Amon Ra if He was Police

[Bemot Tenebras]

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

Put some respect on His name.

 

[Helleniser]

There are better ways to portray the Gods.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

There are better ways to portray the Gods.

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

 

[Rroco88]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

Might not cause direct harm, but definitely portrays the Gods in a way that is not fit, which shows lack of respect for their highness.

And Helleniser didn't say it causes harm, like you suggested, just that there are better ways to portray the Gods. And that is totally correct. Try to not take everything personally, for your own sanity.
Have a nice day!
Hail Zevs!

 

[destroyer]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

This isn't even called work
a photo created with artificial intelligence
here's a challenge:
put the sigil of Amon
Ra in front of you, visualize it for a few minutes, then close your eyes and start visualizing it as clearly as possible vibrating its name

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

Nothing Ive done is harmful. And I dont know what taking personally means in that context. If I disagree Im going to present my opinion.

Might not cause direct harm, but definitely portrays the Gods in a way that is not fit, which shows lack of respect for their highness.

And Helleniser didn't say it causes harm, like you suggested, just that there are better ways to portray the Gods. And that is totally correct. Try to not take everything personally, for your own sanity.
Have a nice day!
Hail Zevs!

 

[Persephone [NG]]

From my point of view, the Gods must never be the protagonists of fanboy images or stories! The Gods must be respected as such and this for me is not good taste. There is no need to do something because it "does not cause harm" but the essential thing is to understand the origin of the Gods and the respect they deserve. You can make drawings that reflect their true appearance. The Gods are not actors to be idolized or created fanfiction with.

 

[Emergent13]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Put some respect on His name.

And how exactly is this respectfull
I find this highly offensive
The Gods are not some cartoon character
That you can make jokes about
So yes show some respect
This is not respectfull at all

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Im not priesthood, a little fanboyism behaviour is not gonna cause any harm. Focus on doing your job, Im doing mine.

And what is your job exactly?
Running a mock?????
There other respectful ways you could show your interest but not this

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

We

Ganging up on me again like the one time I shared I activated my kundalini in 2016. I love it! Go read my post on the latest Priesthood statement on AI you are going to love it even less! Nothing Ive done is harmful. Like mindless sheep you accept AI being sentient but somehow me doing a playful post praising Amon Ra is disrespectful. Stopping calling yourselves priesthood, you are envoyers of the Gods and messengers you dont deserve the title of priesthood because none of you possess supernatural understanding. I dont mind being the battering ram against the bs. Like a sha

We are all entitled to defend the Gods from mockery
And I don't even know you so your lame ass victim mentality excuse ain't gonna work 2016 I had no idea of this place

 

[OrionKrieger]

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

Tbh there’s nothing here even remotely resembling Amon Ra. It’s just an AI picture of a man in a police vest.

If you want to use AI for such, at least make it creative and make it look like the God you’re trying to portray

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

I forgot you were all against me in the porn discussion aswell. I will enjoy my role as a battering ram here. So its AI, playfull tribute to Amon Ra, and the infamous claim of kundalini activation. Lets see in the end if Im lying or If I was right. If instead of focusing on fantastical claims and trying to descredit my claims of kundalini, you just focused on divine labour you wouldnt be seen as cringe for not deserving priesthood status.

If harbor any old negative emotions from the past that is solely your issue to sort out with yourself
I honestly don't think any of us is gonna be keeping a list of stupid petty arguments of the past
We have all our own lives and all of us here wants personal transformation and advancement spiritually and materially so believe me don't be holding the past up for to long because you yourself will be held back because of it

 

[DaGada]

Bemot I dont think you come with any malice. If anything I believe you shared the image with your form of reverence behind it, which is a lovely thing.

On the flipside, you're not being attacked. Read the messages again. Nobody has called you disgusting or an asshole or anything like that. So have a think on your replies as they are defensive.

Personally, I don't care for the picture and agree with what Emergent said in the pic looks like a female erotica novel cover, hence why I don't like it. Its a twilight or 50 shades of grey feel about it. It's a picture which if I saw hanging in my close friend's room during my teens and twenties would get me teasing him for being a closet gay!

(I have full respect for homosexuals but hopefully you get my point)

I think that's what being communicated by certain others in this thread to you. Maybe it's not been done well but that's likely the point.

Bro I got a lot of love for my fellow Zevists, which means you. However we gotta be able to be to share what we feel, while trying to understand the intent behind replies without mass-tagging everything as an attack.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

There is no depth to this image? Show me an image of a man with depth I want to analyse something you have no grasp of real.

Do you honestly believe the Gods would wants there disciples to mindlessly argue
So better find a different topic that shall only be in benefit for yourself and the betterment of our immediate environment

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I mean, I think others are right to call you out because what is that thing even? There is no depth or anything. It looks like it's a character from one of those gooner women fiction books.

Gooner women? Whats wrong with masturbation. You know your comment says alot about yourself.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

I hope the following will help.

Note: Following is my own opinion and understanding, it can be wrong.

The moment I read the title I smiled, both because I saw your pure intentions and because I knew what would happen in the comment section.

To be honest, the replies were very respectful. It seems the fact you got mocked in relation to the kundalini contributed to this.

Saying that you raised the kundalini,especially if you are new, will most likely end in a way that is somehow unpleasant. Not because members are against you. It is just the way it is, and further in my reply it will be explained.

First, I agree no one should be mocked. Even if one is delusional, we should help him out of the situation, not mock him out of it.

Viewing this from another perspective: the members who engage in mocking were one day new members. They did not come down from the sky. So the ones who are rarely mocking or replying dismissively were the same ones who used to complain about it or not like it. Knowing that, it starts looking like something that, at best, WILL happen rarely.

I did not see your thread about kundalini, but I'm pretty sure you have not been mocked by a High Priest. If yes, then that is why they are High Priests and the others aren't, not the only reason, of course. But do not project the High Priest standard onto the average member, especially when you too engage in inappropriate action.

For example, Helleniser was respectful and you told him "do your job." Imagine if he gets unmotivated because of that, because of not being recognized. I agree one should not be that easily influenced, but still, one should take this into consideration. So you have been granted freedom of speech and you did not mind doing that. If you were now an advanced member, you would have done something similar in different clothing, usually toward a new member since they are the safest to do that with.

I can't organize my thoughts; I have a million thoughts and I want to say them all.

The intention behind your thread was normally good. I am pretty sure Amon Ra took that into consideration. But you should always have room for improvement. If you cannot handle being told you are wrong, you can refine the thread instead of posting directly. Post: "Is it okay to depict the Gods in a way that…" and explain. You will be guided, without having to face what you faced.

I agree with the other members, I too disliked the depiction. But who am I to decide what Amon Ra will like? I am past a point in the path that I refuse to inject myself between an initiate and the God. At best, I will tell what I learned from ToZ or maybe from experience, but I will avoid saying "do not do that, do not do that", besides when it's pretty clear to me. From my understanding, and I may be wrong, it seems the Gods have different relationships with members. So it's normal if everyone interacts with them in a different way; it does not necessarily mean one is wrong.

I understand what you did, but you are projecting onto the God. However, I do not yet know if that's appropriate or not. From my understanding, one should stick to how the God showed himself, or how the God showed himself to you. You can draw that, and it's okay if the drawing is not that good since you are aiming in the right direction.

I just remembered something about the mocking. The new members are new born children of Gods. Disrespecting the new members is disrespecting the children of Gods. How can one love the Gods while hating their children? I project the same thing onto the clergy. I consider this a temple. The clergy are working to maintain the temple, the temple of the Gods. So to love the Gods is to make sure to respect the ones maintaining their temple.

Also, I want to say that the Gods do not view us the same way we view each other. One may mock a member or see him lowly, but for some reason that same member may be very dear to the Gods. And disrespecting someone who is more dear to the Gods than you sounds off.

We see that in the GD assigned too. An old member may be assigned a GD who is not high ranked, while a new member may be assigned a high ranking Demon. From the perspective of the one seeing himself as superior, he won't be able to grasp why that "unworthy" member got a high ranking demon while I'm such and such and I do not have a high ranking demon. This alone shatters the illusion that some have, that they can think what a member deserves and who is who.

Considering what you said about masturbation, the member who called the picture "the type of man that female gooners watch" made me laugh, to be honest. First, from what I see, you still view masculinity as being muscular, being intimidating, and having a "masculine gaze," etc. I do not want to use some words to avoid making you feel attacked.

But this is not masculinity. And it's okay that you are viewing it that way; it's just a step on the ladder. Later you will understand that all of the appearance is but an outfit. The energy and consciousness behind it is what should be masculine. It's not about appearance-maxing.

The Divine masculine is beyond that. The appearance may be an expression of the energy behind it, but the appearance should not be the center of this. That's why some said the picture looks basic. And that's why you reacted the way you reacted. You attributed high value to your work since what you see, you are the only one seeing it. While many see just a man standing there; there is no depth to the picture.

I just remembered a line from High Priest Hooded Cobra's thread: "Zeus, in the Iliad, was documented as crying tears of blood over his son, Sarpedon."

This alone shatters this false masculine perception. I encourage you to study that part to get a better grasp on this. Only studying will make you able to depict the Gods in a way that has depth and truth in it. Even if the drawing is off, the aim and intention will purify that, and your drawing will look glowing, especially to you. This is explained for you to get beyond the surface and better understand the Gods.

A member said something about female gooners, and you asked: "Is masturbation bad?"

Past a point, it is not anymore about "is this bad or is this good." Past this point, even the good things may better be avoided by some, and each one walks a different path. For one, drinking a beer may be okay. For an athlete having to compete, he will say it's bad. But it's not bad in the sense that it is bad; it is bad in the sense that it makes one less efficient. So what's bad or good becomes tied to goals and perspective instead of general ethical discussions.

Also, you should learn to not share things that are too personal. I have written some poems and some stuff like that that I will never publish. I will look just like an average joe trying to look like a poet. But the Gods do not view this that way. They judge the intention behind it. They also see that you clearly did your best.

The Gods are so great that all that humans offer is of low quality if we judge by the Gods' standards.

Who can play a flute better than the Gods? So whatever one does, the way he played flute will not "impress the Gods" since they are way above this. So there is no room for making offerings in an arrogant way or mocking other people's offerings. All offerings are as nothing if we see them from the right perspective. But when seen through the lens that shows intention, a simple action may carry deep, innocent, real, beautiful intentions. And that matters most.

Finally, learn to separate how you view things from how the other members view them. And do not think people attribute the same value to the things you attribute value to. And if we take that to the extreme, some may not even feel drawn to the same Gods you feel drawn to. And you cannot make them realise that those Gods are somehow better, since doing that, you too would be wrong. So it's all personal. You need to accept that we all are different, yet are the same.

I want to add one thing about the mocking or the dismissive replies. It requires a minimum level to be able to not engage in that. And since everyone here makes mistakes, and since replying dismissively rarely or mocking rarely is too a mistake, I believe those people too are allowed to make mistakes the same way we all are granted that. Especially that the group of new members, who has in them the ones who faced the dismissive replies, is the same group from where the future ones who will mock will arise. So it's just a part of the path at this point, as long as one does this mistake rarely and improves after.

Since when one improves, he starts mistaking authority and power for misbehaving toward new members. And this in fact is weakness, since one is too weak and cannot in real life even admit to be a Satanist, or even admit he quit religion, and he dares here to act brave in front of a new member who is in fact fighting for the same cause. I am not encouraging you to tell people you are satanist in real life, this you must never do, same for quitting religion.. be safe .. i wanted just to make you aware of it, it will make you treat members better, and the bravery instead of using it to make an unwise choice,such as telling people in real life something that will be harmful.. you should channel that bravery to good actions. AGAIN : BE SAFE!!!!, me too i never do this kind of stuff in real life.. and i saw people have hardships because of doing that, its not smart nor brave to face unnecessary problems..

If one wants to display bravery, display it in donations or helping ToZ or putting in time and hard work to help the forum or the members. It's easy to scroll here and start giving a dismissive reply or mock here and there. And this is not what makes one advanced. And all the real advanced see that, and know.

 

[Persephone [NG]]

I don't think anyone here can tell the clergy what to do, whether you're a black sheep or not. The attitude of always having to be against everything is certainly not positive, but it's a choice and I don't judge it.
The use of artificial intelligence is certainly permitted, but it always depends on how it's used. The fact that you have this hostile attitude tells me that something is wrong, or that you disagree with something: if you believe someone doesn't deserve the role they hold, you can tell the clergy @Priest - Alexandros Iowno, HPS Lydia, and HPHC; they will listen and respond.
I simply told you that I think the image is disrespectful because it has no reference to our God. Free will allows you to think as you please, and I respect that, but disrespect, no. And I'm not saying you're disrespecting me—I don't care if that were the case—but you're disrespecting the Clergy and calling our Priests this: "The 'priesthood' should change their title to Envoys of the Gods or Messengers, since they clearly lack supernatural understanding, and instead should simply embrace being agents of divine work for the establishment and reform of the knowledge of the Gods."

I advise you to reconsider your thinking and behavior. Being a wolf in a wolf forum makes no sense.

 

[Emergent13]

Gooner women? Whats wrong with masturbation. You know your comment says alot about yourself.

As far as I know gooning means excessive masturbation, so obviously it's wrong. Regarding the reference I made, you can find more discussion here in this thread.
Thread 'The Female Pornography Use Epidemic' https://ancient-forums.com/threads/the-female-pornography-use-epidemic.305909/

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I hope the following will help.

Note: Following is my own opinion and understanding, it can be wrong.

The moment I read the title I smiled, both because I saw your pure intentions and because I knew what would happen in the comment section.

To be honest, the replies were very respectful. It seems the fact you got mocked in relation to the kundalini contributed to this.

Saying that you raised the kundalini,especially if you are new, will most likely end in a way that is somehow unpleasant. Not because members are against you. It is just the way it is, and further in my reply it will be explained.

First, I agree no one should be mocked. Even if one is delusional, we should help him out of the situation, not mock him out of it.

Viewing this from another perspective: the members who engage in mocking were one day new members. They did not come down from the sky. So the ones who are rarely mocking or replying dismissively were the same ones who used to complain about it or not like it. Knowing that, it starts looking like something that, at best, WILL happen rarely.

I did not see your thread about kundalini, but I'm pretty sure you have not been mocked by a High Priest. If yes, then that is why they are High Priests and the others aren't, not the only reason, of course. But do not project the High Priest standard onto the average member, especially when you too engage in inappropriate action.

For example, Helleniser was respectful and you told him "do your job." Imagine if he gets unmotivated because of that, because of not being recognized. I agree one should not be that easily influenced, but still, one should take this into consideration. So you have been granted freedom of speech and you did not mind doing that. If you were now an advanced member, you would have done something similar in different clothing, usually toward a new member since they are the safest to do that with.

I can't organize my thoughts; I have a million thoughts and I want to say them all.

The intention behind your thread was normally good. I am pretty sure Amon Ra took that into consideration. But you should always have room for improvement. If you cannot handle being told you are wrong, you can refine the thread instead of posting directly. Post: "Is it okay to depict the Gods in a way that…" and explain. You will be guided, without having to face what you faced.

I agree with the other members, I too disliked the depiction. But who am I to decide what Amon Ra will like? I am past a point in the path that I refuse to inject myself between an initiate and the God. At best, I will tell what I learned from ToZ or maybe from experience, but I will avoid saying "do not do that, do not do that", besides when it's pretty clear to me. From my understanding, and I may be wrong, it seems the Gods have different relationships with members. So it's normal if everyone interacts with them in a different way; it does not necessarily mean one is wrong.

I understand what you did, but you are projecting onto the God. However, I do not yet know if that's appropriate or not. From my understanding, one should stick to how the God showed himself, or how the God showed himself to you. You can draw that, and it's okay if the drawing is not that good since you are aiming in the right direction.

I just remembered something about the mocking. The new members are new born children of Gods. Disrespecting the new members is disrespecting the children of Gods. How can one love the Gods while hating their children? I project the same thing onto the clergy. I consider this a temple. The clergy are working to maintain the temple, the temple of the Gods. So to love the Gods is to make sure to respect the ones maintaining their temple.

Also, I want to say that the Gods do not view us the same way we view each other. One may mock a member or see him lowly, but for some reason that same member may be very dear to the Gods. And disrespecting someone who is more dear to the Gods than you sounds off.

We see that in the GD assigned too. An old member may be assigned a GD who is not high ranked, while a new member may be assigned a high ranking Demon. From the perspective of the one seeing himself as superior, he won't be able to grasp why that "unworthy" member got a high ranking demon while I'm such and such and I do not have a high ranking demon. This alone shatters the illusion that some have, that they can think what a member deserves and who is who.

Considering what you said about masturbation, the member who called the picture "the type of man that female gooners watch" made me laugh, to be honest. First, from what I see, you still view masculinity as being muscular, being intimidating, and having a "masculine gaze," etc. I do not want to use some words to avoid making you feel attacked.

But this is not masculinity. And it's okay that you are viewing it that way; it's just a step on the ladder. Later you will understand that all of the appearance is but an outfit. The energy and consciousness behind it is what should be masculine. It's not about appearance-maxing.

The Divine masculine is beyond that. The appearance may be an expression of the energy behind it, but the appearance should not be the center of this. That's why some said the picture looks basic. And that's why you reacted the way you reacted. You attributed high value to your work since what you see, you are the only one seeing it. While many see just a man standing there; there is no depth to the picture.

I just remembered a line from High Priest Hooded Cobra's thread: "Zeus, in the Iliad, was documented as crying tears of blood over his son, Sarpedon."

This alone shatters this false masculine perception. I encourage you to study that part to get a better grasp on this. Only studying will make you able to depict the Gods in a way that has depth and truth in it. Even if the drawing is off, the aim and intention will purify that, and your drawing will look glowing, especially to you. This is explained for you to get beyond the surface and better understand the Gods.

A member said something about female gooners, and you asked: "Is masturbation bad?"

Past a point, it is not anymore about "is this bad or is this good." Past this point, even the good things may better be avoided by some, and each one walks a different path. For one, drinking a beer may be okay. For an athlete having to compete, he will say it's bad. But it's not bad in the sense that it is bad; it is bad in the sense that it makes one less efficient. So what's bad or good becomes tied to goals and perspective instead of general ethical discussions.

Also, you should learn to not share things that are too personal. I have written some poems and some stuff like that that I will never publish. I will look just like an average joe trying to look like a poet. But the Gods do not view this that way. They judge the intention behind it. They also see that you clearly did your best.

The Gods are so great that all that humans offer is of low quality if we judge by the Gods' standards.

Who can play a flute better than the Gods? So whatever one does, the way he played flute will not "impress the Gods" since they are way above this. So there is no room for making offerings in an arrogant way or mocking other people's offerings. All offerings are as nothing if we see them from the right perspective. But when seen through the lens that shows intention, a simple action may carry deep, innocent, real, beautiful intentions. And that matters most.

Finally, learn to separate how you view things from how the other members view them. And do not think people attribute the same value to the things you attribute value to. And if we take that to the extreme, some may not even feel drawn to the same Gods you feel drawn to. And you cannot make them realise that those Gods are somehow better, since doing that, you too would be wrong. So it's all personal. You need to accept that we all are different, yet are the same.

I want to add one thing about the mocking or the dismissive replies. It requires a minimum level to be able to not engage in that. And since everyone here makes mistakes, and since replying dismissively rarely or mocking rarely is too a mistake, I believe those people too are allowed to make mistakes the same way we all are granted that. Especially that the group of new members, who has in them the ones who faced the dismissive replies, is the same group from where the future ones who will mock will arise. So it's just a part of the path at this point, as long as one does this mistake rarely and improves after.

Since when one improves, he starts mistaking authority and power for misbehaving toward new members. And this in fact is weakness, since one is too weak and cannot in real life even admit to be a Satanist, or even admit he quit religion, and he dares here to act brave in front of a new member who is in fact fighting for the same cause. I am not encouraging you to tell people you are satanist in real life, this you must never do, same for quitting religion.. be safe .. i wanted just to make you aware of it, it will make you treat members better, and the bravery instead of using it to make an unwise choice,such as telling people in real life something that will be harmful.. you should channel that bravery to good actions. AGAIN : BE SAFE!!!!, me too i never do this kind of stuff in real life.. and i saw people have hardships because of doing that, its not smart nor brave to face unnecessary problems..

If one wants to display bravery, display it in donations or helping ToZ or putting in time and hard work to help the forum or the members. It's easy to scroll here and start giving a dismissive reply or mock here and there. And this is not what makes one advanced. And all the real advanced see that, and know.

I never said I raised the kundalini I said I activated it in 2016.

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I don't think anyone here can tell the clergy what to do, whether you're a black sheep or not. The attitude of always having to be against everything is certainly not positive, but it's a choice and I don't judge it.
The use of artificial intelligence is certainly permitted, but it always depends on how it's used. The fact that you have this hostile attitude tells me that something is wrong, or that you disagree with something: if you believe someone doesn't deserve the role they hold, you can tell the clergy @Priest - Alexandros Iowno, HPS Lydia, and HPHC; they will listen and respond.
I simply told you that I think the image is disrespectful because it has no reference to our God. Free will allows you to think as you please, and I respect that, but disrespect, no. And I'm not saying you're disrespecting me—I don't care if that were the case—but you're disrespecting the Clergy and calling our Priests this: "The 'priesthood' should change their title to Envoys of the Gods or Messengers, since they clearly lack supernatural understanding, and instead should simply embrace being agents of divine work for the establishment and reform of the knowledge of the Gods."

I advise you to reconsider your thinking and behavior. Being a wolf in a wolf forum makes no sense.

Judging by your response, saying the truth is disrespect to you. And what you quoted from me had a context which was the AI claim which was ridiculous. AI is not sentient, its just massive amounts of Data and algorithms. If you want to swim with sharks dont bleed. Something you can quote from me instead.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I don't see anything artistic about trying to represent a God with an image of a stripper-style model or like the one you have in your profile that looks like a bodybuilder with gynecomastia.

 

[DaGada]

Again I believe Bemot posted the original picture with good and noble intent. And similarly most (if not all) who replied did so with the same intent also.

Feels like we're at a dead end now and theres little point or need to continue this thread.

(That's of course not to say others can't. I don't have the right or ability to dictate that but simply wish to express my thoughts)

Wishing everyone here the best

 

[Bemot Tenebras]

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I don't see anything artistic about trying to represent a God with an image of a stripper-style model or like the one you have in your profile that looks like a bodybuilder with gynecomastia.

Thats because this particular image makes you feel inferior so you fantasize about this pristine prima donna visual imagery of Gods unkissed and untouched by sexual suggestive imagery. Except none of that is real and instead the Gods are extreme representations of beings who dominate and exert their influence totally upon the desert of the real.

 

[ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΣ]

Judging by your response, saying the truth is disrespect to you. And what you quoted from me had a context which was the AI claim which was ridiculous. AI is not sentient, its just massive amounts of Data and algorithms. If you want to swim with sharks dont bleed. Something you can quote from me instead.

I hope i am not looking here as trying to defend the clergy, Persephone already defended herself and the clergy above, and set the boundries. I do not want to look as using you as a stepping stone.. this reply only risks to make me look less good, i have nothing to gain.. this is humbly my last try explaining to you..

Respectfully, i am not being against you. But. Your perception is completly clouded. I am just pointing it. Not judging you.

Out of context, but:

‘Yes, saying the truth can be disrespectful.’

if you tell someone in the street : ´hi ! You really have an asshole’, this will be disrespect even if it is true. Let’s not discuss that..

you basically will trap yourself, its a set up, the more you persist the worse, try re-reading my reply and understand the perspective i gave you, it may be wrong, but just take a look..

then re-read the thread. And you will look bad only if you persist. No one will view you badly if you learn.. you always have the option to have a good ending. If you do not surpass that, it will just occur again and again either in the forum or in real life, until you learn the lesson. Good luck!