throat/5th Chakra. Of course, all need to be done, but perhaps pay particular attention to these.

Meteor said:
FancyMancy said:
Meteor said:
I can't reply now. Please do me a favour? Ping me so I don't lose where I am? (You don't have to; I just feel like being lazy! :p)
Sure, I'll ping you. But if you reply to me, and I'm supposed to stop talking about this topic, then what do I do?! Should I ignore you?
tickles Meteor's belly

These things, and more, can be achieved with meditation. Spirituality can help, where (((medicine))) pretends to help and costs more. Spirituality is a much more productive option. To repeat a phrase I often repeat regarding "medicine" - pharmaceuticals don't make cures; they make money. Of course, there has to be a percentage which are helpful, and only helpful to a percentage of being helpful, so as to 'save face'; if everything didn't work, then it wouldn't be an industry. Meditations are boundless and infinitely more beneficial. As for the menopause - I don't expect Ladies/Heroines/Daemonesses/Goddesses who are, or who are in the process of becoming, immortal suffer through such a disgusting (possibly in more ways than one) event, so that they can no longer bear Children. Health services are low-level hardly-health "services"; it's more a name and a gimmick than an actual health service - and that includes (((medicine))) and the (((pharmaceutical industry))). Meditation, with Physical activity (not necessarily PE, but also that) and Mentality, balanced and healthily, trumps all.
 
Meteor said:


Reading this thread I have to extend great appreciation for your posts Meteor. You are honest, seeking to improve and understand yourself. Don't feel too bad about opening a can of worms. Things often go to bad places before they become rectified. This is a sign of change/growth and is actually a positive thing.

I'd like to offer my perspective and see how it may apply to you. You're welcome to disagree with me because, as Satanists, we are all on our own path in our development.

I have a cousin who is trans. He (formerly she) detached himself from everyone in our family because of muh grandpa's opinion and now lives in a closed bubble, only closely associating with a few people. He was tired of the endless questions. Conversations at the dinner table involved much buzz and open-minded questions centred on comprehending the enigma of transgenderism.

Although most of our family was accepting, this person has avoided them entirely for years now. The problem I feel is many people in this movement expect everyone to share the same views ("walk a mile in my shoes" and "political correctness") kind of mentality. This is close-minded and people should be able to respectfully share their views, draw conclusions and (if need be) agree to disagree.

Considering the dysphoria and depression people experience while transitioning I must say that I'm thrilled you didn't go through with it. It's also wonderful you found someone who loves you for "you", mentally, physically and emotionally. Hold on to that and remember, relationships always have ups and downs. The key is to seek to constantly listen to and support each other while always seeking improvement.

The problem I have with transgenderism is that it goes against physical nature, which I don't believe is "wrong" in any way, save from corrupted nature resulting from our chemical-laden world. Mental/physical disability in my view is an unnatural tragedy as it never occurred in the ancient world.

Satan created us, thus seeking to change/mutilate his creation to me seems disrespectful and likely hurtful to him. He truly loves us just as we are. We don't need circumcision or to dress a certain way to appease him. it's our soul (inner self) that needs focus. Our world operates only in facades, first impressions and appearance. People lose sight of their spirit and how to mend it.

For an example, I used to be into harming myself because of inferiority complexes. I detest and regret the choices I've made but I decided not to dwell on them and instead only seek to love and be proud of myself. When we love ourselves and emulate this our aura becomes bright and people gravitate toward us. People often seek "the attractive one" yet it's common as we get older that we find someone unattractive who loves themselves and is a wonderful person. Often our mind shifts and they BECOME attractive to us.

Everything in the world is based on thought and thought manifests spiritually. Media, TV and the people around us affect our spirit in negative ways. It's up to us to be strong, see the world for what it is, and overcome the negativity (i.e don't let it affect you).

You've overcome so much and in that you've become stronger, even if it may not feel that way. In life sometimes it feels like we're slowly climbing out of a hole, but with each progression we gain strength and wisdom without even realizing it.

I hope this offers you some insight and encouragement. I know it's hard to accept ourselves as we are (physically) because of brainwashing/programming and personal experiences. Always remember, "we are our worst critics" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It's never something that should be categorized like the way that it's been for millennia.
 
Fanboy said:
Meteor said:
Fanboy said:
Face reality. Do you really think people are going to be nice to you and accept you someday because you're a human, a creation of Satan? It's not like Satanism is some beacon of liberty; we each have our differences, and it's because of those differences that we all want to be the same, by forcing our beliefs on others. Even those who claim to celebrate uniqueness are hypocrites, only interested in people who are different in the ways they like. That's just human nature. Freedom and unity are fundamentally incompatible.

My first post in this thread? I explained why I believe that homosexual people shouldn't care what others think of them. If the people around them are the sort that would want to harm them for it, then they just have to hide it. That's all. Then Jack called me mentally ill and brought up transgenderism, and I replied to him, and others replied to me, and I replied to them.

Why should I care about optics? As plenty have stated before, Satanism is about saving yourself. All those who are allegedly so negatively affected by me just being honest can just go save themselves then. At the very least, you should know that people will only overlook your flaws in order to make themselves look good, or because they expect the same from you. I hate people who are nice only on the surface, as if I can't tell what they're thinking. You can bathe in empty positivity all you want, if that puts you at ease; I'll bathe in empty negativity instead, and let the pain teach me that all the suffering in the world is ultimately meaningless. I can't live without that feeling anymore; if I focus only on negative or positive things for too long, I'll lose it... I need both.

As if a talkative person like me has the discipline needed to refrain from replying to someone; that's the real problem here.

Satanism is nothing about the self at all.

We only achieve power and ascend higher so we can empower our people. an individual who raises others and protects and cultivates goodness is supremely meaningful.

The Gods don't just save themselves, and we don't save ourselves either, we are weak like bugs. We would be dead in literal days if not for our guardians

Satan uses absurd amounts of energy to bring us all here. And all we have to do Is be kind to eachother, and give guidance in a truthful and respectful way.. Astaroth herself is a beacon of liberty. She is lady liberty, she wears our flag on her wings proudly.

Herodotus and hippocrates both say that we were strong and noble people who helped others with healing and Divination through linden trees. I've never understood plants or flowers before but I'm learning.

Speaking of I found some weird book called the linden tree by some carpenter guy. There's so much to read that I think would give us the understanding we are looking for. I'm gonna start with herodotus, and I have airs waters and lands. It's really short. I'll get back to you if I learn anything important.

Don't let the pessimism get you, we are strong and the negative thoughts can become a cage.. There comes a time when grief is no longer a necessity but an indulgence, Indulge to far and you'll become a monster. Keep your chin up so that your sights may be aimed high

Much love, stay strong <3

https://www.amazon.com/Linden-Tree-S-D-M-Carpenter/dp/1950892573


I'd like to point out that you've got it all wrong. Satanism is about the self, first and foremost. We cannot affect change without being strong role-models. Satan doesn't lead us to the JoS, our own intuition does. We may have things in our past lives that connect us to him and bring us to him, but he very seldom will go out of his way to bring people here. It's the same as how the Gods offer minimal support in our development. They know that it's up to learn and grow. They sometimes offer support for those who are serious, but they won't be there every step of the way.

Unless you've seen him (or the Gods) in a dream or when partially awake you can be sure that it was yourself that brought you here. This can be the result of information (learning) or intuition (being attracted to certain things, like the occult).

Satan has bigger things he's focused on right now such as intergalactic wars. The God's don't seek us, we seek them. This is Satanism. In Xianity/judaism however, G-d seeks us relentlessly. He "envies" us and "morns" for us. This is the equivalent of a child crying and moaning for a new toy.

Just remember, this path is for the strong. We become stronger by guiding and empowering each other, sure, but it's the individual's responsibility to progress more than it is the collective's.
 
FancyMancy said:

You really are a keyboard warrior. Some of your replies gave me some good laughs!

The [citation needed] parts were genius and very on par with reality.

I have one question for you. How in the world do you quote so many different people? Every time I try it merges my text with the quoted text. I'll probably have refer back to the "New to the Forums" thread. The method I tried is copying my reply, going back to quote another person and pasting the first quote I replied to.

I did notice sometimes there is [ quote ] lowercase and [ QUOTE ] uppercase.

What I've been doing is putting [ quote ] at the beginning of each "quote" and [ /quote ] at the end.

This techie stuff is a little beyond me but I'm getting there. :lol:

I love typing and I'm quite fast at it. I also love keyboard shortcuts (they are fun). The parts I struggle with are the script/code elements in the forums. It's quite interesting though. ^_^
 
sublimestatanist said:
FancyMancy said:

You really are a keyboard warrior.
Am soowweeee. sniffles

Some of your replies gave me some good laughs!
Cool, lol.

The [citation needed] parts were genius and very on par with reality.
Well... you know...

I have one question for you. How in the world do you quote so many different people? Every time I try it merges my text with the quoted text. I'll probably have refer back to the "New to the Forums" thread. The method I tried is copying my reply, going back to quote another person and pasting the first quote I replied to.
I click on the quote button for the user I want to quote, but open it in a new tab (middle mouse button is quicker and easier than right-click and open in new tab) (maybe I multi-quote them) and reply. I then keep that tab open and go back to the previous tab and do the same with another user or the same user if I am replying to another of their posts. Then I cut and paste them all into one reply text box in one tab sequentially - usually in reply order. I also use a text document (e.g. Notepad in Windows), as well, if I don't do it the tabs way; it is easier to swap back and forth between my browser and the text document than it is to move my mouse cursor many miles to each new tab, possibly hitting the close X and getting annoyed!

I did notice sometimes there is [ quote ] lowercase and [ QUOTE ] uppercase.
That's just how I type it. The formatting for the forum is lowercase.

I love typing and I'm quite fast at it. I also love keyboard shortcuts (they are fun). The parts I struggle with are the script/code elements in the forums. It's quite interesting though. ^_^
I did some HTML in the past. That's easy but more difficult than forum/BBCode, but getting off-topic!
 
FancyMancy said:

You really are a keyboard warrior.
Am soowweeee. sniffles

Some of your replies gave me some good laughs!
Cool, lol.

The [citation needed] parts were genius and very on par with reality.
Well... you know...


I have one question for you. How in the world do you quote so many different people? Every time I try it merges my text with the quoted text. I'll probably have refer back to the "New to the Forums" thread. The method I tried is copying my reply, going back to quote another person and pasting the first quote I replied to.
I click on the quote button for the user I want to quote, but open it in a new tab (middle mouse button is quicker and easier than right-click and open in new tab) (maybe I multi-quote them) and reply. I then keep that tab open and go back to the previous tab and do the same with another user or the same user if I am replying to another of their posts. Then I cut and paste them all into one reply text box in one tab sequentially - usually in reply order. I also use a text document (e.g. Notepad in Windows), as well, if I don't do it the tabs way; it is easier to swap back and forth between my browser and the text document than it is to move my mouse cursor many miles to each new tab, possibly hitting the close X and getting annoyed!


I did notice sometimes there is [ quote ] lowercase and [ QUOTE ] uppercase.
That's just how I type it. The formatting for the forum is lowercase.


I love typing and I'm quite fast at it. I also love keyboard shortcuts (they are fun). The parts I struggle with are the script/code elements in the forums. It's quite interesting though. ^_^
I did some HTML in the past. That's easy but more difficult than forum/BBCode, but getting off-topic!




Yeah my bad, I get lost in tangents sometimes. These were awesome tips however. I figured out the problem; I've been leaving large gaps between the [ quote ] and the text. It seems to only work adjacent to the text, like with bold and itallics.

It was a case of me overthinking things once again. Thanks again Fancy. :)
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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