Unvaxed in Itally lose salary?

[luis]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

 

[NinRick]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

I find it laughable that companies just roll with it.

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

I can't believe that they are going that far... How the hell is this going to benefit the jwo? I know that they are desperate to push their agenda down everybody's throat, But literally taking away the jobs from people in this day of age? This smells more like suicide then anything else.

How are you taking this? Aren't you going to struggle to keep yourself fed when this happens?

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

If you don't have the green pass.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

@Aquarius
What do you think about this? Since you quit college because of the vax and focused only on working.

 

[Cfecit]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

You need to explain better because you write a partial info, please avoid spread potential fake news. What they do in 15/10 is all workers are required to show green pass to be able to work. Green pass= Vax or covid test or healed from covid within 6 months with 1 dose. These requirements are for now. They say who healed will not need to be vax with 1 dose to have green pass.

Only Medical staff are required vax to work. But I read that about some brave doctors who are exempted because you can't force a doctor to get vaccinated if he has to sign the consent, in addition to the fact that the law says "vaccines that protect others" while this vaccines are not and the certificate clearly says, that is, it's a short circuit. Other doctors are like sheep, they think vax is only solution.

 

[luis]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

You need to explain better because you write a partial info, please avoid spread potential fake news. What they do in 15/10 is all workers are required to show green pass to be able to work. Green pass= Vax or covid test or healed from covid within 6 months with 1 dose. These requirements are for now. They say who healed will not need to be vax with 1 dose to have green pass.

Only Medical staff are required vax to work. But I read that about some brave doctors who are exempted because you can't force a doctor to get vaccinated if he has to sign the consent, in addition to the fact that the law says "vaccines that protect others" while this vaccines are not and the certificate clearly says, that is, it's a short circuit. Other doctors are like sheep, they think vax is only solution.

Please tell me who has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours...? Unfortunately is not free. They are forcing you, yes there are alternatives but its not really that easy. The only way to avoid this is to work illegaly with no contract... wich is not impossible to find here in Italy but you know there are some risks involved. I'm sorry if I did not give all the informations I was in a hurry but let's be honest its not that easy.

 

[luis]

I recently heard that unvaccinated people in Italy will lose their income by 15-10-21. I could not find any articles about this, But apparently there have been many riots for this reason alone in Italy.

Are there any Italian SS that can confirm if this is true or not? If this is true wth are the Yehuborim thinking...

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

I'm not rich but I'll do tests anyway.

 

[Aquarius]

@Aquarius
What do you think about this? Since you quit college because of the vax and focused only on working.

Lucky position, the law won't influence me.

 

[luis]

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

I can't believe that they are going that far... How the hell is this going to benefit the jwo? I know that they are desperate to push their agenda down everybody's throat, But literally taking away the jobs from people in this day of age? This smells more like suicide then anything else.

How are you taking this? Aren't you going to struggle to keep yourself fed when this happens?

Where I work they litteraly said if you don't do the vaccine you cant work here... Luckily I have magic that can heal anything but unless your very rich there are not many ways to avoid this.

 

[Aquarius]

Yes, if you are not vaccinated you can't work.

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

I have about 250/300 bucks a month to freely spend, This is quite normal where i live. If i would have to spend more than half my pay check on some tests i wouldn't even be able to feed myself. Not even to mention the insane inflation going on right now.... I live in the Netherlands one of the richest countries in the world but its quite rough for anyone with a normal salary.

Just this year alone gas prices increased by 800%, Electricity prices went up by 400%, House prices went up by 200%, Food prices etc. went up by another couple percent as well.

So if we would have to buy those tests as well, A lot of people are going to struggle to survive, And besides all of this there are some severe health risks to those shitty swabs. (Corona passport is a thing over here as well, But its only needed when you want to go to a restaurant or bar r.n.)

 

[luis]

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

It really depends on how much they pay you. The job I do does not pay me a lot and I know a lot of people in my situation, I live with my parents so now its not so bad. I work more than 21 days, my free day is every monday. And on top of this is kinda a hassle to go and do the test every 48 hours.

I know a guy that works every day at a McDonald, he does not make a lot, more than me but its a very stressing job and I can't see him evey two days going to do a covid test.

You know the situation in Italy, now imagine how much time its going to take to do a test because there will be a lot of people. There is already some news about it. https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.lastampa.it/torino/2021/10/12/news/farmacie-in-preallarme-per-i-tamponi-rapidi-e-boom-di-prenotazioni-1.40801614/amp/

Its not impossible but they don't make it the easiest things in the world.

 

[luis]

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

I'm not rich but I'll do tests anyway.

I'm glad you can do it. I really explained myself like shit, sorry. I was thinking about some people who do not make a lot of money like me and some people I know, I can't see them throwing away 160/200+ euro every months for covid tests.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

I have about 250/300 bucks a month to freely spend, This is quite normal where i live. If i would have to spend more than half my pay check on some tests i wouldn't even be able to feed myself. Not even to mention the insane inflation going on right now.... I live in the Netherlands one of the richest countries in the world but its quite rough for anyone with a normal salary.

Just this year alone gas prices increased by 800%, Electricity prices went up by 400%, House prices went up by 200%, Food prices etc. went up by another couple percent as well.

So if we would have to buy those tests as well, A lot of people are going to struggle to survive, And besides all of this there are some severe health risks to those shitty swabs. (Corona passport is a thing over here as well, But its only needed when you want to go to a restaurant or bar r.n.)

Seemingly also in a spa or swimming pool? At least if they have a restaurant.

Insanity of the parliament also. We voted one way and we get some minority parties that rule the thing because they're all playing 'vriendjespolitiek'.
I wonder how much more we must take before we get civil war.

Also 'de-escalating' policies, which say they talk to the owner about a protest about moving it or doing it on certain times and such. So that the majority of the public and other businesses aren't subjected to the inconvenience.
In other words, its just swept under the rug.

And somehow we're all okay with it?


"Richest country" where? They've public said that we're to be the cash machine of europe.

With the price of a house nowadays Im really thinking about other ways of living or even leaving the country.
That or being forced to live with a couple of other people.

Not to mention the slave labor that everyone has to do nowadays. Retirement? you have to be age 67 and counting. Your pension which you've labored so hard for to earn? Sorry we only have this amount left. We paid all of it to ... and also to cover for all the loans which we've said 'oh no you don't have to pay them anymore because youre bankrupt' to southern europe (which caused a couple of banks to collapse, to be then bought up by some politicians, thousands lost their jobs. This was in 2012). Interest? Where? Here we'll only give you 0.01% . Oh you have this much money? Then you pay us.

Its not fun living here.

 

[Henu the Great]

If you don't have the green pass.

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

Realisitically, that is around 10% give or take a few percent of monthly income for most people.

In other words, huge load of money for tests.

 

[Aquarius]

Yes. I'm sorry if I wrote not all the informations. You can still not vaccinate and have the green pass if you do Covid tests every 48 hours but they are not free and nobody has the money to do a covid test every 48 hours... So this alternative is useless unless you are rich or it becomes free tomorrow.

Rich....
Not counting the weekend days you have 21 work days, divided by two(48 hours) is 10.5, which is 165 euros every month to get covid tests.
If a single worker doesn't have 165 euros a month to spend then the situation is pretty bad for him.

Realisitically, that is around 10% give or take a few percent of monthly income for most people.

In other words, huge load of money for tests.

That's for sure, I'm not saying it's acceptable, but it's better than a vaccine and that's for sure.

 

[luis]

@Aquarius
What do you think about this? Since you quit college because of the vax and focused only on working.

Lucky position, the law won't influence me.

This is good and this is what every Satanist should try to have but there many different situations. Either way magic can help a lot to heal or to avoid this.

 

[Schwarze Sonne]

Smart working does not exempt from the green pass

This is the quintessence of craziness.

 

[luis]

This is how you avoid vaccine mandates at work: https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/107096999643543978

Well in Italy is different. Its the government forcing all the workers to do it. They could not care less if all the workers stopped working tomorrow, actually its probably what they want, the enemy does not want Italy to live. Its a good video anyway, it shows there is still some freedom left in the US.

 

[Henu the Great]

This is how you avoid vaccine mandates at work: https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/107096999643543978

Well in Italy is different. Its the government forcing all the workers to do it. They could not care less if all the workers stopped working tomorrow, actually its probably what they want, the enemy does not want Italy to live. Its a good video anyway, it shows there is still some freedom left in the US.

Say what? So it's not government mandating vaccines in the US, but? States? It comes from top down, no?

 

[luis]

This is how you avoid vaccine mandates at work: https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/107096999643543978

Well in Italy is different. Its the government forcing all the workers to do it. They could not care less if all the workers stopped working tomorrow, actually its probably what they want, the enemy does not want Italy to live. Its a good video anyway, it shows there is still some freedom left in the US.

Say what? So it's not government mandating vaccines in the US, but? States? It comes from top down, no?

Yes but if they still have that much power to stop it then there must be a bit more freedom. I have seen here people not caring about the vaccine and litteraly they told them that they can be homeless for all they care. The government does not really care, at best I have see here companies giving covid test for free for their worker.

Sorry its difficult for me to fully explain myself in not my native language and I think Mercury retrograde is not helping.

What I'm trying to say is that it seems to me from some videos I have seen that the workers and in general companies/corporations seems to have more power to stop this in the US than here in Italy.

In the US as far as I know they just require you tondo the vaccine but here in Italy you litteraly have to show them a QR code that shows you have the vaccine/covid test to work and do other things, its definitely more complicated. I Hope I explained myself well.

 

[Henu the Great]

Well in Italy is different. Its the government forcing all the workers to do it. They could not care less if all the workers stopped working tomorrow, actually its probably what they want, the enemy does not want Italy to live. Its a good video anyway, it shows there is still some freedom left in the US.

Say what? So it's not government mandating vaccines in the US, but? States? It comes from top down, no?

Yes but if they still have that much power to stop it then there must be a bit more freedom. I have seen here people not caring about the vaccine and litteraly they told them that they can be homeless for all they care. The government does not really care, at best I have see here companies giving covid test for free for their worker.

Sorry its difficult for me to fully explain myself in not my native language and I think Mercury retrograde is not helping.

What I'm trying to say is that it seems to me from some videos I have seen that the workers and in general companies/corporations seems to have more power to stop this in the US than here in Italy.

In the US as far as I know they just require you tondo the vaccine but here in Italy you litteraly have to show them a QR code that shows you have the vaccine/covid test to work and do other things, its definitely more complicated. I Hope I explained myself well.

The vaccine passport becomes a non issue when enough people say no to the whole scheme. Because it is just that, a scheme of massive porpotions. Nothing more.

What I posted would apply everywhere, no matter what the powers that be mandate, because when there is no support, then there is no support.

Unfortunately, reality of the situation is that humanity at large needs to be slapped in the face very painfully to wake up. Thus, we have to go through of these measures even though it could be technically avoided by large enough amount of people just saying no.

 

[luis]

Say what? So it's not government mandating vaccines in the US, but? States? It comes from top down, no?

Yes but if they still have that much power to stop it then there must be a bit more freedom. I have seen here people not caring about the vaccine and litteraly they told them that they can be homeless for all they care. The government does not really care, at best I have see here companies giving covid test for free for their worker.

Sorry its difficult for me to fully explain myself in not my native language and I think Mercury retrograde is not helping.

What I'm trying to say is that it seems to me from some videos I have seen that the workers and in general companies/corporations seems to have more power to stop this in the US than here in Italy.

In the US as far as I know they just require you tondo the vaccine but here in Italy you litteraly have to show them a QR code that shows you have the vaccine/covid test to work and do other things, its definitely more complicated. I Hope I explained myself well.

The vaccine passport becomes a non issue when enough people say no to the whole scheme. Because it is just that, a scheme of massive porpotions. Nothing more.

What I posted would apply everywhere, no matter what the powers that be mandate, because when there is no support, then there is no support.

Unfortunately, reality of the situation is that humanity at large needs to be slapped in the face very painfully to wake up. Thus, we have to go through of these measures even though it could be technically avoided by large enough amount of people just saying no.

I guess you are right. I just think right now the government would try everything to make sure we do as they say. Right now you can't work if you don't do as they say and this is enough to make people do the vaccine.

 

[Stormblood]

If anyone forces you to show a green pass, it is actually illegal under data protection law. Medical records are privileged information in every first-world country and nobody can force you to provide them in order to grant you access somewhere. A green pass is a medical record. You can threaten to sue them, and should actually do it together with everyone who doesn't want to use green pass. Class-action lawsuits should be less expensive, more so if you have legal professionals on your side who may even undertake these pro bono.

There's a million way these as well as human rights can be spun in court to grant you victory. It has been done in Italy and other countries, and it will keep happening as there are different approaches interpreting law. Judges should be lobbied too.

Also, it is kinda laughable they make you pay for tests. Here, lateral flow tests are completely free and you can do them at home. I would still advise against doing them because they contain harmful stuff.