When you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The SS soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.Hi I read about after life and ghosts at joyofsatan.org so I have a question can people who dont believe in Satan after death go to Satan's heaven if they really want it or cant?
I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heavenWhen you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The SS soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.
Other people are subject to the influence of other entities on that plane. In the case of people who are in the vortex of the enemy, after their death waiting for them will be them, who will take them to carry out their plans. If one is not eligible, one will be reincarnated again or left to actually die.
The mind does not work that way.
the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to meThe mind does not work that way.
If you do not “believe in anything,” you are always a victim of the other entities in the other planes. And the enemy will come to you. Gods will make their decision according to Their will and power.
There isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilitiesThe Gods protect most souls from the enemy, not in the same way as SS but they don't abandon them either. You'd have to be really awful or very radically a God-hating abrahamic to end up in a situation where the enemy are your "caretakers" after death:
I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilities
no if you look at the forum I understand the concept of the satans heaven (place before reancarnation) and I read about things before making this treat so you are sure that I cant go to his place with not believing in him %100 and cant go with not believing in my heartThere isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.
I think you have misunderstood the entire thing. You are trying to project what Abrahamic religions do into Satanism.
The point of Satanism is empowering and transforming your soul into Godhood by doing daily power meditations. It's not about any "beliefs" or attaining a cozy, happy afterlife after you die. What's more important than "believing" anything is practicing power meditations and other things every day. It's about practice and knowledge.
You wrote the same post in the Turkish forum where you seem to have this false idea. As if it's all blind faith in a being and not practical spiritual empowerment. Someone who just "believes" in Satan and doesn't meditate daily will be on the same level as an outsider and not receive any important benefits.
you are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believingIt has nothing to do with belief or going to a "heaven". I mean you keep asking that question and you misunderstand it as if that purpose is the whole of Spiritual Satanism when it's not.
It's a temporary resting place for dedicated Satanists who do power meditation and work to become Gods. That's what it is. Not the end all be all of everything, just a resting place for those who happen to die.
The purpose here is to overcome death completely and not to die in the first place. Not just to die and go to a comfortable "heaven".
If you don't work on your soul and merely "believe" you are still a slave to the enemy. Yet you didn't mention anything about that, you are just talking about "beliefs".
I mean you're trying to draw parallels to the Abrahamic religions where there are none. Belief isn't enough, you have to do power meditations every day and look to empower yourself spiritually.
And about what you asked in the Turkish forum, the Dedication ritual will not work if you don't mean it fully. For example if you say "In the name of Satan and the Demons who are the true Gods..." if you are not sure that Satan and the Demons are real, then it will not work because your intention matters and it is contradicting what you are saying. Your words don't matter if your intention says something else. You can't hide your intentions from anyone here, especially the Gods.
there are two problems to me first why I cant go to satans place without believing and not fully believing second problem is in the JOS its said that if you end up in satans place you will have better reancarnation possibilities while I cant if thats true that I cant go to his place so while you are having better reancarnation possibilities and chance to become god in the end maybe I will stuck this state forever and even worse I can end up becoming the enemies slave so its the things that doesnt make any sense to me and I need answers about these questions with sources also here is my turkish post if you want to look at there as wellyou are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believing
This is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to me
its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fullyThis is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.
This is an effect of the enemy's programming in your mind. But you do not know this. Denying Gods is like denying yourself, it is the same thing. It is like self-destruction. And this will happen for you if you choose it, your beliefs don't matter. The reality is this.
If you believe that fire does not burn, this will still burn, and if you touch it, you will burn. The enemy is much more intelligent than you think, and your reasoning has a root in the enemy's influence. Your self-destruction.
In this way, you remain weak and will be subject to all kinds of entities, or attacks towards you, in all planes of existence, without being able to defend yourself, ignorance will lead you into bad situations and then to really die.
I already said that its a reincarnation place above so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for can you send me the source for you to saying thisThis isn't xianity or islam. You don't "get to go to heaven" just for believing.
Everyone goes to Duat in between incarnations, unless they have unfinished business somehow and are trapped here as ghosts, or unless you are an extreme hardcore xian/muzlim and are taken to the enemy.
Whether or not you believe in Satan, you are helped (except for the above instances). This is because Satan created us, and reincarnation is a very precise operation. Our Gods oversee this.
And it isn't "heaven". It's a place to stay until you incarnate again.
I answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.[...] so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for
why its not stated clearly in JOSI answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.
I have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some SS souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fully
It is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.why its not stated clearly in JOS
I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the DuatIt is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.
It never needed to be expressly stated clearly on the JoS because this isn't xianity or islam, those are the religions that go on and on about heaven after death.
I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fullyI have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some SS souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.
But Gods will take care of these souls nonetheless. Giving them the opportunity to understand and evolve, in later lives. This may be the case for you. But remaining in the state of ignorance and non-understanding is dangerous.
It would not be correct to tell you “rest assured the Gods will save you anyway,” because that is not the reality. Although the gods probably will, if you go in the opposite direction, there will not be much that can be done. If a SS decides to throw himself off a bridge no Deity, will intervene, surely he will receive signals, or messages not to do it, but his own will will be respected by the Gods, you will fall and die. Yours is a decision that will have by natural laws such consequences as those set forth above.
You have come this far, this may be your “bridge” and the Jos the warning message, the choice is yours, as are the responsibilities that will fall on you and no one else.
So to the question “if it is right”? the answer is yes, if your will is to reject Gods, why should they welcome you? that is your choice.
And the rest of us think that those who don't believe in Satan should deprogram from garbage programs and carefully study the JoS.I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat
I reported the translation problem from turkish joy site to the forum and I am looking the pdf's about after life now I will send if anything sticks in my mindAnd the rest of us think that those who don't believe in Satan should deprogram from garbage programs and carefully study the JoS.
Why would Satan take the non believers especially the ones who are working against Him into the heavens ? Why those people should be blessed and taken care of in good ways by the true and real God when they are working against spiritually and humanity with their false belief ?I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
99% of non-Satanists don't care about that because most don't even believe they have a soul or that Satan is real or that there's life after death, anyway. And even those who are aware Satan is real they think he's an evil being and they don't want to do anything with him. Very few non-Satanists have heard of the JoS site, so they think it's just an obscure online religion and don't take what it says seriously. You're the only one I've seen who isn't a Satanist and cares about that.I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat
Yes, but you seem to need more time to figure things out. Good luck.I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully
I am not working against Satan and why shouldnt I deserve being in his place and High Priestess Lydia said that non believers can go to the Duat tooWhy would Satan take the non believers especially the ones who are working against Him into the heavens ? Why those people should be blessed and taken care of in good ways by the true and real God when they are working against spiritually and humanity with their false belief ?
Satan helps only those who are dedicated to Him and those who deserve it , only those will stand to gain protection ,blessings and guidance towards achieving GodHead and as for the rest... it's up to them , would they be enough to wake up to the truth or not?
Would you care about me If I say I hate you and find you degusting and evil? Why would you? Why would He? Read JOS and Think.
You've literally said you do not believe in Satan so your question is ... 'would he although I don't believe in him take care of me?' obviously not .
maybe there are more people than you think that cares about it who knows99% of non-Satanists don't care about that because most don't even believe they have a soul or that Satan is real or that there's life after death, anyway. And even those who are aware Satan is real they think he's an evil being and they don't want to do anything with him. Very few non-Satanists have heard of the JoS site, so they think it's just an obscure online religion and don't take what it says seriously. You're the only one I've seen who isn't a Satanist and cares about that.
And what would be the point? They help those beings getting back to do what exactly? Come back on earth to not believe in them again and turn to the false systems? A life of 0 spiritual knowledge and advancement ? You're closer then you think on the right path , wish you best of luck !I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully
yes I would help and maybe in my next reincarnation I will believe in the satan who knowsIf I say that I don't believe in you 100% as being real would you help me after I die ?
And what would be the point? They help those beings getting back to do what exactly? Come back on earth to not believe in them again and turn to the false systems? A life of 0 spiritual knowledge and advancement ? You're closer then you think on the right path , wish you best of luck !
Look , for when you have time : https://ancient-forums.com/threads/how-my-journey-started-me-and-satan.296591/ this is my own personal journey on how I have meet Father Satan , He is more real then you think and definitely not as the false systems making him look like. He is the most enlightened , stronger , smartest and best in all things then any God , He is the God of the Gods and the Gods maker. Haven't you ever wondered why all of the false systems/religions are hating Him so much? It's because he's the bringer of freedom and knowledge the one who want us to be free and independent by ourselves , strong as Him!
there is a possibility for being prisoned astrally and rotten away too and its not okey to me.Reincarnation is a Natural process, not something Satan, etc., causes to happen. I don't doubt that They can influence it, though. It's also been said we reincarnate to try again, regardless of whether we believe, know, accept or reject if we have not achieved immortality yet.
I have already said that the mind does not work the way you think. Souls belong to Satan because He is the creator.It clearly says that Satanists are going Satans place Instantly and after that it says People who dont die as satanist should reincarnate before something bad happens so non believers cant go to the satans place if they are not believing but High Priestess Lylia said that non believers can go to the satans place too.
If the soul is powerful it can be reincarnate itself and there are souls that getting effected by the enemy and losing his power by the time passes and in the end become the slave of enemy as a soul and astrally prisoned or throw away to rot away satan says that its its existentially and ethically wrong to help them to reincarnate because they are scorned him but not every soul is same I am not scorning him and if I end up cant reincarnate on my own satan says he helps some worthy souls to reincarnate again can I be one of them? but here is the real question why satan is not saving all the rotting and about to be astrally prisoned souls take them in the Duat and give them a better reincarnation to help their 3rd eyes to open more easily I dont think its a right way to fight with enemy letting people rot away or getting astral prisoned instead of helping them.
All I can say to you is sorry but you dont even make any sense person above you named FancyMancy talked with some sense at least.I have already said that the mind does not work the way you think. Souls belong to Satan because He is the creator.
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I've read your comments and this one is where you lose your way.I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilities
It is normal for you to say it and think it. Understanding comes in stages. If you explain quantum physics to a child, it is difficult for him to understand what you explain, he needs time and understanding. And in his mind he will think it is invalid or doesn't make sense. But that does not invalidate reality. But it does invalidate his perception.All I can say to you is sorry but you dont even make any sense person above you named FancyMancy talked with some sense at least.
Like I said above again there is a possibility of deleting from existance and being astrally prisoned by enemy too just because I didnt believe in satan fully?
Another problem is that you can't question anything you don't understand or know. Gods are at a level that normal people do not understand, you have many knowledge deficiencies that do not allow you to understand things, and it is normal not to understand. Compared to the Gods we are the children trying to understand quantum physics. And as I have repeated many times, Gods will decide according to Their will and power.while satan can take me to his place and help me to better reincarnation for opening my third eye? why is satan dont care about the ones who is never going to be reincarnated again? I understand your point too every action has consequences I am questioning Satans sense of justice here.
I've got a better question: Why should you deserve ? - This is not to say that you deserve or not but the question has relevance, ask yourself that.I am not working against Satan and why shouldnt I deserve being in his place and High Priestess Lydia said that non believers can go to the Duat too
And what would make you one of those people?maybe there are more people than you think that cares about it who knows
I doubt you're honest with yourself or you simply don't understand what you're saying. How to help someone when you doubt whether they really exist or not,yes I would help and maybe in my next reincarnation I will believe in the satan who knows
Well.. knowing this why would you take the risk then?there is a possibility for being prisoned astrally and rotten away too and its not okey to me.
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan