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Opinion on crying

dark23_revenge

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I was reading the other day about healing and in one sermon, Maxine clearly stated that Father Satan told her not to cry (when one of her pets was very ill and she stabilize him/her) because it's a sign of weakness.

Well, I went through some bad sht years ago, even as a kid, but ever since(even dealing with some more, but smaller) I started to cry like once in 4/5 months (before... Somewhere every day), but only to have bigger mental breakdowns.

Now, I wanted to write this some time ago, but yesterday I had another one right in front of my mother and after I finally told her most of what I was going through, I thought about this, "what Father thinks? " . Aaaand here I am

I meditate, but it didn't change the pattern, nor the intensity. So I ask you, what do you think, what would Father think and have a good day / night.
 
In the sermon you are referring to, Satan did not say crying was a sign of weakness. The sermon you are referring to is the bottom of the "Satanic Healing" page on the Joy of Satan website here: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aling.html Maxine's cat was extremely ill and required expensive surgery. At the time, Maxine did not have much in terms of finances and could not afford the surgery. Satan told Maxine he would get her the money for her cat's surgery, and then she started crying. He told her not to cry as that was a lack of faith.

If you need to cry, cry. Suppressing your emotions is extremely unhealthy. After you are done crying, stomp the absolute crap out of whoever made you cry.

Black Magick Guide
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic16813.html
 
Well in that particular experience Father told High Priestess Maxine Dietrich not to cry because it would've been an admission that her pet wasn't going to get well again. So not necessarily that "crying is weak", but that accepting defeat is weak.

Sounds like you need to do some more in depth meditations to solve the damage caused by your past situation. If you continue to just cry about it, you're not learning or growing any, and that's what Father wants to see.

Satanama
 
I think that was because crying during a working shows that the worker might not fully believe in their own power and the efficacy of the working. HPS Maxine has said that crying during some type of Black Magick (I believe a revenge working) to let out one's emotion at the target is fine. 
 
You took the sermon you mentioned out of context, as it does not say crying indicates weakness there; it says crying shows a lack of faith, in Maxine's case that was between her and Father Satan for that moment. Crying is not necessarily weakness.
People cry and this just happens for different reasons. If you need to cry in order to exert repressed emotions, then do it. Children and some adults cry when they can't receive what they want. Of course it doesn't make everyone weak if they cry; I stand stone-faced toward real life deaths but I cry when a cartoon character dies. It's completely variable
 
You misunderstood. Maxine said her cat was very sick, so she was doing a working on her to cat to heal him/her and while She was doing the working she was crying. Satan told her to stop crying because this shows doubt. You're not supposed to doubt any of your workings, like Father told Maxine, know she's being healed and it's working. That's what he meant. To not doubt your workings.


Satan didn't mean crying is a sign of weakness on its own. We're supposed to deal with our emotions and accept them as humans. Repressing emotions can makes blocks in the chakras. So it's fine to cry and let our your emotions.


Just don't doubt your workings. Lol
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On Fri, 3/24/17, dark23_revenge@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Opinion on crying
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Friday, March 24, 2017, 10:10 PM

I was reading the other
day about healing and in one sermon, Maxine clearly stated
that Father Satan told her not to cry (when one of her pets
was very ill and she stabilize him/her) because it's a
sign of weakness.

Well, I
went through some bad sht years ago, even as a kid, but ever
since(even dealing with some more, but smaller) I started to
cry like once in 4/5 months (before... Somewhere every day),
but only to have bigger mental breakdowns.

Now, I wanted to write this
some time ago, but yesterday I had another one right in
front of my mother and after I finally told her most of what
I was going through, I thought about this, "what Father
thinks? " . Aaaand here I am

I meditate, but it didn't change the
pattern, nor the intensity. So I ask you, what do you think,
what would Father think and have a good day / night.
 
You need to start the SURYAYE  meditation if you haven't already this will clean out a lot of the dross the enemy has cursed you with. I have never had a mental breakdown since coming to Satan. You should also practice more void meditation and include the Visarga chant which helps tremendously with void meditation.
Don't actually do the Visarga chant during void meditation though, do it separately. Also make you aura of protection stronger.

Try chanting it 15 to 30 times a day and after a couple of months you will notice a huge difference in your void meditation sessions permanantely.

Void meditation helps you to get a handle on your emotions and it also helps you to discern when thoughts are not your own, or feeling are not your own such as when the enemy likes to use the psychic links that attach people at a chakra to send someone's thought or feeling to you by the link. Or when the enemy actually personally implants its bullshit thoughts into your head. It's obvious the enemy is trying to ruin you and trying to turn you insane with this shit it is instigating on you in your life. You have to fight this and get over it. A entire world full of people are depending on you, you're depending on you. Satan and the Gods are depending on you.

I also personally suggest you start this working that Lydia posted about annihilating the mental dross with the WUNJO rune. I will post the link. The enemy has done some nasty things to me on the mental side as well, but I don't let it affect me like it has you. GET STRONGER.

I also advise you try and change your diet into something as healthy as possible as the foods we eat affect us mentally for better or worse. Here is the link to Lydia's post.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ics/176994

And here is how to do the SURYAYE meditation. When you leave holes in your armor it gets you killed. Do NOT underestimate these beings for one second no matter how hard they try to seem weak and pathetic. It's just a ploy and a clever deception from the enemy at that point. These beings threaten everything in the universe. Make sure to vibrate the SURYAYE chant 216 times this was a message from Satan which High Prietess Maxine Dietrich gave to us for Him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqo-Levk7Zw

I advise you do this meditation twice a day. The enemy is trying to take you down this way do you want them to drive you insane? Because if you DON'T fight back, they will. Here is a good affirmation to use with the SURYAYE meditation.

"My aura is constantly deflecting and repelling any and all negative energy, spite, ill will, and curses death attempt and death curses directed at me, and is always returning it back to those who send it." make sure to keep yourself sorrounded in white gold light while stating this affirmation. Then vibrate AUM 9 times. You vibrate the A into your solar chakra, the U into your fifth chakra, and the M into your sixth chakra. Here is a chakra diagram for helping your find your chakras.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Spine.gif  
I also advise you do this runic working. Algiz, Berkano, and Sol runes in that order. Make sure to visualize the runes while stating affirmations and while vibrating the rune and sorround yourself in white gold light while stating affirmations and and vibrating the rune. Here is a method I use handed to me by Johnson_Akemi.

State affirmation 9 times
Vibrate rune 108 times
Vibrate AUM
State affirmation 9 more times
Vibrate AUM once more

finished.

A good affirmation to use with each rune is this:

"The name of rune is constantly continously and permanantely deflecting and repelling any and all attacks from greys angels draconians and reptilians and is constantly continuously and permanentely keeping me safe secure protected and healthy at all times."

It seems like a long affirmation but you'll be fine. This is what you need to do NOW before the enemy destroys you.

 
Also make sure to avoid the void of course moon when starting any working/meditation.

Here is a website to help you track what the moon is doing in your area if you give it your accurate location.

www.lunarium.co.uk

You should start the runic working either this Thursday or Sunday. Don't miss the opportunity to start this as soon as possible.  Make sure to bookmark the web page with your accurate location and then put a false location back into it. This website and its accurate information has literally saved my life more than once it can be trusted.

Hail Satan. 
 
Thank you all for responding. 
1. Now I still have problems to solve, so I'm not "complaining" only about the past. When I'll be finished I know I'll be better.
2. I don't have that much time alone to do a Wunjo working properly, as I tried a Sun Square and Lydias working of 40 days for healing and failed miserably..
And, @discipleofthegods13, I've read about most of the workings you listed and I planned already to start a SURYAYE next week, when it's best for me, but again, I'm struggling with my parents walking/turning the TV/speaking too loud the next room..
Thanks again
Hail the Gods of Hell!
 
I live with 5 other people and I hate it when they're loud. It makes it hard to meditate but I usually go out to the car in the middle of the night where I have peace and quite and I can get RTRS done but this is just me. Just know things will get better because you won't be there forever. Things could always be worse. But I don't know you or your situation personally so I wish you the best of luck
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On Wed, 3/29/17, dark23_revenge@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Opinion on crying
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2017, 11:58 AM

Thank you all for
responding. 
1. Now I still have problems
to solve, so I'm not "complaining" only about
the past. When I'll be finished I know I'll be
better.



2. I don't have that much time alone to do a Wunjo
working properly, as I tried a Sun Square and Lydias working
of 40 days for healing and failed miserably..


And,
@discipleofthegods13, I've read about most of the
workings you listed and I planned already to start a SURYAYE
next week, when it's best for me, but again, I'm
struggling with my parents walking/turning the TV/speaking
too loud the next room..



Thanks again



Hail the Gods of Hell!
 
One day the cat will get old and ill though and will it die? Even if one isn't doubtful and very advanced animals will still age and eventually die won't they?
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On Sun, 3/26/17, all me allfortheclergy@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Opinion on crying
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, March 26, 2017, 11:26 AM

You misunderstood. Maxine
said her cat was very sick,  so she was doing a working on
her to cat to heal him/her and while She was doing the
working she was crying.  Satan told her to stop crying
because this shows doubt. You're not supposed to doubt
any of your workings,  like Father told Maxine, know
she's being healed and it's working.  That's
what he meant.  To not doubt your workings. 


Satan
didn't mean crying is a sign of weakness on its own. 
We're supposed to deal with our emotions and accept them
as humans. Repressing emotions can makes blocks in the
chakras.  So it's fine to cry and let our your
emotions.


Just don't doubt your workings. Lol
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On Fri, 3/24/17, dark23_revenge@...
[JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
wrote:



Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Opinion on crying

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Friday, March 24, 2017, 10:10 PM

I was reading the other
day about healing and in one sermon, Maxine
clearly stated
that Father Satan told her
not to cry (when one of her pets
was very
ill and she stabilize him/her) because it's a
sign of weakness.

Well, I
went through some bad
sht years ago, even as a kid, but ever

since(even dealing with some more, but smaller) I started
to
cry like once in 4/5 months (before...
Somewhere every day),
but only to have
bigger mental breakdowns.

Now, I wanted to write this

some time ago, but yesterday I had another one right in
front of my mother and after I finally told
her most of what
I was going through, I
thought about this, "what Father

thinks? " . Aaaand here I am

I meditate, but it didn't change the
pattern, nor the intensity. So I ask you, what
do you think,
what would Father think and
have a good day / night.
 
Tell me about the Visarga chant please, Deciple. 
Hail SatanHail Lilith
Dehna

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:44 AM, descipleofthegods13@... [JoyofSatan666]<[email protected] wrote:   You need to start the SURYAYE  meditation if you haven't already this will clean out a lot of the dross the enemy has cursed you with. I have never had a mental breakdown since coming to Satan. You should also practice more void meditation and include the Visarga chant which helps tremendously with void meditation.
Don't actually do the Visarga chant during void meditation though, do it separately. Also make you aura of protection stronger.

Try chanting it 15 to 30 times a day and after a couple of months you will notice a huge difference in your void meditation sessions permanantely.

Void meditation helps you to get a handle on your emotions and it also helps you to discern when thoughts are not your own, or feeling are not your own such as when the enemy likes to use the psychic links that attach people at a chakra to send someone's thought or feeling to you by the link. Or when the enemy actually personally implants its bullshit thoughts into your head. It's obvious the enemy is trying to ruin you and trying to turn you insane with this shit it is instigating on you in your life. You have to fight this and get over it. A entire world full of people are depending on you, you're depending on you. Satan and the Gods are depending on you.

I also personally suggest you start this working that Lydia posted about annihilating the mental dross with the WUNJO rune. I will post the link. The enemy has done some nasty things to me on the mental side as well, but I don't let it affect me like it has you. GET STRONGER.

I also advise you try and change your diet into something as healthy as possible as the foods we eat affect us mentally for better or worse. Here is the link to Lydia's post.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ics/176994

And here is how to do the SURYAYE meditation. When you leave holes in your armor it gets you killed. Do NOT underestimate these beings for one second no matter how hard they try to seem weak and pathetic. It's just a ploy and a clever deception from the enemy at that point. These beings threaten everything in the universe. Make sure to vibrate the SURYAYE chant 216 times this was a message from Satan which High Prietess Maxine Dietrich gave to us for Him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqo-Levk7Zw

I advise you do this meditation twice a day. The enemy is trying to take you down this way do you want them to drive you insane? Because if you DON'T fight back, they will. Here is a good affirmation to use with the SURYAYE meditation.

"My aura is constantly deflecting and repelling any and all negative energy, spite, ill will, and curses death attempt and death curses directed at me, and is always returning it back to those who send it." make sure to keep yourself sorrounded in white gold light while stating this affirmation. Then vibrate AUM 9 times. You vibrate the A into your solar chakra, the U into your fifth chakra, and the M into your sixth chakra. Here is a chakra diagram for helping your find your chakras.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Spine.gif  
I also advise you do this runic working. Algiz, Berkano, and Sol runes in that order. Make sure to visualize the runes while stating affirmations and while vibrating the rune and sorround yourself in white gold light while stating affirmations and and vibrating the rune. Here is a method I use handed to me by Johnson_Akemi.

State affirmation 9 times
Vibrate rune 108 times
Vibrate AUM
State affirmation 9 more times
Vibrate AUM once more

finished.

A good affirmation to use with each rune is this:

"The name of rune is constantly continously and permanantely deflecting and repelling any and all attacks from greys angels draconians and reptilians and is constantly continuously and permanentely keeping me safe secure protected and healthy at all times."

It seems like a long affirmation but you'll be fine. This is what you need to do NOW before the enemy destroys you.
 
@dark23_revenge. Ref finding alone time
I've used the bathroom. Close and lock the door. Take a shower, sit on the toilet [or pretend]. I was the cleanest person around! Lol. I've also taken walks and taken a drive or bus somewhere. You don't have to be loud. Some rituals can be almost said in your head. 
Get creative. You can do it! The enemy is the one to say you can't.
Hail SatanHail Lilith
Dehna
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, dark23_revenge@... [JoyofSatan666]<[email protected] wrote:   Thank you all for responding. 
1. Now I still have problems to solve, so I'm not "complaining" only about the past. When I'll be finished I know I'll be better.
2. I don't have that much time alone to do a Wunjo working properly, as I tried a Sun Square and Lydias working of 40 days for healing and failed miserably..
And, @discipleofthegods13, I've read about most of the workings you listed and I planned already to start a SURYAYE next week, when it's best for me, but again, I'm struggling with my parents walking/turning the TV/speaking too loud the next room..
Thanks again
Hail the Gods of Hell!
 
I found out about it roughly a year and some months ago from a post made here.

You pronounce it like this: VEEEESAAHHRRRRGGGAHHH. It was a recommendation in this group.

I've been doing it ever since. Make sure to not start this meditation/working during a void of course moon.

Here is how to avoid the void of course moon. Make sure to put your accurate information in for accurate results.

www.lunarium.co.uk

Make the G a hard G.
 
I didn't wanted to sound like I can't do anything. My mom knows about this and my father just sees me meditating . They're cool and very open, but just living loud and moving around the house a little too much I might say.. :)) And my mind still wonders sometimes when they come in my room.
There are a lot more that stopped me or disrupted me when I did those 2 workings, so I have some fault too. I just need more void meditation and less depression

About the cat, even if it's not on the subject, do really familiars live longer or they just follow the nature of the specie?
 
My parents know I'm not an xian and it pisses them off lol they always ask me why I haven't taken my life Cuz my mom said she's done dealing with me lol I'm like mom I have beliefs you know. They know I meditate and stuff cu they th to be all up in my business but ill just tell them I'm Buddhist
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On Sun, 4/2/17, dark23_revenge@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:


Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Opinion on crying
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, April 2, 2017, 6:53 AM

I didn't wanted to
sound like I can't do anything. My mom knows about this
and my father just sees me meditating . They're cool and
very open, but just living loud and moving around the house
a little too much I might say.. :)) And my mind still
wonders sometimes when they come in my room.
There are a lot more that stopped me or
disrupted me when I did those 2 workings, so I have some
fault too. I just need more void meditation and less
depression

About the cat,
even if it's not on the subject, do really familiars
live longer or they just follow the nature of the
specie?
 
You can also say you're non religious & that meditation is a way you can relax & think (for example Descartes wrote a book called Meditations, but there are no instructions on how to meditate, just his philosophical though process)
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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