What makes a person Third Gender

[darkmonkey666]

Is it just being gay or bisexual or something spiritual. I know this has been talked about but I am having trouble understanding this. Also is there such a thing as a fourth or fifth or even more genders. I was reading that some ancient religions apparently believed this. Which gender am I personally from what you know about this or can I just identify as 5th gender or whatever. I'd like some clarification on this. I am white male bisexual with only a feeling more for women cause this was pushed on me probably I can be equally attracted to both.

I would like help getting over the feeling of a hang up for being attracted to the same gender or at my own gender what is a good meditation for this. I love who I am but I don't quite feel comfortable in human terms or fully here. I don't know how to describe it. I would like to be fully present and here but yeah this was something people made fun of me or I thought they would when I was younger so that's the hang up.

This is all a hang up. I know what I feel is probably messed up but I am unsure how to go forewards in this. I grew up in a strongly xtian home.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Genders are two by nature. Male and Female.

There is also a rarity that happens biologically that is called a Hermaphrodite which falls between the two. This is not a mental state of belief, but a verifiable biological condition. This is biological and you are born with this. It is not opinion based. Some do classify as a the third gender in itself.

You are what you said you are. White male bisexual. That's it. Nothing bad with it. All good.

The rest is just BS entitlements and dancing around words for zero meaning but to feel special. The point lies not in renaming youself and complex norms, just personal self acceptance.

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

Its stated in the ancient texts depending on what element is dominate at conception this causes such. In the case of the Third nature its the ether element that dominates. This also relates to dealing with soul groups and the fact many people are not Heterosexual or Homosexual.

 

[TimberWolf]

The most logical explanation for homo-/transsexuality would be gender switching upon reincarnation.

 

[FancyMancy]

The most logical explanation for homo-/transsexuality would be gender switching upon reincarnation.

You're always a male or female.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The most logical explanation for homo-/transsexuality would be gender switching upon reincarnation.

You're always a male or female.

Yea the sex of the person can't ever possibly switch to the other one. That never happens. Your body and soul are the same thing, and your sex is one of the absolute deepest things about the structure of you. Whatever sex you are, you have been forever and will be forever. What actually happens that makes people feel more like the opposite sex is astrological alignments that fill the soul with energies related to that other sex. So a man with a lot of female energies, or a woman with a lot of male energies. Maybe feels for them like they have more energies of that opposite sex than the one their body is. But they are always the same sex they have always been. We all need both energies anyway so it's not really a bad thing.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I am sorry guys I think something happened to my account darkmonkey666. I cannot log into it anymore I am using the password I always had but it says its wrong and it wont send a reset email to my address.

If you guys got any strange attempted posts in my account they are not me. I believe my other phone was not secure and I had a lot of experiences that tell me someone had access to it somehow my password was saved on that phone so this is how this happened. I do not know who the individual messing with that phone was They could even type stuff in my texts and apparently send it. What was typed was nonsensical stuff though that makes no sense.

There was then this person who emailed me and claimed to have my photos and knew stuff about my living situation and what my dad did for a living etc

All that info was on my other phone. They were doing this to try and scare me I hope the newer ones are more secure. I wonder if I could report this person because he was threatening me I should not keep conversations going with the enemy I realize that now I should have ignored them. This strange stuff with my phone only started when I recieved the email. So he or she did something to gain access to my phone.

The only reason I kept this up was I believe in freedom of speech and it made me mad this person keeps saying I will die if I dont leave Satanism or take down my channel on youtube. I guess its a waste of my time to talk to people like that and stuff like what happened to my phone can happen.

I have bought a new phone and will no longer be using that one for anything.

I do like this user name cause it goes along with the usernames I often use on other websites when doing spiritual warfare online. I dont need the other account but I for awhile will remind people of my old user name. I dont know if I can get my account back if they changed email to it as well.

Just wanted to let you guys know what happened.

I am going to change password to all my accounts I guess.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I am not sure my other post went through or it wasnt approved (Mods if you didnt see it yet you dont have to approve it I think this post is better explaining things) but rest assured I am trying hard to overcome all enemy and xtian like hang ups. I done 3 to 4 full freeing the sould workings on this so far and other workings on things related to this.

Thanks for the posts to this I dont personally think the idea of gender fluid is of the enemy maybe the term is but not the idea in the way I am referring to it. I mean its my goal to be myself and accept myself and my gender but not follow unneeded expectations. In astrology I do have some more feminine placements that would hard if I were to try to conform to my gender in the way society expects it.

I never did conform to the way a guy is supposed to act because I could not even if I wanted to its not my nature I am actually more nice than most people not agressive pushy. I am more agressive in an intellectual and spiritual way. If people wrong me its not like I always do nothing I love to use my mind play psychological and or spiritual warfare. I can even act with over agression in this way and destroy someone who did little bad to me. I feel my mind is my strength I never cared for physical confrontation but bring it on mental wise. This is not like most guys people say I am very intelligent that is my strength and why I have always felt alone except a few times why I love my Capricorn friend who understands me some what so much (for those who remember my posts the last year) and talk about her so much cause well most dont even try to understand me.

So far as my sexuality I too have aspects that indicate I have a strong sex drive I think about sex a lot. I just dont go for it in a materialistic way. I know what animalistic sex drive is I felt it for both genders at one point but the thing is most people dont know how to do this. I like playful fun carefree a certain style thats what gets it for me.

I feel a lot better tonight I am slowly overcoming this. It used to be like I dont like my gender that much strangly not the other one either I had a hang up at being human sigh. If you know what I mean. I felt it debased my soul with the way most people act.

Hope this helps you understand what I am saying I want a real person to love deeply not just sexuality.

 

[Gearshift]

Many people think they are bi due to centuries and lifetimes of repressed sexuality, so now everyone is going crazy trying to fuck anyone in sight. People, both men and women, need to have a healthy sexual outlet. Have as much sex as you need, with the suitable partner/s you need, and get over past hangups and repression.

What if your not sexually repressed in any way due to the life you grew up i.e. thinking about sex since about 3-5 years old. As Darkmonkey666(Slyscorpion) stating a very sexual person but in my case because I never experienced it, it just soured me and created some negative viewpoints. I'll admit for someone like me I do have a fear of opening up my mouth and asking for sexual activities due to a number of issues.

I'm aware many will state just go out there and whatnot. I'll admit I'm a very sexual person and my astrological chart does state it, Mars/Saturn/Pluto and being a Pluto in Scorpio person, you can see it pops up. It's funny perhaps I'm exaggerating but my mind(mental is very horny) but sometimes I'm not desiring it physically. My mind dominates a lot so mentally yes I desire it but perhaps my soul and the physical aren't wanting it. I feel disconnected between the three sectors.

But for someone who can't seem to find a way to get any with a partner. How would it help me if you can be specific?

(Yes I can readily admit my mind has delved into negatives of sex and it almost makes me a disgrace to be a Satanist. Having very xtianistic thoughts. In fact it made me feel like I'm a xtian and not a Satanist. I have tried to limit the negative thoughts and feelings but I always have it there due to my lack of experience. It's like a person told me I grew up skipping over phases of life that are normal activities for others in their past.)

(Aside from not experiencing a relationship. I'll admit and yes I have read the search before in Health A-F section, that a virile member size doesn't really matter much unless it's medically a problem. Though to paint it colorfully: I went through puberty and the one area you expect to grow never grew. So what if you got hangups regarding not just size wise but performance wise. I've never had sex but from masturbating I can quickly get myself off in a very short period of time. Under 20-25 seconds, almost like if I'm at full mast, it doesn't take much stimulation to get me off)

(And I'll admit the lack of sexual experience or even the lack of at least communicating with a woman in that way has soured my confidence. Like I said I never had the confidence fucked into me. Plus my fantasies, desires, kinks, and fetishes haven't been delved into and it just makes me feel awful.)

(And yes I'm doing a 216 Munka working with the anti-karmic relationship like the JoS version on Munka page. Just in case since April for 90 days till about June or so if I'm not mistaken.)

 

[Jack]

I am not sure my other post went through or it wasnt approved (Mods if you didnt see it yet you dont have to approve it I think this post is better explaining things) but rest assured I am trying hard to overcome all enemy and xtian like hang ups. I done 3 to 4 full freeing the sould workings on this so far and other workings on things related to this.

Thanks for the posts to this I dont personally think the idea of gender fluid is of the enemy maybe the term is but not the idea in the way I am referring to it. I mean its my goal to be myself and accept myself and my gender but not follow unneeded expectations. In astrology I do have some more feminine placements that would hard if I were to try to conform to my gender in the way society expects it.

I never did conform to the way a guy is supposed to act because I could not even if I wanted to its not my nature I am actually more nice than most people not agressive pushy. I am more agressive in an intellectual and spiritual way. If people wrong me its not like I always do nothing I love to use my mind play psychological and or spiritual warfare. I can even act with over agression in this way and destroy someone who did little bad to me. I feel my mind is my strength I never cared for physical confrontation but bring it on mental wise. This is not like most guys people say I am very intelligent that is my strength and why I have always felt alone except a few times why I love my Capricorn friend who understands me some what so much (for those who remember my posts the last year) and talk about her so much cause well most dont even try to understand me.

So far as my sexuality I too have aspects that indicate I have a strong sex drive I think about sex a lot. I just dont go for it in a materialistic way. I know what animalistic sex drive is I felt it for both genders at one point but the thing is most people dont know how to do this. I like playful fun carefree a certain style thats what gets it for me.

I feel a lot better tonight I am slowly overcoming this. It used to be like I dont like my gender that much strangly not the other one either I had a hang up at being human sigh. If you know what I mean. I felt it debased my soul with the way most people act.

Hope this helps you understand what I am saying I want a real person to love deeply not just sexuality.

You might also start a love spell for the perfect partner while going out and searching for cute girls and the spell will direct you towards that particular girl who you will have connection and animalistic sexual tension with. There are dates for a Venus square but it won't stay for long so check the calendar for your area.

 

[Taol]

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They dont look deeply into the meaning of life or realize there is much more to sex than just The materialistic act with no meaning.

Sounds like you're mostly just longing for normal happy relationships with people, not necessarily dealing with sex.
...
And to be honest, I think most people here want that .

However, I remember reading something about that to some people relationships need to be intimate, emotionally or whatever too.
This in itself can be problematic..

Question.. have you ever known what it feels like to know what your friend or partner is feeling 24/7 ?
...
In regards to that, I have one thing to say. The person you should be that close with.. you have to be able to trust them with your life.

Yeah I do know this with my friend I sometimes talk about on here. She is quite advanced even more so than me right now.

I kind of know what shes thinking and her experiences as does she with me. Its not a negative experience though cause just about anyone who is not enemy and advanced is going to be a lot more kind and helpful.

She is the exception though most people its very shallow where as often we are talking about energy and concepts and things. They just talk about superficial trends or mundane things. I dont know how to say it I want all my relationships to be like that. We are kind of in the same boat I was just talking about this with her not long ago most people are just empty and bring people down. They will turn on you in a moment.

So yeah I know what a more healthy relationship is but unfortunately only one person I know knows how to do that.

I wanted to have more than one person to talk to though and shes not Zevism so there is a lot of stuff I dont bring up with her I respect her though as do the Gods she sometimes sees them and they get rid of the evil things around her. We both want friends if you can say something on here to solve this you will not only be helping me. I know its sad if not for this I may have been gone by now to suicidal feelings even now I still feel alone. So does this individual.

I actually wanted to be a part of a community to have a whole bunch of friends but every time I try to I get taken advantage of or not understood with exceptions like the above.

So yeah I experienced a healthy relationship and I still feel completely alone.

I see.

To be honest, I do not want to talk about that stuff with everyone either, simply because it gets borderline new agey and sometimes you're just not having a ton of experiences for quite some time.

As for friction with other people, aside from non shared interests, there can be aspects that cause this, or even just bad placements in your own natal chart.

Something to solve the problems regarding friendship? Hm.. I heard a few things about Hypersensitivity the other day. The descriptions are very close to being an empath, taking on the feelings of different places and such.
It can very well be that there are communities out there that have people with this stuff that stick together.
As for other places to meet people.. do you know about the 'outside of school activities' ? That could be visiting a free yoga class, in example.
If you really want friends in the real world, find them through shared interests. You may not agree with everyone on everything (I don't either) but that doesn't mean that you have to shove them aside entirely. That means that you need to accept them for some part, and some you just shouldn't (in example getting drunk every weekend or day and stoners being stoned out of their mind way too much.. aka potheads). Make your choices wisely.

Also, do you think she's not a good candidate to be Zevism then? It has been suggested before that to bring certain people to Zevism that you could drop an anonymous message to them with the link in there or something..

I know this may sound harsh.. but in the world you are alone. You need to be able to carry yourself as far you can, and sometimes, yes you do need outside help. But first and foremost you stand on your own two legs.
As for the 'taken advantage of' or something with the (friend)ships.. maybe you should do a freeing the soul regarding these issues, then do a working to attract good people into your life.

.. I do not have a lot of friends.. never had in fact, not in this lifetime at least, and sometimes I do miss talking to people a bit longer. However, I do try to do things that I find joy in.
And I do like to spend some time alone, plus that you can do a lot of stuff that you want to do without anyone interfering or being a problem.
Sending an email just to talk sometimes also helps to not feel so super lonely.

By the way, I like your new account name much better than your old one.

 

[Taol]

I wanted to have more than one person to talk to though and shes not Zevism so there is a lot of stuff I dont bring up with her I respect her though as do the Gods she sometimes sees them and they get rid of the evil things around her. We both want friends if you can say something on here to solve this you will not only be helping me. I know its sad if not for this I may have been gone by now to suicidal feelings even now I still feel alone. So does this individual.

I actually wanted to be a part of a community to have a whole bunch of friends but every time I try to I get taken advantage of or not understood with exceptions like the above.

So yeah I experienced a healthy relationship and I still feel completely alone.

...

I was thinking, in regards to the suicidal feelings.. why do you have them?

I can't give exactly a reason as why to or give proper suggestions.. though..

If it has to do with lack of self esteem or confidence, work on that. If you still live at home, you could in example take up some household tasks, to learn responsibility for yourself and feel a bit confident in the things that you have learned and accomplished.
If you already have to do those, or this does not apply to you, then maybe look into things like martial arts.
Doing something you like can ease the negative feeling that you're having.
(Also meditating can help in increasing confidence along with working on the solar chakra).

As for the issues.. you could just silence your mind as in void meditation, then go into a slight trance and let the issues that are on your mind drift up and deal with them accordingly. Write them down, burn it, whatever works for you. If turning on the sound loud and singing along with some songs helps you, then do that.

Just remember if you do the above or a negative feeling comes free from the problem that you need to do aura cleaning. It is a must.
Negative feelings can increase the suicidal feelings and problems around you. You must not let it manifest into actual something.

When working with the mind, kicking out things that hurt, can also change your mindset. In case you have a negative thought (and Im sure you already know this) do void, then make a neutral or positive thought after.

As for feelings of not being wanted, being useless or whatever.. or when people insult you again..
You are you. You are allowed to be here.. If people don't like it.. Then that is their problem, not yours. Wrong words hurt. They can make or break things..
Even if people try their best but fuck up for some reason, then is it their right to just burn you into the ground like an useless twat or whatever you want to call it? No it isn't.

Also, read the page on Fighting Back, if you haven't.

And the last.. a piece of advice that has been given to me.. be kind to yourself. Always be kind to yourself. Treasure yourself. Love yourself (not like the I am in love with myself I am the most beautiful stare in the mirror type lol). Speak positive to yourself and give yourself compliments if need be if you did something that worked out well.
You are worthy of being here.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Sounds like you're mostly just longing for normal happy relationships with people, not necessarily dealing with sex.
...
And to be honest, I think most people here want that .

However, I remember reading something about that to some people relationships need to be intimate, emotionally or whatever too.
This in itself can be problematic..

Question.. have you ever known what it feels like to know what your friend or partner is feeling 24/7 ?
...
In regards to that, I have one thing to say. The person you should be that close with.. you have to be able to trust them with your life.

Yeah I do know this with my friend I sometimes talk about on here. She is quite advanced even more so than me right now.

I kind of know what shes thinking and her experiences as does she with me. Its not a negative experience though cause just about anyone who is not enemy and advanced is going to be a lot more kind and helpful.

She is the exception though most people its very shallow where as often we are talking about energy and concepts and things. They just talk about superficial trends or mundane things. I dont know how to say it I want all my relationships to be like that. We are kind of in the same boat I was just talking about this with her not long ago most people are just empty and bring people down. They will turn on you in a moment.

So yeah I know what a more healthy relationship is but unfortunately only one person I know knows how to do that.

I wanted to have more than one person to talk to though and shes not Zevism so there is a lot of stuff I dont bring up with her I respect her though as do the Gods she sometimes sees them and they get rid of the evil things around her. We both want friends if you can say something on here to solve this you will not only be helping me. I know its sad if not for this I may have been gone by now to suicidal feelings even now I still feel alone. So does this individual.

I actually wanted to be a part of a community to have a whole bunch of friends but every time I try to I get taken advantage of or not understood with exceptions like the above.

So yeah I experienced a healthy relationship and I still feel completely alone.

I see.

To be honest, I do not want to talk about that stuff with everyone either, simply because it gets borderline new agey and sometimes you're just not having a ton of experiences for quite some time.

As for friction with other people, aside from non shared interests, there can be aspects that cause this, or even just bad placements in your own natal chart.

Something to solve the problems regarding friendship? Hm.. I heard a few things about Hypersensitivity the other day. The descriptions are very close to being an empath, taking on the feelings of different places and such.
It can very well be that there are communities out there that have people with this stuff that stick together.
As for other places to meet people.. do you know about the 'outside of school activities' ? That could be visiting a free yoga class, in example.
If you really want friends in the real world, find them through shared interests. You may not agree with everyone on everything (I don't either) but that doesn't mean that you have to shove them aside entirely. That means that you need to accept them for some part, and some you just shouldn't (in example getting drunk every weekend or day and stoners being stoned out of their mind way too much.. aka potheads). Make your choices wisely.

Also, do you think she's not a good candidate to be Zevism then? It has been suggested before that to bring certain people to Zevism that you could drop an anonymous message to them with the link in there or something..

I know this may sound harsh.. but in the world you are alone. You need to be able to carry yourself as far you can, and sometimes, yes you do need outside help. But first and foremost you stand on your own two legs.
As for the 'taken advantage of' or something with the (friend)ships.. maybe you should do a freeing the soul regarding these issues, then do a working to attract good people into your life.

.. I do not have a lot of friends.. never had in fact, not in this lifetime at least, and sometimes I do miss talking to people a bit longer. However, I do try to do things that I find joy in.
And I do like to spend some time alone, plus that you can do a lot of stuff that you want to do without anyone interfering or being a problem.
Sending an email just to talk sometimes also helps to not feel so super lonely.

By the way, I like your new account name much better than your old one.

I would love to chat if you want on email the one I am using is [email protected] the thing is this is where I am getting all the emails from. I may have to take it off public display on my youtube channel. I am just deleting these emails now. It is not connected to my real email account or phone personal info though so ill share it.

So far as feeling suicidal I dont anymore I did at that time that is what I meant. She is a good candidate for Zevism she knows I am Zevism and we are working on other issues first. No I am pushing nothing on no one its up to her she has to get over some fears before I go into it too much with her she has very positive energy though. So yeah I have one person to talk to who is positive.

I dont know how much I am supposed to say but we have been friends in various lives since very long ago from what we both remember.

I would love to talk about this with someone if you like all I am getting is people saying I am going to die or sending stuff with hebrew on that email address. This sucks I doubt we as Satanists will for a long time be able to have any public emails chats or phone numbers or maybe even locations. The enemy can though that sucks and is unfair.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Oh I forgot to add onto here does any Satanist do synastry charts or past life astrology I have seen no place that does that. I dont want to place my or her chart on here cause I want no harm to come to either of us but I am looking for that service I dont see past life astrology anywhere. I would pay for it. Yeah id show her these reading and this would help us discuss this stuff more on whether we are absolutly right for eachother. We both strongly believe in Astrology.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I wonder how Uranus in Taurus is going to affect this and is affecting this. Uranus is my ruler and since it entered Taurus I have wanted to rebel and dress up in female clothes to make some sort of statement or buy all sorts of wierd clothes have a wierd style.

Also these issues have more come to the forefront in my life. I noticed also I am not the only one in my area that started doing this. I never saw this kind of thing before Uranus entered Taurus much.

This was not anything I even thought about till this change in energy.