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Non Believers After Death?

kxcv1 min to read

Hi I read about after life and ghosts at templeofzeus.org so I have a question can people who dont believe in Satan after death go to Satan's heaven if they really want it or cant?

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I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat

And the rest of us think that those who don't believe in Satan should deprogram from garbage programs and carefully study the JoS.

#23

And the rest of us think that those who don't believe in Satan should deprogram from garbage programs and carefully study the JoS.

I reported the translation problem from turkish joy site to the forum and I am looking the pdf's about after life now I will send if anything sticks in my mind

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I'm saying I dont believe in YHVH 100% and I dont believe in the satan but its not %100 why satan wont take me in his heaven

Why would Satan take the non believers especially the ones who are working against Him into the heavens ? Why those people should be blessed and taken care of in good ways by the true and real God when they are working against spiritually and humanity with their false belief ?

Satan helps only those who are dedicated to Him and those who deserve it , only those will stand to gain protection ,blessings and guidance towards achieving GodHead and as for the rest... it's up to them , would they be enough to wake up to the truth or not?

Would you care about me If I say I hate you and find you degusting and evil? Why would you? Why would He? Read JOS and Think.

You've literally said you do not believe in Satan so your question is ... 'would he although I don't believe in him take care of me?' obviously not .

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I think you guys should edit the text After Life at JOS and add the including (Non Satan Belivers) for who can go to the Duat

99% of non-Satanists don't care about that because most don't even believe they have a soul or that Satan is real or that there's life after death, anyway. And even those who are aware Satan is real they think he's an evil being and they don't want to do anything with him. Very few non-Satanists have heard of the JoS site, so they think it's just an obscure online religion and don't take what it says seriously. You're the only one I've seen who isn't a Satanist and cares about that.

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the 'Heavens' in Satanic term is Duat - Hell , the place where one soul cannot be touched by nothing else , where it resides in complete peace and power guarded by the Gods until the time comes again for Him to be reincarnated again , most of the people who don't believe in True Gods don't end very well after death, do your own research , I hope you might be able to realize what we are and what we're doing, this is the path of enlightenment.

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I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully

Yes, but you seem to need more time to figure things out. Good luck.

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Why would Satan take the non believers especially the ones who are working against Him into the heavens ? Why those people should be blessed and taken care of in good ways by the true and real God when they are working against spiritually and humanity with their false belief ?

Satan helps only those who are dedicated to Him and those who deserve it , only those will stand to gain protection ,blessings and guidance towards achieving GodHead and as for the rest... it's up to them , would they be enough to wake up to the truth or not?

Would you care about me If I say I hate you and find you degusting and evil? Why would you? Why would He? Read JOS and Think.

I am not working against Satan and why shouldnt I deserve being in his place and High Priestess Lydia said that non believers can go to the Duat too

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99% of non-Satanists don't care about that because most don't even believe they have a soul or that Satan is real or that there's life after death, anyway. And even those who are aware Satan is real they think he's an evil being and they don't want to do anything with him. Very few non-Satanists have heard of the JoS site, so they think it's just an obscure online religion and don't take what it says seriously. You're the only one I've seen who isn't a Satanist and cares about that.

maybe there are more people than you think that cares about it who knows

#30

If I say that I don't believe in you 100% as being real would you help me after I die ?

I think they are more than humans so I expect them to welcome me even if I dont believed them fully

And what would be the point? They help those beings getting back to do what exactly? Come back on earth to not believe in them again and turn to the false systems? A life of 0 spiritual knowledge and advancement ? You're closer then you think on the right path , wish you best of luck !

Look , for when you have time : https://ancient-forums.com/threads/how-my-journey-started-me-and-satan.296591/ this is my own personal journey on how I have meet Father Satan , He is more real then you think and definitely not as the false systems making him look like. He is the most enlightened , stronger , smartest and best in all things then any God , He is the God of the Gods and the Gods maker. Haven't you ever wondered why all of the false systems/religions are hating Him so much? It's because he's the bringer of freedom and knowledge the one who want us to be free and independent by ourselves , strong as Him!

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If I say that I don't believe in you 100% as being real would you help me after I die ?

And what would be the point? They help those beings getting back to do what exactly? Come back on earth to not believe in them again and turn to the false systems? A life of 0 spiritual knowledge and advancement ? You're closer then you think on the right path , wish you best of luck !

Look , for when you have time : https://ancient-forums.com/threads/how-my-journey-started-me-and-satan.296591/ this is my own personal journey on how I have meet Father Satan , He is more real then you think and definitely not as the false systems making him look like. He is the most enlightened , stronger , smartest and best in all things then any God , He is the God of the Gods and the Gods maker. Haven't you ever wondered why all of the false systems/religions are hating Him so much? It's because he's the bringer of freedom and knowledge the one who want us to be free and independent by ourselves , strong as Him!

yes I would help and maybe in my next reincarnation I will believe in the satan who knows

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I want to ask some questions about pdf of High Priest Zevios Metathronos The Afterlife And Reincarnation Fully Explained

In page 5 it is said that

Satan and the Gods protect people from nefarious astral entities. Dedicated
Satanists at their moment of death, no different than Ancient Egyptians, are taken by
the Gods to a special astral place until they reincarnate. Those who haven't reached
that state, though, must re-incarnate before they dissipate so they will not wither and
die. Satan though keeps people who are before that state if they are willing and they
are sustained, if there are reasons for that. If not, they will be reincarnated.

It clearly says that Satanists are going Satans place Instantly and after that it says People who dont die as satanist should reincarnate before something bad happens so non believers cant go to the satans place if they are not believing but High Priestess Lylia said that non believers can go to the satans place too.

And if you read page 9

If the soul is powerful it can be reincarnate itself and there are souls that getting effected by the enemy and losing his power by the time passes and in the end become the slave of enemy as a soul and astrally prisoned or throw away to rot away satan says that its its existentially and ethically wrong to help them to reincarnate because they are scorned him but not every soul is same I am not scorning him and if I end up cant reincarnate on my own satan says he helps some worthy souls to reincarnate again can I be one of them? but here is the real question why satan is not saving all the rotting and about to be astrally prisoned souls take them in the Duat and give them a better reincarnation to help their 3rd eyes to open more easily I dont think its a right way to fight with enemy letting people rot away or getting astral prisoned instead of helping them.

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Most people don't know Satan and the Gods and Goddesses exist and don't believe that They exist. These people still reincarnate. I don't think the Gods and Goddesses are arseholes - "if you don't believe 1 trillion percent in Them, then you'll be taken by Their and our enemy and They will not care and you'll be left wondering 'WtF?!'.". Morals don't come from "god"; you punch me and I don't like that; or I see someone punch a decent person and see the decent person bleeding and in pain and I don't like it; I realise it's wrong to punch people usually. The Gods and Goddesses have morals, don't They? It's been said millions of times "The Gods know" and "The Gods understand". Whether we believe or know, and accept or reject, probably doesn't make a difference. From what I gather, reincarnation is a Natural process, not something Satan, etc., causes to happen. I don't doubt that They can influence it, though. It's also been said we reincarnate to try again, regardless of whether we believe, know, accept or reject if we have not achieved immortality yet.

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Reincarnation is a Natural process, not something Satan, etc., causes to happen. I don't doubt that They can influence it, though. It's also been said we reincarnate to try again, regardless of whether we believe, know, accept or reject if we have not achieved immortality yet.

there is a possibility for being prisoned astrally and rotten away too and its not okey to me.

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It clearly says that Satanists are going Satans place Instantly and after that it says People who dont die as satanist should reincarnate before something bad happens so non believers cant go to the satans place if they are not believing but High Priestess Lylia said that non believers can go to the satans place too.

I have already said that the mind does not work the way you think. Souls belong to Satan because He is the creator.

The “not believing” is a functioning of a part of your mind, which in this case does not count. Because this is a manipulation of the enemy that affects your mind in depth, that part you do not know. Gods know this and still save souls.

As I explained before, if your will is to reject Gods, Gods cannot help you, because it is your choice. If you are lucky within the 40 days you will be able to reincarnate, with all the risks I explained before. Reincarnation is a natural cycle.

If the soul is powerful it can be reincarnate itself and there are souls that getting effected by the enemy and losing his power by the time passes and in the end become the slave of enemy as a soul and astrally prisoned or throw away to rot away satan says that its its existentially and ethically wrong to help them to reincarnate because they are scorned him but not every soul is same I am not scorning him and if I end up cant reincarnate on my own satan says he helps some worthy souls to reincarnate again can I be one of them? but here is the real question why satan is not saving all the rotting and about to be astrally prisoned souls take them in the Duat and give them a better reincarnation to help their 3rd eyes to open more easily I dont think its a right way to fight with enemy letting people rot away or getting astral prisoned instead of helping them.

The answer is always the same. Because it's your will, Gods don't save those who don't want to be saved, and those who have slandered Gods, they won't be received, it doesn't make sense. It's not a question of an open third eye, also because with each reincarnation you get an extra push to understand, Gods already do that, but the work has to be done yourself, Gods cannot do it for you.

This is an andropod mentality, and the Gods don't like it. You are no longer a “child,” you have to understand, strive and deserve things as well, there is no such thing as a “ready-made meal.” You are trying to get without doing anything. It doesn't work that way, and I'm not just talking about going to “heaven”[Which symbolizes the 7thchakra, not a place], but in every sphere of existence.

By natural law every action to a consequence, and standing still is an action that has consequences. The choice is yours.

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I have already said that the mind does not work the way you think. Souls belong to Satan because He is the creator.
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All I can say to you is sorry but you dont even make any sense person above you named FancyMancy talked with some sense at least.
Like I said above again there is a possibility of deleting from existance and being astrally prisoned by enemy too just because I didnt believe in satan fully?
while satan can take me to his place and help me to better reincarnation for opening my third eye? why is satan dont care about the ones who is never going to be reincarnated again? I understand your point too every action has consequences I am questioning Satans sense of justice here.

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kxcvsaid:post: 1118048

I am saying is that really fair if I end up believing in the enemy and be his slave in my next life for not accepting the satan %100 and cant go to the his heaven for better reincarnation possibilities

I've read your comments and this one is where you lose your way.
Your entire argument is based on your flawed beliefs.
Life isn't fair and neither is death.
You talk of fairness, justice and protection while offering absolutely nothing on your part.
Not only will you not receive protection after death your reincarnateable soul will be lost to and used by nefarious entities until your soul completely dissipates.
And that's not a metaphorical "you", I mean you personally.
You know of Father Satan Lucifer and choose to offend by straddling a line of loyalty with bogus disgusting abrahamics.
Validating the abrahamics ruined Crowley and caused Twymans suicide.
You've chosen nothing over something and have been incredibly disrespectful to the gods.
Make whatever decisions you want but quit whining about what's "fair".
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All I can say to you is sorry but you dont even make any sense person above you named FancyMancy talked with some sense at least.
Like I said above again there is a possibility of deleting from existance and being astrally prisoned by enemy too just because I didnt believe in satan fully?

It is normal for you to say it and think it. Understanding comes in stages. If you explain quantum physics to a child, it is difficult for him to understand what you explain, he needs time and understanding. And in his mind he will think it is invalid or doesn't make sense. But that does not invalidate reality. But it does invalidate his perception.

You can be destroyed even if you “believe” in Satan. There are many people who believe in Satan, through other forms of toxic/corrupt Satanism, where you kill people and other disgusting things, you believe Satan will take care of them, no. But they “believe” in Him. The “believe” I have already expounded, as you understand it, does not count and is not sufficient. Remember the explanation made earlier about the bridge!!!? Why doesn't Satan save him directly? Doesn't he care about him? It doesn't work that way. Gods warn you about this.

The problem is that you don't have the power to do this on your own, in other planes without protection you will die. It is as if you were in a forest full of hungry lions. Your survival rate is minimal.

while satan can take me to his place and help me to better reincarnation for opening my third eye? why is satan dont care about the ones who is never going to be reincarnated again? I understand your point too every action has consequences I am questioning Satans sense of justice here.

Another problem is that you can't question anything you don't understand or know. Gods are at a level that normal people do not understand, you have many knowledge deficiencies that do not allow you to understand things, and it is normal not to understand. Compared to the Gods we are the children trying to understand quantum physics. And as I have repeated many times, Gods will decide according to Their will and power.

#39

Look, first and foremost , Welcome to the Jos Forum , seems like you've got a lot of questions and that's a good thing, ask away!

I am not working against Satan and why shouldnt I deserve being in his place and High Priestess Lydia said that non believers can go to the Duat too

I've got a better question: Why should you deserve ? - This is not to say that you deserve or not but the question has relevance, ask yourself that.

maybe there are more people than you think that cares about it who knows

And what would make you one of those people?

yes I would help and maybe in my next reincarnation I will believe in the satan who knows

I doubt you're honest with yourself or you simply don't understand what you're saying. How to help someone when you doubt whether they really exist or not,

there is a possibility for being prisoned astrally and rotten away too and its not okey to me.

Well.. knowing this why would you take the risk then?

You got all the information's you need on the forum, just do you research. Stop bothering about the other 'probabilities' and the other souls and focus more on your own. You have been given the chance to see the truth it's up to you if you would see it or not .

Why would anyone choose any other path then this one? There's nothing spiritual about other religions , no mditations , no informations about how the souls and mind works just nothing at all , sheep's bending their knee to a non-existent being, religions who were made out of illegal crime and lies and many other odious thigs. Rise above , be better.

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You got all the information's you need on the forum, just do you research. Stop bothering about the other 'probabilities' and the other souls and focus more on your own. You have been given the chance to see the truth it's up to you if you would see it or not .

Exactly. It sounds like he's trying to waste people's time.

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It is normal for you to say it and think it. Understanding comes in stages. If you explain quantum physics to a child, it is difficult for him to understand what you explain, he needs time and understanding. And in his mind he will think it is invalid or doesn't make sense. But that does not invalidate reality. But it does invalidate his perception.
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you are giving me zero answers again your arguments are like the classic god knows the best and the yes you are going to be fricked out by enemy but not only you there are others too lets say okey to your first argument but second one is not even a argument