Christian psychology

[BaşKaraVic]

Hello everyone, I hope are all good.
I'm preparing to write a story. I also want to touch upon how dark and depressing Christians can be to the human spirit. But the problem is I always an outsider so I just watched people get harmed, never be one of them. So I need someone who was all into it, had experienced this depression and feelings. I do not want make this up, I need real stories. I want to share feelings and I do want to show the harm of Christianity does to human psychology with my story.
Thank you.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

The cognitive dissonance between the idea of being born deserving of eternal torture or the moment I made my first white lie or stole a cookie, unless if I believe in a “God” that murdered infants really messed me up emotionally. I was an avid bible reader even as a teenager and a kid. No one made me, I was just deeply interested in religion and was raised xian.

What really made me quit it all was predestination, that “God” already decided who’s going where, that was the point along with all the above that I was learning simultaneously where I went fuck it, I can’t believe this crap. And the whole “sacrifice” thing was a scam too, jesus in the story sacrificed absolutely nothing.

The core virtue in xianity is blind obedience, that was the case in the Eden story and a xian is meant to do whatever “God” tells them to do, how you figured out “God” told you to do it is never explained. Paul just said it was all about “faith”, faith is what made Abraham almost kill his son. In other words, be as gullible as possible.

It doesn’t matter if maybe that dream where “God” said to kill your kid was just your head or some low level garbage entity, just blindly believe and blindly execute whatever you’re told as long as it has the “God” stamp to it. Ignore your logic, moral compass and all that is in you, things God gave you in the first place, for some crap a bunch of people wrote.


It’s Borg mentality. Nothing matters besides what “God” tells you to do. “God” could tell you to rape, steal and kill, and it would be virtuous, even if he said earlier not to do that, because the logic of Divine Command Theory is fucked. Fuck your inner soul morals, if God says kill kids you kill kids. Nothing that Israel is doing right now goes against the Old Testament. Xians who condemn what is going on because of all the children being killed should read the OT. Those who stay xian after that have no right to talk against Israeli behaviour.

But then again fundamentalists have about the same level of empathy as your average IDF child killer in Gaza. The two disagree on which r a b b i to follow and if the promised mass-genociding Messiah has arrived yet or will return, and if that Messiah is God himself or not, and if only judaists or only xians get to be spared from slaughter and torture.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Xians who condemn what is going on because of all the children being killed should read the OT. Those who stay xian after that have no right to talk against Israeli behaviour.

If you want to get really technical about all this, a xian could say that because it’s the “new covenant”, genocide isn’t commanded by God anymore. All those genocides in the OT was just punishment for what the people back then were doing, which was just believing in other Gods, and even if we assumed they were sacrificing infants to Baal let’s say, what’s the fucking moral logic in then commanding the deaths of all their children because they were sacrificing their children?

It’s like busting a child trafficking ring and then shooting all the children there too. What in the fuck?

And then there’s that story where “God” made David’s infant suffer a week and die because David engaged in murder and adultery. “God” really likes to kill kids apparently, it’s his first resort in the Bible most often.

GOD, the real one, would never say this. It’s that simple. Anyone who seriously believes he would is already in Tartarus/“hell”, they just don’t know it yet.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

If you want to get really technical about all this, a xian could say that because it’s the “new covenant”, genocide isn’t commanded by God anymore. All those genocides in the OT was just punishment for what the people back then were doing, which was just believing in other Gods, and even if we assumed they were sacrificing infants to Baal let’s say, what’s the fucking moral logic in then commanding the deaths of all their children because they were sacrificing their children?

It’s like busting a child trafficking ring and then shooting all the children there too. What in the fuck?

And then there’s that story where “God” made David’s infant suffer a week and die because David engaged in murder and adultery. “God” really likes to kill kids apparently, it’s his first resort in the Bible most often.

GOD, the real one, would never say this. It’s that simple. Anyone who seriously believes he would is already in Tartarus/“hell”, they just don’t know it yet.

The real disagreement a consistent xian would have with Israel’s genocidal behaviour isn’t moral but theological. If they were to be honest to themselves and others, they would have to admit that they just believe “God” didn’t tell the Israelis to commit mass genocide this time around, not that mass genocide is evil itself.

It’s not what you’re doing, it’s who’s telling you to do it. This is not a moral framework I or anyone with half a soul could follow.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Hello everyone, I hope are all good.
I'm preparing to write a story. I also want to touch upon how dark and depressing Christians can be to the human spirit. But the problem is I always an outsider so I just watched people get harmed, never be one of them. So I need someone who was all into it, had experienced this depression and feelings. I do not want make this up, I need real stories. I want to share feelings and I do want to show the harm of Christianity does to human psychology with my story.
Thank you.

If one takes Christianity verbatim and attempts to apply it to the letter, from all the guilt tripping, fasting, kagoim and severance from God, one is left an empty dead shell that only parrots bible verses. One is effectively a borderline living dead slave if they practice Christianity to the fullest extent.

For that reason, Christians have to be ultra hypocritical and selective about their faith, it's nothing you can survive if you truly follow; they won't do the fasts, they won't do the self hate, they will try to build confidence regardless on if the program demands total obedience, they will try to exist overall. They will re-frame the Christianity mentally and emotionally to look at least a bit normal, only because their mind cannot cognitively take the load that one believes in something so self destructive.

The volition of existence is to want to exist. Christianity if applied truly, is a death program for the individual person.

As a "Christian" your tasks are mainly 3:

1. Diminish yourself entirely, physically and in general
2. Give birth to slaves for Israel, do it's wars, ensure they take holy land etc etc
3. Applaud Israel in everything it does

All the above in cycle is continuous until you perish.

 

[BaşKaraVic]

The cognitive dissonance between the idea of being born deserving of eternal torture or the moment I made my first white lie or stole a cookie, unless if I believe in a “God” that murdered infants really messed me up emotionally. I was an avid bible reader even as a teenager and a kid. No one made me, I was just deeply interested in religion and was raised xian.

What really made me quit it all was predestination, that “God” already decided who’s going where, that was the point along with all the above that I was learning simultaneously where I went fuck it, I can’t believe this crap. And the whole “sacrifice” thing was a scam too, jesus in the story sacrificed absolutely nothing.

The core virtue in xianity is blind obedience, that was the case in the Eden story and a xian is meant to do whatever “God” tells them to do, how you figured out “God” told you to do it is never explained. Paul just said it was all about “faith”, faith is what made Abraham almost kill his son. In other words, be as gullible as possible.

It doesn’t matter if maybe that dream where “God” said to kill your kid was just your head or some low level garbage entity, just blindly believe and blindly execute whatever you’re told as long as it has the “God” stamp to it. Ignore your logic, moral compass and all that is in you, things God gave you in the first place, for some crap a bunch of people wrote.


It’s Borg mentality. Nothing matters besides what “God” tells you to do. “God” could tell you to rape, steal and kill, and it would be virtuous, even if he said earlier not to do that, because the logic of Divine Command Theory is fucked. Fuck your inner soul morals, if God says kill kids you kill kids. Nothing that Israel is doing right now goes against the Old Testament. Xians who condemn what is going on because of all the children being killed should read the OT. Those who stay xian after that have no right to talk against Israeli behaviour.

But then again fundamentalists have about the same level of empathy as your average IDF child killer in Gaza. The two disagree on which r a b b i to follow and if the promised mass-genociding Messiah has arrived yet or will return, and if that Messiah is God himself or not, and if only judaists or only xians get to be spared from slaughter and torture.

It must be hard to listen your own good while you were filled by idea of '' deserving eternal torture from born''. You were born a sinner, but doing bad things in God's name makes you seem like you're turning away from evil—what a paradox.

 

[BaşKaraVic]

If you want to get really technical about all this, a xian could say that because it’s the “new covenant”, genocide isn’t commanded by God anymore. All those genocides in the OT was just punishment for what the people back then were doing, which was just believing in other Gods, and even if we assumed they were sacrificing infants to Baal let’s say, what’s the fucking moral logic in then commanding the deaths of all their children because they were sacrificing their children?

It’s like busting a child trafficking ring and then shooting all the children there too. What in the fuck?

And then there’s that story where “God” made David’s infant suffer a week and die because David engaged in murder and adultery. “God” really likes to kill kids apparently, it’s his first resort in the Bible most often.

GOD, the real one, would never say this. It’s that simple. Anyone who seriously believes he would is already in Tartarus/“hell”, they just don’t know it yet.

I was not know that there is too much topic about ''killing babies'' in bible. Do Christians ever read bible??

 

[BaşKaraVic]

If one takes Christianity verbatim and attempts to apply it to the letter, from all the guilt tripping, fasting, kagoim and severance from God, one is left an empty dead shell that only parrots bible verses. One is effectively a borderline living dead slave if they practice Christianity to the fullest extent.

For that reason, Christians have to be ultra hypocritical and selective about their faith, it's nothing you can survive if you truly follow; they won't do the fasts, they won't do the self hate, they will try to build confidence regardless on if the program demands total obedience, they will try to exist overall. They will re-frame the Christianity mentally and emotionally to look at least a bit normal, only because their mind cannot cognitively take the load that one believes in something so self destructive.

The volition of existence is to want to exist. Christianity if applied truly, is a death program for the individual person.

As a "Christian" your tasks are mainly 3:

1. Diminish yourself entirely, physically and in general
2. Give birth to slaves for Israel, do it's wars, ensure they take holy land etc etc
3. Applaud Israel in everything it does

All the above in cycle is continuous until you perish.

If I were to consider a woman forced to grow up in such a structure; From the day you are born, your existence is cursed.
You have to live, but at the same time, you are despicable for existing.
Being a woman is a sin in itself.
Having many children is a duty.
You are preparing your children to die in war.

It is absolute slavery.

 

[Thundrx12]

My parents sent me to a Catholic school for a couple of grades and I grew up in an area where this church was the center of the community. Every prominent person went to this church and everyone who didn’t was basically seen as an inferior

One of my earliest memories as a young child was my mom listening to some rock cd. I began crying, covering my ears, and telling her it was evil and “demonic”

I remember always thinking my mom was demon possessed

I began hating my family

I developed weird anxiety and ocd behavior at a very young age. In elementary I told my teacher my eyes were falling out or my ears were bleeding. I had to touch things a certain amount of times or “demons” were going to attack my family.

I clearly remember developing two thought forms in my head. One was evil and would give me compulsive thoughts like tell me to do something awful. While the second one would fight him and make him go away. They where brothers

I became very superstitious, anxious, and compulsive very young

It wasn’t just me developing these odd behaviors. Many of the kids involved with this church developed similar traits

I remember a kid telling me on the bus that there was a demon inside the emergency light talking to him. We would make these things up in our heads.

It wasn’t a game or “just being kids” like this shit would actually torment us. It was debilitating at times

I basically started heavily drinking. I had no idea how to deal with the issues I had and everyone around me was retarded. At the age of 12 I received my first underage consumption. This was a trend among many of us in the area


As I tried to straighten my life out as an adult, some of these beliefs stuck for a while. Music was demonic, tv was demonic, my family was demonic, sports were demonic, foods were demonic. Everything had spells in them. I began to hate everything. Even my own friends and family

The music at work heavily bothered me. I was always worried it would influence my thought patterns and possess me with some kind of evil spirit

I obviously know now that yes there are some systems being used against us to “influence” our thought patterns and influence society as a whole. Propaganda does indeed exist. But calling it “demonic” was just so false. And a harmful way to approach such matters

Funny enough I seen a clip recently of a Catholic priest telling people sugar is an entry for “demonic” forces. They try to say these beliefs are “fringe” yet here is a person of authority saying this to millions of viewers. The same kind of things they told me as a kindergartner…

They told me in first grade that my pencil pouch was demonic because it had a tv show on it. Then made me black it out. Imagine telling a 6 year old this shit


I remember so many times I would begin to break free. I would try meditating and such to fix myself. I often found peace in nature. It’s the only place I ever felt the presence of a God

I would eventually go online to research meditation and all I seemed to come across was christians telling me it’s evil.

They would say to never meditate because evil entities will begin attacking you through your mind. Saying things like “They want you to clear your mind so they can brain wash you”

There was really no such thing as these dark forces from what I experienced. I experienced the exact opposite. But hey who wants to take the chance of becoming insane and ruin their life (as if I wasn’t already insane at the time)

This was the same type of teaching the Catholic Church would tell us in grade school. When my mind was in its most receptive phase. Hmm who is doing the brain washing here?


It got to the point I couldn’t watch a movie with my wife. I couldn’t listen to music. I couldn’t wear clothes with a design. Even a simple beat was forbidden as most of them came from “African voodoo drums” lmao

Anything that actually brought a sense of peace to my life was somehow evil according to them

Eventually I said screw it. I'm going to keep meditating, keep observing nature, and keep doing what brings me peace. That’s how I broke free. It took years of work. But I finally denounced all of the falsehoods of the past and found truth.

I realized every weird thought was a creation of my own imagination.

I am far past this point in my life. But this is what I had to deal with and correct in myself for many years. Just because my parents didn’t want to send me to public school and be looked down upon

 

[BaşKaraVic]

My parents sent me to a Catholic school for a couple of grades and I grew up in an area where this church was the center of the community. Every prominent person went to this church and everyone who didn’t was basically seen as an inferior

One of my earliest memories as a young child was my mom listening to some rock cd. I began crying, covering my ears, and telling her it was evil and “demonic”

I remember always thinking my mom was demon possessed

I began hating my family

I developed weird anxiety and ocd behavior at a very young age. In elementary I told my teacher my eyes were falling out or my ears were bleeding. I had to touch things a certain amount of times or “demons” were going to attack my family.

I clearly remember developing two thought forms in my head. One was evil and would give me compulsive thoughts like tell me to do something awful. While the second one would fight him and make him go away. They where brothers

I became very superstitious, anxious, and compulsive very young

It wasn’t just me developing these odd behaviors. Many of the kids involved with this church developed similar traits

I remember a kid telling me on the bus that there was a demon inside the emergency light talking to him. We would make these things up in our heads.

It wasn’t a game or “just being kids” like this shit would actually torment us. It was debilitating at times

I basically started heavily drinking. I had no idea how to deal with the issues I had and everyone around me was retarded. At the age of 12 I received my first underage consumption. This was a trend among many of us in the area


As I tried to straighten my life out as an adult, some of these beliefs stuck for a while. Music was demonic, tv was demonic, my family was demonic, sports were demonic, foods were demonic. Everything had spells in them. I began to hate everything. Even my own friends and family

The music at work heavily bothered me. I was always worried it would influence my thought patterns and possess me with some kind of evil spirit

I obviously know now that yes there are some systems being used against us to “influence” our thought patterns and influence society as a whole. Propaganda does indeed exist. But calling it “demonic” was just so false. And a harmful way to approach such matters

Funny enough I seen a clip recently of a Catholic priest telling people sugar is an entry for “demonic” forces. They try to say these beliefs are “fringe” yet here is a person of authority saying this to millions of viewers. The same kind of things they told me as a kindergartner…

They told me in first grade that my pencil pouch was demonic because it had a tv show on it. Then made me black it out. Imagine telling a 6 year old this shit


I remember so many times I would begin to break free. I would try meditating and such to fix myself. I often found peace in nature. It’s the only place I ever felt the presence of a God

I would eventually go online to research meditation and all I seemed to come across was christians telling me it’s evil.

They would say to never meditate because evil entities will begin attacking you through your mind. Saying things like “They want you to clear your mind so they can brain wash you”

There was really no such thing as these dark forces from what I experienced. I experienced the exact opposite. But hey who wants to take the chance of becoming insane and ruin their life (as if I wasn’t already insane at the time)

This was the same type of teaching the Catholic Church would tell us in grade school. When my mind was in its most receptive phase. Hmm who is doing the brain washing here?


It got to the point I couldn’t watch a movie with my wife. I couldn’t listen to music. I couldn’t wear clothes with a design. Even a simple beat was forbidden as most of them came from “African voodoo drums” lmao

Anything that actually brought a sense of peace to my life was somehow evil according to them

Eventually I said screw it. I'm going to keep meditating, keep observing nature, and keep doing what brings me peace. That’s how I broke free. It took years of work. But I finally denounced all of the falsehoods of the past and found truth.

I realized every weird thought was a creation of my own imagination.

I am far past this point in my life. But this is what I had to deal with and correct in myself for many years. Just because my parents didn’t want to send me to public school and be looked down upon

It's just... damn... It happened just because your parents did not want to be ostracized by society. The culture of the neighborhood we live in plays a bigger role than we realize. I am just glad that you are good rn. Happy for you.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I was not know that there is too much topic about ''killing babies'' in bible. Do Christians ever read bible??

Most don’t.

Those who do will usually try to say it was figurative language, or it was “necessary”, or it was good cause “God said so”.

The bible though is very clear. Complete genocide of the Caananites. Historically however that’s not what happened. The biblical genocidal accounts in Joshua are revisionist propaganda. The hebrews themselves are caananites. Hebrew originally meant “from Canaan”, that’s what the Egyptians referred to the people who came from that region.

What really happened in Canaan/Israel was a successful attempt at religious reform from polytheism to monotheism, something that failed in Egypt with Atenism. This then got tied to the ethnic tribes there and they formed into what we call JUICE today. The history was then re-writern as the Israelites been outsiders who invaded Canaan and replaced the natives living there.

They were the natives themselves, as are the Palestinians but they became Arabised. Caananites who never became JUICE stayed living there and simply became xians, muslims or other minor abrahamic faiths which I won’t get into.

Today however there is a real attempt at ethnic cleansing from the more religious aspects of Israel, who believe only yehuborim and noahides (only acceptable kind of Gentile in judaism, who are subordinate to JUICE) belong in Israel.

I don’t think this attempt will succeed. Israel is already 51% Arab if you include the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs, and JUICE themselves are very divided into various political, religious and ethnic groups.

The way things are going in the US, the Israeli lobby’s days are numbered. Soon claiming support for Israel will become political suicide in elections, especially if the Israeli government doubles down on the atrocities.

However, tying all this to xians, there is very little difference in the morals of a xian, judaist or muslim. All who try to follow these religions truly will become yehubor. The morals are focused on blind obedience without any logic or morals to it.

God told you not to eat pork? No real reason for this? Doesn’t matter, it’s “impure” cause God says it doesn’t eat its food the right way. Now all animals are clean though cause Jesus’ death made them clean or whatever. Oh nevermind Jesus never died and it took God 600 years to correct this with the Qur’an.

It’s all so absurd.