Help me pls

[Fufotto]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do Rituals or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

 

[Shining Sloth 666]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do Rituals or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Find a printer or an electronic device and do the Final Ritual.
Be creative, find someplace somehow where you can perform it.
If you do it fast it takes roughly 30min.

As for meditation, mantras can easily be slipped in your daily life if you manage a way to control the noise and environment in which you perform mantras.
Also you should look at pranayamas (breathing exercises) and visualization they are still very potent techniques of meditation!

 

[HailMotherLilith]

Do it at night, when they are asleep.

 

[Dark_Void]

You should be able to do the Ritual in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

 

[ess]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do Rituals or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Yes you can.

 

[Stormblood]

This is one of the legitimate cases to rebel. But do it in a smart way. No parents can stop you from meditating or doing Rituals. You just got to be smart about it. If it comes to it, you must bind them. Binding someone is not something negative. It just prevents them from harming you in every way (speech, thoughts, actions). It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-Zevism and Zevism. It's a safeguard.

 

[Fufotto]

Thank you all! I will await when I will have a home without my parents. (their control on me is heavy)

 

[Taol]

You should be able to do the Ritual in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

There are people that dont have those luxurious spaceaus walk in closets.. all they have is a few planks or drawers to put their clean clothes in.

 

[Dark_Void]

You should be able to do the Ritual in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

There are people that dont have those luxurious spaceaus walk in closets.. all they have is a few planks or drawers to put their clean clothes in.

Just have to get creative I guess.

 

[Νίκος]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do Rituals or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Some months ago I have had the same experience with you!Try to meditate in the bathroom ,Try to convince that you think Satanism is a lie such all the other religions(of course you should not believe that ) and ask Satan for guidance and help!Do not summon him just communicate with him by using your third eye !I did that it was successful!It took me about 2 weeks to make them forget it !

 

[LightAlgur]

That reminded me when I first told my parents 4 years ago. Their reaction was the same. At first I just did visualization meditations and yoga. As I got deeper into Zevism I did them at night in my sleep. My vibrations were quiet but still were vibrations. That and I usually put on a movie or something so they couldn't hear me. I can proudly say due to my diligence on meditations, I'm on my own now and have my own place.

My suggestion is, don't give up on meditations no matter where you are and who you are with. They can get you out of a bind. These are gifts without a price. Good luck to you my brother/sister in Satan.

 

[Fufotto]

I think they cannot forget, they six months ago recovered me in psichiatric hospital.

 

[Fufotto]

Thank you all. ^^

 

[luis]

I think the best and the first thing to do is to bind them!

Use the rune ISA, you have to find a place wherte to do your vibration. Don't forget to clean your aura after the working, with a mantra like Surya or a rune like Algiz.
If you have questions about the working and you don't know how to do it, ask here.

My parents for example just know that i do yoga stuff, they know a little bit of the true but not the whole true and this work for them but i must say that they are more open minded than other people...

 

[DiscipleOfSatan]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do Rituals or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

If I were you, I would just tell them that i was looking at the JOS site only from curiosity, and nothing else, and deny that i am a satanist. If they see you doing meditations or Rituals you can just say it's yoga, or buddhist meditations, or whatever. How could they know that it's a satanic meditation, or Ritual?

How did they actually discovered that you are a Satanist? And what did you told them?

 

[Fufotto]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

 

[Stormblood]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

Bind them, then remove all of their connections and influences that derive from the enemies of Satan. By doing the second thing, you would be doing a great service to the Gods, to them and to yourself.

 

[Aquarius]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

that’s abuse, you have rights and they can’t do such thing. Ask the gods if they can help you, but remember you have to do your part, if you are lazy and not actively trying to get out of this situation you’re not going to be helped..

 

[Braun666]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-Zevism and Zevism. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

 

[Stormblood]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-Zevism and Zevism. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Baal Zebul?

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-Zevism and Zevism. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Baal Zebul?

Binding can be considered black magick, it has been for thousands of years. It's an unwanted magickal interference and completely unacceptable.

Anyway, the fact you think you can 'bind' other dedicated Zevism is laughable and very naive. First off, you need to be more powerful than the person you're trying to bind (provided you're working alone). I do recall you only learned like was it six months ago how to do a proper Kundalini Yoga session, which is a very basic thing to get wrong and shows where you're at (or not at). That's just one. Secondly, it will definitely backfire, and if it doesn't you're either a useful idiot (we have them too) or there are other reasons. But it won't go through, the Gods see everything that goes on.

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them. That's pretty basic as well. You do have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but it seems you lack practical experience. Try and get some of that before you post nonsense like this, especially to new members. Practical spiritual experience builds one's character as well.

 

[Braun666]

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Baal Zebul?

Binding can be considered black magick, it has been for thousands of years. It's an unwanted magickal interference and completely unacceptable.

Anyway, the fact you think you can 'bind' other dedicated Zevism is laughable and very naive. First off, you need to be more powerful than the person you're trying to bind (provided you're working alone). I do recall you only learned like was it six months ago how to do a proper Kundalini Yoga session, which is a very basic thing to get wrong and shows where you're at (or not at). That's just one. Secondly, it will definitely backfire, and if it doesn't you're either a useful idiot (we have them too) or there are other reasons. But it won't go through, the Gods see everything that goes on.

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them. That's pretty basic as well. You do have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but it seems you lack practical experience. Try and get some of that before you post nonsense like this, especially to new members. Practical spiritual experience builds one's character as well.

Thanks for the reply. I was going to write something along the same lines.

I cannot put enough emphasis on what you stated that telepathic communication with the gods is not the only means of contact with them.

Also in reality there are many demons that have different rankings and they will see to it that those adamant on binding and/or cursing other Satanists invite their wrath as a whole. We are no longer without, and part of the same vortex those seeking to damage(cursing, binding) the vortex from within, in any way is endangering themselves. Which in my opinion translates to having Demons seeing to it that you are first made aware of the correction needed or punished if there's a serious disregard of ethics, and seeing the bigger picture of our battalion.

I'm saying this as a warning as we are all in this cause together, and binding a comrade is not commendable, and there's NO reason to do so. We have been instructed on the JoS to not throw curses OR bind(very similar in nature), for obvious reasons(The aleph bet curses have done enough damage to us all). If a blood dedicated Satanist is foolish enough to curse, bind or outright seriously attack and fight another blood dedicated Satanist well this might backfire or be felt by said Satanist and his/her guardians will act accordingly to rectify the problem.

Being that the Gods have a lot on their plate, I can see that the wrath one would welcome by such actions would be of greatly malefic proportions especially if said individuals are fully aware of their wrongdoings and ignores the warnings, that are on the website and even the ones that have repeatedly showed up on the forums and egroups by other members.

Most of this can be solved by actually interacting with the gods and Satan, with openness one gets guided to the right thing to do and receives blatant answers. Even now you can & should ask Satan, how he would feel about you binding another Satanist, not just taking my word for it. But with reading the above I figure with common sense, the answer should be obvious and clear.

HAIL SATAN!

 

[Mravojed]

O Lion-Serpent Sun, the beast that whirlest forth
A thunder-bolt, begetter of life
Thou that flowest, thou that goest
Thou Satan-Sun, Hadith, that goest without will
Thou air, breath, spirit, thou without bound or bond
Thou essence, air swift-streaming, elasticity
Thou wanderer, father of all
Thou wanderer, spirit of all
Hear me, and make all spirits subjects unto me
So that every spirit of the firmament and of the ether
Upon the earth and under the earth
On dry land and in the water of whirling air, and of rushing fire
And every spell and scourge of God
May be obedient unto me
Thou spiritual sun, satan, thou eye, thou lust
Cry aloud, cry aloud
Whirl the wheel, oh my father, oh satan, oh sun

 

[Fufotto]

Nice poem

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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There's really no need for all of that. I have no idea where half of what you wrote came from. It seems like you feel persecuted or something. The simple fact is you shouldn't bind other Satanists as you advocated repeatedly. It's outrageous in the extreme. If you write something like that again, I will comment on it. I'm actually going out of my way to be nice to you based on your actions and words. I gave you some good advice, maybe try and chill out and look inward.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

If anybody ever has a problem with another Zevism, ask the Gods for help, and you can put that Zevism on your block list so you don't get triggered by their posts....

...and do more of the Final Ritual, because that helps everything

 

[HailMotherLilith]

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Baal Zebul?

Binding can be considered black magick, it has been for thousands of years. It's an unwanted magickal interference and completely unacceptable.

Anyway, the fact you think you can 'bind' other dedicated Zevism is laughable and very naive. First off, you need to be more powerful than the person you're trying to bind (provided you're working alone). I do recall you only learned like was it six months ago how to do a proper Kundalini Yoga session, which is a very basic thing to get wrong and shows where you're at (or not at). That's just one. Secondly, it will definitely backfire, and if it doesn't you're either a useful idiot (we have them too) or there are other reasons. But it won't go through, the Gods see everything that goes on.

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them. That's pretty basic as well. You do have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but it seems you lack practical experience. Try and get some of that before you post nonsense like this, especially to new members. Practical spiritual experience builds one's character as well.

Just a reminder that a Zevism should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Baal Zebul on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Baal Zebul takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Baal Zebul enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Baal Zebul.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Baal Zebul?

Binding can be considered black magick, it has been for thousands of years. It's an unwanted magickal interference and completely unacceptable.

I can safely say this is not entirely true. I binded my parents when I was like 3 or so months into Zevism......

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them. That's pretty basic as well. You do have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but it seems you lack practical experience. Try and get some of that before you post nonsense like this, especially to new members. Practical spiritual experience builds one's character as well.

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them.

While in some cases this is kinda true, but truthfully, you are mostly wrong here...

Because, 1. you could be expressing yourself to the enemy that has blocked your way of reaching that specific God and you wouldn't even know it, and 2. You would be telling the enemy things you only tell the God to.....

So basically, your telepathic communications should be open, otherwise you'd just spread misinformation....

Look at the HP's for example, they only post truthful and revealing things, sometimes with Gods and etc. Etc.... But the point being.. you are not entirely true..

I personally know Stormblood and I can safely and truthfully tell you that he is an amazing and wonderful Zevism, a hard working too, he has helped me in such way, that no misinformed idiot could..... So please do not slander our Brother in Satan and keep those insults to yourself... or better yet, insult the enemy...

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I'm only here to tell my experience and explain, not to argue.

If you are going to end up attacking me or whatever, you are going to show everyone that you are so lost... it's sad....

Good day and good luck.

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

 

[ess]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Don't fall into her trap.

 

[HailMotherLilith]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Did I ever said anything about binding another Zevism?

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Don't fall into her trap.

Thanks, but I pretty much disabled it before going over it, I think. This served as a way for me to clarify my point, there shouldn't be any misunderstandings left at this point.

 

[Stormblood]

Binding someone to prevent them from harming you only does what the affirmation states. It doesn't stop them from advancing, it doesn't stop them from doing everything else that do not direcly damage the binder.


For Aldrick, let me explain this to you in an hypotethical fashion. Tweedle is more powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him through underhanded ways, which is the only way she can do that as everything else would bounce off his protection and return to her amplified. Then Pocahontas is bound. If she was bound, she couldn't tell anyone things that damage Tweedle. She cannot think, speak or against him. She wouldn't even realise being bound until her awareness and power have grown beyond Tweedle's level. Then, of course, she could either remove the binding herself or ask Baal Zebul for this and "revenge". But would Baal Zebul give her revenge and undo her binding? Only if she's right and Tweedle is wrong.

Now let's take another hypothesis. Tweedle is less powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him. He tries to bind her and fails, because she's more powerful than him and she can't affect him. Of course, she may go to Baal Zebul or any other God/Goddess that administers justice. But would Baal Zebul help him punish Pocahontas? Only if he's in the right, otherwise he'll face the consequences of being wrong or be laughed off, if the matter is actually of no importance.

So this is part of what Nick explained earlier that anyone with a half a mind can understand since in the end witchcraft is a clash of energies in this cases. The binder's energy against the person you want to bind. This happens for all magick that is done against the other person's will, not just binding and curses.

This lot to explain to you that I haven't tried to bind anything here because there is no reason to bind anyone over conversations, arguments or whatever happens on a forum.

We seek to develop self-reliance. So we only go to the Gods for guidance and advice, and when we can't do things on our own. Everyone here is entitled to ask the help of the Gods, however know that by doing so you might realise you're not in the right or that the matter is more complex than what you believe and think. Self-defence is allowed in a Satanic community, as it's our right to defend ourselves not to turn the other cheek and withstand abuse.

I have nothing more to say on this matter.

 

[Fufotto]

How can I bind my parents? What runes I have to use?

 

[Dahaarkan]

I'm pretty sure any issues between serious dedicated satanists can be resolved with an honest conversation between them. And neither binding nor Baal Zebul's intervention is required so long as people are mature enough to have a serious conversation. If the issue is really that bad you could come to an agreement on some form of compensation. If people are not at all accepting to have a conversation then sure, start taking steps to fix the problem in other ways.

One of the reasons I'm not very active here is how vicious and bitter you are to each other. And then people talk of family and unity. What a fucking joke.

Someone is wrong or has a different idea and the responses must have one or two snarky remarks to piss the other guy off. How exactly does that add to the debate or conversation. All it does is derail it into a "no u" fight. Not to mention how unwelcoming and hostile this makes us look. I've been feeling that less questions pop up I wonder why...maybe it's because new people come here and see when someone is corrected they get flamed off the face of the earth.

 

[ess]

How can I bind my parents? What runes I have to use?

Isa used with Gebo is good, or just Isa.