HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Alexander said:
Any opinion on ''drugs'' like psilocybin mushroom, it does not lead to physical dependence, and a lot of people reported very positive effects from taking these mushrooms, even life changing and reality altering experiences.
Obviously everything needs moderation and this not something to play with or not take seriously, but would you guys charecterize psilocybin mushrooms as something negative that should be avoided at all costs?
I do not characterize drugs as simply bad. They are useless. Useless means just that, useless. One simply does not need them. Doing some useless things can also highly damage you, such as in the case of drugs.
You do not need shrooms to have a good spiritual experience, you don't need shrooms to feel better, you don't need cocaine to feel confidence, or weed to help you relax.
I think many of these people are over-exaggerating, granted, they have been feeling like shit all their life, from not doing sports, meditation, following a proper diet, getting constantly wasted, smoking cancer stick and so forth. Therefore, any improvement in the above train-wreck condition is seen as a very good and 'positive' experience.
People also believe in these drugs so much. In other words, it's their belief in the drugs that causes the changes. If you believe that a banana gives you so much intense energy, you can actually feel eating banana's way more than someone that doesn't.
Spiritually speaking all drugs are from the 'fake side' and the negative aspect of reality. There are no spiritual outcomes from drugs, just material hallucinations. One example is the stoner pseudo mage Crowley, he was magically infertile and powerless. At best, they alter your material body, while causing issues and imbalances at the soul. The soul (what you carry with you through multiple lifetimes) gets worn out by usage.
Drugs are like going on a merry go round. You see the world spinning, but nothing is spinning. It's all a lie and bollocks. It's also very lonely, so to say. Spiritual experiences transform you from the inside and out, they don't just mess with your biochemistry.
I agree with you, the High Priest of the Cobra in the Hood, but there are still some interesting points that I would like to mention but did not find a suitable button... perhaps to create a separate topic for discussing alchemical moments
I used to think that in my ideal WW2 regime society fly agaric chips would be sold everywhere, and the great Kshatriya warriors in brown shirts with a black dot and a cap with a dead head would distribute pineapple juice to wash down mushrooms for free every morning to people, but having figured it out and immersed themselves in some real experiments on themselves and research material (I write from a translator from Russian, do not blame mistakes if there are semantic ones)
I realized that mushrooms have their place in the world and they do not need to be disliked or hated for sure, they are the children of the earth of our planet, in fact they are even closer to the earth than mammals (I can not say for other things like Ayawaska, and it is the fly agaric specifically, now it will be discussed) that the fly agaric as a spirit, a collection of spiritual beings in a mushroom (someone will say foreigners), maybe teachers to some extent, rather has a subtle meaning close to the lower astral, and not to the spiritual world, there is absolutely no higher.
+ Fly agaric has more to do with the mental plan and if it helps in small doses only and cleanses then only the mental plan, heads and thoughts, cleans the disk perhaps
But that's not all, mushrooms in general, by their very nature in ancient times, had the symbolism of death
. Look on the Internet for information about this
The real death
Shiva was sometimes depicted with mushrooms (in the guise of the ruler of the spirits of nature, the world of the dead and all others)
There was a Hindu ritual, one associated with death
Sallekhana (IAST: sallekhanā), also known as samlehna, santhara, samadhi-marana or sanyasana-marana
And in some images of this ritual, a person is under a mushroom
Dionysus was also sometimes depicted with a mushroom as a symbolism of ritual madness
The symbolism of death is absolutely correlated with the experience of people
Bad Trip (again, it's only about fly agaric, I haven't tried anything else)
When your consciousness and thoughts accelerate and everything comes to the realization of yourself as God in your head, at first you feel a little physically ill, then it becomes good mental blocks fly off the body flies, visualization shines brightly (with good mental and physical preparation and the absence of addictions and mixing the mushroom with something)
At one point it comes to some thoughts and then you get caught as if someone is in Tartor
But it all closes up and an endless terrible death and birth begins
You disintegrate into atoms and reassemble yourself looking for an option to stop it
It's like playing chess with yourself where you can't win with a mushroom
Or a game with the mushroom itself where the mushroom wins anyway
At least I had such an experience and after I started reading about it, many people have the same thing
As a result, it ends when it has already become so unbearable and you are forever begging at least someone to finish it, higher powers, etc
. And then falling into darkness
And you wake up and you're just glad that you're alive, after that you revised a lot....
That's how it was with me
People write that it was necessary to "accept death" but of course then I did not read about it and could not even think that it turns out that it is necessary to accept death
Then it seemed that I would either go crazy or die, or agents and aliens of some kind would break in and kill me for knowing too much and allowing myself to
Or just this torment will end and I will die already
Or I have already died and therefore everything repeats itself, this was probably the most terrible thought
After this experience, I began to treat death differently and they are not afraid of it at all, but on the contrary, I wanted to live, became somehow more gently cordial emotionally temporarily ...
It's hard to say for sure, but the assumptions are
The fact that mushrooms are associated with death, some and the earth, there is definitely such a moment.
Perhaps with Saturn
The moon and Mercury are planetary
The color of the mushrooms may matter, as does the color of the chakras
I also used to think that since there is a blood connection with traditions, based on past incarnations and kind, those who were already in contact with mushrooms, for example, through Shamanism, are more relaxed about this, it is worth remembering that shamans of the north often penetrate into the world of nature spirits, elementals, animals, plants, mushrooms, etc
There are controversial points further with allegories or with the physical manifestations of any allegories on our planet
About Wotan is a text from the elder Edda where he drank the magic honey that his Grandfather gave him before hanging on the tree for the sake of knowledge of runes, There is also an interesting study on this topic, "the search for the Somme, the main riddle of all the Vedas"
