jrvan said:
Yes, we should absolutely encourage Black folk to not shoot each other and whatnot. No disagreement there (although I'm still a little confused as to how this relates to anyone on the forums here, and how it is relevant to what was being discussed). Put people on the right path in life if their minds aren't too far gone from what the yehuborim did to them.
We should also work to take back the reigns of our own civilization from the yehuborim so we can create the Zevist world in which all humans can freely follow their Dharmic destiny instead of being brought to lower levels of Samsaric existence by yehuborim. This is what we are doing now.
hailourtruegod said:
Jrvan, the last two responses I wrote to you I wrote at the same time. It took me a long time to write the 2nd one and I see you answered this before I finished that second message, but I was not able to see your answer at the time. This created a situation where replies are in the wrong order and it might look like they are answering to the wrong things. And I think this may have influenced how you felt when you read it.
It seems like the main problem both of you have with what I am saying is that you do not think I am directly replying to anybody. Or you can't see what people wrote here that I am directly replying to. Or saying that the things I say here are irrelevant, random, or don't make any sense, or don't personally relate to any specific person here.
Of course not everything I said in this topic was a direct reply to anything said by anyone else. Most of the things I said are not a direct reply to anybody. Am I limited to only discussing the very few specific details or ideas first shared by other people? Or may I expand to a larger and more complete view? How this affects any specific person here is that we are all living together on this planet, and we all want ourselves and our families to be safe. So increasing the safety and security of this world and decreasing violence against innocent people is directly beneficial to every person here. And I am not derailing anything from the original topic. The topic is about crimes and violence done by minority groups within the population, and that is what I have been discussing the whole time.
I am talking about a very large and wide reaching societal problem, because I am trying to work to help fix this problem. The words I quoted from Jrvan here, I agree with this absolutely and this is my intention and motivation for what I wrote here. But to seriously discuss a very wide reaching situation with many components and facets, it requires discussing what many of these larger components are. So it ends up being a large amount of details to be mentioned. But if there is any real and honest effort to help with anything, the components must all be considered. You can't repair a large machine if you don't think about what parts it contains and how they all interact, and it is the same with trying to fix anything else. Truth and awareness of the situation are always the first necessary step.
Do either of you actually want to help with anything, or do you only want to pretend? And are you both so selfish that you only will agree to try to help with something when yourself is personally affected by it? And for all the time before yourself is personally affected, nobody is allowed to mention it or try to do anything to help. I believe that both of you are good people and both of you want things to be improved for everybody, but improving the world does not happen only by wishing for it to happen. And especially not by purposeful ignorance and hiding things under the rug. I will always choose uncomfortable truth instead of comfortable ignorance.
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