Answers: "Are The Gods Responsible?"

[FancyMancy]

they persist, and have never gave up on us! For thousands upon thousands of years, Earth has been on Their minds. Thousands of years they fought the enemy across the Universe, and thought of ways how to defeat the enemy here.

They knew They had us here on this planet that are with Them for thousands of years, Their children that They know personally. And through us, They tried to do everything they can to inflict damage to the enemy. And They were successful with this. They got in contact with HP Maxine almost two decades ago, and from that moment, everything has changed. Gods have influence on Earth again.

People have an unrealistic idea of Spirituality and Magick. It's not like Sabrina, the Teenaged Witch and Harry Potter, incanting a rhyme or Latin word/phrase. Similarly to how people always want things now, now, now, they have this immediate-gratification, immediate-results notion, and once it fails, - after not giving it an actual, proper go, then they decide it's all BS. Their own ignorant expectations and guesses, which are not realistic and not true, cause them to ignore reality. Fantasy is more reality to them than reality is. I think there is one or more forms of psycho-something-or-other in there somewhere... :|

When the "New Gods" ie, the Reptilians showed up and started demanding human sacrifice, or told people to destroy everything of the "Old Gods", some people actually caved in and gave them what they wanted, and this started the period of general decay.

This makes me wonder, did the Gods know what exactly was going to happen? If so, did they warn people that green dudes will come down at some point telling them to make human sacrifices?

I'm just trying to figure out what exactly it was that caused people to "cave in" to these green fuckers. Was it a lack of education on the dangers? Personal ego issues/immaturity? Or did the Reptilians employ magick on them to coax them into doing it? Or all of the above?

While I don't mind a bit of imagination and speculation, I am not comfortable doing so about this type of thing; however, to be able to try and come to some sort of unknowing/ignorant fathoming, I say it so as to give some ideas and possibilities - call them hypotheses, if you will.

Presumably, greys, with thoughtforms and Chakra-poisoning/Light Body-poisoning and colour work, according to individuals' Natal charts, were used to mind-rape individuals, possibly into doing this, that, and the other; to be slaves of the reptilian gatecrashers, maybe to hand over their newborn Gentile Child/ren for them to be grown and then used and jewified; DNA extracted from the Gentiles and a shit facsimile being made, with Yehubor soul being implanted... (Of course, they have the blueprints already, having done this on countless other Planets, but each appear to be self-contained. There may be some differences per Planet and astronomical location, so blueprints from X Planet would be more like a different-shade-of-blueprint for Y Planet.) These firsts would most definitely have been consumed by the reptillians... I would say here that individuals were snatched by the reptillians, but then that would be noticed and people would miss them and figure things out. Perhaps both, snatching and mind-raping/other Magick as I mentioned, simultaneously.

Again - the speculation is not comfortable here, but I have tried being realistic and feasible in it.

 

[FancyMancy]

Satan has told me only in our galaxy block there are many planets that require help. There are even numbers to this. The enemy also has completely taken over specific planets as key points and some of these are solely "planetary factories" which are used as psychic and general charging stations for the enemy.

Of course, if any beings live there, they are only borg or permanently enslaved.

Oh. That is another option or point. I didn't want to speculate too far, but I would have come up with that type of thing if I thought about it for a bit longer.

This is true. Some of them do not want nothing to do with humanity. Like no offense but we don't want to do anything with you.

I said this and this is very true. I have seen a few of them myself. They want nothing to do with humanity, no introduction, and they will not waste a second on present day humanity.

This is why for the beings that actually care to do so, it is a good idea to give them respect and proper treatment.

Not even the mother or the father physically of some people give a shit about them, nor nobody else on this world. But when the Gods look down to them to help, all they have to say is complaints, and they generally treat them like crap.

Seeing this I understand why some Demons refuse to help humanity or avoid us altogether. Some Gods do refuse and do not want any interaction with mankind, and at best condition may help us only because other Demons put them to the task, or because of some larger goal.

This is because the more powerful Gods like Satan do care. Still, they these Demons themselves do not hold a favorable opinion about us.

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I believe I once read somewhere, in a sermon or even on the JoS site, that there are tons upon tons of Gods allied to Satan who do not want to engage with humans in their current state at all. And I can really understand why that is, because of how disgustingly egotistical, selfish, and downright evil people have become nowadays, even at a soul level.

Huh. We'll show them!

 

[Eric13]

Huh. We'll show them!

I thought the same for a bit after reading that. In my mind I thought well if the highest gods see value in us, then wouldn’t lesser gods see our value too, they are still wise gods? Since they don’t it seems possible that Satan and the gods that are helpful to humanity have more emotional ties to us leading their actions. As well as logical and practical ties too of course. The gods not bothered with us are probably from other worlds and have no dog in this race. They’re seeing it from a different perspective and certainly aren’t wrong for their stance on the matter. It is what it is, but what matters for us is we aren’t left behind. And as cobra said, we should have incredible gratitude and show tremendous respect to the gods who do choose to aid us.

All this shows is the main point against what the op said, wondering why the gods left bla bla bla. As was said many times on this thread, the gods are helping. Satan is our creator and is behaving above and beyond what any being should ever do in our case. Again, how fortunate for us and what inspiring fuel for more rtrs!

 

[BigBeaver]

As far as I know, the Gods did leave us a system to protect us and if we did keep it up maybe we wouldn't be in this situation...Humans have their fault too.

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Still, we know the story about our gods and the greys, but the lizards what are they exactly? Like i want to know more about them, why they are such assholes, like they should knew that this kind of tyrannical way of expanding is risky since other would arise against them.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Listening to defeatist and nonsensical whiny tears and complaints that only bottom up to your emotional output is not an argument.

You blame the Gods with zero evidence and caring of the facts which are clear as sky all around.

This is a dishonest point and your so called debating and starts from a lie and false accussation, that they somehow carelessly abandonned us for no reason and sorry us.

You just accuse them without saying anything but emotional garbage. Regardless even this got an answer in your own post.

Posing fake emotion based questions that start from a lie and demand to debate them is not "arguing".

What you did was pose an emotional "why they did not sit here to cater us as their babies". This is based on endless false conceptions about how things happened and why they didn't happen how you think is best.

Then you insist with another reply with the same line. Of course I will delete.

Others have also given you viable responses, but you of course, these do not matter. Emotions do.

"I felt it should be a different way and since the Gods didn't do it this way, they do not stand to my high and mighty baseline of what wuz real in my mind n shieet. They are guilty for it!".

Why not argue me in an open discussion then, HP Hoodedcobra, if I'm so stupid and childish? Should be easy for you to take me down, but you keep blocking my posts.

 

[GG Allin]

Why not argue me in an open discussion then, HP Hoodedcobra, if I'm so stupid and childish? Should be easy for you to take me down, but you keep blocking my posts.

Your possibility to complain, should be evidence enouth that they did, do and will help us the best they can.

Which would have been the highest lost? The death of our race/souls. Are we dead ? No, so stop complaining, start doing the Final RTR.

But I'm glad you asked, because the HP and HPS did provide some good info. Thanks for that. Take the knowlege, abandon your anger (or use it for the rtr ). Evolve. Welcome back.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

The highest proof of their providence for us is that we still have the spiritual knowledge around and we can meditate, apply, advance and ascend. When you apply this you will see it. This is the key to everything superior in humanity.

If one has not sufficient understanding of meditation, and looks at the Gods and judges them from the materialistic and theistic standpoint, there is still a lot of supportive proof for them, but the capstone is the spiritual knowledge.

Then also the important gifts of the Gods such as the mind, the use of magick, the consciousness, and other important teachings of theirs do make actual effects and come into place.

This is war guys I am also bummed out things aren't "as they should be", but I can't ask for a golden bathtub in the war trench.

 

[Egon]

Seeing this I understand why some Demons refuse to help humanity or avoid us altogether. Some Gods do refuse and do not want any interaction with mankind, and at best condition may help us only because other Demons put them to the task, or because of some larger goal.

Relatable. I as a human hear so much dumb shit that sometimes I wish to rip my eardrums off and be deaf for life, imagine how disgusting and pathetic the avarage lesser-than slave of reps is to highly advanced Gods.

And it seems the dumber the person is the more demanding and entitled they are, so if I was born a Demon I'd probably not want to be summoned either.

 

[Sunny]

Listening to defeatist and nonsensical whiny tears and complaints that only bottom up to your emotional output is not an argument.

You blame the Gods with zero evidence and caring of the facts which are clear as sky all around.

This is a dishonest point and your so called debating and starts from a lie and false accussation, that they somehow carelessly abandonned us for no reason and sorry us.

You just accuse them without saying anything but emotional garbage. Regardless even this got an answer in your own post.

Posing fake emotion based questions that start from a lie and demand to debate them is not "arguing".

What you did was pose an emotional "why they did not sit here to cater us as their babies". This is based on endless false conceptions about how things happened and why they didn't happen how you think is best.

Then you insist with another reply with the same line. Of course I will delete.

Others have also given you viable responses, but you of course, these do not matter. Emotions do.

"I felt it should be a different way and since the Gods didn't do it this way, they do not stand to my high and mighty baseline of what wuz real in my mind n shieet. They are guilty for it!".

Why not argue me in an open discussion then, HP Hoodedcobra, if I'm so stupid and childish? Should be easy for you to take me down, but you keep blocking my posts.

Satan and his gods have done much for us. This is the most selfishly and childishly stupid thing I have ever read... To accuse our Gods of not being left to die with us. It's pathetic.
First of all, our Gods were not forced to create us. It is thanks to our beloved Gods that we exist. They also wanted to elevate us into gods. How can we ask our Gods to die with us and especially for us? Our Gods have sacrificed energy and time for us. It's a lot of time and energy. They could avoid wasting all this time and energy.

 

[BoRn of fire]

This is true. Some of them do not want nothing to do with humanity. Like no offense but we don't want to do anything with you.

I said this and this is very true. I have seen a few of them myself. They want nothing to do with humanity, no introduction, and they will not waste a second on present day humanity.
Imagine the great danger of those who do care choosing then not to care anymore we truely need to show them respect some people also as u stated and Hp mageson that the gods are also greatly outnumbered and we are literally living in a Star Wars saga ... And we (and the gods mostly!) are the resistance
This is why for the beings that actually care to do so, it is a good idea to give them respect and proper treatment.

Not even the mother or the father physically of some people give a shit about them, nor nobody else on this world. But when the Gods look down to them to help, all they have to say is complaints, and they generally treat them like crap.

Seeing this I understand why some Demons refuse to help humanity or avoid us altogether. Some Gods do refuse and do not want any interaction with mankind, and at best condition may help us only because other Demons put them to the task, or because of some larger goal.

This is because the more powerful Gods like Satan do care. Still, they these Demons themselves do not hold a favorable opinion about us.

...

I believe I once read somewhere, in a sermon or even on the JoS site, that there are tons upon tons of Gods allied to Satan who do not want to engage with humans in their current state at all. And I can really understand why that is, because of how disgustingly egotistical, selfish, and downright evil people have become nowadays, even at a soul level.

 

[BoRn of fire]

Even I some times well Mayb most time lol wonder wtf is wrong with people and ask Satan why he even still cares as it doesn't have to take much for the ordinary ss to become annoyed with what is going on around them one just needs to look at the level of how things are in this world the lack of respect towards life the abuse of animals of humans towards other humans the blasphemous attacks towards the gods the amount of brainwashed people and systems spend a dam day on fb without getting annoyed I'll give you a noddy badge anyway what I'm saying is I can fully understand why some of these beings wouldn't want any sort of interaction with us but the fact that Satan and the other gods known to us do and do interact with us must be met with great reverence and respect from our side I'm pretty sure for each and everyone that is dedicated here or that is still to dedicate ... Satan has always been there for you even when it didn't seem that way ... I mean here you are right ???? Hail Satan Hail Dagon

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

If a company crashes down, do the employees have a right to question the decisions of the CEO?

Yes? Ok, let me continue then.

Where was the military defense of this planet when it was nuked 10 000 years ago? Did we even have one?

And if we did have one, it wasn't enough. So either the Gods overestimated their own power, or they underestimated the power of other beings out there. They knew there were other advanced lifeforms out there that could potentially pose a threat.

Their lack of judgement, their fuck up. Simple. Or are you gonna pretend it was someone else's decision to make? Whos then?

Are you gonna let me post this time or are you gonna go Jewtube censorship on me again, while pretending to be an advocator of free thought and speech?

You just prove that you think little and whine a lot. And that the whole deal is about trying to just blame the Gods. You have a endless wrong assumption of what psychic and otherwise means can do, how much time it takes to make things.

If a company crashes by the global financial market or some external force it does not mean that it is the CEO's or the company's fault.

If you think the CEO is some omnipotent "God" who can do no wrong, might as well blame him. After all, this is the understanding of an employee. It's comfortable to always blame one's so called "Boss"or superior while one has zero understanding of what they do. One just points the finger and their day is always great.

Free speech and Free speech to shill within the JoS Forums are two different topics, if you pay attention there is not much Shlomo walking around here. Free speech is about larger society not about having trolls in a specific internet forum. This standard is very highly maintained with 99.9% non shlomo becoming accepted anyway.

The argument that oh they knew evil beings existed is again asinine. You know everyday when you live that certain diseases exist. If you go suicide or impede your whole advancement over the existence of a flu, or not have children because you know it may get a cold, life would have stopped a long time ago.

With these points explained this is my last reply.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Listening to defeatist...

Why not argue me in an open discussion then, HP Hoodedcobra, if I'm so stupid and childish? Should be easy for you to take me down, but you keep blocking my posts.

Satan and his gods have done much for us. This is the most selfishly and childishly stupid thing I have ever read... To accuse our Gods of not being left to die with us. It's pathetic.
First of all, our Gods were not forced to create us. It is thanks to our beloved Gods that we exist. They also wanted to elevate us into gods. How can we ask our Gods to die with us and especially for us? Our Gods have sacrificed energy and time for us. It's a lot of time and energy. They could avoid wasting all this time and energy.

Everytime you help a beggar on the street, some beggars will only hate you for not helping them more. And some will also ask "But you are a philanthropist, why do not you become beggar like us to prove you love us"?

The more gracious the help, the more the risk of you being mugged and slain by the "poor beggar". Some people may also really respect this, but others will take your throat.

This argument boils down to why not who is superior and better is not also your slave, and why they do not sacrifice their whole being for YOU. This argument is motivated by total selfishness parading itself to pose a selfless argument of "love" or some other person.

"But baby if you really loved me you would be taking heroin as much as I do".

 

[Eric13]

Yes? Ok, let me continue then.

Why do you wish to continue? This entire thread was based on proving you wrong and was done highly successfully by numerous members and high priest's lol.

At a certain point, you’ve have to let your pride down and understand the circumstance isn’t the way you see it and that’s a good thing. Be glad the gods intentions are to help us, accept it and do your part to give back and read very carefully the posts made on this thread explaining the error in your thoughts because you’re looking at things from a very narrow perspective and then let it be that. Otherwise, this stubbornness will hold you back. And not just in this matter but with many things. Being wrong about something isn’t the end of the world and if you’re corrected it’s even better cause now you’re growing.

 

[FancyMancy]

If a company crashes down, do the employees have a right to question the decisions of the CEO?

Yes? Ok, let me continue then.

Where was the military defense of this planet when it was nuked 10 000 years ago? Did we even have one?

And if we did have one, it wasn't enough. So either the Gods overestimated their own power, or they underestimated the power of other beings out there. They knew there were other advanced lifeforms out there that could potentially pose a threat.

Their lack of judgement, their fuck up. Simple. Or are you gonna pretend it was someone else's decision to make? Whos then?

Are you gonna let me post this time or are you gonna go Jewtube censorship on me again, while pretending to be an advocator of free thought and speech?

Did you advance to not-a-very-far amount where you can discern things for yourself and not be deceived yet, or are you using the lack of an answer as a reason and an excuse to not be bothered to do things? If you have your Third Eye, and related things, functioning properly, then, as you should know, it is harder for you to be deceived, and you can see things - both in terms of seeing things and also in terms of understanding things - more, better and easier. You have homework, or perhaps coursework, to do, mister. All you want is an answer, yes? Then see the answer.

"The membership to the gym is too expensive, and they make enough money so they should give Entitled Me a discount - or better yet a two hundred percent discount - so I won't pump iron nor run on the treadmills. To spite them further, I won't eat healthily, drink healthily, I won't do fitness training, aerobic and anaerobic exercise; I won't bathe; I will grow mushrooms in my arse crack, I will scratch bedsoars...; instead I'll spend my money in fatdonald's and other fat food shops. That'll show 'em." Yeah? 'Tis, ya.

 

[Odysseus]

Hello, regarding our origins and history , I am curious to know if what is written in ,,The Lost Book of Enki '' is true , whether it is authentic or is a codified story.It tells that Satan is at war with Anu ,,his father'' , and that Anu is working with the reptiles to enslave humanity. It made sense as Anu's mindset and personality became the basis of the Abrahimic religions of enslaving according to that book. Just wanted to know because the posibilities are endless. Thank you .

 

[Arcadia [NG]]

Hello, regarding our origins and history , I am curious to know if what is written in ,,The Lost Book of Enki '' is true , whether it is authentic or is a codified story.It tells that Satan is at war with Anu ,,his father'' , and that Anu is working with the reptiles to enslave humanity. It made sense as Anu's mindset and personality became the basis of the Abrahimic religions of enslaving according to that book. Just wanted to know because the posibilities are endless. Thank you .

Don't feel at all bad for asking this question, because there's a few other, and I use the word loosely here, "Pagan" movements that are "aware" there's a problem in the world, and that the Pagan Gods are the true Gods. However this is usually where the sanity ends for most of these other movements, as I can think of one fairly large online movement in particular obsessed with viewing the "Satan vs Anu" thing extremely literally. The shorthand answer is that it's codified. Another example of the actual mythos can be seen in Zeus vs Chronos (Saturn). Zeus of course, being Satan, as having been discussed in previous threads, and Chronos, within the myth, being his father and king of the Titans. See, this myth isn't literal, but it does represent Zeus/Satan's Godhood, and in turn, the process of Godhood that we ourselves are capable of. Which is the process of overcoming the ravages of time portrayed by Saturn and achieving Godhood.

This is a simplified version, of course, and there's more to it but I'm just explaining it briefly for the sake of expedience. Also discussed is the alchemical transformative process of Godhood as well, which is the transformation of the "Titanic" body into an "Olympian", same as Zeus the Olympian overcoming Chronos the Titan. There's a bunch of other ones, like Chronos/Saturn drinking ambrosia in the Elysian Fields after being taken there by Zeus. The list goes on, but its the same codified myth in Sumerian/Babylonian texts as well.

Anu/Saturn/Chronos or whatever other name you want to go by is not really a literal being, rather a representation of forces important for our own understanding of spiritual progression. The Reptillians are simply beholden to themselves and their own agenda.

No apologies! As I say, Physicality is always ssllooww, always lagging behind, always catching up. Things have to be possible Physically.

Heh, I was hoping you'd appear, since the last time I made a post of the sort it was you pitching in and helping clarify. Alas, for some reason I always think posts look way longer before I've hit submit, then in reality they're fine enough. Wordcount paranoia is real.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

@ConsistentMeditator I did not mention that Gear's question was pointless, it is a very neat question, but requires a big and elaborate, thorough reply. I made a general statement about why there is a paced progress with knowledge.

I know for a fact the Gods did not leave here extremely developed non-bio-breaking technology [everything they have left ion the strict technological sense is mostly gone now] now both because of lack of human responsibility and awareness of these matters, and because you do not tend to leave your technology hovering around a place where it can be potentially seized by the enemy.

Plus their type of technology is quite different from our own and spiritually based, so if humans did not follow their advance to the letter, it would still be worthless. A huge time and technology waste on their behalf if this were the case. Big danger for everyone involved.

Things are far more complicated. As time goes progressively I always relate what is proper to the task at hand, will do this in the future too, as I have been before. Part of this is also why this thread had to be opened in order to clear up common misunderstandings so we can achieve a goal of higher understanding of this later.

 

[FancyMancy]

Hello, regarding our origins and history , I am curious to know if what is written in ,,The Lost Book of Enki '' is true , whether it is authentic or is a codified story.It tells that Satan is at war with Anu ,,his father'' , and that Anu is working with the reptiles to enslave humanity. It made sense as Anu's mindset and personality became the basis of the Abrahimic religions of enslaving according to that book. Just wanted to know because the posibilities are endless. Thank you .

Don't feel at all bad for asking this question, because there's a few other, and I use the word loosely here, "Pagan" movements that are "aware" there's a problem in the world, and that the Pagan Gods are the true Gods. However this is usually where the sanity ends for most of these other movements, as I can think of one fairly large online movement in particular obsessed with viewing the "Satan vs Anu" thing extremely literally. The shorthand answer is that it's codified. Another example of the actual mythos can be seen in Zeus vs Chronos (Saturn). Zeus of course, being Satan, as having been discussed in previous threads, and Chronos, within the myth, being his father and king of the Titans. See, this myth isn't literal, but it does represent Zeus/Satan's Godhood, and in turn, the process of Godhood that we ourselves are capable of. Which is the process of overcoming the ravages of time portrayed by Saturn and achieving Godhood.

This is a simplified version, of course, and there's more to it but I'm just explaining it briefly for the sake of expedience. Also discussed is the alchemical transformative process of Godhood as well, which is the transformation of the "Titanic" body into an "Olympian", same as Zeus the Olympian overcoming Chronos the Titan. There's a bunch of other ones, like Chronos/Saturn drinking ambrosia in the Elysian Fields after being taken there by Zeus. The list goes on, but its the same codified myth in Sumerian/Babylonian texts as well.

Anu/Saturn/Chronos or whatever other name you want to go by is not really a literal being, rather a representation of forces important for our own understanding of spiritual progression. The Reptillians are simply beholden to themselves and their own agenda.

No apologies! As I say, Physicality is always ssllooww, always lagging behind, always catching up. Things have to be possible Physically.

Heh, I was hoping you'd appear, since the last time I made a post of the sort it was you pitching in and helping clarify. Alas, for some reason I always think posts look way longer before I've hit submit, then in reality they're fine enough. Wordcount paranoia is real.

I can't speak for others, but I don't mind longer posts. It is the same for me sometimes. It can take a little while for me to do a longer post, but then when reading it through it seems to be OK.

 

[SilentFlame]

@ConsistentMeditator I did not mention that Gear's question was pointless, it is a very neat question, but requires a big and elaborate, thorough reply. I made a general statement about why there is a paced progress with knowledge.

I know for a fact the Gods did not leave here extremely developed non-bio-breaking technology [everything they have left ion the strict technological sense is mostly gone now] now both because of lack of human responsibility and awareness of these matters, and because you do not tend to leave your technology hovering around a place where it can be potentially seized by the enemy.

Plus their type of technology is quite different from our own and spiritually based, so if humans did not follow their advance to the letter, it would still be worthless. A huge time and technology waste on their behalf if this were the case. Big danger for everyone involved.

Things are far more complicated. As time goes progressively I always relate what is proper to the task at hand, will do this in the future too, as I have been before. Part of this is also why this thread had to be opened in order to clear up common misunderstandings so we can achieve a goal of higher understanding of this later.

Alright, I see what you mean, you don't want to leave any too central and important information as a random solitary post in a thread which would soon be forgotten/missed by most and only seen by Gear88 and a few others rather than a greater number of people like it will if it is the head post of an important article. And I'm glad I was at least somewhat right in criticizing Ankh666 about the explanation of why primitive people were not left nuclear bombs or anything too incredibly powerful like automated factories that could put them in a position to soon destroy the planet or pollute it to death. What you said makes some sense, if the spacecraft used by the Gods were left to normal humans they could be stolen and I doubt they can simply mass produce tens of thousands of these devices made of very advanced metals and other things at little to no cost. And it's not like leaving people a UFO is necessarily a meaningful thing to do if there is nowhere in space they could go colonize in the first place without going into enemy territory or towards an already colonized allied planet, and meanwhile, they might destroy themselves with it or achieve nothing against overwhelming numbers of enemies.

There are many things that seemed to be left behind with knowledge that just got lost anyways. I am sure if the alexandria library and many other important things were not destroyed that humanity would probably already be in space by now as you and mageson said in other articles here. The whole renaissance was literally just based on picking up the remains of what the classical philosophers knew before the Christians destroyed nearly everything and started the Dark Ages. Nobody points out in the mainstream media nowadays how for their time, the ancient Greeks and Romans and others were making pretty decently fast technological progress, far far faster compared to the Christians who mostly just erased progress, they were not 'primitives' at all, I worded that a bit poorly.

What you said about spirituality being necessary in some technology makes me wonder how much the flying disk spacecrafts, which seem to be the central fighting unit in these space wars, have to do with the spiritual power of the driver and if that is necessary for the anti-gravity component to operate at full potential or for the ship to fly at maximum speed. I would imagine though that real life is not literally like Dragon Ball Z, and that technology is still overall a very central thing in all these space wars. Even if their powers mean little for firepower, having super advanced psychic powers would still seem very important for pilots to aim well and maneuver effectively.

But that is getting off topic, overall I agree with what you're saying about why it would be better to put that kind of information in a more detailed thread if you're going to do more than just a 1 or 2 paragraph explanation.

 

[SoniaWilson]

Apparently, the Gods left us a framework to ensure us and on the off chance that we kept it up possibly we wouldn't be in this situation...Humans have their shortcoming as well.

 

[GG Allin]

But this is quite difficult as in particular they feast on those who are very lower from them.

They are probably like thear human version "pacifist by nature" / cowards who only attack the weak.
(from https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25621)

 

[Gearshift]

@ConsistentMeditator I did not mention that Gear's question was pointless, it is a very neat question, but requires a big and elaborate, thorough reply. I made a general statement about why there is a paced progress with knowledge.

I know for a fact the Gods did not leave here extremely developed non-bio-breaking technology [everything they have left ion the strict technological sense is mostly gone now] now both because of lack of human responsibility and awareness of these matters, and because you do not tend to leave your technology hovering around a place where it can be potentially seized by the enemy.

Plus their type of technology is quite different from our own and spiritually based, so if humans did not follow their advance to the letter, it would still be worthless. A huge time and technology waste on their behalf if this were the case. Big danger for everyone involved.

Things are far more complicated. As time goes progressively I always relate what is proper to the task at hand, will do this in the future too, as I have been before. Part of this is also why this thread had to be opened in order to clear up common misunderstandings so we can achieve a goal of higher understanding of this later.

@HP.Cobra

It's okay I'm just glad you found it valuable enough that in the future you might try and do a formal reply. Kinda like how we had people talking about Lucifuge Rofocal. And then you replied with his only about 50 or so of Lucifuge's people made it out alive including Clistheret, (Think?, Mersilde), Valefore and a few others whom left about 10K years ago.

In other words people wondered for a while and somethings were said but eventually you made the reply about his home planet in the long message.

...technology...

I know the enemy doesn't care but considering Godly-tech is free-energy high-end cutting edge. I'm guess even they don't fully understand how to use it.

I'm sure a gun would probably be more likely what they might use than say a free-energy genny.

So even if they take something that was left behind it's like "I'm 12 what is this". Right or is the enemy after technology. Kinda like the replicators from StarGate, always after more cutting edge shit to make more shit from.

 

[FancyMancy]

There are many things that seemed to be left behind with knowledge that just got lost anyways. I am sure if the alexandria library and many other important things were not destroyed that humanity would probably already be in space by now as you and mageson said in other articles here.

The whole renaissance was literally just based on picking up the remains of what the classical philosophers knew before the Christians destroyed nearly everything and started the Dark Ages. Nobody points out in the mainstream media nowadays how for their time, the ancient Greeks and Romans and others were making pretty decently fast technological progress, far far faster compared to the Christians who mostly just erased progress, they were not 'primitives' at all, I worded that a bit poorly.

 

[Ghost in the Machine]

I think what people don't understand is that the gods are not bound by some philosophical and imaginary oath like 'oh they are a super advanced species, they should be full of wisdom and do all these mysterious things beyond our understanding for the greater good of the universe'.... no... they are more bluntly aware and sentient than this just like us. They are fully capable of being selfish like us, they can be dishonest like us, they have different personalities like us, different likes and dislikes, they are not one whole 'organ' that is forced to follow some invisible set of binding laws of the universe that prevents them from being able to do what they want to do according to each and every one of their own desires. And to believe they do is thinking they're like the enemy taught bullshit of some all-wise 'god' that 'works in mysterious ways'.

If you were to suddenly have all of the abilities of one of the gods and suddenly out of no where became a god... all your 'flaws' and all your traits that make up you that you still retain are not going to magically go away: selfishness, lying, greediness, aggression, etc. The gods can be like this if they wanted to and some of them are which is why whenever you go to meet a demon or one of the gods for the first time, you need to go through Satan first, especially if it's a demon or god not listed on our website. The gods believe in complete freedom and know that nature is nature. The only thing that truly matters to them is our loyalty to Satan, our respect for them and recognition for all his followers do for us. It is our OBLIGATION to reciprocate in kindness because we, like them, are empathic creatures with a sense of honour, but again back to nature not all of us are like this to the letter. They do not FORCE us to reciprocate anything in obligation, you choose to do so of your own whim and will receive whatever comes as a result such as protection, assistance when needed, it's just paying kindness with kindness like you and I would do.

But because you are free to do as you wish you will still face whatever comes as a result of choosing not to reciprocate their kindness to us, such as lack of protection, less regard, etc. It's honestly not complicated, it's simple like if it was something between your or I. If you do something nice for me, I will be more inclined to do something nice for you in return. If you ignore me, I will ignore you, if you treat me disrespectfully or enrage me, I will be hostile to you. These same kind of interactions are with the gods as well. Yes they are super advanced and have existed for far longer than we have as humans, but interaction, respect, personalities... it's not that complicated.

I have been surprised again and again when the gods come to save my ass in cases where the enemy attacks me and I am unable to fight them off, either I'm being overpowered or I am weakened, whatever the reason. Or when they even bother to communicate with me or answer my questions, or when they regard me at all in any sense really. Because even though every day I do the RTRs, every day I work to make myself stronger and advance, share information about the truth to outsiders and remain loyal to Satan despite how many times the enemy has tried to coerce me; because even though I do all of this, I am not a 'nice' guy. I'm not a 'good' person, I'm not some 'hero' personified, especially to those-who-are-without. I'm sadistic, I take wicked interest and fascination in terrible things, I am selfish, I am greedy and severely lack in proper morale, rebellious against authority, etc.

For them to still help me in many ways, even with little or seemingly meager things despite the kind of person I am, that is enough for me to 100% refute anyone who says the gods do not take care of their followers and their people, or that they have abandoned us or are leaving us to perish to save themselves. Because if they bother with even someone like me, then that just makes it even more certain for the rest of us. I am the way I am because that is my nature, it's how I am because of my natal chart and it used to be far worse before I came to the gods and began making the effort to discipline it on behalf of their own moral sense, I used to actually act on my interests but this has since changed and I've found healthier methods of venting and expressing that don't harm anyone or anything... except for the enemy of course. And even when I repeatedly think I don't deserve the gods' time or their efforts, they still spend the effort to bother with me. I am certain they don't condone my interests and caterings, but they don't seem to let that stop them from ensuring I can advance and fight in peace.

Maybe I'm just an asset, or maybe they really do still love me despite the kind of person I am, I have yet to truly know all the details. But regardless of this I definitely let them know each time that I am grateful and appreciated of them, because I have been attacked by the enemy before I've had their protection, and I can promise you I would not be alive today if it had continued that way. And I will continue to remain loyal to Satan and his cause and fight on their behalf. Because they have not forgotten us.

 

[Windstrider666]

Ascention would've been Irrelivant in this situation. There were millions I'd humans. The Yehuborim have always been a small minority and people were advanced enough to tell if someone was toxic. There's no excuse for not removing this problem before it started. Instead we had 6000 years of global suffering. Even the Greeks and Romans could've easily stomped them out. Which would mean no Christianity, the one thing that prevented Rome from galactic conquest. I hope we do away with murcy for all parasitic life

Except we aren't ruthless and warmongering. What you suggest is akin to genocide of any and all "potential" threats. They key here is potential. The more we advance and evolve the more options we get. At this point in time with our limited understanding and knowledge of the ancient people we could point fingers and blame them about all sorts of whys and why nots. The reality of the matter is that the Yehuborim are still here and those civilizations aren't. Perhaps they were "too merciful" or some other reason. Taking that logic to the extreme we could even say "why didnt the Gods just completely eradicate the Reptilians etc from the start before they even became a threat". Its a pointless train of thought when there isnt enough information and level of understanding.

From my point of view, one could decide to go out of their way and destroy any thing that could harm them. Its what the Reptilians seem to want to do. We are a potential threat to them so they decided to come and wipe us out of existence. It also seems like they have been doing that to many others. But we aren't like that. Its why the Yehuborim were tolerated for so long. But that time has come and has passed. The option of peaceful negotiations have disappeared. This ends either in their destruction or ours and nothing in-between. In the future maybe something similar happens with a different group but at the very least I believe "ex***ination" as the first and only option right at the start isn't the right answer.

The Reptilians want to enslave us, not destroy us. If their concern was removing threats they'd blow up every planet with life like they did Mars and Phaeton. A parasite thrives off of abuse and as such is not a "potential" threat but a legitimate one. And as HoodedCobra said, expulsion doesn't work. When fighting an existential threat, you have to go hard or your species is gone and if you're aware a species is genetically engineered spacifically to cause your species as much suffering as possible, there's only one solution: extermination

Yes they are a legitimate threat "now". Current tense. In the present. But there was once a time when they weren't. There was a time when we and the Gods lived side by side. But the enemy decided to attack and now there's war. If they can they will enslave us and use us as resource for themselves. If they cant they will destroy us. Both are things they will do.

The point I am trying to address is the notion of "destroying all parasitical life" that you mentioned. It is equivalent to saying any and all threats that could hurt us must be eliminated without room for compromise. I would agree if it was a direct threat to us. Anything or anyone that wants war against us will get war. But if its simply "potentially dangerous life" that lives somewhere far away from us and have nothing to do with us or our way of life then going out of our way to intrude on their home and destroy them seems very wrong to me.

The Yehuborim and their group are very much here and a direct threat. Therefore we will fight back and destroy them as these thousands of years of war show that there is no room for peace. Maybe back then we believed there were other options we could take. Maybe it was something else. I certainly do not know what they thought of. I can only speculate based on limited information.

From my point of view, we should have many options we could take in regards to any threat. Complete destruction and extermination shouldn't be the very first thing we think "at the start" of any conflict. Full blown at war should be the last option. Once there is war there is no more room for compromise. That's why it should be last thing we do rather than the first. Preventing conflict from happening or making the conflict as small as possible is much better than going to war like this. But just as we have our own way of life others have their own. We could do what we can to keep things from happening but we aren't responsible for the actions other species take. A small example would be a person taking action to stay healthy but "the common cold" still decides to invade your body. We do what we do, they do what they do. And then the white blood cells attack the cold and we get healthy again. On a larger scale things aren't this simple but I hope I described my point well enough.

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

From what we know the ancients at the time of the Roman empire were as advanced in many ways to the 20th, 19th and 18th centuries. They had steam powered mechanical technology, they had mechanic computers and the basis of atomic theory they must also had latitude and longitude and were sailing the world this includes they knew the mathematical circumference of the earth as well.