Help me pls

[Stormblood]

I'm pretty sure any issues between serious dedicated satanists can be resolved with an honest conversation between them. And neither binding nor Baal Zebul's intervention is required so long as people are mature enough to have a serious conversation. If the issue is really that bad you could come to an agreement on some form of compensation. If people are not at all accepting to have a conversation then sure, start taking steps to fix the problem in other ways.

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

There is a rumour going around that there's actually a curse affecting members here, especially those who are more vocal in wanting to provide correct information for everyone like me, Aldrick, HP Zevios Metathronos, and others.

 

[HauptSturm]

My bro dedicated a long time ago but I don't consider him a Zevism. We get into fights all the time. After one fight, he was still mad at me. Destroying my stuff and trying to make my life miserable. I did the affirmation from the "Fighting Back" webpage on JoS. He got what was coming to him. I almost felt bad but I didn't. I do everything for him and then some but he forgets about all the good. Remember that when you go out of your way for someone...

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

I'm pretty sure any issues between serious dedicated satanists can be resolved with an honest conversation between them.

^ This ^

Whenever one of us disagrees with another, we ought to take a deep breath, count to 10, and recite Dahaarkan's sentence before posting a response.

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Binding someone to prevent them from harming you only does what the affirmation states. It doesn't stop them from advancing, it doesn't stop them from doing everything else that do not direcly damage the binder.


For Aldrick, let me explain this to you in an hypotethical fashion. Tweedle is more powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him through underhanded ways, which is the only way she can do that as everything else would bounce off his protection and return to her amplified. Then Pocahontas is bound. If she was bound, she couldn't tell anyone things that damage Tweedle. She cannot think, speak or against him. She wouldn't even realise being bound until her awareness and power have grown beyond Tweedle's level. Then, of course, she could either remove the binding herself or ask Baal Zebul for this and "revenge". But would Baal Zebul give her revenge and undo her binding? Only if she's right and Tweedle is wrong.

Now let's take another hypothesis. Tweedle is less powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him. He tries to bind her and fails, because she's more powerful than him and she can't affect him. Of course, she may go to Baal Zebul or any other God/Goddess that administers justice. But would Baal Zebul help him punish Pocahontas? Only if he's in the right, otherwise he'll face the consequences of being wrong or be laughed off, if the matter is actually of no importance.

So this is part of what Nick explained earlier that anyone with a half a mind can understand since in the end witchcraft is a clash of energies in this cases. The binder's energy against the person you want to bind. This happens for all magick that is done against the other person's will, not just binding and curses.

This lot to explain to you that I haven't tried to bind anything here because there is no reason to bind anyone over conversations, arguments or whatever happens on a forum.

We seek to develop self-reliance. So we only go to the Gods for guidance and advice, and when we can't do things on our own. Everyone here is entitled to ask the help of the Gods, however know that by doing so you might realise you're not in the right or that the matter is more complex than what you believe and think. Self-defence is allowed in a Satanic community, as it's our right to defend ourselves not to turn the other cheek and withstand abuse.

I have nothing more to say on this matter.

Its this way because tampax pad says so. At least now I understand Your name. Whatever he says is automatically right because hes full of himself.

Also Ive been doing Surya since it first came out. One of my Affirmations is My Aura is constantly deflecting and repelling any and all negative energy, Curses, BINDINGS and Destructive energy directed at me and is immediately returning it right back to the Sender. I also do the prayer asking for a demon to help me. So when you TRY to bind me you actually bind yourself. But thats ok right? Im sure its good for you. Also if you think revenge is getting back at people on an online forum, youre more of a child then I thought.

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

I'm pretty sure any issues between serious dedicated satanists can be resolved with an honest conversation between them. And neither binding nor Baal Zebul's intervention is required so long as people are mature enough to have a serious conversation. If the issue is really that bad you could come to an agreement on some form of compensation. If people are not at all accepting to have a conversation then sure, start taking steps to fix the problem in other ways.

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

There is a rumour going around that there's actually a curse affecting members here, especially those who are more vocal in wanting to provide correct information for everyone like me, Aldrick, HP Zevios Metathronos, and others.

I've heard it said as well that it could very well simply be the enemy fucking with us, hitting us with negative energies to sow discontent and infighting. Disunity in the House of Satan is their best chance of victory; they themselves state this.

I have picked up on the hostility Dahaarkan is talking about and it genuinely bums me out. Accomplished Satanists getting shitty with each other, it feels...deflating, in a way. An odd word to use but I feel it best encapsulates this sinking feeling I get when people I regard highly go at each other in such a manner. Regardless, I know that if anyone can come out of a spat with productive results and genuine amends, it's Spiritual Satanists - even if there are flames to endure along the way.

 

[Coraxo]

These childish infightings are getting pretty boring *yawn*.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I'm pretty sure any issues between serious dedicated satanists can be resolved with an honest conversation between them. And neither binding nor Baal Zebul's intervention is required so long as people are mature enough to have a serious conversation. If the issue is really that bad you could come to an agreement on some form of compensation. If people are not at all accepting to have a conversation then sure, start taking steps to fix the problem in other ways.

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

Yeah, this. Exactly. Wise words. What I meant by asking the Gods for help, was in help resolving the issue, but I didn't clarify that as it seemed obvious to me. And this is only about any so-called Zevism who are too far gone and a hazard to others, threatening to expose them or whatever, I didn't mean the Zevism who are capable enough to work things out themselves. Just to clarify

Binding, and expecting the Gods to punish the other Zevism, is flat out retarded. I was actually in literal shock when one Zevism asked me in email if they should bind someone simply because of some posts, and then that same Zevism went and spilled some personal info in a post (I saw it before it was deleted by a mod). Ironic or what... the one who wanted to bind, stated personal info of the very person they wanted to bind.

I doubt all these arguments would happen between us in person. It's just with this being online and people not actually seeing the other person, seeing their body language... some people get offended here too easily and take things too personally.

Also what Aldrick mentioned, about how our AoP's deflect bindings back to the sender, we've been doing this AoP in various forms for years.

Some people's posts need to be corrected if it is actually wrong with misinfo, but other posts need to just be ignored. So instead of taking the time to write paragraphs trying to make yourself seem right and the other person to seem wrong, just do the Ritual instead.

 

[Tala]

I delayed registering because of this reason. I was thinking wow there are a lot of angry people here, lol. I joined anyhow because this just happens anywhere you go in life. We just get the idea when there is a common higher goal or learning involved that people will rise above pettiness and be different somehow.
In addition I wonder if sometimes things get amplified when people are cleaning out there soul issues.

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

I was thinking, when we see all this infighting, the natural emotional response is a desire to leave the forums. But isn't that exactly the wrong response? When we see infighting among others, shouldn't that motivate us to post more often, just to set a better example? This is not just some social website, these are THE forums. If others are acting vicious and bitter, we just need to have more sane posts to make those a minority.

Who knows, maybe enough good behavior in posts will rub off on the more impulsive Satanists and help improve their interaction skills!

 

[Adelos Theomathes]

Necessary or not i will put a simple reminder:

Do not underestimate the importance of void meditation, ability to control your thoughts, emotions and any form of energies is a very basic and necessary step if you really are serious about reaching godhead.
How can you possibly make a beneficial conscious decision if you let your unnecessary felling, emotion etc. decide for you ?
How can you concentrate on moving the mountain with your mind if you let silly thoughts distract you ?

As Coraxo mentioned with powerful enough AoP and clean aura you're basically untouchable, if you reach that level, why should you bother with cursing and binding, if they can't touch you ?

Cursing and binding, are the "last resort" type solution for problems, it all depends on the circumstances.

Being divided because of our personal felling is the last thing we need while WE ARE STILL AT WAR.

We are the only one's right now who can abolish an alien tyranny in earth, if not us, then who ?

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

I sincerely understand people don’t like arguments.

At the same time, it’s important to distinguish between “arguments” and a simple correction of inaccuracies. They’re not the same thing. In fact, the LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE guy is really the one who causes conflict.

I’m dead serious. This meme is the epitome of what SJWs do all the time. It doesn’t really matter what Britney did, under no circumstances are you allowed to point out her rotten behavior and character. The SJW will jump in and tell you to “shut up” and “stop being childish” and “don’t be bothered”.

If you respond to the SJW after they tell you to shut up, they become extremely aggressive and will attempt to undermine you in any way possible, and in the foulest way possible. Then they rally others in the same way. What are you supposed to do then? Keep quiet and let the SJW set the agenda? I personally don’t think so, especially not in the light of the kind of transgressions advocated in this thread (now by at least three people!!!), for one. Keeping quiet in the face of foul character will corrupt our medium for communication and suppress free speech.

Please try and see if you can’t recognize this pattern. It’s an old tactic called the agent provocateur. Don’t let discontent towards arguments turn into discontent towards the truth. They’re not the same. If you do, you might just become the agent provocateur yourself and morph into this guy:

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Necessary or not i will put a simple reminder:

Do not underestimate the importance of void meditation, ability to control your thoughts, emotions and any form of energies is a very basic and necessary step if you really are serious about reaching godhead.
How can you possibly make a beneficial conscious decision if you let your unnecessary felling, emotion etc. decide for you ?
How can you concentrate on moving the mountain with your mind if you let silly thoughts distract you ?

As Coraxo mentioned with powerful enough AoP and clean aura you're basically untouchable, if you reach that level, why should you bother with cursing and binding, if they can't touch you ?

Cursing and binding, are the "last resort" type solution for problems, it all depends on the circumstances.

Being divided because of our personal felling is the last thing we need while WE ARE STILL AT WAR.

We are the only one's right now who can abolish an alien tyranny in earth, if not us, then who ?

Yes this is all True But I wouldnt interject if they were not telling people its okay to curse each other. Others may Believe them. If this makes me egotostical, I dont remember caring to live to someone elses standards.

 

[FancyMancy]

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Read again and see who (you) called whom (me) a retard first. If you've read any of my posts, then you should know I only retaliate after others use ad hominem attacks against me first. If that doesn't make sense, or it does but you are choosing to ignore it, then let me say it this way - use your brain.

Why is convincing people important to you? I share things how I see and understand them (call that an attack if it makes you feel better), as do everyone, yet you decide that I am retarded and that I am trying to convince people. I said something that another member said, yet you have stopped attacking them, have you? Why? You ignored my questions, and asked yours. Why? Ignorance is bliss, is it? Two more things 1) I'm not going to bother reading the remainder of your reply because you're ignorant and:

• because you don't, and
• so

use your brain, and 2) I know you won't answer all...or any...of my questions - including ones which I have repeated, answering them as many times as I asked them. You're not here for discussion; you're here for trolling and arguing, shitting all over the forum. You ignore advice to take it to email instead of shitting all over here, yet you stay shitting all over here, instead. Maybe you're trying to be a comedian.

Whatever you are or aren't, and are or aren't trying to do, at least do do two things - use your brain, and enjoy.

Necessary or not i will put a simple reminder:

Do not underestimate the importance of void meditation, ability to control your thoughts, emotions and any form of energies is a very basic and necessary step if you really are serious about reaching godhead.
How can you possibly make a beneficial conscious decision if you let your unnecessary felling, emotion etc. decide for you ?
How can you concentrate on moving the mountain with your mind if you let silly thoughts distract you ?

I have experience with people who are overly-emotional, hence why I decided to start a thread about it. I don't claim it has all of the answers, but people who have read and replied in it have said they understand why I made the thread, so it helps at least some.

Sarcastically, I love it that people choose to be ignorant. Sincerely, you can't say anything without someone choosing to be offended and choosing to cry.

If you walk on eggshells around particular individuals, then taken too far that is like them having power and control in situations where you can't say anything lest they cry because they choose to be offended by a particular set of words, instead of fixing their overly-emotional state, and that causes people to not want to be around them for very long. Then that makes them worse, bitter, and very lonely or other bad things. People should get over their emotions, be in control of them, and stop thinking with their emotions and instead they should think with their brains.

 

[Coraxo]

Also as for something boring you. I dont recall trying to entertain you. This is a serious offense and will be shown for what it is, wether or not that tickles your fancy. Or in this case your fancy mancy. I really could care less. If you dont think calling this out is important you just become part of the problem. It would be differnt If we were arguing over hair color or something trivial. So in other words keep your whiny cry baby opinions to yourself as they are not needed here.

What is needed is for others to know this is NOT Acceptable. Which I believe is pretty well done now. As they can only come back with insults and nothing of merit. So my work is done. I leave you to find a more entertaining topic for yourselves.

As always, the paranoia kicks in you and you start fighting and insulting everyone as if they were directing their words to you.

My words were general and not directed to anyone specifically. Believe it or not, I don't give one damn about you.

Put your ego aside for a moment and look in a mirror and you'll see that you're a part of the problem.

Now either take my advice or show me your silence, as I don't feel like putting more fuel in this already big fire.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I sincerely understand people don’t like arguments.

At the same time, it’s important to distinguish between “arguments” and a simple correction of inaccuracies. They’re not the same thing. In fact, the LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE guy is really the one who causes conflict.

I’m dead serious. This meme is the epitome of what SJWs do all the time. It doesn’t really matter what Britney did, under no circumstances are you allowed to point out her rotten behavior and character. The SJW will jump in and tell you to “shut up” and “stop being childish” and “don’t be bothered”.

If you respond to the SJW after they tell you to shut up, they become extremely aggressive and will attempt to undermine you in any way possible, and in the foulest way possible. Then they rally others in the same way. What are you supposed to do then? Keep quiet and let the SJW set the agenda? I personally don’t think so, especially not in the light of the kind of transgressions advocated in this thread (now by at least three people!!!), for one. Keeping quiet in the face of foul character will corrupt our medium for communication and suppress free speech.

Please try and see if you can’t recognize this pattern. It’s an old tactic called the agent provocateur. Don’t let discontent towards arguments turn into discontent towards the truth. They’re not the same. If you do, you might just become the agent provocateur yourself and morph into this guy:

Fully agreed. When SJW's think they are right about something, they are angry, harsh and hateful to people they believe are in the wrong. Illogical too.

Which is why I believe some people need to calm down and stop behaving like them. And start being compassionate and understanding with others who need their guidance. Because unlike SJW's, knowledgeable Zevism actually have valid and enlightening things to say, so the anger and hate is not required in their arguments, discussions or corrections.

As for "transgressions advocated"...I'm talking about *how* that information is presented. And how a piece of advice/information presented in certain ways can create a negative outcome. Where the information is rejected because of unnecessary, inflammatory elements added to the statement. It is in fact SJW's who have a habit of filling their arguments with insults and verbal abuse.

You will note that on my first post here I advocated against binding other Zevism or pestering Baal Zebul with issues that can be easily resolved such as a disagreement on the forums. So we're not in disagreement on that matter. Just in how corrections should be worded. And in my opinion, insults are not required to correct someone who has the wrong idea.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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Mate no one is devaluing what you've done here. Stormblood's point of view on binding was wrong and in need of correction. No one here should question whether or not you should have stepped in to correct that bit of misinformation.

I'm talking about whether or not it was necessary to call him stupid and retarded and all that. Yes, it should be obvious and yes, he should know that by now. Still, the necessity to use such terms referring to a valuable Zevism is debatable. Because *those terms* are what invited the following argument that is still dragging on.

I will make the argument that if you had not chosen those particular words for your statements this thread would have been closed a while ago. You claim to be a veteran Zevism with loads of experience. So you know perfectly well that most new and inexperienced Zevism are emotionally unstable, spiritually inept and still growing mentally. Trying to elevate/educate them with harsh statements does not help them at all. You end up pulling at their emotional strings and driving them away.

This does not really apply to this case, by the way. Stormblood is not a noob and he's not going to leave or be demotivated by words on a computer screen. He's much better than that I'm sure.

But others might. And I don't think psycho drill instructor is the best example to give to people. Maybe you have the sight to understand who this can and cannot affect in negative ways. But do those who take example from you see that, or simply dish out the same level of communication on just about anyone?

Then this becomes destructive and drives people away.


I don't have the authority to tell you how to express yourself nor would I want to. Just giving you my point of view. You can exercise your right to freedom of speech in whatever way you like. And you can be harsh with people if you so choose. Enjoy the dragged, tiring and useless back and forth arguments that behavior invites.

Or maybe I have the wrong idea idk

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

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Read again and see who (you) called whom (me) a retard first. If you've read any of my posts, then you should know I only retaliate after others use ad hominem attacks against me first. If that doesn't make sense, or it does but you are choosing to ignore it, then let me say it this way - use your brain.

Why is convincing people important to you? I share things how I see and understand them (call that an attack if it makes you feel better), as do everyone, yet you decide that I am retarded and that I am trying to convince people. I said something that another member said, yet you have stopped attacking them, have you? Why? You ignored my questions, and asked yours. Why? Ignorance is bliss, is it? Two more things 1) I'm not going to bother reading the remainder of your reply because you're ignorant and:

• because you don't, and
• so

use your brain, and 2) I know you won't answer all...or any...of my questions - including ones which I have repeated, answering them as many times as I asked them. You're not here for discussion; you're here for trolling and arguing, shitting all over the forum. You ignore advice to take it to email instead of shitting all over here, yet you stay shitting all over here, instead. Maybe you're trying to be a comedian.

Whatever you are or aren't, and are or aren't trying to do, at least do do two things - use your brain, and enjoy.

Necessary or not i will put a simple reminder:

Do not underestimate the importance of void meditation, ability to control your thoughts, emotions and any form of energies is a very basic and necessary step if you really are serious about reaching godhead.
How can you possibly make a beneficial conscious decision if you let your unnecessary felling, emotion etc. decide for you ?
How can you concentrate on moving the mountain with your mind if you let silly thoughts distract you ?

I have experience with people who are overly-emotional, hence why I decided to start a thread about it. I don't claim it has all of the answers, but people who have read and replied in it have said they understand why I made the thread, so it helps at least some.

Sarcastically, I love it that people choose to be ignorant. Sincerely, you can't say anything without someone choosing to be offended and choosing to cry.

If you walk on eggshells around particular individuals, then taken too far that is like them having power and control in situations where you can't say anything lest they cry because they choose to be offended by a particular set of wordcs, instead of fixing their overly-emotional state, and that causes people to not want to be around them for very long. Then that makes them worse, bitter, and very lonely or other bad things. People should get over their emotions, be in control of them, and stop thinking with their emotions and instead they should think with their brains.

Because you agreed that binding was okay. Now stop playing the victim.

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Also as for something boring you. I dont recall trying to entertain you. This is a serious offense and will be shown for what it is, wether or not that tickles your fancy. Or in this case your fancy mancy. I really could care less. If you dont think calling this out is important you just become part of the problem. It would be differnt If we were arguing over hair color or something trivial. So in other words keep your whiny cry baby opinions to yourself as they are not needed here.

What is needed is for others to know this is NOT Acceptable. Which I believe is pretty well done now. As they can only come back with insults and nothing of merit. So my work is done. I leave you to find a more entertaining topic for yourselves.

As always, the paranoia kicks in you and you start fighting and insulting everyone as if they were directing their words to you.

My words were general and not directed to anyone specifically. Believe it or not, I don't give one damn about you.

Put your ego aside for a moment and look in a mirror and you'll see that you're a part of the problem.

Now either take my advice or show me your silence, as I don't feel like putting more fuel in this already big fire.

If you take what people say and not what they really mean you are a fool. You are playing a passive aggressive game. You came in with dismissive remarks, Then when you get called out on it, you say oh it wasnt against you. When it was but not said directly.

Lets look at why you said it. What do you get from it? Oh yes to come in and act like youre better then everyone. Oh great egoless one, How can we be like you?!

Then when questioned you play innocent. Another revealing remark is show me your silence. A remark that could mean nothing but Dominance. So in other words this is Beta Male Tactics at its finest. See ive had a few girlfriends, So I know how to deal with Little Bitchy Girly boys like you.

Why dont you be a good sport and grab daddy a beer.

 

[Stormblood]

One thing to notice that another source of arguments is that everyone wants to convince someone else that their opinions are correct, as Fancy Mancy pointed out. I realised that has been the case with me as well and that, whether one is right or not, should not push their truth/knowledge/whatever upon other. You tell once, then let it go. Who is well-equipped to understand, will be aware of what you're saying but there is absolutely no need to push it, regardless of how much you care that people learn. Lydia, Coraxo, Fancy Mancy and others helped me learned this by pointing it out in the first place. Whether one is right or not in the end, trying to push something always leads to conflict. Moreover, if you're passionate in expressing yourself, people end up thinking you're bullying them or someone else and focus on the appearances (communication style) instead of going deeper and focusing on the message that is delivered. For the sake of arguing and proving one is right and the other is wrong, some people put words in the mouth of other people and those who don't twist other people's words are found answering to defend their words, etc. This evidently doesn't work and the result is what we see and has been depicted by other members. Then there are also people that, just because someone disagrees with them, they go on a rampage and don't even read the first line of the other people's posts, assuming they are automatically stating the opposite of what they believe in.


Now, this is a community with thousands of people. I realise that arguments and heated discussion happen and are always going to happen because you can't get along with along with everyone. We all have different personalities: some may have similar personalities, other completely opposing ones. What's important is that in the end everyone keeps doing what they came here to do: partaking in the war efforts and advancing themselves. Just because there is some infighting, it doesn't mean that when it matters the most we are not going to be united under the same banner. For example, there is the common trope of the vitriolic best buds: two buddies that are always at odds with each other in daily but when it comes to protect the other buddy's life or the pride of the community they're part of, they're going to be on the same side. In our case, it's not just about any community. Our community is primarily our race but even more than that at this point in history it's the entire human species that we're fighting for.


This is not a pep talk. This is just to highlight other causes of arguments and to show that, regardless of those, we still are working for the same goals. So unity is still intact regardless of the people we like or dislike, agree or disagree, etc.

 

[Coraxo]

Also as for something boring you. I dont recall trying to entertain you. This is a serious offense and will be shown for what it is, wether or not that tickles your fancy. Or in this case your fancy mancy. I really could care less. If you dont think calling this out is important you just become part of the problem. It would be differnt If we were arguing over hair color or something trivial. So in other words keep your whiny cry baby opinions to yourself as they are not needed here.

What is needed is for others to know this is NOT Acceptable. Which I believe is pretty well done now. As they can only come back with insults and nothing of merit. So my work is done. I leave you to find a more entertaining topic for yourselves.

As always, the paranoia kicks in you and you start fighting and insulting everyone as if they were directing their words to you.

My words were general and not directed to anyone specifically. Believe it or not, I don't give one damn about you.

Put your ego aside for a moment and look in a mirror and you'll see that you're a part of the problem.

Now either take my advice or show me your silence, as I don't feel like putting more fuel in this already big fire.

If you take what people say and not what they really mean you are a fool. You are playing a passive aggressive game. You came in with dismissive remarks, Then when you get called out on it, you say oh it wasnt against you. When it was but not said directly.

Lets look at why you said it. What do you get from it? Oh yes to come in and act like youre better then everyone. Oh great egoless one, How can we be like you?!

Then when questioned you play innocent. Another revealing remark is show me your silence. A remark that could mean nothing but Dominance. So in other words this is Beta Male Tactics at its finest. See ive had a few girlfriends, So I know how to deal with Little Bitchy Girly boys like you.

Why dont you be a good sport and grab daddy a beer.

Good job, you just proved my point.

Keep insulting all Zevism here, we'll see where that will get you.

 

[Braun666]

This has gone on too far already. Obviously any Satanist with a rational mind, a pair of brains and a view on the bigger picture here(that we are all in this together, part of the same Satanic vortex once we are dedicated by blood and soul to the cause..) should KNOW beyond any doubt that binding or cursing another Blood dedicated Satanist is inviting untold wrath and sufferance to themselves.

This is stated on the JoS yet people choose to ignore this. Go to Baal Zebul and he will handle these matters, before things escalate.

I would seriously love for an HP or HPS to interject on this matter which seems obvious, with reading the above arguments or what the JoS has to say on this. People might the mistake of following the useful idiot path

 

[Stormblood]

Mate no one is devaluing what you've done here. Stormblood's point of view on binding was wrong and in need of correction.

Of this, you're never going to convince me, as I firmly believe that only applies to people who're morally elevated enough to understand what they're doing and so to never purposefully and heavily harm another Zevism. Unfortunately, I believe we're far from living in Wonderland and when the first occasion comes (for me or everyone else) I believe everyone will behave proportionately, without following rigid dogmas that are nowhere on the JoS website. But I'm done to push it on you guys. Believe what you will.

As for Aldrick, he can keep believing as well whatever he wants. In the end, we know exactly what his level of reading comprehension is, as we can see in the topic Allocentrism and other topics where he argues with people who think it differently. Meaning that every word is wasted on him, as he doesn't actually read any of what anyone else is writing, and instead he keeps rampaging and assuming, coherently with his mental patterns.

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

But if someone is going to say a bunch of shit then act all hotty about it. I see it as my duty to torture this person with their own illogic.

If your goal is to show the illogic of their posts, then why do you employ petty insults to support your position?
Sound arguments can stand on their own.