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Is the devil an alien, a spiritual being, or a god?

Marilyn Manson

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According to some articles I read here, beings like devils, angels and God are actually aliens. In spiritual satanism, what exactly are these beings, what are their natures, what are their limits and powers?
 
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How can I get guidance from the Guardian Demon, how can I feel his presence, what should I do to contact him?

Read this, please:

And this:

And this too:
 
do they respond to people who want to communicate with them one by one?
Demons are very busy, they don't appear all the time or anything like that. You won't have conversations with them 24/7. But you can trust that they are there 24/7.

Satan does not abandon his children, his Dedicated Satanists, and cares for us both individually and as a group. I have witnessed the presence of Satan in my life. I have not physically seen him, but to say that he has never actually manifested himself would be unrealistic blasphemy on my part.

The fact that Satan will not dialogue with you every day all day does not mean in the slightest that you will not be in his heart and he will not guard you or that he will occasionally stop taking care of your (true) growth. Satan is there. Always and forever. :)

If a lot of Satanists practice demonology at the same time, how would they respond and what is their benefit from us and why do they love us?

The way the Gods communicate is not necessarily long "speeches or monologues" as people would expect. Sometimes they can be signs, coincidences, ideas and intuitions. Really instant stuff, but if you're open to it and can recognize it, it's VERY helpful. I guarantee from experience, it is not at all a type of guide to be underestimated, it is VERY useful and meaningful.

If the human mind could open up even this far, being able to distinguish this from some suggestion effectively, it would be extremely beneficial to people indeed. I personally have never had telepathic conversations, because I don't have that kind of advancement.

But coincidences, signs, new ideas and dreams (the dream thing only happened to me once actually, but I have proof that it was actually a dream from the Gods) came into my life without the need for specific divination tools (which however I used in the past: I'm referring to the ouija board) and I'm grateful even just for this. These are very useful things, extremely helpful.

I know it seems off-topic, but regarding Satan taking care of you, I would like to add that I recommend this reading:
 
f a lot of Satanists practice demonology at the same time
"Demonology" isn't something you practice, it's the study of Demons, usually from a Christian/enemy viewpoint that assumes they are "evil spirits" and not loving Gods of humanity. Look it up in an online dictionary, thar's what it means, there is even Christian demonology:


I think you used the wrong word here, you probably meant "if a lot of Satanists summoned the same God at the same time"
 
Off-topic, (note for the mods), but, why are you named after a drag-queen, namely the Marilyn Manson name?
I enjoy his music; he’s someone I've been listening to since I was a kid. He also has an occult side (I can share some links if you'd like, they’re quite enjoyable to read). Just to clarify, the name I use online and in many games isn’t related to supporting drag queens or anything of the sort—I actually don’t like such things. It’s simply a nickname. If it’s deemed inappropriate or offensive, I can change it without any issue.
 
"Demonology" isn't something you practice, it's the study of Demons, usually from a Christian/enemy viewpoint that assumes they are "evil spirits" and not loving Gods of humanity. Look it up in an online dictionary, thar's what it means, there is even Christian demonology:


I think you used the wrong word here, you probably meant "if a lot of Satanists summoned the same God at the same time"
Yes, my English is bad. Demon and God are translated incorrectly
 
There are many dimensions of existence, and some beings do inhabit and exist on multiple at the same time while others not. We all move towards complexifying our being, activating/building higher "spheres" of our soul.
 
The way the Gods communicate is not necessarily long "speeches or monologues" as people would expect. Sometimes they can be signs, coincidences, ideas and intuitions. Really instant stuff, but if you're open to it and can recognize it, it's VERY helpful. I guarantee from experience, it is not at all a type of guide to be underestimated, it is VERY useful and meaningful.
Thats what i get most of time
 
Deva (Sanskrit : देव, Sanskrit pronunciation: [de:vɐ]) means "shiny", "exalted", "heavenly being", "divine being", "anything of excellence", [1] and is also one of the Sanskrit terms used to indicate a deity in Hinduism.
Replying to myself lol. I think it was actually 'devi' (Goddess/goodness). The above is the maculine form, my bad. 😅
 
Сатана и Боги — инопланетяне. Это значит, что они пришли с других планет. Они достигли уровней большого духовного развития. Это не абсурд: люди тоже могут развиваться, и любой, кто пытался практиковать духовность постоянно и непрерывно в течение долгого времени, знает, насколько это конкретно.

Сатана и Боги очень продвинуты и достигли высоких духовных уровней, Божественного Состояния, физического бессмертия и т. д. Сатана дает этот дар своим детям, он дает им возможность достичь тех же самых вещей. Но Сатана уже достиг этого.

Вот почему Сатана и его Демоны были Учителями человечества. Они учили великому духовному знанию через аллегорические мифологии и многое другое. Есть много историй, в которых участвуют наши Демоны. Например, Зевс (т.е. Вельзевул) был главным героем многих аллегорических историй, которые на самом деле были учениями, которые следовало понимать духовно, а не буквально.

Они очень могущественные божества, очевидно, это не имеет ничего общего с воображаемым христианским всемогуществом, где невидимые персонажи фэнтези щелкают пальцами два или три раза и создают мультивселенные. Но наши Боги действительно очень могущественны, и понимание их сущности и того, что они представляют, может быть сложным. Настолько сложным, что некоторые Боги имеют несколько имен даже среди одного и того же населения. Например, Демон Астарта известна в Греции как Афродита, Афина, Артемида и так далее.

Сказать исключительно, что они могущественны, также будет преуменьшением. Наши Боги — буквально совершенные существа. Мудрость, интеллект, знания, осознанность, этика... Демон действительно совершенен, не имеет изъянов, является лучшим проводником, который только может быть, и я уверен, что каждый должен искать руководства у своего Демона-Хранителя (приведу пример).

Держитесь ближе к Богам. Об Ангелах и прочем, это просто еврейская чушь. Держитесь подальше от этих отвратительных вещей. Они не созданы для язычников (т. е. неевреев), они просто оказываются проклятиями для язычников. Нет ни одного случая, чтобы язычник сообщал о нетравматических переживаниях с Ангелом. Не сосредотачивайтесь на этом, сосредоточьтесь на Богах и величии Богов. Наполните себя позитивом сатанизма, а не ангельским мусором.

Однако ваше любопытство очень позитивно, искренние поздравления с учебой! Продолжайте в том же духе!:)
ЭхThis means that Satan/Lucifer is not God, but an alien from another planet. And he and his planet were created by someone else, not him??
 
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It depends on what you mean by "God." Read here to better understand the concept of united universal consciousness (which you may mean this by God):\\\
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But yes, this Universal Force exists (and it has nothing to do with that Judeo/Christian junk). That said, the definition of God, apart from this kind of universal force, is typically the following which has NOTHING to do with what the creationist Church of Christians promotes:\\\
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"In the ancient grimoires, the secret code words for chakra/s are "God/s." The full chakra meditation involves working on all of your seven chakras per meditation session"\\\
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"[...] the Egyptian God of the Sun. The word 'God' is also a term for the chakras"\\\
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"As most of you know, the code-word "Gods" means the chakras. The all-important '666' chakra, which is the solar plexus chakra; is 'King of the Gods"\\\
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SO-when is it that a person can call himself or herself "God/Goddess"?\\\
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"There are several different aspects that make up the human soul. [...] the chakras"\\\
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"In many grimoires and ancient texts, the code word for "chakra/s" is "God/s." For example, references to certain "words of power" that "command the gods" as seen in Ancient Egyptian spiritual writings. "God" is also a code-word for one's self"\\\
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"The final goal of the Spiritual Satanic path, is to achieve the Magnum Opus, meaning "The Great Work" and is the goal of philosophical application of spiritual knowledge. This stands for the transformation of the Soul into "Gold" is the recreation of the soul into the Godhead"\\\
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Now, more or less, you have understood the purpose of the Magnum Opus, which is the Divine Condition (which I will explain in a bit what it consists of), but you should read here to understand more or less at the level of processing what the Magnum Opus is based on:\\\
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What does the Magnum Opus entail in terms of the Divine Condition for the person?\\\
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"A great possibility, a dream, a reality. To be glorious enough to have walked, and humbled enough to say: Finally, I shall become as the Gods.\\\
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Like He, Satan Himself, that issued the first call to self-knowledge and said so, keeping His promise: “I shall make thee as Gods!”.\\\
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The highest attainment in Spiritual Satanism, but also the capstone of the heavens and the earth"\\\
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"I place my affairs in the hands of those whom I have tried and who are in accord with my desires" - Father Satanas\\\
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FURTHER, THERE IS TO REMEMBER THIS: the Magnum Opus is the result of what you are, do and become. It is not the starting point for doing good things. It is you becoming the God you want to become by doing good things. Good things are mainly "improving yourself and the universe."\\\
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So who created Satan, Satan's planet and the universe itself? The answer:\\\
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Now of course you will ask how to reach the Magnum Opus "step by step". But I will not be the one to answer that question. You yourself will get that answer when you are ready (which is not now that you are just starting out), but something might already be good to read: https://templeofzeus.org/Expect.html\\\
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This link I gave you at the time is an ideal starting point:\\\
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Something VERY important:\\\
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You will find a VERY GOOD easy Hatha and Kundalini Yoga routine here:\\\
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Other advanced Hatha routines (for a specific chakra:\\\
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Other Kundalini routines (for different goals):\\\
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One important thing: Do things progressively, not overnight. Give your body, mind and soul time to adapt the things you add. Start from the bottom. As High Priest Zevios Metathronos explains:\\\
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«Многие спрашивают, как долго нужно медитировать. Нет ответа на вопрос, как долго. Эти 5-часовые сеансы медитации или 100 000 повторений в ванне и прыжки в воду с чтением мантр (это настоящий индуистский совет для духовного развития) могут быть опасны. Что касается обманщиков, которые говорят, что не спят всю ночь, и так далее, то для большинства людей это не обязательно. Медитация работает за счет качества. Точно так же, как профессиональный спортсмен сможет тренироваться гораздо больше обычного, человек, который начал заниматься вчера, если он просидит 5 часов, свалится в больнице, возможно, с необратимым ущербом. Игра в Бога и гангстера здесь не принесет вам ничего, кроме необратимого ущерба.\\\
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Медитацию, как и тяжелую атлетику и любое другое искусство, нужно освоить.\\\
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Люди, которые сильны от природы, смогут поднять 50 на кулаках, скажем, другие 10. В конце концов, если парень с 50 думает, что он может поднять 150 на второй день, он становится самоуверенным и срывается. Через год другой парень, который упорствовал, делает 150 ежедневно, как кусок хлеба. Другой больше не может поднимать веса ни хрена"\\\
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Из PDF-файла HP Zevios Metathronos:\\\
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И еще немного рекомендаций о том, СКОЛЬКО нужно медитировать:\\\
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Хорошо, я думаю, что я развеял не только те сомнения, о которых вы спросили, но и многие другие, которые у вас, вероятно, еще оставались бы.:)\\\
Дайте мне знать, если вам что-то еще понадобится, я доступен.:)\\\
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Thank you for giving me answers to questions I asked and didn't ask. I appreciate it very much, but I still don't understand what God really is. I'm a little slow in the head.All I understood is that Satan and the other gods are the same people as us, but who have advanced spiritually, to the 3rd "level" of Magnum Opus. And Satan and the other gods were created by the same gods.And so on endlessly, because the universe has neither beginning nor end. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you.
 
According to some articles I read here, beings like devils, angels and God are actually aliens. In spiritual satanism, what exactly are these beings, what are their natures, what are their limits and powers?
Welcome here.
It's exactly how you state in the topic : Satan is indeed the True God, also an Alien (Nordic nace), also a Spiritual Being (with a physical body on another planet, namely Duat in the constellation of Orion).

I don't know much about Marilyn Manson. But I think his music is somehow related to Satan intended as "The Devil", in a wrong view that comes from the mainstream.
It is highly possible that you are unconsciously interested in Satanism and the Ttue God, this is why you reached this website. Here, as others have very well linked and explained to you, you can find exhaustive information. And yes the Demons may reply to you directly, but this require a formal Ritual made humbly and with respect. As you are new and honestly interested, you may receive a blatant message in case you want to try, following the instructions on here.

Some people come here when they are ready.
Le me explain. Before dedicating my Soul, I felt a strong interest in Astronomy, I studied the Planets, observed and took photos of them, read books, etc. Years later I finally dedicated my Soul to Satan. Later on, I understood that I have a natural interest (unconscious) for Astrology, that is spiritual, but I dwelled on Astronomy instead when I was not ready yet, that is physical science. I was on the right path but on the wrong lane, so to speak.
 
Thank you for giving me answers to questions I asked and didn't ask. I appreciate it very much, but I still don't understand what God really is. I'm a little slow in the head.All I understood is that Satan and the other gods are the same people as us, but who have advanced spiritually, to the 3rd "level" of Magnum Opus. And Satan and the other gods were created by the same gods.And so on endlessly, because the universe has neither beginning nor end. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you.

I will try to clarify in a simpler way so you have a key to better understand the message. I will do my best at least. :)

Yes, Satan and the Gods were not "born" with the third level of the Magnum Opus already achieved by default. This is because everything in life must be conquered: achieved through hard work. And that is what gives us the credit for being who we are.

Satan has parents who brought him into the world just as you have parents who brought you into the world, and this is how it generally works for how people come into the world. Satan and Beelzebul for example are brothers. Just in the sense that they have parents. And Astarte is Satan's daughter and so on. That's the way it works. But that does not diminish their universal power and level. Because the Divine conception that Christians promote (and which is typically stolen from the concept of Unitary Consciousness whose link I sent you) is not a real being (at least Christianly speaking), so you can't say, "Isn't the Christian God the Christian God? So is Satan the Christian God?" no.

Satan is not the substitute to be put in place of the Church Archetype of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ simply does not play a truly Divine role. Satan embodies truly supreme universal values that transcend anything that can be said or conceived, even in the greatest levels. But he truly has every merit for having achieved by his own strength such a condition in which his nature is ineffable.

Now, it should appear clear that God is not something who is always on a throne tapping his fingers out of boredom. Satan is God. He does things. He takes care of the universe. He has a unique charisma. Etc. This is a God and it is the realistic God, who behaves as a God should behave, as a personal entity, that is, who works to improve himself and does things according to his own nature.

Often the problem is that when we define a "God" we are talking about an uncreated and eternal being (i.e., one who has existed forever), and leaving aside Unitary consciousness, but sticking to what we are talking about: Demons...

...it should be clear that standing on a throne snapping fingers does not make you an "eternal God". Working on your soul and doing good things for yourself and the universe in concrete facts. That makes you a TRUE GOD when you achieve Divine status as a result. No one sits forever listening to angels sing in chorus as if that makes him "a God of laziness and uselessness" (see Yahwhen in John's Revelation,, etc.). BUT being born and using this opportunity to elevate yourself as much as you can with perseverance and commitment: it doesn't just make you a hero, on the third level it makes you a complete God.
 
Я постараюсь объяснить проще, чтобы у вас был ключ к лучшему пониманию сообщения. По крайней мере, я сделаю все возможное.:)

Да, Сатана и Боги не были "рождены" с третьим уровнем Magnum Opus, уже достигнутым по умолчанию. Это потому, что все в жизни должно быть завоевано: достигнуто упорным трудом. И это то, что дает нам честь быть теми, кто мы есть.

У Сатаны есть родители, которые привели его в мир, так же как у вас есть родители, которые привели вас в мир, и именно так это обычно работает для того, как люди приходят в мир. Сатана и Вельзевул, например, являются братьями. Просто в том смысле, что у них есть родители. А Астарта — дочь Сатаны и так далее. Вот как это работает. Но это не умаляет их универсальной силы и уровня. Потому что Божественная концепция, которую продвигают христиане (и которая, как правило, украдена из концепции Единого Сознания, ссылку на которую я вам отправил), не является реальным существом (по крайней мере, с христианской точки зрения), поэтому вы не можете сказать: «Разве христианский Бог не является христианским Богом? Так является ли Сатана христианским Богом?» Нет.

Сатана не является заменой, которую можно поставить вместо церковного архетипа Иисуса Христа. Иисус Христос просто не играет истинно Божественной роли. Сатана воплощает в себе поистине высшие универсальные ценности, которые превосходят все, что можно сказать или помыслить, даже на самых больших уровнях. Но он действительно имеет все заслуги за то, что достиг собственными силами такого состояния, в котором его природа невыразима.

Теперь должно быть ясно, что Бог — это не тот, кто вечно сидит на троне и постукивает пальцами от скуки. Сатана — это Бог. Он творит. Он заботится о вселенной. У него уникальная харизма. И т. д. Это Бог, и это реалистичный Бог, который ведет себя так, как и подобает Богу, как личность, то есть который работает над собой и действует в соответствии со своей собственной природой.

Часто проблема заключается в том, что, когда мы определяем «Бога», мы говорим о несотворенном и вечном существе (т. е. о том, кто существовал вечно), и оставляем в стороне Единое сознание, но придерживаемся того, о чем говорим: Демоны...

...должно быть ясно, что стояние на троне и щелчок пальцами не делает вас «вечным Богом». Работа над своей душой и совершение добрых дел для себя и вселенной в конкретных фактах. Это делает вас ИСТИННЫМ БОГОМ, когда вы в результате достигаете Божественного статуса. Никто не сидит вечно, слушая, как ангелы поют хором, как будто это делает его «богом лени и бесполезности» (см. Яхве в Откровении Иоанна и т. д.). НО рождение и использование этой возможности, чтобы возвысить себя настолько, насколько вы можете, с упорством и преданностью: это не просто делает вас героем, на третьем уровне это делает вас полным Богом.
ТNow I understand, but I still have questions:Where did Satan's father disappear to? If he didn't disappear, then who is he? I just don't remember him being mentioned anywhere.If Satan was not originally omnipotent, and he achieved this, and the same with Satan's father, and Satan's father's father, and so on endlessly, then who was the first god?
 
and the same with Satan's father, and Satan's father's father, and so on endlessly, then who was the first god?

This is a very common logical fallacy of always wanting to find a creator of a creator, a creator of a creator and its creator again and so on. It is recognized as cognitive bias in studies of Logic and Critical Thinking.

The logical fallacy that everything must have a cause, and that each cause in turn needs another cause, is called the "infinite regression" or "first cause problem." This fallacy leads to an infinite chain of causes without ever arriving at a final explanation.

In modern physics, the principle of causality is not absolute. Quantum mechanics shows that some events, such as radioactive decay or the creation of virtual particles in vacuum, do not have a deterministic cause.

There are examples where phenomena have no cause behind them. The Copenhagen interpretation states that quantum phenomena are fundamentally probabilistic and do not need a prior cause.

The double-slit experiment shows that a particle can behave unpredictably without a definite cause.

Quantum vacuum fluctuation implies that particles and antiparticles can appear spontaneously without an antecedent cause.

Now, obviously you don't have to be so detailed to understand that you don't need Satan to be created by another God with genetic engineering to make it true that Satan created us with genetic engineering. It's just to show how something doesn't always have to have a primary creator cause of the thing.

Now though. All this is clearly true from the purely immediate point of view. But reality is not only what you can notice in the immediate. There are deeper things that cannot be noticed. So yes, as much as it is true of "Satan's parents," etc., it is true in the immediate. It would be like saying your mother slapped you because she was angry.

And that's true in theory. But to simply say that is to omit a truth. It's okay for very simple concepts, but it's not okay if you want a higher understanding of the thing. And then you might ask yourself the deeper reasons why something exists (why was your mother angry? Why did she decide to express it with a slap? Is your mother usually violent? This explores dimensions beyond just "she slapped you because she was angry.")

So when we talk about Satan, his Divinity and coming into the universe, referring to it in purely "third dimension" terms is true up to a point because it remains the way we can conceive of a thing, and it is the limit to where many people can conceive of things. But there are things that are beyond what we allow because we cannot conceive of everything:

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The coming in Existence of Supreme Satan and the Rulers of Existence Gods is not by the same frame of existence that you have in your third dimensionality. The dimensions of Satan that He creates and is born in, has no beginning nor end, He was, He is , He will be and this has happened for infinite times. Do you understand what I explain here? There is no inception existent that Satan does not preceeds.

That is why you cannot reason in really trivial terms of "who made Satan if Satan made us?"

These are really complicated concepts, and I myself (of course, I am human too) can have difficulty understanding them. Listen also to the corrections of the HPs and JGs on this.
 
This is a very common logical fallacy of always wanting to find a creator of a creator, a creator of a creator and its creator again and so on. It is recognized as cognitive bias in studies of Logic and Critical Thinking.

The logical fallacy that everything must have a cause, and that each cause in turn needs another cause, is called the "infinite regression" or "first cause problem." This fallacy leads to an infinite chain of causes without ever arriving at a final explanation.

In modern physics, the principle of causality is not absolute. Quantum mechanics shows that some events, such as radioactive decay or the creation of virtual particles in vacuum, do not have a deterministic cause.

There are examples where phenomena have no cause behind them. The Copenhagen interpretation states that quantum phenomena are fundamentally probabilistic and do not need a prior cause.

The double-slit experiment shows that a particle can behave unpredictably without a definite cause.

Quantum vacuum fluctuation implies that particles and antiparticles can appear spontaneously without an antecedent cause.

Now, obviously you don't have to be so detailed to understand that you don't need Satan to be created by another God with genetic engineering to make it true that Satan created us with genetic engineering. It's just to show how something doesn't always have to have a primary creator cause of the thing.

Now though. All this is clearly true from the purely immediate point of view. But reality is not only what you can notice in the immediate. There are deeper things that cannot be noticed. So yes, as much as it is true of "Satan's parents," etc., it is true in the immediate. It would be like saying your mother slapped you because she was angry.

And that's true in theory. But to simply say that is to omit a truth. It's okay for very simple concepts, but it's not okay if you want a higher understanding of the thing. And then you might ask yourself the deeper reasons why something exists (why was your mother angry? Why did she decide to express it with a slap? Is your mother usually violent? This explores dimensions beyond just "she slapped you because she was angry.")

So when we talk about Satan, his Divinity and coming into the universe, referring to it in purely "third dimension" terms is true up to a point because it remains the way we can conceive of a thing, and it is the limit to where many people can conceive of things. But there are things that are beyond what we allow because we cannot conceive of everything:

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That is why you cannot reason in really trivial terms of "who made Satan if Satan made us?"

These are really complicated concepts, and I myself (of course, I am human too) can have difficulty understanding them. Listen also to the corrections of the HPs and JGs on this.
Thank you, I think i get it now
 

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