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Pure Lust / Sex Rune Working

Idyelle said:
Any person for who you need to do a 'ritual' is not worth the time and effort.

If you cannot:............ obtain it through honesty, true love, just asking looking in her eyes, and she just cannot wait for you to ask her and her desire is infinite, and see what is next,............ there is no point.

Just go to a night club etc, get out with 3 girls who wants to suck you all night. No efforts, rewards 100X more than this useless person on which you do a ritual...

Also you need to ask a spirit to bring this person to you. This will be done by force, then you have to tell your victim , get naked , come to my house and do me like you never did it with anyone...

Still it will be not worth it, been there, done that...
That's too much common sense.
 
NakedPluto said:
You sympathize with the enemy narrative and trust it, justify it and try to enforce it here like it is a reality and like solutions are to be implemented. 

If you feel others are treated unjustly, which in your view is something of a lot of time and a real problematic situation, you don't sympathize and exaggerate your statements to fit profiling and narratives here. 

Ignoring the fact, that, JoS is healthier than ever, stronger and more elevated with factual implementation by the direct will of the Gods, in a time where this is more and more formally known and implemented, there's the narrative that somehow this isn't the case, accusations of direct defamation is stated, as a means to complement superficial the evolutions of things,  but done by the "opposition".

As it was already stated valid arguments and observations put forth together with ill will is not so much savior archetype.

Thank you for taking back the expression off mod mafia. Given benefit of the doubt here, this is very important as to generalize your statements onto a collective and group of people while insulting them for supposedly not being better is absolutely of a different premise. 

Everyone is welcomed here, and no one said the opposite or assessed opposition to new comers, especially older members.

This whole manifestation is of those weak people who met with great friction because of their malicious actions, immaturity and straight out attacking syndrome. If one wasn't as so in the first place, one became as so. And NOT because of the truth that opposed them here, but because that's what their nature was and is. 

Feelings and comfort is met at one point here. Everyone is unique, and they represent a certain trait of the astrology zodiac, and they guide and express themselves organically to the others. One is an elitist, one is polite another blablabla. Everyone suits a need for any and all SS to synergize and help themselves. 

JoS will never be a xianized gathering and hippies welcoming with flowers and bloom. These flowers are when you meditate. Things are very sacred here, with much heaviness and with utmost importance. 

This ego leveling is so pointless, It will always deflate at death, so when you die you understand how much fucking time you wasted, and how everything is so precious in life. JoS is beyond that death, far in the future for eons of generations, of your kids of kids and more than that. 

The seriousness of the tasks and shared concern here is way beyond bob and sally not being sucked on because of their delusional fantasies. 

However, with the above stated, everyone's level of life and soul IS to be respected. As a SS if you are stupid, I respect you, but I also expect for you to be stupid less in the future. 

The collective effort of wisdom and control, aspects fatherhood and motherhood concerning the creation of a strong community here, is always improved upon and this was never so much better. There are people here who came to a good understanding of life, and that in a mature view of things, is something extremely special and honorable. 

By the design of things people expect the worst as stated in a sermon. But from expecting into acting the worst, manipulating and put it on a trophy list while behaving like a raccoon who steals some ego points is beyond laughable. 

HP. HoodedCobra stated and talked about improving communication and relations within the community. Blitzkrieg did also an amazing reply one time. People are aware, improving and not making a fuss about it and bending it in weaknesses and pushing narratives because they feel entitled of the half truth they discovered and boiled half a century ago.

And about the personal remarks you did, about people hating you. Rise you head out of the ass checks, nobody hates you, and no one will. I can certainly hate the disunity caused the situation in itself, yet I don't personally. No one hates you here, but the enemy surely does, as for all of the other people here, they are also hated. 

You are smart, argumentative, energetic. Why don't you improve and you can do great things and not just confuse people with the re-imagination of the wheel.

I don't believe there is no spite against myself personally. There is a reason anytime I try to talk about issues, or give feedback, sometimes not even in inflammatory or provocative manner, it is immediately labelled as an attack or an attempt at pushing a jewish agenda. By you as well.

If foolish statements like such are not fueled by a desire to preserve ego, then it must come from spite. I do not believe any of the people who accuse me of such to actually be stupid enough to believe what they say about me. So what's the root of this if not spite.


I'm not ignoring that things have gotten better. I've stated repeatedly it's not as bad as it used to be. But there's still work to do to eradicate this. Like in another thread I just read the thoughts of a person who celebrates and draws entertainment from watching people being dogpiled and insulted.

This is a place of learning and elevation, not a circus. People shouldn't be encouraged, or enabled to carry out their fantasies of being the Satanic gordon ramsay talking down to people who are in need of guidance and education. This needs to be obliterated and people who celebrate or encourage this abhorrent behavior need to grow up.

I'm not saying we must jump to the other extreme where we sugar coat everything, cater for total idiots and delusional individuals. But find a middle ground, find balance. There is a time and place to let your aggression flow, and when someone is simply misguided, confused or emotionally imbalanced, isn't it.


I will say it again, the "jewish narrative", basically the "us vs the off mod crew" thing, was not created by me. It's unfortunate that people who are off mod and have done great with it, now get bundled into the same negative light. I shouldn't have contributed to that and I apologize.

The quicker you establish dialogue on this, the quicker you can put it to rest and deflate this bubble that has formed. Or you can ignore it, pretend it's not there and silence any talk of it, disregarding it as exaggeration or malicious defamation. And the problem will continue to fester in the background.
 
tabby said:
Dahaarkan said:

My first time here I was labelled an alt account and had my relationship claimed to be invalid just because I stood up for my partner against an idiot who made a stab at jrvan for no reason, then covered it up as a joke. From there it was nearly non-stop “you’re a cuck” “you’re not a real man” “why you acting like an abused woman?” “swamp this swamp that” bullshit, and I was just run over because apparently girls can’t have a discussion with guys. Pretty retarded way to welcome new people.

I’m glad things have changed from then, but that was the atmosphere around here just little over half a year ago. Imagine being new, and you have to fight for breath just to exist in the forums because you’re not conforming to stereotypes. Why did that change? Jrvan and I didn’t back down about the issue and how we got treated until it finally exploded in a month long conflict under a thread that was just meant to be about sewing and had to be addressed officially.

Men vs women, my idea vs your idea, my method vs your method, established vs noobie, old vs new… Aside from the gender problems in the forums being settled and generally less levels of hostility, there’s still the rest of these duality issues that, I agree with you, would be nice if we could just discuss them.

I’m learning, jrvan’s learning, everyone’s just trying to learn and heal themselves. How are we supposed to feel comfortable here, when we’re not able to bring a different opinion to the table without recieving underhanded remarks and insults? Communication can be a barrier, worse off for those with Merc.R, but things would go much more smoothly without the deliberate attempts to twist words.

As others know, we came from a cult. There’s serious trauma from an experience like that, and to be around people who would rather see you gone and silently working on yourself instead of trying to make a difference around here or engaging with others… well, makes you feel like you’re better off alone than hanging around, dunnit?

We’re an extreme case but I’m sure there’s plenty of people coming here hoping to have a fresh start and not be subjected to repeating life patterns of mistreatment. We’re sensitive, so bloody what? People who carry wounds are going to be sensitive, and rubbing salt into them doesn’t help.

Like I said in a previous post, the issue stems from an individual who not only carried out this behavior, but due to his position tainted the whole group and made this behavior acceptable and the standard of how to treat people.

I am personally, a very stubborn and headstrong individual, and I can't be pushed away or harmed by words or statements thrown at my person. But I understand people, and how people work, how people think and how people feel. I've also been here for far longer than my post count would suggest. And although my posting activity is abysmal, I am always watching the forums and what's going on. Others will attempt to deflate the issue I'm discussing as insignificant or something of the past, but I strongly disagree.

Just because we've started being passive aggressive instead of spewing insults directly doesn't change anything.


And because of this I understand the mental and emotional state of many of the people who come here. They are desperately needing answers and support. And when they reach out their arm to someone for them to pull them back on their feet, and instead they start spitting and pissing on this person while they are down, it's normal that they will feel victimized, and will hate us and disassociate from us and everything we're a part of. And as if rubbing salt on the wound, some snob always comes up and states that since they left, they would always be worthless and not a true Satanist anyway. Victimizing someone, and then blaming the victim so they aren't held accountable for the loss of another Satanist.

It is infuriating that nobody takes responsibility for this kind of behavior. The ignorant and misguided are to be educated and elevated, not mocked or harassed for being so. We were all there at one point.


The worst cases is when people celebrate new members leaving. Like yeah cool, we have failed in our duty to elevate this person, round of applause guys. As for why people behave this way, I imagine there must be some fleeting feeling of power or status from talking down to people, and making others feel dumb or worthless. Nowadays this is mostly done in passive aggressive manner, as an attempt to go unnoticed. You can word your statements without a single direct insult, and still make someone feel insulted and mocked.

In the end people do this to feed their own egos and to feel powerful and important. Which everybody becomes infuriated when I state this fact, but there are people here who view and use the forums as a tool of inflating their ego.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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VoiceofEnki said:
Dahaarkan said:
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Dahaarkan and Tabby are right in regards to the degree of hostility that has been unduly shown to other Satanists. Hostility itself is separate from forcefulness, sternness, in that it is destructive. What is difficult is that it does not come from the inherent intentions of others, but usually as a result of frustration, or overzealous protection of Satanic tenets.

It is not always easy to create messages which are able to blend the 4 elements into a harmonious manner which still conveys the seriousness of Satanism without making the recipient feel attacked. This is why Libra is a preferred sign for Venus, because Libra is sort of like a blend of air, water, and earth.

Not all people respond as you do in regards to being treated harshly. In particular, sensitive people will feel hurt by the aggression. These sorts of people don't need to be broken down in the first place, as they are already receptive. Then only need to be told what to do, not shouted at, so to speak.

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You can tell how you should approach someone based on how they are responding to you. If they are flipping out in the thread, crying and yelling, then it is time to turn down the temperature and reassure them that you weren't trying to be mean, just serious.

What oftentimes worsens the situation is where people reply with "you are delusional" and then with nothing after it. This totally fails because it is not just overly destructive, but also it does not follow up with anything constructive for the recipient to grow with.

Of course, it does take time and effort to do these things properly, but navigating emotions and communication are not much different from the mechanical operation of physical items; it simply follows different rules. However, the principle is the same: if you aren't getting a positive outcome, then you have to change your inputs.

In the case of what a positive outcome is defined as, that would be someone who has happily accepted and is actively integrated Satanism (or whatever you are trying to teach) into their lives.

I'm glad you're a part of the first batch of Guardians. I've never seen you talking down to anybody, or displaying even the slightest level of personal spite in any of your interactions with others, even people who are frustrating to deal with. I'm sure at times you internally feel some contempt for someone, but you never let it show and that's excellent in my opinion.

I think you set a very good example. An example hopefully more will follow as we go forward.
 
I don't know what it is but people are just extremely sensitive nowadays. If dissenting opinions weren't allowed, they wouldn't be allowed. But they are.

The real problem is people being entitled to present their opinions and at the same time expect others to respect it. That's unfortunately not how the real world works. If you say something you will be open to criticism from everyone else. Just because you're afraid of confrontation doesn't mean others won't confront you.

I've been attacked ,berated and insulted throughout my life on a variety of occasions and that hasn't deterred me from speaking my mind. I was attacked by my uncle last year who was a heart surgeon on the issue of the vaccine and had a very heated debate about it. But I presented all the relevant documents to prove him wrong. He still doesn't speak to me because of that heated exchange. But I was prepared mentally to cut him out of my life to preserve my views.

The fact of the matter is that people who are looking for a perfect experience of life have to severely lower their expectations. Life doesn't go according to the way you want it to always. There are twists and turns. People disagree with you ,they provide dissenting views.

That is life. We have to deal with it.

Infact we need to train the young SS that are teenagers to become mentally prepared for real life. We need to prepare them for confrontation - when to engage ,when to deflect and when to ignore so they can manage their lives better. We need to prepare them Psychologically for a Dog eats Dog world. We need to prepare them to deflect toxic people and to attract people who are going to help you win and advance in life who aren't wasteful slobs.

One of my relatives who is extremely established and wealthy in his field was also extremely arrogant and berateful towards others at time. But I knew that if I maneuvered my way through his defenses he would teach me something. So I humbled myself before him and praised his ego because he was very boastful.

He taught me that as a young man he had struggled and came from nothing and processes and mindsets he was using. There's a mental ritual he taught me which I do everyday.

People have a very distorted view of happy and sad. They being influenced by media believe that when you have all the possessions, people and experiences in life you can then be happy. He taught me to completely change that baseline.

I have only three things I need to be happy
1)I'm not severely injured.
2)I have clothes, food and shelter.
3)I'm not enslaved to anyone else and my freedom hasn't been taken from me.

That's the state I'm always in. I go through adversity and I think to myself "I'm still well,alive and good. If I keep pushing myself forward, I'll eventually complete my goal." And that's how I'm always undisturbed by whatever is happening around me. That's how we need to teach every single SS to be .

We need them to condition them to lower their expectations about what constitutes happy and sad. We need to condition them to becoming like soldiers ,who will keep going forward no matter what happens to them. We need to condition them to process grief and loss like it's nothing. That's how we build a community of winners.

We need resourcefulness. We need strength, will and courage. We need soldiers. We need to condition these boys to be focused on the goals and be able to quickly come up with solutions to whatever adversity they face.

Everyone needs to fight. We need to struggle. We need to keep moving forward. We can't be sensitive pussies crying about everything. No opinions matter in the end of the day except those that make our lives a better place.

1)You have to acquire money and resources.
2)You have to become Competent and resourceful.
3)You need to know how to survive and build an aesthetic battle ready body at all times.
4)You need to learn how to attract and keep people similar to you ,I.e building a Social Network of winners.
5)You need to learn how to attract, retain and keep a woman who is high iq and healthy and tall ,so your kids become high iq ,tall and healthy.
6)You have to complete all of this quickly so you can really focus on your meditation.

You don't have time to focus on anything else. All of this stuff about emotions and women are solved easily when you're a successful man and you attract a compatible woman. If you can't take care of atleast 4 people financially - 1 wife and 2 kids you shouldn't even think about getting into a relationship with a woman. A Mans 20s is dedicated to building himself up to be the best man he can so he can then pick and choose from a variety of options what he sees fit. I'm not saying deny relationships with women if it comes your way but your focus needs to be on establishing yourself. The only real investment with women is kids. Women's and ours emotions change constantly. You might fall out of love with her and she might. So unless you have kids there isn't a hard foundation to stand upon. You need to have multiple kids with a woman. What matters eventually are the kids. Nothing else matters. We establish ourselves, get married, have a lot of kids, teach the kids the spiritual path so that they teach their kids ,and then you focus seriously on your meditation. That's it. Life is simple if you look at it that way.

All of this stuff about obsession and dealing with others people comes down to people having no goals ,living unremarkable lives with no drive to improve and frankly being worthless slobs. Like who cares what others think and who cares about if some bitch who left you. Stop trying to live life through the approval of others. The only things that matter is actions. If you're well on your way then nothing else matters.
 
Dahaarkan said:
NakedPluto said:
Hysterical? Other ways for this toxic behavior to exemplify yourself? I know you have the tendency to degrade everything at first sight, being a reaction of self defense, as reality is not as you want it to be.

However, you did attack the forum altogether with your extremely insulting remarks.

"The ranting and dictating rabbi behavior, holier than thou attitude is rapidly becoming the standard. I suppose we will only begin to truly address the problem when forum activity grinds to a halt" 

You have a problem with everyone and everything, with abrupt enthusiasm in which you manifest toxic behaviour and treat everything exactly as you accuse people of. You are ranting and dictating supposed problems and behavioral problems, while giving passive aggressive remarks. 

"Being the underdog" is a value you gave yourself to further pertain to people that you think are in need of your ideologies, ideas that are of neither benefit to anyone. 

All is fine, but the narrative of the mafia and other disrespecting remarks are to be stopped and put to the trash. If anyone ever would've said that to me personally, it would be the greatest insult ever. So trash this rabbinical behaviour you accuse people off. 

No one stands here to be spit insults like these in the forums. 

The forums are not just forums. This is a temple, everything is sacred. Your timing is also extremely unforgiving so as I already said, grow up.

Looking inward this may prove to be key to you. I myself think that I have looked inward more that you looked outside. Take that for a hysterical run or simply a joke.

Ignoring the literal "no u" bit, I have to say I disagree. There are certain members who have approached inexperienced people in unacceptable ways before, and I'm not talking about just recent examples, it's been happening for a long time, even long before off mod was a thing. And sometimes it still happens.

No ideology is being pushed here. I'm literally just asking that we all have more patience, restraint and respect especially for misguided people so we can keep them.


Stormblood for once is right about something that there are people who are riled up against some off mod members. To say that this was created by me, and not the years of abhorrent disrespectful behavior, and the people who were driven away by crude remarks and overly harsh and critical responses, is hilarious.

This is something I've been wanting to talk about for years. This isn't recent.

I retract the off mod mafia comment. I agree it is baity and divisive. But I still think there's a problem, albeit not as bad as it used to be. I think the worst person with this behavior has improved dramatically, I've been watching their posts and they are almost like a completely different person now and I think that's great.


I also never felt like the underdog, or said that I felt that way. Maybe you see me that way because you have some inflated sense of status?

I'll remind you again that the above wasn't directed at any specific persons, but you still feel personally insulted by it. I said already the people who have shit behavior are a small minority. So why are you attempting to twist my post as if I'm saying all off mod members are trash. Almost all of them are great, almost.

I'd encourage all of you, who clearly want to actively be a part of the forums on a daily basis, to watch the people who were selected to be Guardians, and learn from their example. And compare the way they convey themselves and their message over the years to yours.


I do not want to divide the forums or pit people against each other. I want talk. When you make these posts, desperately attempting to silence any dialogue on this, you only give ammo to the people who actually are attempting to divide the group.
You're quite right. I didn't stray from the forums for nothing. I'd rather meditate and talk to the gods than have it happen that way.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Jack said:

Of course the heart surgeon disagrees with you. Giving young children permanent myocarditis and other permanent heart damage only means more customers and more money for himself.
I was actually shocked and appalled at how compartmentalized doctors are in their field. It almost seems like mainstream science is like a religion to them and they are the high priest and they attack anyone who disagrees with them.
 
jrvan said:
Feelings are not that important. What matters is movement, expansion and action. Your feelings change every day ,with every week. If you base your life on feelings, you have failed as a Yogi. More importantly feelings cannot not be felt. No matter what you do your going to feel feelings. The only thing to master in life is to be able to process emotions correctly. Regardless of Gender one must use Reason to make decisions and not feelings. This is the difference between a wreck of a life and a successful life. You demonstrated your inability to advise anyone because you cannot rise above your feelings and thus you couldn't advise someone else to rise upon their feelings and see reason in a situation.

Love is different for everyone. No one can tell me now that you know what true love is and I don't. For example whatever Fuchs is feeling about this girl is love ,even though it's infatuation. Obsession ,Dependency ,Compassion, Compatibility everything for everyone is a form of love. Love is not Objective because it doesn't exist for everyone universally as the same. Anger is Objective because everyone feels the same feeling throughout the Human Race regardless of their circumstances. Love is an extrapolation of various emotions and feelings in a mesh that are Objective for a particular person but aren't universal. Infact while being in love ,the other person might not be experiencing the same emotions and feelings as you are. Love isn't felt the same by the same person for two different individuals. For Example - One girl is sexy and independent and spicy and doesn't listen and another is Calm ,dependent and compliant. I love both of them. But the Love I feel for both is different because they are borne out of different emotions.

And I never said you can't be vulnerable with others. Ofcourse as a matter of principle you have to be vulnerable with people who have your back and are your friends and close ones.

You can't however be sensitive. Being sensitive makes you a failure in life because you are ill equipped to take on burdens and challenges that come your way. Being too sensitive makes you paralyzed and unable to perform your best because your life is dependent upon other people's approval and disapproval.

Fragility is death. Strength is Power and Will is direction. Your life is testament to your will. There is a reason why you had to go through Rites of Passage in ancient times to ascend from the status of being a boy into a man. Because you have to kill your fragile and sensitive state and become strong. That should be true for women as well. The entire cancel culture is based upon weaponized sensitivity. While they call others "White Fragility " they cancel people because they are triggered.

You are dead inside. You have no will of your own. Your entire Philosophy and ideology comes from an extrapolation of the feelings of a victimized teenager. Which is why you prioritize feelings and emotions and which is why you will never actualize your own potential.

If I was sensitive and someone called me fat ,I would rationalize it and blame the other person for being berateful.

If I was sensitive and was called a worthless piece of trash for wasting my hours in life ,I would rationalize and blame the Bankers along with the corporations who have a lot of blame but blaming others does nothing to improve my life.

If I was sensitive and a person who came up to be and berated me constantly, I would be paralyzed and emotionally Triggered all the time to check that person or to act.

You were and are weak because you've learnt nothing in a year of meditation. You've wasted your time and your wasting time right now.

Go look at the mirror and see if you value the person standing infront of you. And then remember - You deserve this.
 
Jack said:
jrvan said:
Feelings are not that important. What matters is movement, expansion and action. Your feelings change every day ,with every week. If you base your life on feelings, you have failed as a Yogi. More importantly feelings cannot not be felt. No matter what you do your going to feel feelings. The only thing to master in life is to be able to process emotions correctly. Regardless of Gender one must use Reason to make decisions and not feelings. This is the difference between a wreck of a life and a successful life. You demonstrated your inability to advise anyone because you cannot rise above your feelings and thus you couldn't advise someone else to rise upon their feelings and see reason in a situation.

Love is different for everyone. No one can tell me now that you know what true love is and I don't. For example whatever Fuchs is feeling about this girl is love ,even though it's infatuation. Obsession ,Dependency ,Compassion, Compatibility everything for everyone is a form of love. Love is not Objective because it doesn't exist for everyone universally as the same. Anger is Objective because everyone feels the same feeling throughout the Human Race regardless of their circumstances. Love is an extrapolation of various emotions and feelings in a mesh that are Objective for a particular person but aren't universal. Infact while being in love ,the other person might not be experiencing the same emotions and feelings as you are. Love isn't felt the same by the same person for two different individuals. For Example - One girl is sexy and independent and spicy and doesn't listen and another is Calm ,dependent and compliant. I love both of them. But the Love I feel for both is different because they are borne out of different emotions.

And I never said you can't be vulnerable with others. Ofcourse as a matter of principle you have to be vulnerable with people who have your back and are your friends and close ones.

You can't however be sensitive. Being sensitive makes you a failure in life because you are ill equipped to take on burdens and challenges that come your way. Being too sensitive makes you paralyzed and unable to perform your best because your life is dependent upon other people's approval and disapproval.

Fragility is death. Strength is Power and Will is direction. Your life is testament to your will. There is a reason why you had to go through Rites of Passage in ancient times to ascend from the status of being a boy into a man. Because you have to kill your fragile and sensitive state and become strong. That should be true for women as well. The entire cancel culture is based upon weaponized sensitivity. While they call others "White Fragility " they cancel people because they are triggered.

You are dead inside. You have no will of your own. Your entire Philosophy and ideology comes from an extrapolation of the feelings of a victimized teenager. Which is why you prioritize feelings and emotions and which is why you will never actualize your own potential.

If I was sensitive and someone called me fat ,I would rationalize it and blame the other person for being berateful.

If I was sensitive and was called a worthless piece of trash for wasting my hours in life ,I would rationalize and blame the Bankers along with the corporations who have a lot of blame but blaming others does nothing to improve my life.

If I was sensitive and a person who came up to be and berated me constantly, I would be paralyzed and emotionally Triggered all the time to check that person or to act.

You were and are weak because you've learnt nothing in a year of meditation. You've wasted your time and your wasting time right now.

Go look at the mirror and see if you value the person standing infront of you. And then remember - You deserve this.
Being sensitive is not equal to being a slave to your emotions, I am sensitive, I still get shit done and don't let that affect me if anyone hurts me. Even in one of Maxine's sermons she said that when she was speaking with Satan on Duat he had tears in his eyes when describing the situation on Earth, that's being sensitive, emphatic, whatever you wanna call it. There's a difference between a sensitive individual who gets hurt and cries about it and gets nothing done and someone who gets hurt, understands and moves on.
 
Jack said:

Jack something you need to understand, but well, trying to explain anything to you is like banging my head on a wall but here we go again.

Cunts like you and me do not represent the majority. Others are more sensitive, and some are very sensitive to these things while their souls are polluted and impaired by a lack of meditation over many years.


We should at least be patient enough to give these people a chance to clean themselves, empower and strengthen themselves. It's a bit like raising children, you don't throw a kid out into the world before they are ready, before you give them a chance to mature and grow.

In the same way I think there should be restraint and some patience when dealing with people who are misguided or saying stupid shit. Simply because in their state, they are fragile and emotionally imbalanced most of the time.


I know you have the complete opposite opinion, and will bring up the 1 in a million kids who grew in abhorrent conditions and became an upstanding man in his life. But the truth is, most people don't grow from a harsh environment. A vast majority of people are broken by harshness rather than growing from it.

And sure, stubborn cunts like us can't be broken by this stuff, but others can. And it's not fair to apply the same principle to every person in the world. There's no reason why we shouldn't try to create a pleasant and welcoming atmosphere here, and have restraint.
 
Jack do you mind if I bully you a little bit?

I just think it's unbelievably precious your edgy statements on love and feelings, paired with the eren profile pic, it's just...perfect.

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Reiner...we live in a society...where love doesn't matter. Feelings don't matter. All that matters is movement. I just keep moving forward, until my enemies are destroyed.
 
Jack said:

Take a step back, Jack, and re-examine your own growth and behaviour on the forums since you've been here.
 
Jack said:
Jihiji12 said:

What exactly does energy ripping have to do with this working
Torturing someone you'd like to be in a relationship with is an alpha move. Infact it's the best way to enter into a relationship. Other advanced techniques require a basement, a bunch of chains and a ball gag.

(This is sarcasm above ^)

Here come the psychopathic vibes
 
Jack said:
Feelings are not that important.
I petition to do a GoFundMe page to raise enough money so that we can pay for Jack to have a lobotomy. WYeah, feelings aren't important - because when we're using Feelings Energies to make a working more powerful, iT'S jUsT nOt ImPoRtAnT. Cathartics ArE nOt ImPoRtAnT. The parts of our Minds and Souls - our Hearts - ArE nOt ImPoRtAnT. If feelings weren't important, we'd all be Sheldon (or Sheila, for the Girls) Coopers from the Big Bang Theory, or Spock from you-know-where. We'd all be robots and dead inside. Bleep-bloop, bloop-bleep? Such discordant tripe.

It seems like Jack is getting off on this attention here. Sitting on the computer or phone, posting crap. Instead of doing that, tell the boss at work to go... away.
 
Fuchs said:
Aquarius said:
Fuchs said:
Here is the story:

After I had to move lost 95% of my social contacts, including cutting ties to family by 90%, lived in isolation over many months du to lockdown, I used the time to finish most of the JOS German. After long lonley months, I found the girl, with which I want to spend the rest of my live with, this was also predicted from a solar return by Lydia, as a significant love interest. Everything was fine, she didn´t want to have a relationship first, but after some time she did agree to it. I have a fix star which does lead to relationships end always bad for me, Lydia did suggest to do a venus square, but I kind off did forget about it. I thought this time everything goes well, I helped her with her problems, she did help me with my problems, we did complement each other. We didn´t had one fight. At some point we spend a longer time together, du to this her friendships did suffer which she didn´t liked. I told her that´s no problem for me, we can spend less time together. At the same time her work load did increase like 400%, so I did leave her alone so she could fokus on work and meet her friends. After 2 weeks I did got a message from her that she want´s to break up with me, because she said we do not fit together in the long run. I totaly was crashed and didn´t understand the world anymore. The next day I did visit without telling her before at home, wanted to talk to her, she was mad at me because she did work 12h and now has to talk with me. I did had to take all my stuff from her place and go home. Just before venus did go retrograde I started a love working not the best date, moon in gemini. Prior to this I started the Zasitr working either moon in taurus or gemini. At home desperately, I got a call in the middle of the night supprisingly of someone, which did lead me contacting someone else this person did help me analyse the problem, that she is afraid of to close ties, got the idear to write her a letter. Did write 4 pages explaining why whe are a good couple etc. Because of this she did agree to see me again and did invite me to a party with her friends for new jear. The party was fun, but at some point her best girlfiend did talk to me, how I feel etc, I said I´m here I´m fine. After talking I walked away and suddenly did have this giant feeling of sorrow on me. I´m usually not an empathic person, but this feelings were not from me. My Girlfriend (white) was approched by a black guy, asking her if everything between them is fine and if they stay in contact, my girlfriend did reply jes. After some time a other friend of her did ask me if I´m jealous. I replyed as I was young, crazy, nowadays middle level, he walked away. During the party she was dancing with the black guy, after some time they started kissing each other, the black guy did say: not infront of your boyfriend. I was a little mad, but thought don´t make a cene (she was drunk and the party people overal were rather open people). After the party I drove her back at her place and said to her she is a good girlfriend and there is no reason why I should think otherwise, she kind of did deny this, but didn´t want to talk why she thinks she is not a good girlfriend. I stayed another day at her place. Originaly we sayed I should go home in two days. We live long away from each other. Suddenly the thought in my mind poped up, if I go, I will never see her again, my Body did start shaking, all the negative emotions thoughts did increase after 3 mins, I thought just ask her, if you can stay longer so I asked her, if it is ok if I go in 4 days. She got mad and yelled at me I can go now, because I disturb her from doing things. From feeling sorrow my mood changed to rage: I yelled at her why do you treat me like this? What have I done to you? She was a little scared of me, because she thought, I would hurt her, which I never would. After she did realise I won´t hurt her, she did grab all my stuff and I again did have to go. She did ask me to write a message when I´m home. At the moment we are in contact, she did say we can see each other, but not more. Didn´t see her since then, she was on a longer vaccation.

I can´t afford for my mental wellbeing to lose her, also I don´t want to meet a other girl from which I don´t know what the next big problem will be, that crushes the relationship (have to do that venus square)/also don´t want any other. I don´t like it, if she does racemixing, or sleep with other guys (I don´t know for sure).

Also asked my GD for guidance, how I can make her happy and get her back, my black candle flame did increase and the candle did melt rather quick, within 15 minutes the wax formed a penis like structure.

What would be your solution?
She literally kissed a black guy when you two were dating?
That would be enough to block her on any social media and never see her again.
You see, here's your problem, you have let this feeling of infatuation cloud your mind COMPLETELY, this you should not have let it happened.
Now that you post this story it's evident that you are obsessed with this girl, you want to bind her to you against her will, this is madness on your part, the feeling of infatuation has clouded any kind of logical judgement. Do you have any kind of self respect for yourself? She kissed a black guy in front of you., Do you realize that this is extremely fucked up?
You need to move on.

She is the last person who I care about and cares about me, I will just do the sex binding. If the gods punish me for this, I don´t care. I can´t just meditate, I need atleast one person close to me.

Fuck that dude, have some self respect! You are of Satan FFS. You want to do a working?? Do a general working to attract the best possible partner for you and start a venus square in April.

You are basically settling for less because you don't want to be lonely and are desperate.
 
Aquarius said:
Jack said:
jrvan said:
Feelings are not that important. What matters is movement, expansion and action. Your feelings change every day ,with every week. If you base your life on feelings, you have failed as a Yogi. More importantly feelings cannot not be felt. No matter what you do your going to feel feelings. The only thing to master in life is to be able to process emotions correctly. Regardless of Gender one must use Reason to make decisions and not feelings. This is the difference between a wreck of a life and a successful life. You demonstrated your inability to advise anyone because you cannot rise above your feelings and thus you couldn't advise someone else to rise upon their feelings and see reason in a situation.

Love is different for everyone. No one can tell me now that you know what true love is and I don't. For example whatever Fuchs is feeling about this girl is love ,even though it's infatuation. Obsession ,Dependency ,Compassion, Compatibility everything for everyone is a form of love. Love is not Objective because it doesn't exist for everyone universally as the same. Anger is Objective because everyone feels the same feeling throughout the Human Race regardless of their circumstances. Love is an extrapolation of various emotions and feelings in a mesh that are Objective for a particular person but aren't universal. Infact while being in love ,the other person might not be experiencing the same emotions and feelings as you are. Love isn't felt the same by the same person for two different individuals. For Example - One girl is sexy and independent and spicy and doesn't listen and another is Calm ,dependent and compliant. I love both of them. But the Love I feel for both is different because they are borne out of different emotions.

And I never said you can't be vulnerable with others. Ofcourse as a matter of principle you have to be vulnerable with people who have your back and are your friends and close ones.

You can't however be sensitive. Being sensitive makes you a failure in life because you are ill equipped to take on burdens and challenges that come your way. Being too sensitive makes you paralyzed and unable to perform your best because your life is dependent upon other people's approval and disapproval.

Fragility is death. Strength is Power and Will is direction. Your life is testament to your will. There is a reason why you had to go through Rites of Passage in ancient times to ascend from the status of being a boy into a man. Because you have to kill your fragile and sensitive state and become strong. That should be true for women as well. The entire cancel culture is based upon weaponized sensitivity. While they call others "White Fragility " they cancel people because they are triggered.

You are dead inside. You have no will of your own. Your entire Philosophy and ideology comes from an extrapolation of the feelings of a victimized teenager. Which is why you prioritize feelings and emotions and which is why you will never actualize your own potential.

If I was sensitive and someone called me fat ,I would rationalize it and blame the other person for being berateful.

If I was sensitive and was called a worthless piece of trash for wasting my hours in life ,I would rationalize and blame the Bankers along with the corporations who have a lot of blame but blaming others does nothing to improve my life.

If I was sensitive and a person who came up to be and berated me constantly, I would be paralyzed and emotionally Triggered all the time to check that person or to act.

You were and are weak because you've learnt nothing in a year of meditation. You've wasted your time and your wasting time right now.

Go look at the mirror and see if you value the person standing infront of you. And then remember - You deserve this.
Being sensitive is not equal to being a slave to your emotions, I am sensitive, I still get shit done and don't let that affect me if anyone hurts me. Even in one of Maxine's sermons she said that when she was speaking with Satan on Duat he had tears in his eyes when describing the situation on Earth, that's being sensitive, emphatic, whatever you wanna call it. There's a difference between a sensitive individual who gets hurt and cries about it and gets nothing done and someone who gets hurt, understands and moves on.
I'm not talking about people close to you. Ofcourse your going to be Sensitive with those people who you've placed your trust in.
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
jrvan said:
Feelings are not that important. What matters is movement, expansion and action. Your feelings change every day ,with every week. If you base your life on feelings, you have failed as a Yogi. More importantly feelings cannot not be felt. No matter what you do your going to feel feelings. The only thing to master in life is to be able to process emotions correctly. Regardless of Gender one must use Reason to make decisions and not feelings. This is the difference between a wreck of a life and a successful life. You demonstrated your inability to advise anyone because you cannot rise above your feelings and thus you couldn't advise someone else to rise upon their feelings and see reason in a situation.

Love is different for everyone. No one can tell me now that you know what true love is and I don't. For example whatever Fuchs is feeling about this girl is love ,even though it's infatuation. Obsession ,Dependency ,Compassion, Compatibility everything for everyone is a form of love. Love is not Objective because it doesn't exist for everyone universally as the same. Anger is Objective because everyone feels the same feeling throughout the Human Race regardless of their circumstances. Love is an extrapolation of various emotions and feelings in a mesh that are Objective for a particular person but aren't universal. Infact while being in love ,the other person might not be experiencing the same emotions and feelings as you are. Love isn't felt the same by the same person for two different individuals. For Example - One girl is sexy and independent and spicy and doesn't listen and another is Calm ,dependent and compliant. I love both of them. But the Love I feel for both is different because they are borne out of different emotions.

And I never said you can't be vulnerable with others. Ofcourse as a matter of principle you have to be vulnerable with people who have your back and are your friends and close ones.

You can't however be sensitive. Being sensitive makes you a failure in life because you are ill equipped to take on burdens and challenges that come your way. Being too sensitive makes you paralyzed and unable to perform your best because your life is dependent upon other people's approval and disapproval.

Fragility is death. Strength is Power and Will is direction. Your life is testament to your will. There is a reason why you had to go through Rites of Passage in ancient times to ascend from the status of being a boy into a man. Because you have to kill your fragile and sensitive state and become strong. That should be true for women as well. The entire cancel culture is based upon weaponized sensitivity. While they call others "White Fragility " they cancel people because they are triggered.

You are dead inside. You have no will of your own. Your entire Philosophy and ideology comes from an extrapolation of the feelings of a victimized teenager. Which is why you prioritize feelings and emotions and which is why you will never actualize your own potential.

If I was sensitive and someone called me fat ,I would rationalize it and blame the other person for being berateful.

If I was sensitive and was called a worthless piece of trash for wasting my hours in life ,I would rationalize and blame the Bankers along with the corporations who have a lot of blame but blaming others does nothing to improve my life.

If I was sensitive and a person who came up to be and berated me constantly, I would be paralyzed and emotionally Triggered all the time to check that person or to act.

You were and are weak because you've learnt nothing in a year of meditation. You've wasted your time and your wasting time right now.

Go look at the mirror and see if you value the person standing infront of you. And then remember - You deserve this.

You say all this, and yet you're the one getting triggered here. I'm not going to bother pointing it out to you. I feel almost embarrassed on your behalf. There's seething anger behind your words directed towards me. In fact, I felt a terrible energy directed at me shortly before I read your message, and it was disgusting. Did you pop a vein while thinking about me? Sheesh.
Yes I've been very conflicted after you called me out. Which is why I got triggered and started sending negative energies in all directions (like Freeza in DBZ). I've been tearing up after deciding to get in touch with my sensitive side too.

I woke up today crying and feeling sad about myself. My gf was cooking lunch and saw that I was crying while brushing my teeth. She asked ne what was wrong with me and I told her that I was a very sensitive 🥺 person and that the world didn't care about me. She started touching my abs and telling me "Oh your so strong you'll get over it." I then absolutely lost it with that unappreciative bitch and broke up with her then and there. A woman who doesn't appreciate a man crying Is not a "real woman". I decided to get in touch with my Strong Independent Feminist Ex and I thought she'd appreciate my crying and whining. But she told me she was in Malaysia Making money and being a "Boss Babe" and that I was a little bitch for trying to talk to her again. She made me cry again. What a sad situation.

I needed a woman like Tabby who would take me for who I am. I called in sick to work today and I told the manager "I'm going through a phase of getting in touch with my feelings. I have a lot of stuff to say to you about putting me under undue pressure. You don't put the women under that pressure you Androgynist cunt." And hung up the phone.

I realized that I deserve appreciation and understanding from the world. I went through a very rough childhood. I was part of a Far Right street gang. No one gave me money for education and I got a scholarship. It's pretty bad out here man I tell you. I deserve to rise to the top of the ranks and become the manager. I want to cry all day but society won't let me. All I wanted to do in life was get my dick wet and 😢 😭 cry my eyes out when someone rejected me. And now I have to do all this extra shit.

We Satanists need to lick 😋 each other's wounds on this forum and appreciate each other. I thank everyone for this safe space where I can be who I am without any kind of interference. I come to this forum to cry and whine about my life and then I receive words of appreciation like "You are Good enough" ," There's nothing wrong with you" "Humans are assholes. Except us." Then I feel very happy. I however come on this forum regularly because my female boss berates me for slacking off and doesn't appreciate my sensitive nature. She obviously hates herself. I wonder how her husband puts us with her. Jrvan has opened my eyes. I thank Jrvan for being a guiding light.

My next goal is to become a fat piece of trash and get perpetually triggered when someone tells me that I'm fat. Fuck them. I am good as I am. Might is Right. I'll just use magick to make them accept me for being fat. I'll use magick to convince everyone that I'm awesome. It doesn't matter what I think about myself, what matters is what others think about me.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Jack do you mind if I bully you a little bit?

I just think it's unbelievably precious your edgy statements on love and feelings, paired with the eren profile pic, it's just...perfect.

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Reiner...we live in a society...where love doesn't matter. Feelings don't matter. All that matters is movement. I just keep moving forward, until my enemies are destroyed.
I have that pasted on the side of my desk but I removed the "until I Exterminate my enemies" bit. Because that'd be too Edgy.
 
tabby said:
Jack said:

Take a step back, Jack, and re-examine your own growth and behaviour on the forums since you've been here.
I have a bunch of random pics for you too.
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And tell your husband to stop bullying me okay ? I'm going to complain to HP Hoodedcobra that one of the kids in class keeps bullying me. I don't appreciate it. I'm sick and tired of his verbal abuse. If he doesn't stop ill just use my "Might is Right" TM magick to make him like me so that we can be friends.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Jack said:

Jack something you need to understand, but well, trying to explain anything to you is like banging my head on a wall but here we go again.

Cunts like you and me do not represent the majority. Others are more sensitive, and some are very sensitive to these things while their souls are polluted and impaired by a lack of meditation over many years.


We should at least be patient enough to give these people a chance to clean themselves, empower and strengthen themselves. It's a bit like raising children, you don't throw a kid out into the world before they are ready, before you give them a chance to mature and grow.

In the same way I think there should be restraint and some patience when dealing with people who are misguided or saying stupid shit. Simply because in their state, they are fragile and emotionally imbalanced most of the time.


I know you have the complete opposite opinion, and will bring up the 1 in a million kids who grew in abhorrent conditions and became an upstanding man in his life. But the truth is, most people don't grow from a harsh environment. A vast majority of people are broken by harshness rather than growing from it.

And sure, stubborn cunts like us can't be broken by this stuff, but others can. And it's not fair to apply the same principle to every person in the world. There's no reason why we shouldn't try to create a pleasant and welcoming atmosphere here, and have restraint.
Well I guess you're right. I guess we're both born in a wrong place at a right time because there is no way I'd be born into this life if I hadn't wished for it.

I'm well beyond discomfort and harshness. I guess I wished to be born at this time to witness the end of an era in the Fourth Turning and the destruction of the World Jewry.

I believe that strong souls mold themselves into being borne into harsh circumstances at opportune times to harden themselves for tough times ahead. Because the Fourth Turning is going to need people who are hardened to the core and perform tasks competently to resurrect the destroyed world order.

I think it's the same for most of us here. I don't think the knowledge was collected all at one place before being completely wiped out by coincidence.
 
Fuchs said:
My Girlfriend (white) was approched by a black guy, asking her if everything between them is fine and if they stay in contact, my girlfriend did reply jes. After some time a other friend of her did ask me if I´m jealous. I replyed as I was young, crazy, nowadays middle level, he walked away. During the party she was dancing with the black guy, after some time they started kissing each other, the black guy did say: not infront of your boyfriend. I was a little mad,
I am the last person on this forum to give „relationship advice” and I also had hesitations to involve in this, but if I was in your place I would have walked out of that crap party instantly and cut any `emotional connections` with the said girl after seeing that, granted I previously have already taken all my belongings from her. Being drunk is not an excuse by the way because even when drunk people should still have a slight awareness and reasoning over their actions. The sight of seeing her dancing and kissing with the black guy should have enraged you enough to create a mental shock and cut these connections instantly. You clearly have an unconscious obsession with that person given that you contradict in your words by not caring about her while in the same time needing her close to you for `mental health`, well that's a toxic and unhealthy relationship right there. Is like in the Kim song made by Eminem. I also was in a similar situation when I was quite obsessed with a girl a few years ago and been thinking about her nearly non stop, I even did plenty love spells towards her but I messed them up most likely because I did not check and realize that Venus was in Scorpion back then, which nullified the spells (I was lucky they didn't backfire on me in a negative way), but since I realized that a „relationship” is not possible, I did subliminal programming on myself and eliminated these unconsciuous connections/obsessions in a matter of days (nights better said), it worked wonders. I did not feel anything anymore for her and I was thinking about her as any other random person. I think you need exactly the same because the said girl doesn't even remotely have similar obsesive connections to you as you have to her, more likely no connections or „feelings” for you at all.

You do what spells you want but as far as I can tell your mental health will not benefit on longterm from this situation, irrespective of the outcome. It will be more beneficial as I suggested to eliminate this unconscious obsession towards her that you have and then focus on attracting a partner that won't kiss a black guy in front of you, my opinion.
 
Jack said:
tabby said:
Jack said:

Take a step back, Jack, and re-examine your own growth and behaviour on the forums since you've been here.
I have a bunch of random pics for you too.
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And tell your husband to stop bullying me okay ? I'm going to complain to HP Hoodedcobra that one of the kids in class keeps bullying me. I don't appreciate it. I'm sick and tired of his verbal abuse. If he doesn't stop ill just use my "Might is Right" TM magick to make him like me so that we can be friends.


Unlike yourself Jack, I don’t reject everything that I am and mold myself into someone else’s ideas just because a few imbalanced people or those I don’t connect with can’t stand to see my tears and heart.

When we shut ourselves and our emotions down, we become angry, resentful, aggressive, and hateful, depressed, lonely and sometimes cynical. These things build up until they explode in negativity, violence, hostility, and abuse of others and/or ourselves.

I fake smile when I’m hurt so others don’t pry into my problems until I’ve been able to go through the waves of it alone. The exception being Father Satan and his Demons, and those I deeply trust.

There are many really shitty people in the world, and only a small few are going to click well with me and I with them on a partner level.

I resonate the most with the second last picture, but I still try my hardest to remember that others feel the same way. You can be happy and still feel lonely as loneliness isn’t strictly a negative or positive emotion. It’s the absence of something we need, usually a connection with another who understands you and you them, in order for loneliness to be healed.

These things you attack and mock will always remain valid, even if you personally render them “unimportant” and shameful in your own life.
 
tabby said:
Jack said:
tabby said:
Take a step back, Jack, and re-examine your own growth and behaviour on the forums since you've been here.
I have a bunch of random pics for you too.
ODMuanBn

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And tell your husband to stop bullying me okay ? I'm going to complain to HP Hoodedcobra that one of the kids in class keeps bullying me. I don't appreciate it. I'm sick and tired of his verbal abuse. If he doesn't stop ill just use my "Might is Right" TM magick to make him like me so that we can be friends.


Unlike yourself Jack, I don’t reject everything that I am and mold myself into someone else’s ideas just because a few imbalanced people or those I don’t connect with can’t stand to see my tears and heart.

When we shut ourselves and our emotions down, we become angry, resentful, aggressive, and hateful, depressed, lonely and sometimes cynical. These things build up until they explode in negativity, violence, hostility, and abuse of others and/or ourselves.

I fake smile when I’m hurt so others don’t pry into my problems until I’ve been able to go through the waves of it alone. The exception being Father Satan and his Demons, and those I deeply trust.

There are many really shitty people in the world, and only a small few are going to click well with me and I with them on a partner level.

I resonate the most with the second last picture, but I still try my hardest to remember that others feel the same way. You can be happy and still feel lonely as loneliness isn’t strictly a negative or positive emotion. It’s the absence of something we need, usually a connection with another who understands you and you them, in order for loneliness to be healed.

These things you attack and mock will always remain valid, even if you personally render them “unimportant” and shameful in your own life.
I just told you that I'm a very sensitive person and I've been crying and exploding in emotions for some time which was bottled up.

I recently remembered a memory when I was little and my class went to a picnic. I was sitting under a tree and a bunch of girls started surrounding me and one of them asked "Are you alright ? You look Sad 😔😟🙁😥😞.

I just got up and went up to the boys. Instead what was my heartfelt desire was to talk to those girls and tell them that I felt neglected at home. I just wanted to be friends with women so that I could gain the womanly love my mom never gave me. But instead I just ended up trying to FUCK them.

I realized my mistake and now I'm trying to make FEMALE friends. I like to have deep insightful conversations with FEMALES about feelings ,emotions, and other shit that I never cared about. Men have been taught to bottle up their feelings and not talk about deep subjects like this because they feel scared to open up and ve vulnerable. They have fear of abandonment in them. They don't want to open up to someone and them making fun of their problems. Men are programmed by society to be toxic.

The only safe space I have other than this forum is with my female friends. But your husband told me that he felt sorry for me even though I took his advice and cathartically released all my emotions. I felt gaslight as fuck now. Did he just make me open up so he could make fun of me ? Is that how you treat someone whose going through a self discovery journey of getting in touch with their emotions ? That's just cruel.
 
Jack said:
I just told you that I'm a very sensitive person and I've been crying and exploding in emotions for some time which was bottled up.

I recently remembered a memory when I was little and my class went to a picnic. I was sitting under a tree and a bunch of girls started surrounding me and one of them asked "Are you alright ? You look Sad 😔😟🙁😥😞.

I just got up and went up to the boys. Instead what was my heartfelt desire was to talk to those girls and tell them that I felt neglected at home. I just wanted to be friends with women so that I could gain the womanly love my mom never gave me. But instead I just ended up trying to FUCK them.

I realized my mistake and now I'm trying to make FEMALE friends. I like to have deep insightful conversations with FEMALES about feelings ,emotions, and other shit that I never cared about. Men have been taught to bottle up their feelings and not talk about deep subjects like this because they feel scared to open up and ve vulnerable. They have fear of abandonment in them. They don't want to open up to someone and them making fun of their problems. Men are programmed by society to be toxic.

The only safe space I have other than this forum is with my female friends. But your husband told me that he felt sorry for me even though I took his advice and cathartically released all my emotions. I felt gaslight as fuck now. Did he just make me open up so he could make fun of me ? Is that how you treat someone whose going through a self discovery journey of getting in touch with their emotions ? That's just cruel.

Perhaps some people think you are joking, mocking mainstream people who expressed feelings. Would you mind clarifying if you are serious or not, to prevent any misunderstandings? I think one member thought you were joking in one of your previous comments here, so if you were serious, that could be upsetting for you.

Online communications and retrograde Mercury, you know. So I just wanted to pop in to make sure all is clear.

We are a family here, even though a lot of people have conflicting personalities, we need to have each other's backs. I hope all is well with everyone here :)
 
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Jack said:
I just told you that I'm a very sensitive person and I've been crying and exploding in emotions for some time which was bottled up.

I recently remembered a memory when I was little and my class went to a picnic. I was sitting under a tree and a bunch of girls started surrounding me and one of them asked "Are you alright ? You look Sad 😔😟🙁😥😞.

I just got up and went up to the boys. Instead what was my heartfelt desire was to talk to those girls and tell them that I felt neglected at home. I just wanted to be friends with women so that I could gain the womanly love my mom never gave me. But instead I just ended up trying to FUCK them.

I realized my mistake and now I'm trying to make FEMALE friends. I like to have deep insightful conversations with FEMALES about feelings ,emotions, and other shit that I never cared about. Men have been taught to bottle up their feelings and not talk about deep subjects like this because they feel scared to open up and ve vulnerable. They have fear of abandonment in them. They don't want to open up to someone and them making fun of their problems. Men are programmed by society to be toxic.

The only safe space I have other than this forum is with my female friends. But your husband told me that he felt sorry for me even though I took his advice and cathartically released all my emotions. I felt gaslight as fuck now. Did he just make me open up so he could make fun of me ? Is that how you treat someone whose going through a self discovery journey of getting in touch with their emotions ? That's just cruel.

Perhaps some people think you are joking, mocking mainstream people who expressed feelings. Would you mind clarifying if you are serious or not, to prevent any misunderstandings? I think one member thought you were joking in one of your previous comments here, so if you were serious, that could be upsetting for you.

Online communications and retrograde Mercury, you know. So I just wanted to pop in to make sure all is clear.

We are a family here, even though a lot of people have conflicting personalities, we need to have each other's backs. I hope all is well with everyone here :)
Ofcourse I'm joking lol. Cmon now ,I get to have some fun now and then.
 

I just want to say that I always think it is strange that every time somebody is explaining themself, and is desperately wanting everybody to accept their personality for what it is, it seems like the one exception is they can never accept Jack's personality for who he is. And there is nothing even bad about him, Jack is a perfectly good person. I don't want people to misunderstand me and think I'm saying he is perfect or he is the best because I'm not saying that, but there is not a single thing bad about him. And for all that "You have to accept people" stuff you people say about others accepting you, there are people here who are extremely hypocritical about never accepting Jack.

Jack is a strong man. He has been through many physical and emotional challenges in his life that lead him to become such a strong person.
"Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times."
We are at the point in much of society of weak men making bad times. But Jack is one of the strong men. And another thing, if it was a woman who has had a lot of difficulty in her life and became strong from it the same way as Jack, everybody who is against Jack would be supporting her.

And the last thing I want to say is I saw one of you say something like "Jack has never advanced in all these years." And the person who said it has only been here for like a year and a half. I have been here a lot longer than that, and others have been here longer than me, and all of us have seen that Jack has enormously advanced himself and matured himself. Personally not liking somebody's personality has nothing to do with the advancement or goodness of that person. All of us have a different personality and we are never going to perfectly like everyone.
 
Jack said:
Dahaarkan said:
Jack said:

Jack something you need to understand, but well, trying to explain anything to you is like banging my head on a wall but here we go again.

Cunts like you and me do not represent the majority. Others are more sensitive, and some are very sensitive to these things while their souls are polluted and impaired by a lack of meditation over many years.


We should at least be patient enough to give these people a chance to clean themselves, empower and strengthen themselves. It's a bit like raising children, you don't throw a kid out into the world before they are ready, before you give them a chance to mature and grow.

In the same way I think there should be restraint and some patience when dealing with people who are misguided or saying stupid shit. Simply because in their state, they are fragile and emotionally imbalanced most of the time.


I know you have the complete opposite opinion, and will bring up the 1 in a million kids who grew in abhorrent conditions and became an upstanding man in his life. But the truth is, most people don't grow from a harsh environment. A vast majority of people are broken by harshness rather than growing from it.

And sure, stubborn cunts like us can't be broken by this stuff, but others can. And it's not fair to apply the same principle to every person in the world. There's no reason why we shouldn't try to create a pleasant and welcoming atmosphere here, and have restraint.
Well I guess you're right. I guess we're both born in a wrong place at a right time because there is no way I'd be born into this life if I hadn't wished for it.

I'm well beyond discomfort and harshness. I guess I wished to be born at this time to witness the end of an era in the Fourth Turning and the destruction of the World Jewry.

I believe that strong souls mold themselves into being borne into harsh circumstances at opportune times to harden themselves for tough times ahead. Because the Fourth Turning is going to need people who are hardened to the core and perform tasks competently to resurrect the destroyed world order.

I think it's the same for most of us here. I don't think the knowledge was collected all at one place before being completely wiped out by coincidence.

Did we just agree on something? Wow.

Anyway, I'm not saying we need to cuddle and shelter people eternally, by the way. Just...make an effort and have restraint when they are in their most fragile state, namely when starting out on this path.

Have some patience and give these people time to grow and become more thick skinned. Remember always there's immense pressure from the enemy to drive them away, we shouldn't help in doing so is all.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
"Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times."

Jack said:

What is strength though?

I personally gauge a man's "strength" as his capacity to preserve his family and his nation. Most fantasize simply about a knight in shining armor, a hero on a battlefield and whatnot. But it is far deeper than this.

Do you like riddles?


Before you stand two men.

One is physically feeble, emotionally fragile and has a weak resolve.

The other has the physique of a god, unbreakable willpower and unbeatable in a straight fight.


Which is of less value to humanity?

The right answer is the above is not enough information to make a fair judgement. Your "weak" man could be a doctor, a scientist, or even just a simple farmer. And because he is feeble and perhaps vulnerable and weak, does not devalue his contributions.


You can be the greatest soldier in the world and an unstoppable force. But without a doctor to mend your wounds, without a scientist to arm you, without a farmer to feed you, you are doomed. All men which if you internally despise, if you use your strength to crush their resolve and deem them weak and worthless, they will not support you and you simply collapse and die without their support. And likewise without YOUR protection and support, their vulnerabilities will consume them.

Not all men are warriors. Not all men are strong. But all men must serve mankind and their contributions are what matters. A feeble man who lacks all the traits of a warrior might be an invaluable asset to mankind if put in a hospital or a lab. Can even outshine a warrior in terms of contribution to mankind's survival.

Attempting to force these men to become warriors will simply break them. And this bit is for you jack. A good leader recognizes his follower's strengths and weaknesses and where to best use them. All men have a purpose, and a good leader recognizes this purpose in men and will put them in an environment where they can fulfill that purpose.


Satanists are an exception in this because at a certain point a Satanist becomes kind of like a jack of all trades. But this is a process that must be given time and patience.

Many people talk of strength as if they understand the meaning of the word. True strength is found in UNITY. Weak men and strong men, united and using their talents and skills to preserve one another. This is beyond strength, this is POWER.

A leader's sole purpose is this, to create unity in his followers. For it is from unity that he derives the POWER he needs to preserve his nation and his people.


As an answer to the above quote, I fundamentally disagree. The issue is not with the fact that weak men exist, but simply flaws in leadership across history. Men who barely have the talent to clean toilets leading entire nations is a recipe for disaster.

The most important trait of a leader is his capacity to create unity first and foremost. Followed closely by charisma and vision, things with are a requirement to creating unity.


Satan is the ultimate leader. Learn from His example, there is a reason why He specifically inspires unity among us, and serious infighting is punished severely for a reason. A few thousand dedicated Satanic souls united behind one vision and one leader has unimaginable power. Together we killed a god. And we're just warming up.

Now let us preserve this sacred unity and have patience and love for fresh Satanists who are still in the process of being reborn into this family. I know it's hard to have patience for some of the idiots that stumble into this place. But make an effort guys, pretty please?


And jack, I will make a true leader out of you someday. You must learn how to get people behind you, not turn them against you as you've done here. I know voicing your opinion loudly, and being uncaring of what anybody thinks about you and your opinion, is a fundamental trait of your being, but this is a barrier to your dream of leadership.

A good leader inspires devotion to his message and his vision. You have a tendency to turn people against you instead, this will not do. Work on that. You are a complete cunt and I want to punch you in the face often, but I can't help but like you.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
"Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times."

Jack said:

What is strength though?

I personally gauge a man's "strength" as his capacity to preserve his family and his nation. Most fantasize simply about a knight in shining armor, a hero on a battlefield and whatnot. But it is far deeper than this.

Do you like riddles?


Before you stand two men.

One is physically feeble, emotionally fragile and has a weak resolve.

The other has the physique of a god, unbreakable willpower and unbeatable in a straight fight.


Which is of less value to humanity?

The right answer is the above is not enough information to make a fair judgement. Your "weak" man could be a doctor, a scientist, or even just a simple farmer. And because he is feeble and perhaps vulnerable and weak, does not devalue his contributions.


You can be the greatest soldier in the world and an unstoppable force. But without a doctor to mend your wounds, without a scientist to arm you, without a farmer to feed you, you are doomed. All men which if you internally despise, if you use your strength to crush their resolve and deem them weak and worthless, they will not support you and you simply collapse and die without their support. And likewise without YOUR protection and support, their vulnerabilities will consume them.

Not all men are warriors. Not all men are strong. But all men must serve mankind and their contributions are what matters. A feeble man who lacks all the traits of a warrior might be an invaluable asset to mankind if put in a hospital or a lab. Can even outshine a warrior in terms of contribution to mankind's survival.

Attempting to force these men to become warriors will simply break them. And this bit is for you jack. A good leader recognizes his follower's strengths and weaknesses and where to best use them. All men have a purpose, and a good leader recognizes this purpose in men and will put them in an environment where they can fulfill that purpose.


Satanists are an exception in this because at a certain point a Satanist becomes kind of like a jack of all trades. But this is a process that must be given time and patience.

Many people talk of strength as if they understand the meaning of the word. True strength is found in UNITY. Weak men and strong men, united and using their talents and skills to preserve one another. This is beyond strength, this is POWER.

A leader's sole purpose is this, to create unity in his followers. For it is from unity that he derives the POWER he needs to preserve his nation and his people.


As an answer to the above quote, I fundamentally disagree. The issue is not with the fact that weak men exist, but simply flaws in leadership across history. Men who barely have the talent to clean toilets leading entire nations is a recipe for disaster.

The most important trait of a leader is his capacity to create unity first and foremost. Followed closely by charisma and vision, things with are a requirement to creating unity.


Satan is the ultimate leader. Learn from His example, there is a reason why He specifically inspires unity among us, and serious infighting is punished severely for a reason. A few thousand dedicated Satanic souls united behind one vision and one leader has unimaginable power. Together we killed a god. And we're just warming up.

Now let us preserve this sacred unity and have patience and love for fresh Satanists who are still in the process of being reborn into this family. I know it's hard to have patience for some of the idiots that stumble into this place. But make an effort guys, pretty please?


And jack, I will make a true leader out of you someday. You must learn how to get people behind you, not turn them against you as you've done here. I know voicing your opinion loudly, and being uncaring of what anybody thinks about you and your opinion, is a fundamental trait of your being, but this is a barrier to your dream of leadership.

A good leader inspires devotion to his message and his vision. You have a tendency to turn people against you instead, this will not do. Work on that. You are a complete cunt and I want to punch you in the face often, but I can't help but like you.

I understand what you're getting it and I don't use blunt and confrontational language that I use on the forums ,in real life.

I guess it's a blind spot I have for people who are on the path of meditation where I subconsciously view them as similar to me and so I'm not reserved in my approach.

I'm personally a very sensitive and emotional person and I've gone through a lot of changes and circumstances that have severely transformed my psyche and how I view the world around me.

A large part of it was void meditation and being able to experience emotions while not being bothered by it. Like a state of equanimity.

I have a blind spot that when I'm speaking to someone who is an SS I subconsciously think they'll take the message without being bothered by the bluntness because of a similar state of equanimity.

But I understand now that no matter how long I'm in this forum there will always be those who are not yet there or maybe they will never reach there.

It's funny how unfunny this life is that even in this space for special people not all of us are on the level playing field. In that sense it is the same as real life and nothing has changed.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
"Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times."

Jack said:

What is strength though?

Maybe the question should be "How/why do hard times make Men weak?" Hard times = strong Men = good times = weak Men = bad times. That doesn't sound like nonsense illogic to me at all...
 
Very difficult situations force men to become strong enough to overcome them. The strong men are able to do a lot of work to improve the world, or create a much easier situation for the next generation. By creating a new more free society, or by inventing new technologies that make life easier, are some examples. The next generation born into a very easy situation never have any reason to become strong or develop difficult skills because everything they require is already provided for them, which leads to these men becoming weaker. This is like the situation much of the world has been in for the past few decades. The men atrophy because they are not required to do anything. Then the weak men, they do not have the desire, or strength, or ability to work on improving the world. They would rather be entirely passive and immobile, and not interfere with anything that happens. And at the same time, there are still some strong men with very bad intentions who are working to ruin the world, and the weak passive men allow it to happen because they do nothing to try to improve the world. So the very bad intentioned strong people succeed, and they turn the world into an extremely difficult situation. Example is every communist "revolution." This is how the cycle works, and this pattern does seem very accurate to what really happens in the world.

I think that in general the Polish people seem to be very strong men, who have grown and been forced to become strong by the extremely difficult situation of being controlled by communist government. And becoming strong enough to defeat that communist government to create good times and easier situation for the next generation. And this has been very recent so they have not yet become weakened, and hopefully they will never become weakened. I think the entire problem with this cycle is the weakening of men, so if this could be prevented there would be no problems.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Very difficult situations force men to become strong enough to overcome them. The strong men are able to do a lot of work to improve the world, or create a much easier situation for the next generation. By creating a new more free society, or by inventing new technologies that make life easier, are some examples. The next generation born into a very easy situation never have any reason to become strong or develop difficult skills because everything they require is already provided for them, which leads to these men becoming weaker. This is like the situation much of the world has been in for the past few decades. The men atrophy because they are not required to do anything. Then the weak men, they do not have the desire, or strength, or ability to work on improving the world. They would rather be entirely passive and immobile, and not interfere with anything that happens. And at the same time, there are still some strong men with very bad intentions who are working to ruin the world, and the weak passive men allow it to happen because they do nothing to try to improve the world. So the very bad intentioned strong people succeed, and they turn the world into an extremely difficult situation. Example is every communist "revolution." This is how the cycle works, and this pattern does seem very accurate to what really happens in the world.

I think that in general the Polish people seem to be very strong men, who have grown and been forced to become strong by the extremely difficult situation of being controlled by communist government. And becoming strong enough to defeat that communist government to create good times and easier situation for the next generation. And this has been very recent so they have not yet become weakened, and hopefully they will never become weakened. I think the entire problem with this cycle is the weakening of men, so if this could be prevented there would be no problems.
I think if I thought about it, that I'd have thought something along these lines. As for the prevention of the weakening of Men - the eternal struggle, if you please! That's also related to infinite and eternal advancement.

This could go into philosophy, etc. - what if the reptillians and their jew creation never existed here? Would we all be lovers of the arts, which seems to be the wishful fantasy in media and stories, or would we be weak and society would fall and decay into chaos, disrepute and possibly anarchy?! Maybe that's a question and topic for another thread.
 
FancyMancy said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Very difficult situations force men to become strong enough to overcome them. The strong men are able to do a lot of work to improve the world, or create a much easier situation for the next generation. ...
I think if I thought about it, that I'd have thought something along these lines. As for the prevention of the weakening of Men - the eternal struggle, if you please! That's also related to infinite and eternal advancement.

This could go into philosophy, etc. - what if the reptillians and their jew creation never existed here? ...

This idea of struggle producing growth relates to Saturn. Any civilization free of the enemy would recognize this concept or energy and use it to actively grow, not becoming complacent. If the enemy never existed here, we would have a full understanding of Saturn and use it to catalyze us, for example, through Saturn Squares and Nauthiz.


Jack said:
I understand what you're getting it and I don't use blunt and confrontational language that I use on the forums ,in real life.

...

What you posted here seems different from your earlier post that began with feelings being unimportant. What you say here shows that your understanding is deeper than before.

What you say about people needing more Saturn energy is true, and will always be true, because of its usefulness. Just remember that, like anything, water (sensitivity) and earth (stoicism) are not mutually exclusive concepts. In regards to the usage of sensitivity, this relates not to crying your eyes out, but in the judgment of energy.

Women are lacking in the lower chakras by nature and are therefore more easily overwhelmed by negativity. Someone who falls into a depression from some words does not serve as a good example for water as a whole, just as someone who assaults another at a bar does not exemplify the fire element.

Beyond sensitivity for knowledge gain, it is useful in the procurement and maintenance of emotional relationships, shown in Venus and in the Moon. Both of these aspects of your soul work best in water signs, or signs mixed with water.

Citing those who are our betters, we see that the Gods possess both amazing endurance and energy, but also extreme sensitivity. In fact, our relationship with them is greatly strengthened by the love they show us, not just their abilities. However, they are still able to make proper decisions, not getting overwhelmed by the extreme conditions on Earth.

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In regards to this argument with Jrvan, I think it has taken so many twists and turns, and now resulting in an ugly brawl, that it should just be stopped. There is no more growth that can happen through this path, and it seems both sides are fed up with the other. Let's not forget that this conversation happened at literally the worst time (Mercury/Venus retro, warfare schedule).

Both should take solace that the other will eventually grow past their problems. These sorts of arguments, where two people's ideologies are butting, can never be expected to be resolved in a single thread, or without further evidence and growth. With that in mind, it is not worth pushing for a sort of ultimatum situation where stress raises significantly.

We need to be focused on helping those who are open to growing at this point in time. Not everyone is able to understand certain situations or obstacles at their current level. We can come back to this person later, while they continue to meditate on their own.
 
Fuchs said:
I think I have to explain more, it was a privat party only her friends, those people are very open kind of swinger people.

...

It seems like she is emotionally satisfied by you, but not so much sexually. That was the point of the penis message being displayed to you. When Venus is not in retrograde, you should use Uruz to increase your sexual qualities that are attractive to women.

Not to be rude, but she went to this black man, not you, for sexual attention. Normal human behavior means we go towards what we desire. She was already kissing him, but then when you tried to have sex with her, she refused and gave some answer. Even if what she said was true, about her sexual preferences, then she would still have sex with you, in another way, IF she wanted to.

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You should look at the synastry between you two. You may have Pluto aspects to her, creating this fixation. There may be a lacking of aspects, or Saturn aspects, resulting in a lack of sexual attraction. However, just because you have a Pluto link to her, this does not mean she is necessarily good for you.

Finding an ideal partner with magic will give you much better, happier results than spending multiple workings trying to "tape" this relationship together. If this girl is race-mixing, not paying attention to you, doesn't meditate, drinking, and so on, then how is she worth your time?

You can also use magic to find an ideal sexual partner if that is all you want, which would still be better than this situation.
This would get you a person who is compatible with you and won't abuse you, creating explosive situations.

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In regards to hypnosis and all that, that changes the subconscious to some degree, but magical workings can do the same, and do it better. Don't think that this guy who told you that, even well-intentioned, can produce better results than a Satanist.
 
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FancyMancy said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Very difficult situations force men to become strong enough to overcome them. The strong men are able to do a lot of work to improve the world, or create a much easier situation for the next generation. ...
I think if I thought about it, that I'd have thought something along these lines. As for the prevention of the weakening of Men - the eternal struggle, if you please! That's also related to infinite and eternal advancement.

This could go into philosophy, etc. - what if the reptillians and their jew creation never existed here? ...

This idea of struggle producing growth relates to Saturn. Any civilization free of the enemy would recognize this concept or energy and use it to actively grow, not becoming complacent. If the enemy never existed here, we would have a full understanding of Saturn and use it to catalyze us, for example, through Saturn Squares and Nauthiz.


Jack said:
I understand what you're getting it and I don't use blunt and confrontational language that I use on the forums ,in real life.

...

What you posted here seems different from your earlier post that began with feelings being unimportant. What you say here shows that your understanding is deeper than before.

What you say about people needing more Saturn energy is true, and will always be true, because of its usefulness. Just remember that, like anything, water (sensitivity) and earth (stoicism) are not mutually exclusive concepts. In regards to the usage of sensitivity, this relates not to crying your eyes out, but in the judgment of energy.

Women are lacking in the lower chakras by nature and are therefore more easily overwhelmed by negativity. Someone who falls into a depression from some words does not serve as a good example for water as a whole, just as someone who assaults another at a bar does not exemplify the fire element.

Beyond sensitivity for knowledge gain, it is useful in the procurement and maintenance of emotional relationships, shown in Venus and in the Moon. Both of these aspects of your soul work best in water signs, or signs mixed with water.

Citing those who are our betters, we see that the Gods possess both amazing endurance and energy, but also extreme sensitivity. In fact, our relationship with them is greatly strengthened by the love they show us, not just their abilities. However, they are still able to make proper decisions, not getting overwhelmed by the extreme conditions on Earth.

------------------

In regards to this argument with Jrvan, I think it has taken so many twists and turns, and now resulting in an ugly brawl, that it should just be stopped. There is no more growth that can happen through this path, and it seems both sides are fed up with the other. Let's not forget that this conversation happened at literally the worst time (Mercury/Venus retro, warfare schedule).

Both should take solace that the other will eventually grow past their problems. These sorts of arguments, where two people's ideologies are butting, can never be expected to be resolved in a single thread, or without further evidence and growth. With that in mind, it is not worth pushing for a sort of ultimatum situation where stress raises significantly.

We need to be focused on helping those who are open to growing at this point in time. Not everyone is able to understand certain situations or obstacles at their current level. We can come back to this person later, while they continue to meditate on their own.
In life we have very few things in our control and Feelings are not within the realm of control of our Conscious Will (Icha / Purusha). Feelings are borne out of Prakriti (Nature). In that sense ,compared to the most important thing in our lives - our conscious will it is not that important. And since most of our psyche is influenced by Astrology, it is something that would come up without our knowledge.

For Example - Say hypothetically I have bad Venus and Pluto placements and I'm going through life ,right and Im also very Emotional and sensitive. I go out with my girlfriend out to eat and I see a guy with a Lamborghini and a girl who is much more beautiful than my girlfriend. I started feeling jealousy and soon after some hours I'm really upset and bothered. And due to my bad Pluto placements I obsess over this and ot keeps bothering me for days.

In this case ,I did not command my mind "Feel Jealous." I don't have any power over this. I'm completely at the behest of Human Nature and Astrology. Are the feelings of jealousy in this case really important ? I personally don't think so. The only case when Feelings and Emotions really becomes important to the self is when it empowers directed will ,possibly in terms of a working or some motivation etc. But even without motivation and feelings one has to be accustomed to work.

For Example - I feel like shit and I don't want to move out of my bed. Infact I'm sad because of something. But that is not going to stop me from getting out and doing the things I need to do.

The most important thing in life I believe is insurmountable will and its mastery ,when no matter what happens your able to push through. Your emotions, your bad experiences, your programming. Whatever it is ,once you keep moving forward I've experienced all these things evaporate in time.

I think people are taking my words wrong. I'm not saying that you have to suppress or block out your feelings. What I'm saying and this is something that can be taught is to be able to be in a equanimity state with your feelings where your will is still in control and Feelings and Emotions don't bother you. In that way you can listen to a blunt message without being bothered by your emotions.

The way things are said really matter to a lot of women and sensitive men who instead of using logic are trying to grasp onto some emotional meaning behind the words. For Example, "Man you're fat as fuck. You need to lose weight or you're going to die." And "You know, it could be really beneficial for you to lose weight in terms of your health, your confidence ,etc." These two messages mean the same thing but they are delivered different. I personally don't mind bluntness or sugarcoating. It's the same thing to me. But for others it's a really big deal.
 
Jack said:

When you say this, I am satisfied that you have the correct, and healthy idea about feelings. Not sure what happened earlier in the thread - what a headache.

Of course, we are always looking for the most advanced expression. Capricorn people are very emotionally strong, but a negative can be that they are cold or cynical. Water people possess high intuition, but with that comes high sensitivity or receptivity to negativity. In both cases, there are negative elements to prune, and positives to amplify.

When I create my messages, I am trying to get success with my writing. Therefore, I need to understand how people respond. Yes, ideally, people would have the earth and fire to brush off (especially unintentional) negativity, but not everyone does, especially imbalanced new people.

I know of one person who is so sensitive that he becomes very deeply, angrily depressed when hearing harsh, yet true words. I realized later that he doesn't need to hear "YOU HAVE TO DO IT!", he needed to hear "You are able to do it". The 1st statement was too harsh for his high water.

Being high water, and therefore highly receptive, he needed an almost purely positive, present-tense statement. Even though it seemed strange to give "advice" in that manner, and perhaps maybe ridiculous at first, that was what was necessary to get him to start meditating.

Anyway, thanks for your responses. This thread is a shit-show, in hindsight. Sometimes I wish I could prevent this sort of thing from happening, but that's not always the case, especially with 10 different people all arguing different things and misrepresenting each other.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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