Help me pls

[Fufotto]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do rtrs or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

 

[Shining Sloth 666]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do rtrs or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Find a printer or an electronic device and do the Final RTR.
Be creative, find someplace somehow where you can perform it.
If you do it fast it takes roughly 30min.

As for meditation, mantras can easily be slipped in your daily life if you manage a way to control the noise and environment in which you perform mantras.
Also you should look at pranayamas (breathing exercises) and visualization they are still very potent techniques of meditation!

 

[Dark_Void]

You should be able to do the RTR in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

 

[ess]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do rtrs or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Yes you can.

 

[Stormblood]

This is one of the legitimate cases to rebel. But do it in a smart way. No parents can stop you from meditating or doing RTRs. You just got to be smart about it. If it comes to it, you must bind them. Binding someone is not something negative. It just prevents them from harming you in every way (speech, thoughts, actions). It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-SS and SS. It's a safeguard.

 

[Fufotto]

Thank you all! I will await when I will have a home without my parents. (their control on me is heavy)

 

[Taol]

You should be able to do the RTR in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

There are people that dont have those luxurious spaceaus walk in closets.. all they have is a few planks or drawers to put their clean clothes in.

 

[Dark_Void]

You should be able to do the RTR in your closet to where nobody can hear you. Just cover the crack at the bottom of the door with a blanket or something to help block any sound. The same would be true with mantras. There are also meditations one can do in total silence. You could study the JoS webpage. Or you could get a job and donate money. Or you could do some online activism.

There are people that dont have those luxurious spaceaus walk in closets.. all they have is a few planks or drawers to put their clean clothes in.

Just have to get creative I guess.

 

[Νίκος]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do rtrs or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

Some months ago I have had the same experience with you!Try to meditate in the bathroom ,Try to convince that you think Satanism is a lie such all the other religions(of course you should not believe that ) and ask Satan for guidance and help!Do not summon him just communicate with him by using your third eye !I did that it was successful!It took me about 2 weeks to make them forget it !

 

[LightAlgur]

That reminded me when I first told my parents 4 years ago. Their reaction was the same. At first I just did visualization meditations and yoga. As I got deeper into SS I did them at night in my sleep. My vibrations were quiet but still were vibrations. That and I usually put on a movie or something so they couldn't hear me. I can proudly say due to my diligence on meditations, I'm on my own now and have my own place.

My suggestion is, don't give up on meditations no matter where you are and who you are with. They can get you out of a bind. These are gifts without a price. Good luck to you my brother/sister in Satan.

 

[Fufotto]

I think they cannot forget, they six months ago recovered me in psichiatric hospital.

 

[Fufotto]

Thank you all. ^^

 

[luis]

I think the best and the first thing to do is to bind them!

Use the rune ISA, you have to find a place wherte to do your vibration. Don't forget to clean your aura after the working, with a mantra like Surya or a rune like Algiz.
If you have questions about the working and you don't know how to do it, ask here.

My parents for example just know that i do yoga stuff, they know a little bit of the true but not the whole true and this work for them but i must say that they are more open minded than other people...

 

[DiscipleOfSatan]

My parents discovered I am Satanist, now I can't do rtrs or meditation. How can I help Satan in the war?

If I were you, I would just tell them that i was looking at the JOS site only from curiosity, and nothing else, and deny that i am a satanist. If they see you doing meditations or RTRs you can just say it's yoga, or buddhist meditations, or whatever. How could they know that it's a satanic meditation, or RTR?

How did they actually discovered that you are a Satanist? And what did you told them?

 

[Fufotto]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

 

[Stormblood]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

Bind them, then remove all of their connections and influences that derive from the enemies of Satan. By doing the second thing, you would be doing a great service to the Gods, to them and to yourself.

 

[Aquarius]

I said all about the site, I was out of me. I have been crazy and I said all truth about the Satanism and SATAN. They believed I I went crazy because I have visited jos. I said all truth, after the took me to exorcist and he said yoga is dono to do magic and I can't do yoga because my mother thinks it is satanic. I'm italian and my parents are very obsessed by xianity.

that’s abuse, you have rights and they can’t do such thing. Ask the gods if they can help you, but remember you have to do your part, if you are lazy and not actively trying to get out of this situation you’re not going to be helped..

 

[Braun666]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-SS and SS. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a SS should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Beelzebub on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Beelzebub takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Beelzebub enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Beelzebub.html

 

[Stormblood]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-SS and SS. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a SS should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Beelzebub on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Beelzebub takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Beelzebub enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Beelzebub.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Beelzebub?

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

It's not disrespectful as some people in this community would want to make it sound but it is perfectly reasonable a solution for those who harass you, both non-SS and SS. It's a safeguard.

Just a reminder that a SS should NEVER curse or bind another Spiritual Satanist. Going to Beelzebub on the matter is the way to go.

Quoted from the page linked below: Beelzebub takes care of in-fighting between dedicated Satanists. Satan wants unity and Beelzebub enforces this. He can be very strict as Satan does not approve of dedicated Satanists cursing each other.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Beelzebub.html

Binding is not the same as cursing. It's called self-defense. It's the thing you do when you don't want to hurt someone but just stop them from doing whatever abuse they are doing. Moreover, there are newbies and even people later in the journey who don't have their astral senses open yet to commune with the gods. What do you expect, that they waste their time until they can finally talk to Lord Beelzebub?

Binding can be considered black magick, it has been for thousands of years. It's an unwanted magickal interference and completely unacceptable.

Anyway, the fact you think you can 'bind' other dedicated SS is laughable and very naive. First off, you need to be more powerful than the person you're trying to bind (provided you're working alone). I do recall you only learned like was it six months ago how to do a proper Kundalini Yoga session, which is a very basic thing to get wrong and shows where you're at (or not at). That's just one. Secondly, it will definitely backfire, and if it doesn't you're either a useful idiot (we have them too) or there are other reasons. But it won't go through, the Gods see everything that goes on.

Finally, you don't need to have a verbal telepathic conversation with a God to communicate with them. That's pretty basic as well. You do have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but it seems you lack practical experience. Try and get some of that before you post nonsense like this, especially to new members. Practical spiritual experience builds one's character as well.

 

[Mravojed]

O Lion-Serpent Sun, the beast that whirlest forth
A thunder-bolt, begetter of life
Thou that flowest, thou that goest
Thou Satan-Sun, Hadith, that goest without will
Thou air, breath, spirit, thou without bound or bond
Thou essence, air swift-streaming, elasticity
Thou wanderer, father of all
Thou wanderer, spirit of all
Hear me, and make all spirits subjects unto me
So that every spirit of the firmament and of the ether
Upon the earth and under the earth
On dry land and in the water of whirling air, and of rushing fire
And every spell and scourge of God
May be obedient unto me
Thou spiritual sun, satan, thou eye, thou lust
Cry aloud, cry aloud
Whirl the wheel, oh my father, oh satan, oh sun

 

[Fufotto]

Nice poem

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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There's really no need for all of that. I have no idea where half of what you wrote came from. It seems like you feel persecuted or something. The simple fact is you shouldn't bind other Satanists as you advocated repeatedly. It's outrageous in the extreme. If you write something like that again, I will comment on it. I'm actually going out of my way to be nice to you based on your actions and words. I gave you some good advice, maybe try and chill out and look inward.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The entire concept of a binding is that it binds them, ties them down. Creates limits and blockages that holds them back. Now you can affirm that these blockages and limitations only act in a way that is relatively safe and unimportant to the target, but that doesn't change the fact that you are actively introducing blockages and limitations into their soul. I'm pretty sure most of the biblical curses could be classified as bindings, tower of babel is a perfect example. All the bindings meant to block chakras and remove us from the gods. Saying that curses and bindings are totally different because curses are actively harmful and bindings are just preventing them from causing more harm on one level of understanding makes some sense, but think of these as not only magical but physical and it's more clear what it really does. Obviously you shouldn't go around punching people in the face (curse), but does that somehow make it okay to go around putting handcuffs on people or tying them up (binding)? Neither are really good except for in specific situations where unfortunately it needs to be done, but NEVER AGAINST ANOTHER SATANIST! There really is NO excuse to bind another Satanist, it can't be justified. Anyone who genuinely thinks it's okay to bind a Satanist needs to accept that at the least it's totally ignorant, and at worst it's total bible Yehubor fuckery. Would you like somebody to come into your house and tie you up? Would you do that to a brother? It's called a BINDING for a reason... Also no need to be too oversensitive and take things too personally EVERYONE HERE is doing their best to try to help. Crying and accusing someone of following you around just to purposefully disagree with you and try to tear down your reputation, but if I remember correctly you have done exactly that to Aldrick Strickland in at least a few different threads... :roll: We all can see what help you give, we all are thankful for your insights every day, There isn't anyone trying to mess with your reputation. Do you think your reputation is delicate enough that one person contradicting you would ruin it? Because I and many others have a lot more faith and respect in you than that. But if ANYONE is promoting an untrue and possibly harmful idea, it gets addressed and rectified. Nothing personal, all about the growth and improvement of the group.


To MetaHorror, yes you actually should bind them. It really is a good idea because they aren't Satanist it's okay. This can prevent them from acting against you any more than they already have. At the same time, work on improving your own soul and clearing out all the BINDINGS that were inside you that lead this to happen. This is why we don't bind Satanists, this family trouble is just one way a binding in the soul can manifest. Maybe work on slowly and carefully educating them until they see the truth. You already showed them JOS, I don't really think it would be much worse to show them a few articles from Exposing Christianity.
http://josgreece.angelfire.com/Exposing_Xianity.htm They've been brainwashed for many generations to believe that dumb shit, the only way out of that is to see the Truth on the other side.
Also, just be overall on your best behaviour. They think it's evil, show them that if anything you are actually making improvements instead of being worse. Help them out with whatever work they need done. Show with your actions that being a Satanist is about being a good person and helping the world.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

If anybody ever has a problem with another SS, ask the Gods for help, and you can put that SS on your block list so you don't get triggered by their posts....

...and do more of the Final RTR, because that helps everything

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

The entire concept of a binding is that it binds them, ties them down. Creates limits and blockages that holds them back. Now you can affirm that these blockages and limitations only act in a way that is relatively safe and unimportant to the target, but that doesn't change the fact that you are actively introducing blockages and limitations into their soul. I'm pretty sure most of the biblical curses could be classified as bindings, tower of babel is a perfect example. All the bindings meant to block chakras and remove us from the gods. Saying that curses and bindings are totally different because curses are actively harmful and bindings are just preventing them from causing more harm on one level of understanding makes some sense, but think of these as not only magical but physical and it's more clear what it really does. Obviously you shouldn't go around punching people in the face (curse), but does that somehow make it okay to go around putting handcuffs on people or tying them up (binding)? Neither are really good except for in specific situations where unfortunately it needs to be done, but NEVER AGAINST ANOTHER SATANIST! There really is NO excuse to bind another Satanist, it can't be justified. Anyone who genuinely thinks it's okay to bind a Satanist needs to accept that at the least it's totally ignorant, and at worst it's total bible Yehubor fuckery. Would you like somebody to come into your house and tie you up? Would you do that to a brother? It's called a BINDING for a reason... Also no need to be too oversensitive and take things too personally EVERYONE HERE is doing their best to try to help. Crying and accusing someone of following you around just to purposefully disagree with you and try to tear down your reputation, but if I remember correctly you have done exactly that to Aldrick Strickland in at least a few different threads... :roll: We all can see what help you give, we all are thankful for your insights every day, There isn't anyone trying to mess with your reputation. Do you think your reputation is delicate enough that one person contradicting you would ruin it? Because I and many others have a lot more faith and respect in you than that. But if ANYONE is promoting an untrue and possibly harmful idea, it gets addressed and rectified. Nothing personal, all about the growth and improvement of the group.


To MetaHorror, yes you actually should bind them. It really is a good idea because they aren't Satanist it's okay. This can prevent them from acting against you any more than they already have. At the same time, work on improving your own soul and clearing out all the BINDINGS that were inside you that lead this to happen. This is why we don't bind Satanists, this family trouble is just one way a binding in the soul can manifest. Maybe work on slowly and carefully educating them until they see the truth. You already showed them JOS, I don't really think it would be much worse to show them a few articles from Exposing Christianity.
http://josgreece.angelfire.com/Exposing_Xianity.htm They've been brainwashed for many generations to believe that dumb shit, the only way out of that is to see the Truth on the other side.
Also, just be overall on your best behaviour. They think it's evil, show them that if anything you are actually making improvements instead of being worse. Help them out with whatever work they need done. Show with your actions that being a Satanist is about being a good person and helping the world.

Lol no one should be taking themselves so seriously as to wanting a street rep. If im not pissing people off im not doing my job. But im not mad at stormblood. I was glad that the bickering stopped. I know all about 19 year olds trying to be hardened 50 year old veterans for an online presence. But I like the work he does. But regardless if this starts some baby moma drama between us again, I could not be quiet when someone advocates binding other SS. I have watched SS get fucked up bad for this kinda thing. Beezelbub does not play games.

It pisses me off to think im trying to free my soul and this motherfucker may have been trying to do magick to bind my soul. Like the enemy is not enough. Hey guys lets all bind each other. Come on lets just fuck each others souls up more.

 

[ess]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Don't fall into her trap.

 

[HailMotherLilith]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Did I ever said anything about binding another SS?

 

[Nick Vabzircnila]

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So you don't want to argue but if I challenge the points you make I'm so lost and it's sad?

Someone else already took the "can dish it out but can't take it" position, there is no reason for you to be mimicking the same. The fact you added the dot dot dot so many times just shows you only replied for the sake of drama.

My point here was just that one should never, ever attempt to do binding magick against another Satanist. Wanting to do so shows where one is at in terms of spiritual maturity and feelings of spiritual interconnectedness. One should rather want to die than ever do something that dishonorable. That's why I replied, it's so out of bounds to advocate it that many times. And I'm glad the others addressed it as well.

You do make a fair point about enemy interference in telepathic communications, though. But that can easily be avoided with just doing a summoning through Satan if one can't distinguish between enemy and friendly energies.

Good day and "good luck" to you as well, lol!

Don't fall into her trap.

Thanks, but I pretty much disabled it before going over it, I think. This served as a way for me to clarify my point, there shouldn't be any misunderstandings left at this point.

 

[Stormblood]

Binding someone to prevent them from harming you only does what the affirmation states. It doesn't stop them from advancing, it doesn't stop them from doing everything else that do not direcly damage the binder.


For Aldrick, let me explain this to you in an hypotethical fashion. Tweedle is more powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him through underhanded ways, which is the only way she can do that as everything else would bounce off his protection and return to her amplified. Then Pocahontas is bound. If she was bound, she couldn't tell anyone things that damage Tweedle. She cannot think, speak or against him. She wouldn't even realise being bound until her awareness and power have grown beyond Tweedle's level. Then, of course, she could either remove the binding herself or ask Beelzebub for this and "revenge". But would Beelzebub give her revenge and undo her binding? Only if she's right and Tweedle is wrong.

Now let's take another hypothesis. Tweedle is less powerful than Pocahontas and decides to bind her because she's heavily damaging him. He tries to bind her and fails, because she's more powerful than him and she can't affect him. Of course, she may go to Beelzebub or any other God/Goddess that administers justice. But would Beelzebub help him punish Pocahontas? Only if he's in the right, otherwise he'll face the consequences of being wrong or be laughed off, if the matter is actually of no importance.

So this is part of what Nick explained earlier that anyone with a half a mind can understand since in the end witchcraft is a clash of energies in this cases. The binder's energy against the person you want to bind. This happens for all magick that is done against the other person's will, not just binding and curses.

This lot to explain to you that I haven't tried to bind anything here because there is no reason to bind anyone over conversations, arguments or whatever happens on a forum.

We seek to develop self-reliance. So we only go to the Gods for guidance and advice, and when we can't do things on our own. Everyone here is entitled to ask the help of the Gods, however know that by doing so you might realise you're not in the right or that the matter is more complex than what you believe and think. Self-defence is allowed in a Satanic community, as it's our right to defend ourselves not to turn the other cheek and withstand abuse.

I have nothing more to say on this matter.

 

[ess]

How can I bind my parents? What runes I have to use?

Isa used with Gebo is good, or just Isa.