Andrew Tate?

[Ursa Minor]

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It would do us a lot of good as a society to in general man up and start accepting freedom of speech which is a decaying quality in the Western World, even from sources which apparently are "evil" like Andrew Tate. In fact, Tate's "worst speech" is nothing compared to the local Imam or Yehubor in a synagogue.
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If anyone knows more about this situation what are your thoughts?

I highlighted a part that could be considered "defending Tate", but only if it's taken out of context. As I've been doing much more meditation since I've dedicated to Satan, my ability to read the intent of an author has improved. I can see you're only making a comparison, not actually defending this guy. I didn't like his persona, so I never watched him that much. I understand what you mean by men needing to man up, you already made a post about that earlier. I think everyone, of both genders, should learn to take responsibility for their actions. The difference is both genders each have unique challenges to go through, which I can really only explain from a male perspective.

Anyway, that part of your post where you talked about degenerate women and men, how men were "trained" to worship said degenerates, and Yehuborim influence I felt like you read my mind. MGTOW was a group I lurked around in before I finally came here. It used to be more centered around male self-help with some "tough-love" and philosophy mixed in, it was actually quite good until it got corrupted by incels and the like. They're not spiritual per-se, but they do (or at least did) encourage self-realization. In fact originally it wasn't even a group, just a mentality intended for a male audience. Of course, after coming (back?) to Satan, I found the missing pieces of the puzzle I was looking for.

 

[Corax 4 Dracon]

Tate COULD be in a situation like Trump has been when they said the famous "Grab them by the pussy", which was nothing really. Or it could be that Tate is sued and attacked over things not really committed that were consensual. The latest situation of Johnny Depp is also a highlight of what quick judgements can do to a person.

Tate's situation is similar to that of Trump, only that Tate is being brought down because he's making money off of Yehuborim instead of for them or with their help.

He got rich using something they created, moved to Romania and stopped giving a fuck. If it goes deeper than that it doesn't matter. He doesn't have any influence or power except over his belongings and the community he's gathered is full of soyboys paying just to be in a Discord with him.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

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Lol
Are you chimping out on cobra now because you got exposed as a pothead that slanders him all over discord?
Direct your anger somewhere else.

 

[hailourtruegod]

If someone would to have asked me my honest opinion on Tate it would had been pretty much the most basic way of saying what you wrote out.

First of all I only have seen like 3 videos on him. The first one was like 5 minutes of others reacting to his convo with ha$$an piker. One with some clips of him saying things and another I saw a longer video of the angry squeaky nerd xqc arguing with him pretending like he didn't understand what Tate was trying to convey about men having to protect women especially their own partner. Although I agree Tate sucks at saying what he means to say. I've been there though and understand how it can be difficult to do so.

The one with a few clips on him I saw him basically say some of his views on women are based on abrahamic filth but at the same time he was saying other things that are common sense as to how men should act.

I don't like being one of the weirdos who think every prominent/controversial person on the internet is a Yehubor as that's only been the case like no more than 25% (at best) of the time people who claim such things.

So my takeaway on him was that he is on the right track of thinking but is getting some of his sources from the enemy without him knowing it's bad for Gentiles.

I have not cared more than this though because I stay away from celebrity nonsense all the time but at the same time I pay attention to the current culture war going on in the West. Almost everyday if not everyday. Unfortunately I need to pay SOME attention to what's going around famous people but I look at it from the bigger picture point of view and not so much of their daily soulless lives.

I knew I heard of his name years ago and when I found out he did MMA I was like oooohhh it's him. With such a background I couldn't logically come to think he was a random person who most likely was a Yehuborim agent trying to stir people away from thinking too much.

I was just saying away from it but like you said his name is plastered everywhere and a lot of the Leftoids are reeeing about him. So that made me think he MUST be somehow good.

One of the main reasons I stayed away from clicking on videos about him these past weeks was because they were either videos kissing his ass or outright just "Tate-man bad beeb boop". Nothing in the middle.

I have noticed you more or less pay attention to the cultural war going on almost as much as I have and I really appreciate not just this neutral stance you have presented but how you presented it in a way that shows the bigger picture of all this as it's the same thought process I was leaning towards when I did give time to think about this person and their influence and how the reactions have been.

I 100% agree how the allegations against him is at the same level they did to Trump as every fool saying things like "there must be a reason he's been investigated for such a grave thing" is utter nonsense! Idk if they're true or not but the point is there has to be a trial first and INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Leftoids don't understand the American Constituion whatsoever and expose themselves for not knowing the 4th Amendment.

There's endless cases of people being accused of such horrible things only to come out as innocent since there were based on outright lies and yes Trump is a great example of this. It's literally the same thing I have been thinking to myself this whole time.

It's annoying seeing people with millions of followers saying to their audience that if you're being accused of something horrible then there's "gotta be a reason for it". Brainwashed and non-logical behaviour.

But if I started saying this online it'll just look like I'm defending him when I would say the same thing about anyone else and I don't even agree with how Tate has presented himself. Like his belief women are men's property to some extent because the bible and quran say so. :roll:

That's pretty much all I have to say. If he is innocent and legit then yes I agree that he would greatly benefit from reading the JoS. Same goes for his followers. And better yet we don't provide a subscription fee to gain all this great knowledge

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

I think Tate is right about his views on self-improvement, strength, and so on. To his credit, he seems to exemplify them to an extent.

However, I think he is overly cynical on his views about women. While cynicism can be tied to reality, it can also refuse to see where change can happen. In this case, he does not see what women can become, yet he does see what men can become.

Beyond that, his other motives seem related to an Instagram lifestyle or enemy religions, but this is normal for most people and not unexpected.

Overall, I am not generally impressed by those who profess this sort of Alpha/Redpill mentality, but that is because I have high standards. This mindset is only partially correct, however this may be helpful enough for many people.

I am not convinced this will lead to a massive resurgence of misogyny, because I don't think the average male is actually misogynistic. Perhaps it will drive men to first get a relationship, then later they can modify their views of women. Currently, the genders are not connected as they should be, regardless of whether they do this in a misogynistic or misandrist manner.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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I'm sorry for saying it in the way that I did. I should have said the same ideas in a nicer way. I am not good at saying things in a way that everyone is happy to see, even if the main idea of what I'm trying to say isn't bad.

 

[FancyMancy]

Who? How is one random influencer(?) on social media, who speaks against the prescribed way and seems to go against the grain relevant? Is this another one of those Alex Joneses or Tucker Carlsons, hoping they read this and asking them to join us because they speak good words? I've never heard of Andrew Tate, now he's this big viral 15-minutes-of-fame ministar? We're now searching for our non-Yehuborim, non-christian, non-islam jesus in the form of any real-life living person, to pump some new blood into our stagnant little forum and ministry? What? :?

This person got 12 billion hits on TikTok and I do believe they deserve a topic as it was everywhere in the news. For days opening up every single page of social media or news has them promoted. The whole internet is rife with this.

Your OP here is the first I knew about a random dude called Andrew Tate.

Perhaps I should read your OP carefully. I just don't get why this post was done. The post about Andrew of Gab made sense, since he said this, she said that, we hate this, they hate that, etc., to try and clear some things up, but this one about this random kickboxer social media influencer? Whoooosh - straight over my head.

 

[FancyMancy]

I don't blindly follow anybody no matter who it is.

Lel - but also seriously, lol, and also :lol:. It's funny that when I say something which seems to be offensive against our HPHC, I get slandered and hated for it, despite me saying it was about me, myself and I, and that I was just using examples to explain my point... then I get told I destroyed myself; I got told I am a Yehubor; I got told I am a traitor; I got told this, that and the other... As I said previously, another member said that I just agree with whatever - in this case - HPHC says because he says it; I, finally, took an opportunity to negate that, and trying to explain myself means I am being a dick, etc. Anyway, trying to think for oneself seems to be illegal, immoral and disgusting - even on this forum. What did one member say? Something like you can say and do whatever, but one single action can... shit on all of your previous stuff and make you be be hated or seen as a traitor or something. I can't remember it exactly and I CBA to go check. People are stupid. I'll say and do what I want. If HPHC is the top, or second, HP (HPS Maxine being the first), and I disagree with something he says or I get hated because I speak honestly which might go against something he says, or using him in an example to explain what I mean... then I lol at these stupid people. These stupid people have Magick abilities, no? Then curse me. Get it over and done with, instead of whingeing, bitching and crying like little pussy losers online. Has Mummy changed your bed sheets yet? Stupid losers.

I have agreed with 99.999% of everything Cobra has ever said, and I likely will agree with 99.999% of everything he will say in the future. I still respect him, just not this one single time with this one single example. And I don't need to agree about this.

Don't worry. You might be hounded and no matter what you say and no matter how you defend yourself, you will be ignored. You will be told all sorts of shit, only some of which might be true. Those who think they care, and also those who care stupidly, will continue to watch you like a hawk. People are stupid. I, on the other hand, take perverse pleasure in giving stupid people such as these something to whinge, cry and bitch about. They are distracted and wasting precious time (yes, I know, I have been rather a hypocrite there...), and I am lolling at these stupid people while I am wanking over dirty Yehuborim porn. (See? There I go (and cum!) again! I bait - who will bite?! Om-nom-nom.)

Every statement from every person should be evaluated by the reader's own personal judgement without instantly agreeing with anything. It is possible for all people to be wrong sometimes.

Someone who is/was on here once told me something along the lines of this inexact phrase - don't worry; we all do fuck-ups. That person might know I am referring to them. I won't mention who it was, though.

If y'all want to say that I am disloyal or that I am unfair against Cobra in any way just because I disagree about this, then fine.

Join the club, bro. (Sorry, but this "bro" here was not sincere. I am being sarcastic, referring to what happened to me recently, but seriously - join the club.)

I am not going to throw away my morals just to follow every single word from somebody. Like I said, I agree with 99.999% of everything he has ever said. This is the only thing I ever disagreed with. So if that is what it means to be disloyal, call me whatever you want.

Yep. The points made, in this case by yourself, are ignored, and emotional reactions take prevalence. I so want to say "You just watch!", but I might be wrong...

 

[Arcadia [NG]]

Me myself, I don't really give a shit about Andrew Tate, but there is symptoms of a larger psyop being played here. The way society has gone, the inevitable outcome was the mass disenfranchisement of teenage boys. The powers that be are aware of this, having orchestrated this themselves. The enemy takes with one hand, and gives with another. When all these ignorant boys are blindfully grasping for role models, these degenerates will be propped up for them to worship. I haven't really seen much worth come out of Andrew Tate, personally. I've really only seen the same behaviour out of him that's been rotting society for a while, which is ghetto esque "get money n bitches n cars" shit. Putting aside the accusations against him, be they true or false, I wouldn't know, the fact remains the same.

Once these icons are put into place, so that young men are brainwashed into thinking these attitudes are desirable to have, the next step is to engineer their subsequent downfall. Mainstream media "cancelling" someone is, sadly, veering towards a vindication of an individual, more than anything. Too many idiots have been turned into martyrs. For the same idiot would-be incels, seeing their hero "cancelled" just reinforces the way they feel. Basically every so-called "right-wing" icon that's been propped up lately has been some degenerative Xian, likely in an organized effort to increasingly see any contrary voice against "the mainstream" as a Xian fundamentalist faux-machoman.

I don't like the man myself. Someone used the right word by describing him as "orcish". And these Xian spastics are so dime-a-dozen it's honestly tiring. Him being cancelled doesn't suddenly make him a bastion of justifiable morality. Frankly, suck shit to him. But I'm not blind to the fact that him being cancelled is otherwise worthless, the media hysteria of him is one massive distraction and the act itself is likely only being performed just so women loathing Xian stooges think they're being oppressed. Seriously, look at every supposed "rightwing personality" that's been pushed into the limelight lately. Every last one of them some Xian swine, like him, Jordan Peterson, etc. And when they inevitably say something ghoulish and the media wets the bed all these idiots get to think they're under attack. The cycle has repeated so many times by this point it's unbelievable.

In any case, it's hypocritical of the media to care so much, when the average Muslim which has been indoctrinated into western society believes women are outright worth half a man or less. As for what people here should think, I would plead that nobody here actually give a rat's ass about a person like Tate, though you'd be wise to see the game that's being played in the background. There's ulterior motives behind everything. Pay as little heed as you can to media circuses. The ethics and morality at play are about as contradictory as the Bible itself, and are designed to confuse. Let the NPC borgs cancel each other until Ragnarok come, and take stock not to start accidentally singing the praises of Xian celebrities just because some bluehaired Libtard got upset about them. Manufactured outrage does not a wise man make.

 

[armanixo]

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-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

I personally think it's a good thing that Andrew Tate got banned because he was actually encouraging men to hate woman and view them as property. I have witnessed him say in many youtube videos now that woman are property, and that if I woman dates him they are his property.

While I don't agree with the hook up culture, he also thinks its ok for men to cheat but not accepted for woman to. That woman must accept it, not have lives, always stay at home while he goes and sleeps with whoever he wants. He has said this several times. He has also said many times woman are stupid and can't teach him anything benefiical to his life. This was not satire.

He also built his empire by human trafficking woman. He is a well known romeo pimp. He start a cam girl company where 50% of his employees, who were woman, we his "girlfriends" and lived with him and gave him ALL their earnings. If the left the house he would not give them any of the money they earned camming.

Ever since he got popular on the internet, a lot of young boys and men have been degrading woman are repeating his rhetoric.

Personally watching him and that fresh and fit podcast made me cry. They are there to uplift men by breaking woman down, not uplifting and empower them too. He is also a heavy supporter or Islam and Christianity. He really believes woman are an inferior species and hangs out with men who share the same beliefs.

 

[armanixo]

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I actually took screenshots of his old website where he explained how he used to pimp out woman with his camming company, where most his employees werent even paid. they were forced to give him all his earnings. He would tell them you're my girlfriend, and since youre dating me and sex work is cheating you have to give me all your money. It's manipulation.

 

[Shadowcat]

By the way, I just not some hours ago saw a video with him smacking a woman with a belt but this was clearly mutual BDSM roleplay, I think a lot of this is possibly misinterpreted.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1283688/watch-the-video-that-made-big-brother-bosses-throw-andrew-tate-off-the-show/

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

By the way, I just not some hours ago saw a video with him smacking a woman with a belt but this was clearly mutual BDSM roleplay, I think a lot of this is possibly misinterpreted.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1283688/watch-the-video-that-made-big-brother-bosses-throw-andrew-tate-off-the-show/

Wow, so much suffering in this video. Literally ISIL in this video hanging homosexuals from the balls and throwing them out of buildings filled with TNT... It's almost as bad as Co-Vid!!

Has anyone seen a domestic beating or true violence take place? Because I have. And it looks nothing like this.

In regards to people who might not understand, there are quite a few people who are a little bit over the top. If they watch this they will laugh at this, as this is like almost clearly consensual. The story writes too the woman admitted it later.

As this is also from 2016, all this leaves me with is that there was nothing and no charges to press whatsoever, and the MSM again had to dig up some stupid shit to keep the masses occupied on "wife beating" stories.

I have had the misfortune to have been exposed to victims of real domestic violence and in many poor people had to leave the scenes without teeth, broken limbs etc.

 

[Shadowcat]

By the way, I just not some hours ago saw a video with him smacking a woman with a belt but this was clearly mutual BDSM roleplay, I think a lot of this is possibly misinterpreted.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1283688/watch-the-video-that-made-big-brother-bosses-throw-andrew-tate-off-the-show/

Wow, so much suffering in this video. Literally ISIL in this video hanging homosexuals from the balls and throwing them out of buildings filled with TNT... It's almost as bad as Co-Vid!!

Has anyone seen a domestic beating or true violence take place? Because I have. And it looks nothing like this.

In regards to people who might not understand, there are quite a few people who are a little bit over the top. If they watch this they will laugh at this, as this is like almost clearly consensual. The story writes too the woman admitted it later.

As this is also from 2016, all this leaves me with is that there was nothing and no charges to press whatsoever, and the MSM again had to dig up some stupid shit to keep the masses occupied on "wife beating" stories.

I have had the misfortune to have been exposed to victims of real domestic violence and in many poor people had to leave the scenes without teeth, broken limbs etc.

Indeed. There are a great many women who enjoy BDSM, men as well for that matter, as far as either sadism or masochistic roles. it is pretty obvious that the dynamic in this video is quite mutual :lol:

I have had dudes come up to me in that past wanting to be my bitches...I'm like uh nooooo its ok LOL.

 

[Ramses]

I agree with you. But right now, the times are quite difficult, because the enemy is literally waiting on the corner for every decent personality that might arise.

The post has many points in it, and as readers read it, they will read about actual underlying problems in society rather than merely "Andrew Tate". The situation is that this has went viral, and it was worthwhile of a post.

Of course, the same people who claim it was not necessary to post, are the same who instantly pressed on it. This shows how stupid this whole situation has went with them.

Relax I'm not having a go at you or anything many in Australia while we might like say example a famous person's music or perhaps a TV show we don't treat them like gods or anything a lot of famous people like coming to Australia because we don't hassle them with endless autographs and chase them around like idiots they can enjoy their time here in peace so I'm just saying I don't get hyped or offended or affected by the news or slander or anything like that people will make up their own minds.

You are not required to defend your post and I can see the points you are trying to make I think what some of the community is just trying to say to you is that you don't have to re hash this we are aware enough to come to this place it is likely then that we are aware of a lot of society's issues or the disagreements we have in its operation as it is currently.

I'd rather have a discussion about philosophical ideas in regard to how we would run the world when we get in charge of it so we don't have issues being spoken about by idiots like Andrew Tate instead some actual intelligent people like you or I and the rest of the community can discuss about government types policies etc to prevent such folly in the future.

I know that we would likely adopt the Nazis policies and many of their policies are good but there is always room for improvement.

 

[Achatina Prisma]

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I don't intend to be rude, but I noticed you wrote a reply to my comment, but deleted it afterwards. Why?

 

[Veritá_666]

Indeed. There are a great many women who enjoy BDSM, men as well for that matter, as far as either sadism or masochistic roles. it is pretty obvious that the dynamic in this video is quite mutual :lol:

I have had dudes come up to me in that past wanting to be my bitches...I'm like uh nooooo its ok LOL.

Is this to be considered an oppurtunity?

There are many people who like to be humiliated, whipped, spat on, etc.
And most are willing to pay, not to mention money slaves who basically just pay.

It might be an idea, but I am dubious about mistreating men and women for money, what do you think (referring to others as well)?

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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I don't intend to be rude, but I noticed you wrote a reply to my comment, but deleted it afterwards. Why?

I tried deleting solitary replies to include them in larger replies that contain replies towards 2 or 3 people. So I deleted a few and included them in one post.

This reply said nothing as far as I recall compared yo what was said to other replies so it was not necessary.

 

[Achatina Prisma]

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I don't intend to be rude, but I noticed you wrote a reply to my comment, but deleted it afterwards. Why?

I tried deleting solitary replies to include them in larger replies that contain replies towards 2 or 3 people. So I deleted a few and included them in one post.

This reply said nothing as far as I recall compared yo what was said to other replies so it was not necessary.

Alright, that's understandable. I happened to see your reply in time and appreciated it, but I agree that it wasn't anything out of the ordinary. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I think you are either being impersonated or someone is pretending to be you.

Not sure what kind of time waste people are doing again on well known enemy places, but yeah.

It probably is Fanboy / BigCheese6million / Grandfitzpoobah666. Mad that I never allowed him to be a successful infiltrator on all his fake accounts.

It must mean I'm doing something right or good.

 

[FancyMancy]

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Your OP here is the first I knew about a random dude called Andrew Tate.

Perhaps I should read your OP carefully. I just don't get why this post was done. The post about Andrew of Gab made sense, since he said this, she said that, we hate this, they hate that, etc., to try and clear some things up, but this one about this random kickboxer social media influencer? Whoooosh - straight over my head.

Actually this dude right now is far more trending for one month than any of the giant influencers. They are going to be interviewed on Fox News too. It has become some sort of persecution like the one of Anglin and "Nazis", they just had to make up another person for public execution this time around to justify their usual "virtue signalling".

I'm not certain about this Anglin either, but jesus - where have I been?

they just had to make up another person for public execution this time around to justify their usual "virtue signalling".

Of that, I have absolutely no doubt. As for (((them))) pretending to be decent, by "executing" someone in this fashion - you could say that this is precisely the exact same things as what used to happen way back when when people thought that a big, fat, hairy faerie tale story book character watched them from beyond the skies. You know what I mean - burning at the stake, etc... These days, that's illegal, but in some places people are still hanged, so the Yehubor has to kidnap Children in secret on "special" holidays instead; openly, it is shit 'public execution' - the pen is mightier than the sword. While people used to gather for witch-burnings and some for watching someone in the electric chair, and I presume still do for public hangings, this is a 'gathering' online and in the j/news, for many more to see.Also regarding the pretence of (((them))) being decent - surely more and more people are disagreeing with that virtue signalling and are 'waking up', as it were, so the virtue signalling is working less and less now.

 

[EnkiUK]

Need to check him out HPHC


Thanks bro.


Hope all good mate.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

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Actually this dude right now is far more trending for one month than any of the giant influencers. They are going to be interviewed on Fox News too. It has become some sort of persecution like the one of Anglin and "Nazis", they just had to make up another person for public execution this time around to justify their usual "virtue signalling".

I'm not certain about this Anglin either, but jesus - where have I been?

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The Anglin issue is what was occurring likewise on the subject many years ago. The persecution of an edgy comedian and they said similar things and so on.

The people who write sometimes "What is the important subject" or the "Trending subject" really need to get an RSS news feed going with proper news in it, both mainstream and non mainstream. If someone lives under a rock then nothing matters besides the rock.

In this case the global social media, youtube, TikTok and all of this bullshit have this situation going viral, which made it into the MSM. In the United States this is going even in Fox News and so on. It's a trending topic basically.

 

[Ursa Minor]

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The people who write sometimes "What is the important subject" or the "Trending subject" really need to get an RSS news feed going with proper news in it, both mainstream and non mainstream. If someone lives under a rock then nothing matters besides the rock.
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What if JoS forums had an RSS feed for the clergy articles? A simple copy-paste of the first post into the feed is all that would be needed to update it and notify everyone subscribed to the feed, might be great for unregistered lurkers.