Question about Umbanda entities

[dypetrod]

@egon_88_666 I forgot to mention but I have also found this post of yours when researching.

The JoS being the most trustable source for spiritual information, I've searched about Umbanda, Candomble, Yoruba and similar terms here and in the other forum as well.

And btw, this post of yours was the most complete Satanic input I have found on this matter.
And I understand what you mean by what these entities represent as concepts. However, that still did not get me to a conclusion: Are these entities (as beings) of Satan/related to Satan to some degree? Or is it possible that some of them are Goetic Demons represented with different names?
My uncle has been invoking these entities to speak through him for years now and when I was a kid they'd call me to participate and talk to these entities as well. Whenever my uncle invoked exus I'd get scared because of their heavy laughter.
Was I ever talking to trustable entities?

 

[dypetrod]

@egon_88_666 your last reply appears on my inbox addressing the forum but it doesn't appear here
But anyway, that is the conclusion I was looking for. Muito obrigado

So the bottom line is most of these entities are what we would call angels. I should have imagined by their demanding of animal sacrifice and alcohol in exchange for favors.

But what you said now about exus and orixás bringing people to spiritual satanism has got my attention. So are these entities sort of 'divided' and a few of them are at our side?
And would this 'exu Astaroth' be Astaroth herself or an individual exu, possibly under Astaroth's command?

Sorry if this is too many questions. But thanks again for providing a conclusion to my main doubt.

HAIL SATAN!!!

 

[dypetrod]

From Wikipedia:
Olorun is the name given to one of the three manifestations of the Supreme God in the Yoruba pantheon. Olorun is the owner of the heavens and is associated with the Sun. The vital energy of Olorun manifests in humans as Ashé, which is the life force that runs through all living things.[1] The Supreme God has three manifestations: Eledumare, the Creator; Olorun, ruler of the heavens; and Olofi, who is the conduit between Orún (Heaven) and Ayé (Earth).

I also read in a different source that another name for Olodumare was Zambi. Searching for Zambi on Wikipedia, the first image was of this entity in the same position as the nazarene. I can't tell whether it is meant to be like this or it is a perverted image, much like the xians have perverted the image of Satan and our Gods.

But the fact that some of the Umbanda exus ask for black chicken sacrifice and alcohol in exchange for favors doesn't give much credibility to the hypothesis that they are of Satan anyway...I am well aware that sacrifice is used mostly as an easy energy (bioelectricity) source and Satanism is about building up your own bioelectricity.

 

[dypetrod]

Oh yeah I've noticed that myself as well. Many of my messages take one whole day to go through. Today they've been going through faster though.
As for the deceased mages hypothesis, I agree as it's been said that caboclos and preto velhos are spirits of deceased indians and african slaves.
It is also said that Umbanda (as well as any other african influenced religion) has different sects and that each terreiro (yard) works in a different way, with different entities etc. So it is possible that there is infiltration of angels and greys whereas the real Umbanda entities are benevolent demons under the command of Satan's demons, or in fact the other way around as you suggested.
Searching for 'exu Astaroth' on Google, I've come across this page with a list of exus and pombagiras, claiming they are under the command of some of the Goetic Demons (including Satan/Lucifer himself):
http://mago-barao-exus-e-pombagiras.blo ... o.html?m=1

The page is in portuguese but the list can be easily interpreted.
I have no idea on how accurate this list may be, but this and other factors add more to the confusion.
In the end I guess we must go through our own experience with the demons and these entities to conclude whether they, or any entity of any apparently spiritual religion, are or not at the side of Satan.
One thing can be concluded though; if an entity demands animal sacrifice there is little chance this entity is of Satan.

 

[dypetrod]

@lion666lion66688 whoa this is sick and twisted.
Can't tell if we can blame that on the traditional Umbanda entities, on infiltrating angelic entities or if it's just these people and not even the religion's fault after all, because as we use to say, responsibility to the responsible.
But, besides homosexuality and free sexuality with due consent of all who engage in it, I'd say these sick attitudes such as pedophilia cheating etc are influenced by the enemy, be the enemy these entities or outside entities.