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FancyMancy said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Very difficult situations force men to become strong enough to overcome them. The strong men are able to do a lot of work to improve the world, or create a much easier situation for the next generation. ...
I think if I thought about it, that I'd have thought something along these lines. As for the prevention of the weakening of Men -
the eternal struggle, if you please! That's also related to infinite and eternal advancement.
This could go into philosophy, etc. - what if the reptillians and their jew creation never existed here? ...
This idea of struggle producing growth relates to Saturn. Any civilization free of the enemy would recognize this concept or energy and use it to actively grow, not becoming complacent. If the enemy never existed here, we would have a full understanding of Saturn and use it to catalyze us, for example, through Saturn Squares and Nauthiz.
Jack said:
I understand what you're getting it and I don't use blunt and confrontational language that I use on the forums ,in real life.
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What you posted here seems different from your earlier post that began with feelings being unimportant. What you say here shows that your understanding is deeper than before.
What you say about people needing more Saturn energy is true, and will always be true, because of its usefulness. Just remember that, like anything, water (sensitivity) and earth (stoicism) are not mutually exclusive concepts. In regards to the usage of sensitivity, this relates not to crying your eyes out, but in the judgment of energy.
Women are lacking in the lower chakras by nature and are therefore more easily overwhelmed by negativity. Someone who falls into a depression from some words does not serve as a good example for water as a whole, just as someone who assaults another at a bar does not exemplify the fire element.
Beyond sensitivity for knowledge gain, it is useful in the procurement and maintenance of emotional relationships, shown in Venus and in the Moon. Both of these aspects of your soul work best in water signs, or signs mixed with water.
Citing those who are our betters, we see that the Gods possess both amazing endurance and energy, but also extreme sensitivity. In fact, our relationship with them is greatly strengthened by the love they show us, not just their abilities. However, they are still able to make proper decisions, not getting overwhelmed by the extreme conditions on Earth.
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In regards to this argument with Jrvan, I think it has taken so many twists and turns, and now resulting in an ugly brawl, that it should just be stopped. There is no more growth that can happen through this path, and it seems both sides are fed up with the other. Let's not forget that this conversation happened at literally the worst time (Mercury/Venus retro, warfare schedule).
Both should take solace that the other will eventually grow past their problems. These sorts of arguments, where two people's ideologies are butting, can never be expected to be resolved in a single thread, or without further evidence and growth. With that in mind, it is not worth pushing for a sort of ultimatum situation where stress raises significantly.
We need to be focused on helping those who are open to growing at this point in time. Not everyone is able to understand certain situations or obstacles at their current level. We can come back to this person later, while they continue to meditate on their own.