Amon Ra if He was Police

[Bemot Tenebras]

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

Put some respect on His name.

 

[Helleniser]

There are better ways to portray the Gods.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

There are better ways to portray the Gods.

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

 

[Rroco88]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

Might not cause direct harm, but definitely portrays the Gods in a way that is not fit, which shows lack of respect for their highness.

And Helleniser didn't say it causes harm, like you suggested, just that there are better ways to portray the Gods. And that is totally correct. Try to not take everything personally, for your own sanity.
Have a nice day!
Hail Zevs!

 

[destroyer]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

This isn't even called work
a photo created with artificial intelligence
here's a challenge:
put the sigil of Amon
Ra in front of you, visualize it for a few minutes, then close your eyes and start visualizing it as clearly as possible vibrating its name

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

Nothing Ive done is harmful. And I dont know what taking personally means in that context. If I disagree Im going to present my opinion.

Might not cause direct harm, but definitely portrays the Gods in a way that is not fit, which shows lack of respect for their highness.

And Helleniser didn't say it causes harm, like you suggested, just that there are better ways to portray the Gods. And that is totally correct. Try to not take everything personally, for your own sanity.
Have a nice day!
Hail Zevs!

 

[Persephone [NG]]

From my point of view, the Gods must never be the protagonists of fanboy images or stories! The Gods must be respected as such and this for me is not good taste. There is no need to do something because it "does not cause harm" but the essential thing is to understand the origin of the Gods and the respect they deserve. You can make drawings that reflect their true appearance. The Gods are not actors to be idolized or created fanfiction with.

 

[Emergent13]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Put some respect on His name.

And how exactly is this respectfull
I find this highly offensive
The Gods are not some cartoon character
That you can make jokes about
So yes show some respect
This is not respectfull at all

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

And what is your job exactly?
Running a mock?????
There other respectful ways you could show your interest but not this

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

We

Ganging up on me again like the one time I shared I activated my kundalini in 2016. I love it! Go read my post on the latest Priesthood statement on AI you are going to love it even less! Nothing Ive done is harmful. Like mindless sheep you accept AI being sentient but somehow me doing a playful post praising Amon Ra is disrespectful. Stopping calling yourselves priesthood, you are envoyers of the Gods and messengers you dont deserve the title of priesthood because none of you possess supernatural understanding. I dont mind being the battering ram against the bs. Like a sha

We are all entitled to defend the Gods from mockery
And I don't even know you so your lame ass victim mentality excuse ain't gonna work 2016 I had no idea of this place

 

[OrionKrieger]

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

Tbh there’s nothing here even remotely resembling Amon Ra. It’s just an AI picture of a man in a police vest.

If you want to use AI for such, at least make it creative and make it look like the God you’re trying to portray

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

I forgot you were all against me in the porn discussion aswell. I will enjoy my role as a battering ram here. So its AI, playfull tribute to Amon Ra, and the infamous claim of kundalini activation. Lets see in the end if Im lying or If I was right. If instead of focusing on fantastical claims and trying to descredit my claims of kundalini, you just focused on divine labour you wouldnt be seen as cringe for not deserving priesthood status.

If harbor any old negative emotions from the past that is solely your issue to sort out with yourself
I honestly don't think any of us is gonna be keeping a list of stupid petty arguments of the past
We have all our own lives and all of us here wants personal transformation and advancement spiritually and materially so believe me don't be holding the past up for to long because you yourself will be held back because of it

 

[DaGada]

Bemot I dont think you come with any malice. If anything I believe you shared the image with your form of reverence behind it, which is a lovely thing.

On the flipside, you're not being attacked. Read the messages again. Nobody has called you disgusting or an asshole or anything like that. So have a think on your replies as they are defensive.

Personally, I don't care for the picture and agree with what Emergent said in the pic looks like a female erotica novel cover, hence why I don't like it. Its a twilight or 50 shades of grey feel about it. It's a picture which if I saw hanging in my close friend's room during my teens and twenties would get me teasing him for being a closet gay!

(I have full respect for homosexuals but hopefully you get my point)

I think that's what being communicated by certain others in this thread to you. Maybe it's not been done well but that's likely the point.

Bro I got a lot of love for my fellow Zevists, which means you. However we gotta be able to be to share what we feel, while trying to understand the intent behind replies without mass-tagging everything as an attack.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

Do you honestly believe the Gods would wants there disciples to mindlessly argue
So better find a different topic that shall only be in benefit for yourself and the betterment of our immediate environment

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

Gooner women? Whats wrong with masturbation. You know your comment says alot about yourself.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

I hope the following will help.

Note: Following is my own opinion and understanding, it can be wrong.

The moment I read the title I smiled, both because I saw your pure intentions and because I knew what would happen in the comment section.

To be honest, the replies were very respectful. It seems the fact you got mocked in relation to the kundalini contributed to this.

Saying that you raised the kundalini,especially if you are new, will most likely end in a way that is somehow unpleasant. Not because members are against you. It is just the way it is, and further in my reply it will be explained.

First, I agree no one should be mocked. Even if one is delusional, we should help him out of the situation, not mock him out of it.

Viewing this from another perspective: the members who engage in mocking were one day new members. They did not come down from the sky. So the ones who are rarely mocking or replying dismissively were the same ones who used to complain about it or not like it. Knowing that, it starts looking like something that, at best, WILL happen rarely.

I did not see your thread about kundalini, but I'm pretty sure you have not been mocked by a High Priest. If yes, then that is why they are High Priests and the others aren't, not the only reason, of course. But do not project the High Priest standard onto the average member, especially when you too engage in inappropriate action.

For example, Helleniser was respectful and you told him "do your job." Imagine if he gets unmotivated because of that, because of not being recognized. I agree one should not be that easily influenced, but still, one should take this into consideration. So you have been granted freedom of speech and you did not mind doing that. If you were now an advanced member, you would have done something similar in different clothing, usually toward a new member since they are the safest to do that with.

I can't organize my thoughts; I have a million thoughts and I want to say them all.

The intention behind your thread was normally good. I am pretty sure Amon Ra took that into consideration. But you should always have room for improvement. If you cannot handle being told you are wrong, you can refine the thread instead of posting directly. Post: "Is it okay to depict the Gods in a way that…" and explain. You will be guided, without having to face what you faced.

I agree with the other members, I too disliked the depiction. But who am I to decide what Amon Ra will like? I am past a point in the path that I refuse to inject myself between an initiate and the God. At best, I will tell what I learned from ToZ or maybe from experience, but I will avoid saying "do not do that, do not do that", besides when it's pretty clear to me. From my understanding, and I may be wrong, it seems the Gods have different relationships with members. So it's normal if everyone interacts with them in a different way; it does not necessarily mean one is wrong.

I understand what you did, but you are projecting onto the God. However, I do not yet know if that's appropriate or not. From my understanding, one should stick to how the God showed himself, or how the God showed himself to you. You can draw that, and it's okay if the drawing is not that good since you are aiming in the right direction.

I just remembered something about the mocking. The new members are new born children of Gods. Disrespecting the new members is disrespecting the children of Gods. How can one love the Gods while hating their children? I project the same thing onto the clergy. I consider this a temple. The clergy are working to maintain the temple, the temple of the Gods. So to love the Gods is to make sure to respect the ones maintaining their temple.

Also, I want to say that the Gods do not view us the same way we view each other. One may mock a member or see him lowly, but for some reason that same member may be very dear to the Gods. And disrespecting someone who is more dear to the Gods than you sounds off.

We see that in the GD assigned too. An old member may be assigned a GD who is not high ranked, while a new member may be assigned a high ranking Demon. From the perspective of the one seeing himself as superior, he won't be able to grasp why that "unworthy" member got a high ranking demon while I'm such and such and I do not have a high ranking demon. This alone shatters the illusion that some have, that they can think what a member deserves and who is who.

Considering what you said about masturbation, the member who called the picture "the type of man that female gooners watch" made me laugh, to be honest. First, from what I see, you still view masculinity as being muscular, being intimidating, and having a "masculine gaze," etc. I do not want to use some words to avoid making you feel attacked.

But this is not masculinity. And it's okay that you are viewing it that way; it's just a step on the ladder. Later you will understand that all of the appearance is but an outfit. The energy and consciousness behind it is what should be masculine. It's not about appearance-maxing.

The Divine masculine is beyond that. The appearance may be an expression of the energy behind it, but the appearance should not be the center of this. That's why some said the picture looks basic. And that's why you reacted the way you reacted. You attributed high value to your work since what you see, you are the only one seeing it. While many see just a man standing there; there is no depth to the picture.

I just remembered a line from High Priest Hooded Cobra's thread: "Zeus, in the Iliad, was documented as crying tears of blood over his son, Sarpedon."

This alone shatters this false masculine perception. I encourage you to study that part to get a better grasp on this. Only studying will make you able to depict the Gods in a way that has depth and truth in it. Even if the drawing is off, the aim and intention will purify that, and your drawing will look glowing, especially to you. This is explained for you to get beyond the surface and better understand the Gods.

A member said something about female gooners, and you asked: "Is masturbation bad?"

Past a point, it is not anymore about "is this bad or is this good." Past this point, even the good things may better be avoided by some, and each one walks a different path. For one, drinking a beer may be okay. For an athlete having to compete, he will say it's bad. But it's not bad in the sense that it is bad; it is bad in the sense that it makes one less efficient. So what's bad or good becomes tied to goals and perspective instead of general ethical discussions.

Also, you should learn to not share things that are too personal. I have written some poems and some stuff like that that I will never publish. I will look just like an average joe trying to look like a poet. But the Gods do not view this that way. They judge the intention behind it. They also see that you clearly did your best.

The Gods are so great that all that humans offer is of low quality if we judge by the Gods' standards.

Who can play a flute better than the Gods? So whatever one does, the way he played flute will not "impress the Gods" since they are way above this. So there is no room for making offerings in an arrogant way or mocking other people's offerings. All offerings are as nothing if we see them from the right perspective. But when seen through the lens that shows intention, a simple action may carry deep, innocent, real, beautiful intentions. And that matters most.

Finally, learn to separate how you view things from how the other members view them. And do not think people attribute the same value to the things you attribute value to. And if we take that to the extreme, some may not even feel drawn to the same Gods you feel drawn to. And you cannot make them realise that those Gods are somehow better, since doing that, you too would be wrong. So it's all personal. You need to accept that we all are different, yet are the same.

I want to add one thing about the mocking or the dismissive replies. It requires a minimum level to be able to not engage in that. And since everyone here makes mistakes, and since replying dismissively rarely or mocking rarely is too a mistake, I believe those people too are allowed to make mistakes the same way we all are granted that. Especially that the group of new members, who has in them the ones who faced the dismissive replies, is the same group from where the future ones who will mock will arise. So it's just a part of the path at this point, as long as one does this mistake rarely and improves after.

Since when one improves, he starts mistaking authority and power for misbehaving toward new members. And this in fact is weakness, since one is too weak and cannot in real life even admit to be a Satanist, or even admit he quit religion, and he dares here to act brave in front of a new member who is in fact fighting for the same cause. I am not encouraging you to tell people you are satanist in real life, this you must never do, same for quitting religion.. be safe .. i wanted just to make you aware of it, it will make you treat members better, and the bravery instead of using it to make an unwise choice,such as telling people in real life something that will be harmful.. you should channel that bravery to good actions. AGAIN : BE SAFE!!!!, me too i never do this kind of stuff in real life.. and i saw people have hardships because of doing that, its not smart nor brave to face unnecessary problems..

If one wants to display bravery, display it in donations or helping ToZ or putting in time and hard work to help the forum or the members. It's easy to scroll here and start giving a dismissive reply or mock here and there. And this is not what makes one advanced. And all the real advanced see that, and know.

 

[Persephone [NG]]

I don't think anyone here can tell the clergy what to do, whether you're a black sheep or not. The attitude of always having to be against everything is certainly not positive, but it's a choice and I don't judge it.
The use of artificial intelligence is certainly permitted, but it always depends on how it's used. The fact that you have this hostile attitude tells me that something is wrong, or that you disagree with something: if you believe someone doesn't deserve the role they hold, you can tell the clergy @Priest - Alexandros Iowno, HPS Lydia, and HPHC; they will listen and respond.
I simply told you that I think the image is disrespectful because it has no reference to our God. Free will allows you to think as you please, and I respect that, but disrespect, no. And I'm not saying you're disrespecting me—I don't care if that were the case—but you're disrespecting the Clergy and calling our Priests this: "The 'priesthood' should change their title to Envoys of the Gods or Messengers, since they clearly lack supernatural understanding, and instead should simply embrace being agents of divine work for the establishment and reform of the knowledge of the Gods."

I advise you to reconsider your thinking and behavior. Being a wolf in a wolf forum makes no sense.

 

[Emergent13]

Gooner women? Whats wrong with masturbation. You know your comment says alot about yourself.

As far as I know gooning means excessive masturbation, so obviously it's wrong. Regarding the reference I made, you can find more discussion here in this thread.
Thread 'The Female Pornography Use Epidemic' https://ancient-forums.com/threads/the-female-pornography-use-epidemic.305909/

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I hope the following will help.

Note: Following is my own opinion and understanding, it can be wrong.

The moment I read the title I smiled, both because I saw your pure intentions and because I knew what would happen in the comment section.

To be honest, the replies were very respectful. It seems the fact you got mocked in relation to the kundalini contributed to this.

Saying that you raised the kundalini,especially if you are new, will most likely end in a way that is somehow unpleasant. Not because members are against you. It is just the way it is, and further in my reply it will be explained.

First, I agree no one should be mocked. Even if one is delusional, we should help him out of the situation, not mock him out of it.

Viewing this from another perspective: the members who engage in mocking were one day new members. They did not come down from the sky. So the ones who are rarely mocking or replying dismissively were the same ones who used to complain about it or not like it. Knowing that, it starts looking like something that, at best, WILL happen rarely.

I did not see your thread about kundalini, but I'm pretty sure you have not been mocked by a High Priest. If yes, then that is why they are High Priests and the others aren't, not the only reason, of course. But do not project the High Priest standard onto the average member, especially when you too engage in inappropriate action.

For example, Helleniser was respectful and you told him "do your job." Imagine if he gets unmotivated because of that, because of not being recognized. I agree one should not be that easily influenced, but still, one should take this into consideration. So you have been granted freedom of speech and you did not mind doing that. If you were now an advanced member, you would have done something similar in different clothing, usually toward a new member since they are the safest to do that with.

I can't organize my thoughts; I have a million thoughts and I want to say them all.

The intention behind your thread was normally good. I am pretty sure Amon Ra took that into consideration. But you should always have room for improvement. If you cannot handle being told you are wrong, you can refine the thread instead of posting directly. Post: "Is it okay to depict the Gods in a way that…" and explain. You will be guided, without having to face what you faced.

I agree with the other members, I too disliked the depiction. But who am I to decide what Amon Ra will like? I am past a point in the path that I refuse to inject myself between an initiate and the God. At best, I will tell what I learned from ToZ or maybe from experience, but I will avoid saying "do not do that, do not do that", besides when it's pretty clear to me. From my understanding, and I may be wrong, it seems the Gods have different relationships with members. So it's normal if everyone interacts with them in a different way; it does not necessarily mean one is wrong.

I understand what you did, but you are projecting onto the God. However, I do not yet know if that's appropriate or not. From my understanding, one should stick to how the God showed himself, or how the God showed himself to you. You can draw that, and it's okay if the drawing is not that good since you are aiming in the right direction.

I just remembered something about the mocking. The new members are new born children of Gods. Disrespecting the new members is disrespecting the children of Gods. How can one love the Gods while hating their children? I project the same thing onto the clergy. I consider this a temple. The clergy are working to maintain the temple, the temple of the Gods. So to love the Gods is to make sure to respect the ones maintaining their temple.

Also, I want to say that the Gods do not view us the same way we view each other. One may mock a member or see him lowly, but for some reason that same member may be very dear to the Gods. And disrespecting someone who is more dear to the Gods than you sounds off.

We see that in the GD assigned too. An old member may be assigned a GD who is not high ranked, while a new member may be assigned a high ranking Demon. From the perspective of the one seeing himself as superior, he won't be able to grasp why that "unworthy" member got a high ranking demon while I'm such and such and I do not have a high ranking demon. This alone shatters the illusion that some have, that they can think what a member deserves and who is who.

Considering what you said about masturbation, the member who called the picture "the type of man that female gooners watch" made me laugh, to be honest. First, from what I see, you still view masculinity as being muscular, being intimidating, and having a "masculine gaze," etc. I do not want to use some words to avoid making you feel attacked.

But this is not masculinity. And it's okay that you are viewing it that way; it's just a step on the ladder. Later you will understand that all of the appearance is but an outfit. The energy and consciousness behind it is what should be masculine. It's not about appearance-maxing.

The Divine masculine is beyond that. The appearance may be an expression of the energy behind it, but the appearance should not be the center of this. That's why some said the picture looks basic. And that's why you reacted the way you reacted. You attributed high value to your work since what you see, you are the only one seeing it. While many see just a man standing there; there is no depth to the picture.

I just remembered a line from High Priest Hooded Cobra's thread: "Zeus, in the Iliad, was documented as crying tears of blood over his son, Sarpedon."

This alone shatters this false masculine perception. I encourage you to study that part to get a better grasp on this. Only studying will make you able to depict the Gods in a way that has depth and truth in it. Even if the drawing is off, the aim and intention will purify that, and your drawing will look glowing, especially to you. This is explained for you to get beyond the surface and better understand the Gods.

A member said something about female gooners, and you asked: "Is masturbation bad?"

Past a point, it is not anymore about "is this bad or is this good." Past this point, even the good things may better be avoided by some, and each one walks a different path. For one, drinking a beer may be okay. For an athlete having to compete, he will say it's bad. But it's not bad in the sense that it is bad; it is bad in the sense that it makes one less efficient. So what's bad or good becomes tied to goals and perspective instead of general ethical discussions.

Also, you should learn to not share things that are too personal. I have written some poems and some stuff like that that I will never publish. I will look just like an average joe trying to look like a poet. But the Gods do not view this that way. They judge the intention behind it. They also see that you clearly did your best.

The Gods are so great that all that humans offer is of low quality if we judge by the Gods' standards.

Who can play a flute better than the Gods? So whatever one does, the way he played flute will not "impress the Gods" since they are way above this. So there is no room for making offerings in an arrogant way or mocking other people's offerings. All offerings are as nothing if we see them from the right perspective. But when seen through the lens that shows intention, a simple action may carry deep, innocent, real, beautiful intentions. And that matters most.

Finally, learn to separate how you view things from how the other members view them. And do not think people attribute the same value to the things you attribute value to. And if we take that to the extreme, some may not even feel drawn to the same Gods you feel drawn to. And you cannot make them realise that those Gods are somehow better, since doing that, you too would be wrong. So it's all personal. You need to accept that we all are different, yet are the same.

I want to add one thing about the mocking or the dismissive replies. It requires a minimum level to be able to not engage in that. And since everyone here makes mistakes, and since replying dismissively rarely or mocking rarely is too a mistake, I believe those people too are allowed to make mistakes the same way we all are granted that. Especially that the group of new members, who has in them the ones who faced the dismissive replies, is the same group from where the future ones who will mock will arise. So it's just a part of the path at this point, as long as one does this mistake rarely and improves after.

Since when one improves, he starts mistaking authority and power for misbehaving toward new members. And this in fact is weakness, since one is too weak and cannot in real life even admit to be a Satanist, or even admit he quit religion, and he dares here to act brave in front of a new member who is in fact fighting for the same cause. I am not encouraging you to tell people you are satanist in real life, this you must never do, same for quitting religion.. be safe .. i wanted just to make you aware of it, it will make you treat members better, and the bravery instead of using it to make an unwise choice,such as telling people in real life something that will be harmful.. you should channel that bravery to good actions. AGAIN : BE SAFE!!!!, me too i never do this kind of stuff in real life.. and i saw people have hardships because of doing that, its not smart nor brave to face unnecessary problems..

If one wants to display bravery, display it in donations or helping ToZ or putting in time and hard work to help the forum or the members. It's easy to scroll here and start giving a dismissive reply or mock here and there. And this is not what makes one advanced. And all the real advanced see that, and know.

I never said I raised the kundalini I said I activated it in 2016.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I don't think anyone here can tell the clergy what to do, whether you're a black sheep or not. The attitude of always having to be against everything is certainly not positive, but it's a choice and I don't judge it.
The use of artificial intelligence is certainly permitted, but it always depends on how it's used. The fact that you have this hostile attitude tells me that something is wrong, or that you disagree with something: if you believe someone doesn't deserve the role they hold, you can tell the clergy @Priest - Alexandros Iowno, HPS Lydia, and HPHC; they will listen and respond.
I simply told you that I think the image is disrespectful because it has no reference to our God. Free will allows you to think as you please, and I respect that, but disrespect, no. And I'm not saying you're disrespecting me—I don't care if that were the case—but you're disrespecting the Clergy and calling our Priests this: "The 'priesthood' should change their title to Envoys of the Gods or Messengers, since they clearly lack supernatural understanding, and instead should simply embrace being agents of divine work for the establishment and reform of the knowledge of the Gods."

I advise you to reconsider your thinking and behavior. Being a wolf in a wolf forum makes no sense.

Judging by your response, saying the truth is disrespect to you. And what you quoted from me had a context which was the AI claim which was ridiculous. AI is not sentient, its just massive amounts of Data and algorithms. If you want to swim with sharks dont bleed. Something you can quote from me instead.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I don't see anything artistic about trying to represent a God with an image of a stripper-style model or like the one you have in your profile that looks like a bodybuilder with gynecomastia.

 

[DaGada]

Again I believe Bemot posted the original picture with good and noble intent. And similarly most (if not all) who replied did so with the same intent also.

Feels like we're at a dead end now and theres little point or need to continue this thread.

(That's of course not to say others can't. I don't have the right or ability to dictate that but simply wish to express my thoughts)

Wishing everyone here the best

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I don't see anything artistic about trying to represent a God with an image of a stripper-style model or like the one you have in your profile that looks like a bodybuilder with gynecomastia.

Thats because this particular image makes you feel inferior so you fantasize about this pristine prima donna visual imagery of Gods unkissed and untouched by sexual suggestive imagery. Except none of that is real and instead the Gods are extreme representations of beings who dominate and exert their influence totally upon the desert of the real.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

Judging by your response, saying the truth is disrespect to you. And what you quoted from me had a context which was the AI claim which was ridiculous. AI is not sentient, its just massive amounts of Data and algorithms. If you want to swim with sharks dont bleed. Something you can quote from me instead.

I hope i am not looking here as trying to defend the clergy, Persephone already defended herself and the clergy above, and set the boundries. I do not want to look as using you as a stepping stone.. this reply only risks to make me look less good, i have nothing to gain.. this is humbly my last try explaining to you..

Respectfully, i am not being against you. But. Your perception is completly clouded. I am just pointing it. Not judging you.

Out of context, but:

‘Yes, saying the truth can be disrespectful.’

if you tell someone in the street : ´hi ! You really have an asshole’, this will be disrespect even if it is true. Let’s not discuss that..

you basically will trap yourself, its a set up, the more you persist the worse, try re-reading my reply and understand the perspective i gave you, it may be wrong, but just take a look..

then re-read the thread. And you will look bad only if you persist. No one will view you badly if you learn.. you always have the option to have a good ending. If you do not surpass that, it will just occur again and again either in the forum or in real life, until you learn the lesson. Good luck!

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Stop doing this kind of bs, we are serious people here.

If you want to do these fanboy bs, do them elsewhere.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

All following is a question, not me stating the truth, i am stating what i think, so that i get corrected. And get better understanding of the Gods.

I already stated my personal opinions above. But i am really curious and want to ask from another aspect.

I wish this be clarified by a member, i strongly believe if the picture above make you very connected to Amon Ra it is better to use it rather than use a picture shared by another member. This can be false, i am stating what i think, so that someone corrects me. What is the point of using a better picture if it makes one feel disconnected ? Isn’t in fact the picture made to make the initiate connect to the God better ?

The Gods themselves kind of do that and present themselves in forms initiate can handle. So if the Gods may choose form for benefit of initiate, how can we tell someones using a picture that resonate with him the most that ifs bad ? I am not talking about ‘ if he was a policeman’ part,

this i personally will never do with a God, but i already stated my personal opinion above, now i am formulating a question.. so i think even this it seems its beneficial if at that moment it filled him with joy. I see the problem being that he shared more than that the picture itself is a problem. Its known when one sees the God he may distort the image because of expectations. Is that condemned ?

No because the initiate did their best but their mind distorted. So what happened above is the same phenomena, at worst, his mind is distorting the image, and when he knows more. He will depict more accurately. I do not see the problem anymore in the thread.

I really hope someone can clarify this. Since apparently the closeness to the God is the rule number, if he uses now a better picture and we rub him off the joy and connection he felt with this previous picture, is this worth it ? Is formality worth more than intention and emotion? Or is it the other way around? if i play an advanced music in my phone for a God as an offering, it is lower offering than me poorly playing an instrument. I do not believe Gods clinge to hear recorded music, but rather they appreciate the intention behind action of the initiate. I am really confused on this point. Can someone explain to me?

Basically the above is a mental distortion at worst, in my opinion, given the intention is pure.
Or its even a perfect offering given the intentions behind the action itself.
Aren’t we allowed to depict the Gods in a way that resonates with us the most ?
What do you think about this?

Since if the above is considered wrong only because of depth, and if he depicted in another way from his imagination but that appears glorifying the picture would have been liked.

This will will mean literally that one tells another initiate what a God may or may not like. And from that perspective, even the poor drawing are to be avoided.

Lets be honest, the poor drawings are as bad as the above, knowing that one can just use existing good pictures. But still poor drawing is encouraged.. so either both is good or both is bad..

For the same reason you view the above as ‘it has no depth’, a professional painter will see your drawing as being disrespectful and lacking even intermediate skill..

So are we going here by intention or by our own personal opinions?

The bad drawing is poor skill of hand. The bad depiction above at worst is poor skill of knowledge.

Why we condemn one and praise the other ? Given the fact both are poor?

Professional painter = good painting => praised

Beginner painter = bad painting => praised
( because intention is good)

Professional AI user = good image => praised

Beginner AI user = bad image => condemned
(Even if intention is good)

The way we know a drawing is poor is by the quality of it, the AI draws perfectly, so the image will never bad, so the thing we judge based on it is how much depth and accurate is the image, if one fails on that scale, normally it is okay, same way one drawing fails on the scale we use to rate drawings..
I am really confused

Thank you in advance, all the above is a question, not me stating what i believe.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

Is it all about the depiction if carrying the seed and aiming at the right direction vs pure fantasy? Is that it?

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Thats because this particular image makes you feel inferior so you fantasize about this pristine prima donna visual imagery of Gods unkissed and untouched by sexual suggestive imagery. Except none of that is real and instead the Gods are extreme representations of beings who dominate and exert their influence totally upon the desert of the real.

Do not confuse eroticism, as it was represented in ancient Greece or India, with the Kama Sutra, with degenerate fetishes like bondage, which are an invention of the Yehuborim porn industry.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

I wish this be clarified by a member, i strongly believe if the picture above make you very connected to Amon Ra it is better to use it rather than use a picture shared by another member.

No, because that is not what Amon Ra looks like. Amon Ra has long blond hair, this picture does not.

A picture someone generates online is not going to connect anyone to a God, because the picture is not of the God.

To connect to the Gods, read the new Awareness meditations by our High Priest, and use the sigils of the Gods for connection.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

No, because that is not what Amon Ra looks like. Amon Ra has long blond hair, this picture does not.

A picture someone generates online is not going to connect anyone to a God, because the picture is not of the God.

To connect to the Gods, read the new Awareness meditations by our High Priest, and use the sigils of the Gods for connection.

Got it. Thank You High Priestess

 

[Carnifex Law]

Do not confuse eroticism, as it was represented in ancient Greece or India, with the Kama Sutra, with degenerate fetishes like bondage, which are an invention of the Yehuborim porn industry.

No one said anything about fetishes. They banned me, this is my account which I already mentioned in the past I gained access too in the forum transition. I was banned in this account I believe in 2019 aswell which is a recurring theme. I believe at the time I was banned for racism, I also mentioned in 2020 that there are realms of pain and that the Goddess Sirchade runs torture rings for wretched people who are enemies of the Gods. It seems to really be a recurring theme of me going against the wave in these Forums, you cant even see the names of Gods like Sirchade in the website anymore. They have been removed. That being said I applaud the ministry for reforming and elevating the name of Gods in this world.

 

[Gladius]

Old painters depicted gods with weapons too...
I think the problem here is the phrase "as a police"
Because police officers are just people and Amon Ra is a god.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

No one said anything about fetishes. They banned me, this is my account which I already mentioned in the past I gained access too in the forum transition. I was banned in this account I believe in 2019 aswell which is a recurring theme. I believe at the time I was banned for racism, I also mentioned in 2020 that there are realms of pain and that the Goddess Sirchade runs torture rings for wretched people who are enemies of the Gods. It seems to really be a recurring theme of me going against the wave in these Forums, you cant even see the names of Gods like Sirchade in the website anymore. They have been removed. That being said I applaud the ministry for reforming and elevating the name of Gods in this world.

Although I can't find that lesser Daemons section, I remember it mentioning that Sirchade is male. It seems you're influenced by corrupt occultism outside of ToZ.

 

[Carnifex Law]

Although I can't find that lesser Daemons section, I remember it mentioning that Sirchade is male. It seems you're influenced by corrupt occultism outside of ToZ.

The claim of Sirchade being female is my own. I do not care for contemporary occultists although sometimes they provide truthful information. To give you an example the sigil of Pruflas was made public in 2019 and is a real sigil pertaining to this God.

 

[Satanic Love]

So you have been here since 2017, and this is what you do? What a disgrace.

The Gods are not to be dragged into "meme vibes." These are GODS. If you were a Muslim, you wouldn't dare do this to Allah, not because it's right, but because you'd be fear programmed into "respect." And now that the Gods are actually friendly to you, this is how you show gratitude?

The friendliness of the Gods is not a license to disrespect them. If you can't respect without fear, you haven't learned respect at all.

What you did here is literally the enemy's work. You are making our religion look like a joke. You are programming people to see our Gods as less than they are. We are serious here. Our relationship with the Gods is reverence. If every member started pulling this bullshit, the entire forum would become a circus. Grow up and learn some manners.

You clearly have a tendency to disrespect. Members corrected you, and you disrespected them too. What did you expect? Applause? You want people to encourage you to depict the Gods in the lowest possible way? You didn't even try to make it good.

Being the "black sheep" in some Christian family might make you feel special. Being a "black sheep" in a forum full of people actually walking the Left Hand Path toward truth? That's not rebellion. That's just being wrong.

You are not some cool rebellious figure. This isn't fantasy land, wake up. You are a victim playing a role, addicted to being ganged up on. You trigger it. You seem to like it. You push people until they react harshly, and then you act wounded.

I checked your post about kundalini. Here is how you treated people who defended you:

"These two (gold wings, and every match) might be actual Yehuborim taking advantage of the situation. Be mindful of that and avoid lumping me into this organised effort."

Im thinking of making a youtube video telling my story since kundalini awakening, you think its too dangerous? I was thinking to start next year.

Ive been pondering this

ancient-forums.com

You called the people defending you trolls. But when you mess up, when you disrespect the Gods, and when you disrespect other members, suddenly you're soft, suddenly we're all being mean to you?

Fix your double standards. Stop acting soft.

Seriously. Grow up. Stop being addicted to playing the victim. Everyone here is rebellious. We are all walking the Left Hand Path. Do not think you are special just because you annoy people.

Study ToZ. Advance. And stop this bullshit behavior.

 

[Carnifex Law]

So you have been here since 2017, and this is what you do? What a disgrace.

The Gods are not to be dragged into "meme vibes." These are GODS. If you were a Muslim, you wouldn't dare do this to Allah, not because it's right, but because you'd be fear programmed into "respect." And now that the Gods are actually friendly to you, this is how you show gratitude?

The friendliness of the Gods is not a license to disrespect them. If you can't respect without fear, you haven't learned respect at all.

What you did here is literally the enemy's work. You are making our religion look like a joke. You are programming people to see our Gods as less than they are. We are serious here. Our relationship with the Gods is reverence. If every member started pulling this bullshit, the entire forum would become a circus. Grow up and learn some manners.

You clearly have a tendency to disrespect. Members corrected you, and you disrespected them too. What did you expect? Applause? You want people to encourage you to depict the Gods in the lowest possible way? You didn't even try to make it good.

Being the "black sheep" in some Christian family might make you feel special. Being a "black sheep" in a forum full of people actually walking the Left Hand Path toward truth? That's not rebellion. That's just being wrong.

You are not some cool rebellious figure. This isn't fantasy land, wake up. You are a victim playing a role, addicted to being ganged up on. You trigger it. You seem to like it. You push people until they react harshly, and then you act wounded.

I checked your post about kundalini. Here is how you treated people who defended you:

"These two (gold wings, and every match) might be actual Yehuborim taking advantage of the situation. Be mindful of that and avoid lumping me into this organised effort."

Im thinking of making a youtube video telling my story since kundalini awakening, you think its too dangerous? I was thinking to start next year.

Ive been pondering this

ancient-forums.com

You called the people defending you trolls. But when you mess up, when you disrespect the Gods, and when you disrespect other members, suddenly you're soft, suddenly we're all being mean to you?

Fix your double standards. Stop acting soft.

Seriously. Grow up. Stop being addicted to playing the victim. Everyone here is rebellious. We are all walking the Left Hand Path. Do not think you are special just because you annoy people.

Study ToZ. Advance. And stop this bullshit behavior.

I didnt disrespect the Gods. Lumping everything into memetics is intelectual dishonesty, thats not what was done here. And Ive been with the Gods before 2017. 2017 is the year the forums migrated the first time from the phbpp forums. Which is why there are a few accounts from the same day 2017. I also donate and do the honoring rituals religiously. I just got banned from criticising the ministry so I have to hold back on my response on why I got banned multiple times.

 

[Satanic Love]

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What triggered me is the fact you complain because you get mocked yet you labeled two members :Yehuborim, and felt entitled to do that. I will balance my previous reply with this one. I feel i exagerated in the previous one.

If you want us to talk in a very basic level, of one who knows nothing and joined yesterday, ‘yes you did not disrespect the Gods’. And yes you are good and you did nothing wrong, its normal for a newbie to rant. Completely understandable.

You are an old member, by consequence, i expect more from you.

If you want me to talk to you based on the fact that you are an old member. From a high understanding. You did act inappropriately towards our religion, by acting in an inappropriate way in the temple and disrespecting everyone here.

There are two things which must be understood.

When we say Temple of Zeus, it is not only the clergy, it is all the members. Thats the first thing.

We all make the Temple of Zeus, we are all part of it. No one should view himself as excluded or less important, whatever happens. there is a Hierarchy, but still everyone is a member, a child of Gods. there is an invisible and visible link, linking all of us.

The second thing is, respect of the Gods is not only about relationship between you and them. It touches every aspect of your life. And it certainly has a lot to do with being respectful in their temple, to your brothers and sisters.

Read this thread of Priest Alexandros Lowno:

Thread 'Your Relationship with the Temple: The Truth'
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/your-relationship-with-the-temple-the-truth.306520/

When the Clergy tells someone to stop a specific behavior, he complies. Thats perfect.

Satan literally said : ‘It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them’.

Do you think its normal to comply when the clergy step in, and to ignore what Satan said?

How can you Love Satan without taking his desire seriously? Can’t you even be respectful? He did not ask for some crazy sacrifice.

Read again :

‘It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them’ -Shaitan

This was the most important part of the message. The following is mostly bs compared to what was stated above.

So now you talk about intellectual honesty?

When you called the only two members who came to your defense "might be Yehuborim" that was acceptable to you? For the sake of your own reputation, you were willing to sacrifice theirs?

You would rather paint your defenders as enemy infiltrators than risk being associated with them? That is not self-preservation. That is self-sabotage dressed as survival instinct.

Let me be absolutely clear: your contributions to this forum, your donations, your claimed level in Zevism, none of it ever entitles you to disrespect.

If anything, the opposite is true. The more one advances, the more I expect basic decency. The more one donates, the more I expect alignment between that care for ToZ and how you treat the people inside it. You cannot claim to love the Temple while disrespecting the members. Or even worse, thinking to be entitled of inappropriate behavior. That’s a strict No.

Now let’s move on to the next point.

There are two ways to attack a religion. Make the Gods look terrifying, or make them look unserious. Yours was the latter. We understood your intentions were not malicious, that is why members corrected you instead of condemning you. But correction requires reception. You gave none. You gave disrespect instead.

You follow a pattern. I do not know its clinical name. Perhaps Stockholm syndrome, you bite those who heal you.

Your kundalini thread:

-Members mocked and disrespected you.

-Only two members came to your defense.

-What did you do? Thank them? No.

-You accused them of possibly being Yehuborim. Of using your situation to gain reputation.

-Who do you think you are? You were in a losing position. They protected you for nothing. And you repaid them with suspicion.

You complain about being mocked and disrespected, yet you do the same to those who shield you. How did they react? They ignored you.

And here is something worth noticing: the members who mocked you in that thread, and you yourself, you both share something. You both only seemed to improve only when clergy make you know your mistake. The mockers realised their mistake after clergy addressed it. You became respectful only after they made you know.

Given the techniques in ToZ, you both should start being self aware enough to realise your mistakes and improve on your own, it is not a necessity for Clergy to step in each time for such lowly matters.

In This thread:

-Clergy defended you in the kundalini thread.

-In this thread, you disrespected them anyway.

Everyone who tries to guide you gets burned. It is like watching a bad omen follow anyone who gets too close.

But I want you to notice something:

Through all of this, no one called you Yehuborim. Not once. You threw that accusation at your defenders before. They simply absorbed it and walked away.

You crossed a line there. You have not yet earned back the ground you lost.

Something to reflect on.

Now let’s forget all the above. I am glad and happy that you have clearly improved.

This message is bs. The important is what i stated above.

Even my previous reply is bs compared to the starting of this message.

If you want to be treated as a newbie, I will consider your behavior normal for one just learning, but I expect more from you. You are an old member, you should act accordingly, you should improve and take yourself more seriously. There is only one way to get a good reputation here: it is to advance and to help the others advance.

There is no other way. And also, everyone has his life, do not think that we are all here looking at you and knowing every single mistake you did. After posting this, I will forget about it and move on. And I will be very happy when I see that you improve. Do not think that I will, each time I see you, think that you did this or that. We all make mistakes.

Forget even about everything I said against you, it’s all bs. I just hope you understand what I said about respect; it will help you a lot in the forum, in your real life, and in your practice. Keep in mind that Gods are watching and they value improvement. And members already stated above that we all know your intentions are good.

May the Gods bless you.