P0rn

[yumais]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

 

[Aquarius]

Many threads about it, use the search function.

 

[Tyrone1978]

I can attest it screws you up. It's for Incels.

I was addicted but don't look anymore. It's like a drug and you start advancing to the more extreme stuff.

It's like you're impotent on the more passive stuff and need heavier stuff to get hard.

This is so embarrassing to say. But yes if it makes you want more depraved stuff of course it's bad for your soul because you no longer desire what is healthy.

Porn addiction can make you sick and sexually dysfunctional.

 

[Someone.something_]

I can attest it screws you up. It's for Incels.

I was addicted but don't look anymore. It's like a drug and you start advancing to the more extreme stuff.

It's like you're impotent on the more passive stuff and need heavier stuff to get hard.

This is so embarrassing to say. But yes if it makes you want more depraved stuff of course it's bad for your soul because you no longer desire what is healthy.

Porn addiction can make you sick and sexually dysfunctional.

Nothing embarrassing about it! We are all different people compared to who we were a year ago, shoot even a month or day ago. You're a better person, you grew and became better. It takes a lot to stop an addiction and most incels and losers can't do that, but you did and you should be proud of yourself!

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

Porn (both videos and images) is definitely addictive and tends to create arousal-addiction. It also sometimes to lead to an addiction of consuming sexual services (escorts) especially for men since women generally speaking can get sex for free at any time and men generally can not.

The No-fap movement is not about celibacy or forbidding masturbation for life, even if some of them are christian people who do promote this also (which is sick). It's really about "reprogramming" the brain from porn addiction. This is done by banning masturbation and porn for 90 days. There is research behind how porn affects the brain in a negative way.
I personally think porn is artificial and not very natural since it creates arousal by watching pixels on a screen whitch also creates the illusion of having multiple sexual encounters. Masturbation and sex however is off course natural and healthy though, and celibacy not.

 

[Tyrone1978]

I can attest it screws you up. It's for Incels.

I was addicted but don't look anymore. It's like a drug and you start advancing to the more extreme stuff.

It's like you're impotent on the more passive stuff and need heavier stuff to get hard.

This is so embarrassing to say. But yes if it makes you want more depraved stuff of course it's bad for your soul because you no longer desire what is healthy.

Porn addiction can make you sick and sexually dysfunctional.

Nothing embarrassing about it! We are all different people compared to who we were a year ago, shoot even a month or day ago. You're a better person, you grew and became better. It takes a lot to stop an addiction and most incels and losers can't do that, but you did and you should be proud of yourself!

Thank you and yes it was when my wife left me and I was going through a divorce and experienced a depression.

I do look at it differently now like it's all fake and acting. Especially when you think you're jacking off to your computer. An IT device.

Yes people change. We learn and grow.

 

[Giszmon666]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

I think there is nothing wrong with porn. It is just a fucking film/video/picture about sex what you can for fap/masturbate. For the spiritual evolution you need sexuality too and masturbating is a great way if you can't get an optional partner. This "addiction" is actually like then "food addiction" where there are "hardly addicted" people whos "can't stop eating" (and actually for tha same food there are people whos are don't get any addiction so the addiction theory is a fucking big bullshit). So if you have enough "self-strickt" or "will-power" than you can watch as many as porn you want without "get addicted". If your body is strong enough than you can forget erectional "problems". I say it as a person who has a "hardcore" sexual life and there were days when I had orgasm 8-9 times without any problem. (and I have this "hardcore" sexual life for years) And the secret is "how strong are your legs".

 

[Henu the Great]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

I think there is nothing wrong with porn. It is just a fucking film/video/picture about sex what you can for fap/masturbate. For the spiritual evolution you need sexuality too and masturbating is a great way if you can't get an optional partner. This "addiction" is actually like then "food addiction" where there are "hardly addicted" people whos "can't stop eating" (and actually for tha same food there are people whos are don't get any addiction so the addiction theory is a fucking big bullshit). So if you have enough "self-strickt" or "will-power" than you can watch as many as porn you want without "get addicted". If your body is strong enough than you can forget erectional "problems". I say it as a person who has a "hardcore" sexual life and there were days when I had orgasm 8-9 times without any problem. (and I have this "hardcore" sexual life for years) And the secret is "how strong are your legs".

Yeah, nine times a day. But do you do anything else during that day then?

Like exercising and work..?

Does not seem plausible to me.

And what does it tell about a person who needs to use porn to get off..?

 

[NG SATchives]

I can attest it screws you up. It's for Incels.

I was addicted but don't look anymore. It's like a drug and you start advancing to the more extreme stuff.

It's like you're impotent on the more passive stuff and need heavier stuff to get hard.

This is so embarrassing to say. But yes if it makes you want more depraved stuff of course it's bad for your soul because you no longer desire what is healthy.

Porn addiction can make you sick and sexually dysfunctional.

I agree with you completely, it's very fucked up, but it does do this, I quit myself and haven't been happier with my decision

 

[Giszmon666]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

I think there is nothing wrong with porn. It is just a fucking film/video/picture about sex what you can for fap/masturbate. For the spiritual evolution you need sexuality too and masturbating is a great way if you can't get an optional partner. This "addiction" is actually like then "food addiction" where there are "hardly addicted" people whos "can't stop eating" (and actually for tha same food there are people whos are don't get any addiction so the addiction theory is a fucking big bullshit). So if you have enough "self-strickt" or "will-power" than you can watch as many as porn you want without "get addicted". If your body is strong enough than you can forget erectional "problems". I say it as a person who has a "hardcore" sexual life and there were days when I had orgasm 8-9 times without any problem. (and I have this "hardcore" sexual life for years) And the secret is "how strong are your legs".

Yeah, nine times a day. But do you do anything else during that day then?

Like exercising and work..?

Does not seem plausible to me.

And what does it tell about a person who needs to use porn to get off..?

It is not for everyday. I have had made this rude comment because I see that this forum is a little bit getting xianlike. But is not a problem to me to getting orgasm after a complete weigth lifting training what was actually 1 hour long and I haven't had get any probleme. This forum should to stop to be xianlike like this. I hope this forum won't go there to that point where it says "Just the celibacy is the good". Whos venus is in the scorpio like I have, we have a very strong sexual appetite. (and stamina)

 

[Aquarius]

How bad is p0rn for you, and for the spiritual life? Does it affect you in many ways?

I think there is nothing wrong with porn. It is just a fucking film/video/picture about sex what you can for fap/masturbate. For the spiritual evolution you need sexuality too and masturbating is a great way if you can't get an optional partner. This "addiction" is actually like then "food addiction" where there are "hardly addicted" people whos "can't stop eating" (and actually for tha same food there are people whos are don't get any addiction so the addiction theory is a fucking big bullshit). So if you have enough "self-strickt" or "will-power" than you can watch as many as porn you want without "get addicted". If your body is strong enough than you can forget erectional "problems". I say it as a person who has a "hardcore" sexual life and there were days when I had orgasm 8-9 times without any problem. (and I have this "hardcore" sexual life for years) And the secret is "how strong are your legs".

You think, but you do not know. 15 yo teenagers literally can't have boners because of porn, people lose their self esteem and can't speak to women because of it. orgasming 9 times a day... lol

 

[Henu the Great]

It is not for everyday. I have had made this rude comment because I see that this forum is a little bit getting xianlike. But is not a problem to me to getting orgasm after a complete weigth lifting training what was actually 1 hour long and I haven't had get any probleme. This forum should to stop to be xianlike like this. I hope this forum won't go there to that point where it says "Just the celibacy is the good". Whos venus is in the scorpio like I have, we have a very strong sexual appetite. (and stamina)

Yes, because using artificial arousal for 9 times a day for ejaculation is so healthy... Do you see your fallacy here?

No one advocated for celibacy. The forum consensus is actually against celibacy. You, on the other hand did advocate for the other extreme. That is not balanced!

It is quite telling about you when you attribute strong sexual desires to watching lot of porn. Imagine what you could achieve when that energy is properly directed. Now it mostly goes to waste.

Ps. It's not a massive feat to ejaculate 9 times a day with porn. But with another person it could be.
Pps. Stamina, sexual or otherwise and desires is not merely what sign your Venus is in.

 

[Rational Satanist]

It is not for everyday. I have had made this rude comment because I see that this forum is a little bit getting xianlike. But is not a problem to me to getting orgasm after a complete weigth lifting training what was actually 1 hour long and I haven't had get any probleme. This forum should to stop to be xianlike like this. I hope this forum won't go there to that point where it says "Just the celibacy is the good". Whos venus is in the scorpio like I have, we have a very strong sexual appetite. (and stamina)

You know you can masturbate without brain-destroying porn, right? Nobody forbids masturbating here. How do you think people did it for thousands of years when video porn wasn't invented yet?

 

[Stormblood]

Porn is one of the main parts of the distraction industry, and has been created especially by the enemy to be consumed by 'slaves', in order to fuck up their lives and to reduce fertility rates. Enough said... It's good to see some of the more frequent members here acknowledging it is unhealthy to watch it. Hopefully, more and more people become aware.

 

[Giszmon666]

It is not for everyday. I have had made this rude comment because I see that this forum is a little bit getting xianlike. But is not a problem to me to getting orgasm after a complete weigth lifting training what was actually 1 hour long and I haven't had get any probleme. This forum should to stop to be xianlike like this. I hope this forum won't go there to that point where it says "Just the celibacy is the good". Whos venus is in the scorpio like I have, we have a very strong sexual appetite. (and stamina)

You know you can masturbate without brain-destroying porn, right? Nobody forbids masturbating here. How do you think people did it for thousands of years when video porn wasn't invented yet?

Imagining sex? :roll:

 

[Artisan]

Some of you are behaving like Retards and saying "muh porn good". Shut the fuck up and look at some actual scientific research. Here's two pages from a great website that will shut down any notion of porn being ANYTHING but harmful.

Research

Relevant Research and Articles About the Studies

Here's a good one that a member mentioned about "high sexual desire" which is mentioned on the first link.

Studies falsify the claim that sex & porn addicts “just have high sexual desire”

 

[newbie40]

Oh i will quit porno.

 

[Soul Wings]

Pornography is poison. Positively filthy. It should be considered a narcotic and sternly regulated.

Ahh fuck it, I'm going to open this can of worms.
I am undecided as to whether light use of it every now and then (I'm talking a few times a month) is detrimental. However the following assumes one becomes addicted.

Honestly, from experience, yes. It is detrimental to both sexes, and worse in ways that are not obvious straight away. It can become addictive so easily so quickly, no matter who you are. Sound familiar? Do you see people using heroin advocating for heroin to be regulated? No. Because they don't want the high taken away from them. And because they know they have to face reality if they don't have it.
It is making people so detached from reality their bodies are dysfunctional. It can cause literal nerve damage. Viagra use has gone up dramatically to the point where there are dealers. The guilt and shame realizing you just gasm'd to someone who doesn't give a flying fuck about you and never will. The loneliness. It can cause fantasies that will never happen IRL. It can make you depressed or disillusioned because real sex is nothing like pornography. It can cause apathy towards feelings. It can cause detrimental kinks. It can cause dissatisfaction in faithful partners. It can cause financial ruin. It is by definition, voyeurism. How many people would willingly call themselves a Voyeur? You may not even know you are addicted to it. Dear reader, we both know this is the truth. There are so many more things wrong with this stuff but.....

figure of the past fucking hell. Who reads the opinion of someone who doesn't like porn these days anyway, lol. So much effort for nothing. I'm pissing in the wind again.

The porn business itself is unregulated, televised prostitution. The "actors/actresses" are not treated very well and standards for health & safety here are quite low.

There are porn actresses who are horrified at what they see in the industry and they've been working in it their whole lives. What does that say about the consumer?
The absolute worst thing about the sex industry in general is the amount of sex trafficking and it's crime rate is rising. This has a lot to do with porn. It has become one of the biggest crimes in the world. Some of the most searched categories or porn in the world are borderline incestuous in nature and it makes me sick to my stomach. How do you know if the woman in the video you're watching has been trafficked or not? How do you know a pimp hasn't taken her money, keeping her destitute? No, you don't know. That is so dangerous. There is so much degeneracy in this industry that has remained unaddressed for so long.

If prostitution was a sanctioned and regulated business, and the two sexes and the dynamics between them were in good order, there would be no need for porn, we could sidestep the issue entirely. Why watch it when you can have the real thing?

Yes.... I 100% agree prostitution should be legalised and regulated. NZ has done it and there are no issues, they are thriving there. However prostitution may open doorways to distrust in monogamous relationships. I would not have a problem if my partner saw a prostitute in the past if he made sure she was tested, got himself tested and used protection and was HONEST about it. But how the fuck will I ever know that? I think the fact that it's illegal tends to deter the public from bothering most of the time. I know people can cheat with randos but it just adds another notch on the "uh oh I better be careful with this person" stick. Truly, how much does their libido affect what they do? I don't even know if destigmatising prostitution will take this away.
As for "gender dynamics" being fixed... I'm going to be honest with you. I don't see that happening within my lifetime. I don't really have much to comment on it, as I have very little hope this is going to happen. All we can do is try to be individually understanding of each other... and that's it.

 

[Lunar666]

porn is for losers, porn is evil.

 

[Fire Kobra]

Pornography is poison. Positively filthy. It should be considered a narcotic and sternly regulated.

Ahh fuck it, I'm going to open this can of worms.
I am undecided as to whether light use of it every now and then (I'm talking a few times a month) is detrimental. However the following assumes one becomes addicted.

Honestly, from experience, yes. It is detrimental to both sexes, and worse in ways that are not obvious straight away. It can become addictive so easily so quickly, no matter who you are. Sound familiar? Do you see people using heroin advocating for heroin to be regulated? No. Because they don't want the high taken away from them. And because they know they have to face reality if they don't have it.
It is making people so detached from reality their bodies are dysfunctional. It can cause literal nerve damage. Viagra use has gone up dramatically to the point where there are dealers. The guilt and shame realizing you just gasm'd to someone who doesn't give a flying fuck about you and never will. The loneliness. It can cause fantasies that will never happen IRL. It can make you depressed or disillusioned because real sex is nothing like pornography. It can cause apathy towards feelings. It can cause detrimental kinks. It can cause dissatisfaction in faithful partners. It can cause financial ruin. It is by definition, voyeurism. How many people would willingly call themselves a Voyeur? You may not even know you are addicted to it. Dear reader, we both know this is the truth. There are so many more things wrong with this stuff but.....

figure of the past fucking hell. Who reads the opinion of someone who doesn't like porn these days anyway, lol. So much effort for nothing. I'm pissing in the wind again.

The porn business itself is unregulated, televised prostitution. The "actors/actresses" are not treated very well and standards for health & safety here are quite low.

There are porn actresses who are horrified at what they see in the industry and they've been working in it their whole lives. What does that say about the consumer?
The absolute worst thing about the sex industry in general is the amount of sex trafficking and it's crime rate is rising. This has a lot to do with porn. It has become one of the biggest crimes in the world. Some of the most searched categories or porn in the world are borderline incestuous in nature and it makes me sick to my stomach. How do you know if the woman in the video you're watching has been trafficked or not? How do you know a pimp hasn't taken her money, keeping her destitute? No, you don't know. That is so dangerous. There is so much degeneracy in this industry that has remained unaddressed for so long.

If prostitution was a sanctioned and regulated business, and the two sexes and the dynamics between them were in good order, there would be no need for porn, we could sidestep the issue entirely. Why watch it when you can have the real thing?

Yes.... I 100% agree prostitution should be legalised and regulated. NZ has done it and there are no issues, they are thriving there. However prostitution may open doorways to distrust in monogamous relationships. I would not have a problem if my partner saw a prostitute in the past if he made sure she was tested, got himself tested and used protection and was HONEST about it. But how the fuck will I ever know that? I think the fact that it's illegal tends to deter the public from bothering most of the time. I know people can cheat with randos but it just adds another notch on the "uh oh I better be careful with this person" stick. Truly, how much does their libido affect what they do? I don't even know if destigmatising prostitution will take this away.
As for "gender dynamics" being fixed... I'm going to be honest with you. I don't see that happening within my lifetime. I don't really have much to comment on it, as I have very little hope this is going to happen. All we can do is try to be individually understanding of each other... and that's it.

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https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64948&p=299125#p299125

 

[Pillar]

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What is disturbing is sometimes these women are groomed into porn out of high school. They may come from dysfunctional homes or suffer from mental/emotional disorders and addictions that make them susceptible to manipulation. Yehubor thrive in this business. Watch Hannah Hays interview with JF Gariepy if you want an example. Or the role of porn in the Weimar.

I seldom read the forums so, at risk of repeating something already said, I wish to add that porn is very much oriented to woman suppression, as you noticed by this kind of mental slavery they impose on young girls.
Same as islam and medioeval xianity, restrictions for women equal to fade the female side of the souls and/or the mind, so that only male power prevails. This results in cut-off of anything spiritual, and extreme imbalance.
This is also subliminal and binding, on the long term.