Hi I read about after life and ghosts at templeofzeus.org so I have a question can people who dont believe in Satan after death go to Satan's heaven if they really want it or cant?
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Hi I read about after life and ghosts at templeofzeus.org so I have a question can people who dont believe in Satan after death go to Satan's heaven if they really want it or cant?
When you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The Zevism soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.
Other people are subject to the influence of other entities on that plane. In the case of people who are in the vortex of the enemy, after their death waiting for them will be them, who will take them to carry out their plans. If one is not eligible, one will be reincarnated again or left to actually die.
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Hi I read about after life and ghosts at templeofzeus.org so I have a question can people who dont believe in Satan after death go to Satan's heaven if they really want it or cant?
When you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The Zevism soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.
Other people are subject to the influence of other entities on that plane. In the case of people who are in the vortex of the enemy, after their death waiting for them will be them, who will take them to carry out their plans. If one is not eligible, one will be reincarnated again or left to actually die.
When you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The Zevism soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.
Other people are subject to the influence of other entities on that plane. In the case of people who are in the vortex of the enemy, after their death waiting for them will be them, who will take them to carry out their plans. If one is not eligible, one will be reincarnated again or left to actually die.
I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
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When you die, you respond to what you have believed in life. The Zevism soul will be protected by the Gods. Then it will be reincarnated again.
Other people are subject to the influence of other entities on that plane. In the case of people who are in the vortex of the enemy, after their death waiting for them will be them, who will take them to carry out their plans. If one is not eligible, one will be reincarnated again or left to actually die.
I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
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The mind does not work that way.
If you do not “believe in anything,” you are always a victim of the other entities in the other planes. And the enemy will come to you. Gods will make their decision according to Their will and power.
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The mind does not work that way.
If you do not “believe in anything,” you are always a victim of the other entities in the other planes. And the enemy will come to you. Gods will make their decision according to Their will and power.
The mind does not work that way.
If you do not “believe in anything,” you are always a victim of the other entities in the other planes. And the enemy will come to you. Gods will make their decision according to Their will and power.
the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to me
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The mind does not work that way.
If you do not “believe in anything,” you are always a victim of the other entities in the other planes. And the enemy will come to you. Gods will make their decision according to Their will and power.
the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to me
I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
There isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.
I think you have misunderstood the entire thing. You are trying to project what Abrahamic religions do into Satanism.
The point of Satanism is empowering and transforming your soul into Godhood by doing daily power meditations. It's not about any "beliefs" or attaining a cozy, happy afterlife after you die. What's more important than "believing" anything is practicing power meditations and other things every day. It's about practice and knowledge.
You wrote the same post in the Turkish forum where you seem to have this false idea. As if it's all blind faith in a being and not practical spiritual empowerment. Someone who just "believes" in Satan and doesn't meditate daily will be on the same level as an outsider and not receive any important benefits.
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I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven
There isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.
I think you have misunderstood the entire thing. You are trying to project what Abrahamic religions do into Satanism.
The point of Satanism is empowering and transforming your soul into Godhood by doing daily power meditations. It's not about any "beliefs" or attaining a cozy, happy afterlife after you die. What's more important than "believing" anything is practicing power meditations and other things every day. It's about practice and knowledge.
You wrote the same post in the Turkish forum where you seem to have this false idea. As if it's all blind faith in a being and not practical spiritual empowerment. Someone who just "believes" in Satan and doesn't meditate daily will be on the same level as an outsider and not receive any important benefits.
I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilities
It has nothing to do with belief or going to a "heaven". I mean you keep asking that question and you misunderstand it as if that purpose is the whole of Spiritual Satanism when it's not.
It's a temporary resting place for dedicated Satanists who do power meditation and work to become Gods. That's what it is. Not the end all be all of everything, just a resting place for those who happen to die.
The purpose here is to overcome death completely and not to die in the first place. Not just to die and go to a comfortable "heaven".
If you don't work on your soul and merely "believe" you are still a slave to the enemy. Yet you didn't mention anything about that, you are just talking about "beliefs".
I mean you're trying to draw parallels to the Abrahamic religions where there are none. Belief isn't enough, you have to do power meditations every day and look to empower yourself spiritually.
And about what you asked in the Turkish forum, the Dedication ritual will not work if you don't mean it fully. For example if you say "In the name of Satan and the Demons who are the true Gods..." if you are not sure that Satan and the Demons are real, then it will not work because your intention matters and it is contradicting what you are saying. Your words don't matter if your intention says something else. You can't hide your intentions from anyone here, especially the Gods.
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I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilities
It has nothing to do with belief or going to a "heaven". I mean you keep asking that question and you misunderstand it as if that purpose is the whole of Spiritual Satanism when it's not.
It's a temporary resting place for dedicated Satanists who do power meditation and work to become Gods. That's what it is. Not the end all be all of everything, just a resting place for those who happen to die.
The purpose here is to overcome death completely and not to die in the first place. Not just to die and go to a comfortable "heaven".
If you don't work on your soul and merely "believe" you are still a slave to the enemy. Yet you didn't mention anything about that, you are just talking about "beliefs".
I mean you're trying to draw parallels to the Abrahamic religions where there are none. Belief isn't enough, you have to do power meditations every day and look to empower yourself spiritually.
And about what you asked in the Turkish forum, the Dedication ritual will not work if you don't mean it fully. For example if you say "In the name of Satan and the Demons who are the true Gods..." if you are not sure that Satan and the Demons are real, then it will not work because your intention matters and it is contradicting what you are saying. Your words don't matter if your intention says something else. You can't hide your intentions from anyone here, especially the Gods.
There isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.
I think you have misunderstood the entire thing. You are trying to project what Abrahamic religions do into Satanism.
The point of Satanism is empowering and transforming your soul into Godhood by doing daily power meditations. It's not about any "beliefs" or attaining a cozy, happy afterlife after you die. What's more important than "believing" anything is practicing power meditations and other things every day. It's about practice and knowledge.
no if you look at the forum I understand the concept of the satans heaven (place before reancarnation) and I read about things before making this treat so you are sure that I cant go to his place with not believing in him %100 and cant go with not believing in my heart
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There isn't any such thing as a "heaven" here. It's just a temporary resting place that you stay before reincarnated.
I think you have misunderstood the entire thing. You are trying to project what Abrahamic religions do into Satanism.
The point of Satanism is empowering and transforming your soul into Godhood by doing daily power meditations. It's not about any "beliefs" or attaining a cozy, happy afterlife after you die. What's more important than "believing" anything is practicing power meditations and other things every day. It's about practice and knowledge.
no if you look at the forum I understand the concept of the satans heaven (place before reancarnation) and I read about things before making this treat so you are sure that I cant go to his place with not believing in him %100 and cant go with not believing in my heart
It has nothing to do with belief or going to a "heaven". I mean you keep asking that question and you misunderstand it as if that purpose is the whole of Spiritual Satanism when it's not.
It's a temporary resting place for dedicated Satanists who do power meditation and work to become Gods. That's what it is. Not the end all be all of everything, just a resting place for those who happen to die.
The purpose here is to overcome death completely and not to die in the first place. Not just to die and go to a comfortable "heaven".
you are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believing
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It has nothing to do with belief or going to a "heaven". I mean you keep asking that question and you misunderstand it as if that purpose is the whole of Spiritual Satanism when it's not.
It's a temporary resting place for dedicated Satanists who do power meditation and work to become Gods. That's what it is. Not the end all be all of everything, just a resting place for those who happen to die.
The purpose here is to overcome death completely and not to die in the first place. Not just to die and go to a comfortable "heaven".
you are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believing
you are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believing
there are two problems to me first why I cant go to satans place without believing and not fully believing second problem is in the JOS its said that if you end up in satans place you will have better reancarnation possibilities while I cant if thats true that I cant go to his place so while you are having better reancarnation possibilities and chance to become god in the end maybe I will stuck this state forever and even worse I can end up becoming the enemies slave so its the things that doesnt make any sense to me and I need answers about these questions with sources also here is my turkish post if you want to look at there as well
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/%C4%B0nanmayanlar-%C3%96ld%C3%BC%C4%9F%C3%BCnde-noluyor.297291/#post-1118029
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you are saying things like I didnt mentioned its a reancarnation place I am just saying it heaven looks like you didnt read my turkish posts that well and I am saying as you said is that really fair if I cant go to the Satans place for not fully believing
there are two problems to me first why I cant go to satans place without believing and not fully believing second problem is in the JOS its said that if you end up in satans place you will have better reancarnation possibilities while I cant if thats true that I cant go to his place so while you are having better reancarnation possibilities and chance to become god in the end maybe I will stuck this state forever and even worse I can end up becoming the enemies slave so its the things that doesnt make any sense to me and I need answers about these questions with sources also here is my turkish post if you want to look at there as well
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/%C4%B0nanmayanlar-%C3%96ld%C3%BC%C4%9F%C3%BCnde-noluyor.297291/#post-1118029
the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to me
This is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.
This is an effect of the enemy's programming in your mind. But you do not know this. Denying Gods is like denying yourself, it is the same thing. It is like self-destruction. And this will happen for you if you choose it, your beliefs don't matter. The reality is this.
If you believe that fire does not burn, this will still burn, and if you touch it, you will burn. The enemy is much more intelligent than you think, and your reasoning has a root in the enemy's influence. Your self-destruction.
In this way, you remain weak and will be subject to all kinds of entities, or attacks towards you, in all planes of existence, without being able to defend yourself, ignorance will lead you into bad situations and then to really die.
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the possibility of in my next life if I belive in YHWH and be his slave is not cool to me and if satan is not letting me in to his heaven for not believing him %100 while I dont believe in YHWH %100 doesnt make sense to me
This is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.
This is an effect of the enemy's programming in your mind. But you do not know this. Denying Gods is like denying yourself, it is the same thing. It is like self-destruction. And this will happen for you if you choose it, your beliefs don't matter. The reality is this.
If you believe that fire does not burn, this will still burn, and if you touch it, you will burn. The enemy is much more intelligent than you think, and your reasoning has a root in the enemy's influence. Your self-destruction.
In this way, you remain weak and will be subject to all kinds of entities, or attacks towards you, in all planes of existence, without being able to defend yourself, ignorance will lead you into bad situations and then to really die.
This is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.
This is an effect of the enemy's programming in your mind. But you do not know this. Denying Gods is like denying yourself, it is the same thing. It is like self-destruction. And this will happen for you if you choose it, your beliefs don't matter. The reality is this.
If you believe that fire does not burn, this will still burn, and if you touch it, you will burn. The enemy is much more intelligent than you think, and your reasoning has a root in the enemy's influence. Your self-destruction.
its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fully
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This is a problem. You continue to deny yourselves. The enemy will attack you, because you are bound to Satan.
This is an effect of the enemy's programming in your mind. But you do not know this. Denying Gods is like denying yourself, it is the same thing. It is like self-destruction. And this will happen for you if you choose it, your beliefs don't matter. The reality is this.
If you believe that fire does not burn, this will still burn, and if you touch it, you will burn. The enemy is much more intelligent than you think, and your reasoning has a root in the enemy's influence. Your self-destruction.
its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fully
This isn't xianity or islam. You don't "get to go to heaven" just for believing.
Everyone goes to Duat in between incarnations, unless they have unfinished business somehow and are trapped here as ghosts, or unless you are an extreme hardcore xian/muzlim and are taken to the enemy.
Whether or not you believe in Satan, you are helped (except for the above instances). This is because Satan created us, and reincarnation is a very precise operation. Our Gods oversee this.
And it isn't "heaven". It's a place to stay until you incarnate again.
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This isn't xianity or islam. You don't "get to go to heaven" just for believing.
Everyone goes to Duat in between incarnations, unless they have unfinished business somehow and are trapped here as ghosts, or unless you are an extreme hardcore xian/muzlim and are taken to the enemy.
Whether or not you believe in Satan, you are helped (except for the above instances). This is because Satan created us, and reincarnation is a very precise operation. Our Gods oversee this.
And it isn't "heaven". It's a place to stay until you incarnate again.
This isn't xianity or islam. You don't "get to go to heaven" just for believing.
Everyone goes to Duat in between incarnations, unless they have unfinished business somehow and are trapped here as ghosts, or unless you are an extreme hardcore xian/muzlim and are taken to the enemy.
Whether or not you believe in Satan, you are helped (except for the above instances). This is because Satan created us, and reincarnation is a very precise operation. Our Gods oversee this.
I already said that its a reincarnation place above so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for can you send me the source for you to saying this
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This isn't xianity or islam. You don't "get to go to heaven" just for believing.
Everyone goes to Duat in between incarnations, unless they have unfinished business somehow and are trapped here as ghosts, or unless you are an extreme hardcore xian/muzlim and are taken to the enemy.
Whether or not you believe in Satan, you are helped (except for the above instances). This is because Satan created us, and reincarnation is a very precise operation. Our Gods oversee this.
I already said that its a reincarnation place above so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for can you send me the source for you to saying this
[...] so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for
I answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.
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[...] so you are saying that non believers can also go to Duat thats the answer I am waiting for
I answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.
I answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.
why its not stated clearly in JOS
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I answered that in my post. Everyone, except the extreme hardcore believers in the enemy programs.
why its not stated clearly in JOS
its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fully
I have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some Zevism souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.
But Gods will take care of these souls nonetheless. Giving them the opportunity to understand and evolve, in later lives. This may be the case for you. But remaining in the state of ignorance and non-understanding is dangerous.
It would not be correct to tell you “rest assured the Gods will save you anyway,” because that is not the reality. Although the gods probably will, if you go in the opposite direction, there will not be much that can be done. If a Zevism decides to throw himself off a bridge no Deity, will intervene, surely he will receive signals, or messages not to do it, but his own will will be respected by the Gods, you will fall and die. Yours is a decision that will have by natural laws such consequences as those set forth above.
You have come this far, this may be your “bridge” and the Jos the warning message, the choice is yours, as are the responsibilities that will fall on you and no one else.
So to the question “if it is right”? the answer is yes, if your will is to reject Gods, why should they welcome you? that is your choice.
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its not about being affected by the enemy I dont even believe in them dont trust them or like them even a little bit the problem is with the system what I am asking you guys is that really fair if I cant go to satans place for not believing him or not fully believing while I regret enemy fully
I have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some Zevism souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.
But Gods will take care of these souls nonetheless. Giving them the opportunity to understand and evolve, in later lives. This may be the case for you. But remaining in the state of ignorance and non-understanding is dangerous.
It would not be correct to tell you “rest assured the Gods will save you anyway,” because that is not the reality. Although the gods probably will, if you go in the opposite direction, there will not be much that can be done. If a Zevism decides to throw himself off a bridge no Deity, will intervene, surely he will receive signals, or messages not to do it, but his own will will be respected by the Gods, you will fall and die. Yours is a decision that will have by natural laws such consequences as those set forth above.
You have come this far, this may be your “bridge” and the Jos the warning message, the choice is yours, as are the responsibilities that will fall on you and no one else.
So to the question “if it is right”? the answer is yes, if your will is to reject Gods, why should they welcome you? that is your choice.
why its not stated clearly in JOS
It is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.
It never needed to be expressly stated clearly on the JoS because this isn't xianity or islam, those are the religions that go on and on about heaven after death.
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why its not stated clearly in JOS
It is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.
It never needed to be expressly stated clearly on the JoS because this isn't xianity or islam, those are the religions that go on and on about heaven after death.
It is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.
It never needed to be expressly stated clearly on the JoS because this isn't xianity or islam, those are the religions that go on and on about heaven after death.
I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat
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It is mentioned in the JoS, and always was in all Ancient religions.
It never needed to be expressly stated clearly on the JoS because this isn't xianity or islam, those are the religions that go on and on about heaven after death.
I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat
I have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some Zevism souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.
But Gods will take care of these souls nonetheless. Giving them the opportunity to understand and evolve, in later lives. This may be the case for you. But remaining in the state of ignorance and non-understanding is dangerous.
It would not be correct to tell you “rest assured the Gods will save you anyway,” because that is not the reality. Although the gods probably will, if you go in the opposite direction, there will not be much that can be done. If a Zevism decides to throw himself off a bridge no Deity, will intervene, surely he will receive signals, or messages not to do it, but his own will will be respected by the Gods, you will fall and die. Yours is a decision that will have by natural laws such consequences as those set forth above.
I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully
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I have already answered that. The Gods, through Their will and Their power, will decide on the matter. And their decision will be the right one. Some Zevism souls, they are in a negative vortex in this plane, and they will not come to understand the truth in this life, for various reasons.
But Gods will take care of these souls nonetheless. Giving them the opportunity to understand and evolve, in later lives. This may be the case for you. But remaining in the state of ignorance and non-understanding is dangerous.
It would not be correct to tell you “rest assured the Gods will save you anyway,” because that is not the reality. Although the gods probably will, if you go in the opposite direction, there will not be much that can be done. If a Zevism decides to throw himself off a bridge no Deity, will intervene, surely he will receive signals, or messages not to do it, but his own will will be respected by the Gods, you will fall and die. Yours is a decision that will have by natural laws such consequences as those set forth above.
I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully