Virginity

[Academic Scholar]

Why is current human culture so obsessed with virginity? And why do men like virgins?

 

[Malkom]

Why is current human culture so obsessed with virginity? And why do men like virgins?

I can't give a good answer to your first question.
As for your second, some men are more attracted to virgin women because they are inexperienced, thus have no or lower standards of what sex is supposed to be, along with a belief the woman's vagina will be tighter, thus more enjoyable. It's typically MGTOW and incel type men that want virgin women, calling any woman that isn't "used goods", going as far as calling women who have had sex just once, whores and used goods.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

Why is current human culture so obsessed with virginity? And why do men like virgins?

I don't think that human culture is so obsessed with virginity but in which way are you refering? Like virginity is a sin so i must remain a virgin or virginity is great to fuck?
Virginity i think is christian because it's a sin to have sex and its it's also related to young people.

I think they like virgins because they are more submissive like that or that they like virgins because they are young so usually young people are virgin so that's whay they like virgins because they are young.

 

[GG Allin]

Why is current human culture so obsessed with virginity? And why do men like virgins?

a virgin is the opposite of a slut (theoretically). I recently did see a video in which someone claimed in pagan times there were a election of a may queen this girl had to be a virgin (the most beautiful was chosen). she had to do something special (can´t remember) . After she did get older she found a men to marry and a new may queen was elected. the christians took this and made there nuns permanent virgins. so the best of the gentiles don´t procreate. christian girls want to be good and wait until wedding (or at least pretent). Christians see virignity as something holy. media, society is heavy christan poisoned. And islam the girl has to be virgin. it is not uncomon for them to hurt them before there "first time" so they can have a bleeding on the towel which is shown as a proof for her virginity to the weeding adience (read it like that).


Aside from this explanation:
For some to be the first is like hunting a rare dear. Others don´t like the thought someone else had allready sex with a girl.
It is rong to say most men like virgins. a virgin means work. they are shy etc. One guy told me one time why he likes a virgin:
You know you can teach her the stuff like you like it and she will think this is normal.
More experienced girls will have thear own head. But they know what to do, most likely.

Botom line is, be your self and you will find the partner that suits you.
if not, do a working .

 

[Egon]

Virgin was supposed to have a spiritual allegory to it as you can see in many sermons, but since the arrival of xtianity and sex being sinful this has gotten another connotation of "having unwed sexual relationship = sinful". My two cents on it is that since the "sexual liberation" backlash a lot of women and men went to the extreme opposite and slept with half of the people in town, so some people unconsciously tie being virgin = being a healthier/more desirable partner.

 

[Aquarius]

There's much sexual repression vibe coming from these comments.....
I think I remember that a long time ago HPS Maxine said that virginity was just a corrupted word and that virginity was how clean the soul was.

 

[StraitShot47]

I rarely see any talk about virgins nowadays.

It's all about that nofap now.

They tried to remove the sex, now they try to remove the masturbation. It's sick.

 

[Taol]

There's much sexual repression vibe coming from these comments.....
I think I remember that a long time ago HPS Maxine said that virginity was just a corrupted word and that virginity was how clean the soul was.

No what they're saying is they want a woman who has never experienced sexual pleasure or an orgasm before.

Even if they didn't have sex, but used a dildo the hymen would have been torn already and thus she wouldn't be a 'virgin' by those standards..

And I guess they also forgot that stopping yourself from orgasming or being celebate just asks for mental insanity/instability..

 

[Egon]

No what they're saying is they want a woman who has never experienced sexual pleasure or an orgasm before.

Even if they didn't have sex, but used a dildo the hymen would have been torn already and thus she wouldn't be a 'virgin' by those standards..

And I guess they also forgot that stopping yourself from orgasming or being celebate just asks for mental insanity/instability..

What you said doesn't make sense. No one, woman or man needs to lose virginity in order to masturbate and have orgasms. Poke their himens with a dildo? That sounds insane, women can use vibrators in their clits instead, external stimulation is more effective for most women, though that's besids the point of the thread.

 

[Aquarius]

There's much sexual repression vibe coming from these comments.....
I think I remember that a long time ago HPS Maxine said that virginity was just a corrupted word and that virginity was how clean the soul was.

No what they're saying is they want a woman who has never experienced sexual pleasure or an orgasm before.

Even if they didn't have sex, but used a dildo the hymen would have been torn already and thus she wouldn't be a 'virgin' by those standards..

And I guess they also forgot that stopping yourself from orgasming or being celebate just asks for mental insanity/instability..

That could itself be a form of sexual repression.

 

[Seby]

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

 

[GG Allin]

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

This is the same as asking if wimmen like chocolate or vanilla flavor?

Some wimmen like only fat men. Or smal ones. The right lid for every pot.

Just be a good guy if the wimmen is a good one.

When having your first time say it before to the girl. So she can adjust.

There is also no shame if your first time doesn´t last long. With time you should improve so both of you can have a good time.

 

[GG Allin]

Christians see virignity as something holy.

The "clean" and "pure" idea is the white (maybe White Race-related as a subliminal tool) wedding dress to signify spotlessness...which is also "heaven" - also blindingly-white and spotless, i.e. Kundalini not risen, because with a risen Kundalini, you "go to Hell" because long before raising your Kundalini you realise "heaven", in the xian nonsense, is a load of nonsense, bullshit.

Is there a related sermon ? Just curious. I never thought white color be a byword for spiritually underdeveloped. Well Black color is synonym for spiritual transformation of the soul (probably because of ether). thanks for this reply FancyMancy.

 

[Taol]

No what they're saying is they want a woman who has never experienced sexual pleasure or an orgasm before.

Even if they didn't have sex, but used a dildo the hymen would have been torn already and thus she wouldn't be a 'virgin' by those standards..

And I guess they also forgot that stopping yourself from orgasming or being celebate just asks for mental insanity/instability..

What you said doesn't make sense. No one, woman or man needs to lose virginity in order to masturbate and have orgasms. Poke their himens with a dildo? That sounds insane, women can use vibrators in their clits instead, external stimulation is more effective for most women, though that's besids the point of the thread.

*shakes head*

Egon if you are a girl that just came of age and has had her first period or so and she uses tampons, it is very likely that you'd tear the hymen slightly. It wouldn't be a big tear though, not as big as when having sex.
Same for menstrual cups.
Hymen can even be torn with fingering...

IF girls want to use a dildo then that is fine. Do whatever you want if you want to.

But what im saying is, quit making some kind of insane big issue out of it.

A man doesn't lose his "virginity" when masturbating, nor does anything get torn. So how can he prove that he is a virgin then? for all you know he's faking it.

The hymen of a woman 'tears' and there would be a little bit of blood. The insanity of the church and such was like that some women that were not virgins and that'd be afraid to be found out would take something like a sponge and fill it with blood and insert it in their vagina as to 'bleed' on their wedding night and to have some kind of 'proof' for their family when the bedsheets were stained.

I in no way associate myself with the things that i've mentioned so far on this topic.

I just typed them to show the insane ideas that are given in society today.
As such one should be wise to question these ideas and discern between 'societal standards' and 'natural human behavior'.

Not every woman is build the same so not every woman needs the same stimulation. Its not a one size fits all.

 

[Taol]

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

I'd expect a man to at least know that sex is not like 'stick it in and fuck her'. Doesn't matter if they're virgin or not.

 

[Jack]

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

I have heard about preselection ,meaning if a male is with many females, the female in question assumes that the male must be a good genetic and reproductive specimen. Since everyone else selected him so he must be a good prospect. Obviously everyone cannot be wrong ? I.e groupthink. I have no idea if this is actually true though. It could be since we used to pair in high class polygynous marriages for a long time in our history I.e before Christianity.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/women-are-more-attracted-to-men-when-other-women-like-them-2018-1

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html?amp

 

[Taol]

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

I have heard about preselection ,meaning if a male is with many females, the female in question assumes that the male must be a good genetic and reproductive specimen. Since everyone else selected him so he must be a good prospect. Obviously everyone cannot be wrong ? I.e groupthink. I have no idea if this is actually true though. It could be since we used to pair in high class polygynous marriages for a long time in our history I.e before Christianity.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/women-are-more-attracted-to-men-when-other-women-like-them-2018-1

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html?amp

I think those people have a name and theyre called players.
There is a difference between being polygamous and fucking around.
in the latter I am quite sure those people cannot or do not want be bound to someone..

could also be a result of sexual repression though.

well good examples of not havong stable lives are among the celeberties. Most of em marry and divorce constantly.

if youre looking for a mate or someone to have kids with long term this kind of behavior is a no-no. kids need a stable environment to grow up into stable capable adults.
Not so they can end up in a mental ward or get stuck with every turn they make.

 

[LightAlgur]

I don’t like to affirm your first sentence. Beautiful concept though.

The White race is going extinct. I think the best way to fix this problem is by having families. And I think the best family comes from two people falling in love at an early age and only being with each other, for the most part. When they both have sex for the first time, I think this is better for the long term and it's more special...

 

[Taol]

...

Lol your rant. I like it.

I was thinking that there would be someone that could probably say something better about it than if I were to try. And I was right. xD

The rightnquestion is: Why are we talking about virginity?

Why arn’t we talking about Chadness?

I know I brought up all those xtarded things up earlier.. but the real question SHOULD be:

"What is a healthy attitude towards relationships and sex?"

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

I didn't say so before, but I'd rather have someone experienced at this point.

As for relationship wise, that kind of person with a healthy mental attitude, non toxic behavior, non xtarded views or anything otherwise degenerate..
Is it really that hard to ask to meet someone like that? Is it really too much to ask to meet a decent person? :?

 

[Gearshift]

Indeed some dicks might be too small, but women don't have a necessary vaginal orgasm, they do have as a majority the clitoris related one. For the ones lacking sexual education maybe this worthed mentioning. No, your size DOESN'T MATTER, OR CAN BE A PROBLEM IF THE REVERSE

Another point aimed at the men who think they are 'too small', rest reassured, you are the ones that 90% of women want. Having a huge dick is always a problem for women. ALWAYS. Because those guys are behaving like barbarians, they think their size is enough BUT sex can be painful. Shortly, this sort of guys should be concerned and attentive, not the rest of you.

I've had my debate with Egon in a recent thread and I think you should leave the hate for the enemy. I began to notice your posts perhaps nearing a month now. You seem like a person with a lot of real-world experience and understanding and seem to provide a very emotional front. This isn't your first long post nor emotional post. So stands to reason you do have an emotional investment.

Anyways, what if you went through puberty and the one area you expect to grow never grew. I will admit I have delved into reading about size wise and technically as long as your not medically improper at about 9cm or less your fine. I recall watching a Mexican erotic/pornstar woman on youtube, state as long as your like 10cm your fine. For someone who is 11.25cm(4.43inches) would that be a problem?

Also for someone who is 28 years old and in no way, shape, or form ever so much as interacted sexually nor even intimately like a kiss. Well what would you say to such person? and keep the loser talk down as I don't need more ammunition to attack myself. Mind you that despite all the sexual things I've been thinking since about toddler 3-4-5 years old and spending a considerable amount of time thinking about sex during school starting in elementary. And even with that I was told "The fact you haven't had sex is considered sexual repression"; so I guess I'm sexually repressed then. I just can't seem to encounter it in real-life and always shy away or freak out. It occurred a few times to the few girls that interacted with me back in high school. Unfortunately in one case it was a race mixed situation which made me freak out. I felt bad and to this day do cause she was a really sweet person but unfortunately it was wrong. I shy'd away and freaked out and when I looked back she had a strange face like "WTF just happened".

In recent times I'll admit I have gone to reddit and sub-reddit even so much as thought of making an account and asking for assistance. But upon researching and not to sound like some sexualist expert. But sometimes people post things that make me go in "2019 these things shouldn't exist". I mean hell I recall one time in another forums about 5-8 years ago reading about a guy and her first boyfriend and she mid-20s never knowing what a condom was and was surprised such existed. I understand some people posses less knowledge but even I felt and it's not so much knowledge but intuition. I'd wager to say 7/10, people posting on reddit never even so much as sat down their partner and talked to them about their fantasy, desire, kink, or even problems. Hell they'd rather talk to strangers than talk themselves to their partner, strange.

Anyways for someone like me who doesn't go out or anything and is if that has any influence a homebody zodiac. Well what to do you do? I do live in a major city considered both sexual and sexually problematic with diseases. I'd like to avoid problems but for the life of me do need to experience life. And yes I have thought about applications and whatnot but I'm not into social media it would be out of character with my stance on social media. It's starting to become one of those necessary evil, situations when I think about it.

 

[Dahaarkan]

!!!

Girl you need to breathe and chill out a bit. His comment is pretty fedora-ble but come on :lol:

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

What did he say exactly that is so terribly wrong? I get the vibes but what is wrong or immoral about two people taking each other as a partner for life, even if this is their first? What is the problem exactly here, from people who claim open mindedness? This sort of thing is how many of our generation were born, and generations beforehand. Good or bad that is a matter or preference.

People choosing to have fewer partners or ideolizing a specific mode of relationships is not xianity. What can be stated about people who say all sorts of random stuff, are they more "Unxianized" because they basically preach things that others will consider just lunacy?

That stated, this rant of Sunrise was plain psychotic and it was deleted. Deplorable rant. Why wish him death? Why all of these words about prostitution, a topic that is totally unrelated to his words or the post?

I guess there is no why but psycho breakdown here.

Do not worry all the gates of imaginary freedom, crossing over the adobe degeneracy are open nowadays, nobody is closing them, and nobody is willing.

 

[sunrise]

What did he say exactly that is so terribly wrong? I get the vibes but what is wrong or immoral about two people taking each other as a partner for life, even if this is their first? What is the problem exactly here, from people who claim open mindedness? This sort of thing is how many of our generation were born, and generations beforehand. Good or bad that is a matter or preference.

People choosing to have fewer partners or ideolizing a specific mode of relationships is not xianity. What can be stated about people who say all sorts of random stuff, are they more "Unxianized" because they basically preach things that others will consider just lunacy?

That stated, this rant of Sunrise was plain psychotic and it was deleted. Deplorable rant. Why wish him death? Why all of these words about prostitution, a topic that is totally unrelated to his words or the post?

I guess there is no why but psycho breakdown here.

Do not worry all the gates of imaginary freedom, crossing over the adobe degeneracy are open nowadays, nobody is closing them, and nobody is willing.

There is absolutely nothing WRONG in two people being together as virgins. absolutely nothing.

What I wrong is to PROJECT your own ideal, vision upon others in a disrespectful manner.

Have you read the rest of his comment? How did he talk about the rest of the rest which I would not even mention again?

Indeed if ideally, you meet as a virgin another virgin and things go well, that's absolutely great, BUT IF IT DOESN'T? Should this become a norm or something for people to aspire?

I am in a way irrelevant to the question in discussion BUT I DO HAVE A WIDE VIEW AND I do respect people who are fundamentally different in the sexual questions. I do respect them. I genuinely respect people's choices in regards to their own sexuality. What I do disrespect is those who disrespect different views.

The guy triggered me, with that sentence of 'INSERTING HIS HAND INSIDE A WOMAN' OR SOMETHING, etc etc. Do you find this kind of thigs acceptable? Fine. Ok, let's get over the first sentence he wrote, the rest of the things he said, are they respectful to women in general?

What I meant with my RAVING was to make people think WIDE. To make people understand that life, women, sex, sexuality, prostitution, virginity, ALL THIS CONCEPTS ARE NOT SOLELY IN WHITE OR BLACK. I wanted to make people understand that even a virgin can abandon a household, and even a prostitute might become a good mother. etc etc.

My comment was a piece of art if it was deleted, too bad. Up to your judgement. I do not ultimately mind, but I think it was educative.

I do have an aggressive tone as people understand better and process better an aggressive, brutal, even vulgar tone. They will have the patience and curiosity to follow up. My intention was noble.
and ultimately I spoke his own language, gave him exactly according to what he deserved.

I do agree that my language was aggressive and vulgar. BUT THE TRUE VULGARITY STAYS IN IDEAS NOT WORDS. And what this fellow wrote was the most vulgar thing imaginable.

You defend his ideas and you will not correct him, he will stay the same. When I say that he will stay the same, I do not care about HIS OPTION REGARDING HIS OWN PERSONAL SEXUALITY. I MEAN HE WILL CONTINUE TO INSULT PEOPLE'S SEXUAL CHOICES. Which is deplorable in my opinion.

I do not feel sorry for that comment, to be honest, I don't feel to excuse myself what so ever as I have been honest, fair and just.

 

[sunrise]

...

Lol your rant. I like it.

I was thinking that there would be someone that could probably say something better about it than if I were to try. And I was right. xD

The rightnquestion is: Why are we talking about virginity?

Why arn’t we talking about Chadness?

I know I brought up all those xtarded things up earlier.. but the real question SHOULD be:

"What is a healthy attitude towards relationships and sex?"

Do women prefer virgin or experienced men?

I didn't say so before, but I'd rather have someone experienced at this point.

As for relationship wise, that kind of person with a healthy mental attitude, non toxic behavior, non xtarded views or anything otherwise degenerate..
Is it really that hard to ask to meet someone like that? Is it really too much to ask to meet a decent person? :?

Sending you a hug, sweetheart x

 

[Jack]

Indeed some dicks might be too small, but women don't have a necessary vaginal orgasm, they do have as a majority the clitoris related one. For the ones lacking sexual education maybe this worthed mentioning. No, your size DOESN'T MATTER, OR CAN BE A PROBLEM IF THE REVERSE

Another point aimed at the men who think they are 'too small', rest reassured, you are the ones that 90% of women want. Having a huge dick is always a problem for women. ALWAYS. Because those guys are behaving like barbarians, they think their size is enough BUT sex can be painful. Shortly, this sort of guys should be concerned and attentive, not the rest of you.

I've had my debate with Egon in a recent thread and I think you should leave the hate for the enemy. I began to notice your posts perhaps nearing a month now. You seem like a person with a lot of real-world experience and understanding and seem to provide a very emotional front. This isn't your first long post nor emotional post. So stands to reason you do have an emotional investment.

Anyways, what if you went through puberty and the one area you expect to grow never grew. I will admit I have delved into reading about size wise and technically as long as your not medically improper at about 9cm or less your fine. I recall watching a Mexican erotic/pornstar woman on youtube, state as long as your like 10cm your fine. For someone who is 11.25cm(4.43inches) would that be a problem?

Also for someone who is 28 years old and in no way, shape, or form ever so much as interacted sexually nor even intimately like a kiss. Well what would you say to such person? and keep the loser talk down as I don't need more ammunition to attack myself. Mind you that despite all the sexual things I've been thinking since about toddler 3-4-5 years old and spending a considerable amount of time thinking about sex during school starting in elementary. And even with that I was told "The fact you haven't had sex is considered sexual repression"; so I guess I'm sexually repressed then. I just can't seem to encounter it in real-life and always shy away or freak out. It occurred a few times to the few girls that interacted with me back in high school. Unfortunately in one case it was a race mixed situation which made me freak out. I felt bad and to this day do cause she was a really sweet person but unfortunately it was wrong. I shy'd away and freaked out and when I looked back she had a strange face like "WTF just happened".

In recent times I'll admit I have gone to reddit and sub-reddit even so much as thought of making an account and asking for assistance. But upon researching and not to sound like some sexualist expert. But sometimes people post things that make me go in "2019 these things shouldn't exist". I mean hell I recall one time in another forums about 5-8 years ago reading about a guy and her first boyfriend and she mid-20s never knowing what a condom was and was surprised such existed. I understand some people posses less knowledge but even I felt and it's not so much knowledge but intuition. I'd wager to say 7/10, people posting on reddit never even so much as sat down their partner and talked to them about their fantasy, desire, kink, or even problems. Hell they'd rather talk to strangers than talk themselves to their partner, strange.

Anyways for someone like me who doesn't go out or anything and is if that has any influence a homebody zodiac. Well what to do you do? I do live in a major city considered both sexual and sexually problematic with diseases. I'd like to avoid problems but for the life of me do need to experience life. And yes I have thought about applications and whatnot but I'm not into social media it would be out of character with my stance on social media. It's starting to become one of those necessary evil, situations when I think about it.

Wtf are you doing. Induce a sexual aura and program it with Klim to attract women. Then go out and talk to girls. Flirt with them. Tell them they're cute and sexy etc. Figure out logistics, schedule a date,go on a day two,pull and then good things can happen.