Workings #80779 Working to breakup with my girlfriend

[Ask Satya Operator]

If I breakup with her she will k*ll herself.

What is the most seamless way to do it with magick?

The problem is her psychology. I don't know how to let her down easy and breaking up with her directly will definitely go badly...

 

[Vrana]

Hello. I was in a similar situation. But in my case, my boyfriend was threatening to kill himself if I broke up with him.
I prayed to Lady Astarte for help with this issue, and half an hour later, he sent me a text saying he wanted to break up, that he realized what he had done and that it wasn't right. You can maybe ask Her for help too.

 

[Eudora]

Hello. I was in a similar situation. But in my case, my boyfriend was threatening to kill himself if I broke up with him.
I prayed to Lady Astarte for help with this issue, and half an hour later, he sent me a text saying he wanted to break up, that he realized what he had done and that it wasn't right. You can maybe ask Her for help too

I agree with my colleague. Ask the Gods for help in this case so that it is resolved in the best possible way.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

If I breakup with her she will k*ll herself.

What is the most seamless way to do it with magick?

The problem is her psychology. I don't know how to let her down easy and breaking up with her directly will definitely go badly...

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

In addition to the above advice by Vrana, tell her parents and anyone else about her threats. Have them put her on suicide watch. She is not your responsibility, her parents and family are responsible for her. This will also take the weight off you.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

This makes no sense. And if someone wants to break up, why would they go against their own nature by pretending all this? This is against authenticity and is a giant waste of time and energy. Not to mention a complete mental warp.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

This makes no sense. And if someone wants to break up, why would they go against their own nature by pretending all this? This is against authenticity and a giant waste of time and energy. Not to mention a complete mental warp.

It works

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

It works

Worst advice, for a Zevist. Telling a Zevist to play mental mindwarp games and go against our Inner Truth? Are you even in tune with Zevism and spirituality?

And no it doesn't always work. A person threatening suicide will probably want that type of needy boyfriend.

 

[Black Magic]

You can try bound spell, and also as Vrana alredy said - Queen Astarte could really help u with that, as an alternative you can ask help to King Paimon, those Gods specialize in interpersonal relationships

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

I am disgusted by your advice. This goes against advancement, against bettering oneself, which is what Zevism is supposed to be about.

A Zevist should be a beacon of light, not of poison.

Your reply gets the oven reaction from me, for giving poisonous "advice".

All the resources for magick we have, and instead of suggesting to the OP to use magick to break up, or anything sane, you come up with this garbage? Oven.

 

[Black Magic]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

These actions could backfire, things might get even worse

 

[Tethys333]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

I think it’s just harmful. It’s clear that if one person wants to commit suicide if the other breaks up with them, that person is mentally ill. You have to heal from a relationship like that, not make the person’s mental state worse. I’m sure it would lead to exhaustion. It’s a matter of self-respect.

 

[Henu the Great]

You can try bound spell, and also as Vrana alredy said - Queen Astarte could really help u with that, as an alternative you can ask help to King Paimon, those Gods specialize in interpersonal relationships

Binding does not make much sense in this case, but an aura of repulsion spell does.

 

[Arcadia [NG]]

It works

Yeah, no, it doesn't. In all likelihood, the partner develops an even more toxic obsession from the lovebombing and the inevitable fallout becomes a thousandfold worse. This isn't a Hollywood romcom. This is a gravely serious matter. HPS Lydia's advice is the best course of action. Explain the situation to the parents, and have them decide on the next course of action depending on how authentic they think their daughter's threats are.

The best thing one can do in this situation is inform who you can and them make space. Don't contact them, stay at a distance, cut the cord. Block them on your socials if you must. If they ever cared about their partner, they should understand that playing games and lingering around is the wrong thing to do by them. And besides, this isn't even factoring in the emotional toll it would take on the boyfriend.

Please have maturity. Love and hate are tightly intertwined and people can do very, very stupid things.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

No real man in his right mind would waste his time doing this toxicity. I'm not sure what kind of bitter and hateful phase you seem to be going through, but you need to meditate and read our Ethics.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Worst advice, for a Zevist. Telling a Zevist to play mental mindwarp games and go against our Inner Truth? Are you even in tune with Zevism and spirituality?

And no it doesn't always work. A person threatening suicide will probably want that type of needy boyfriend.

First of all as High Priestess, you can disagree with something I said and not just go ahead and doubt my Zevism or say I’m not spiritual. If you are wiser you can give me advice not just blind rage and hate. I’m actually disappointed in your judgement and going for just blind rage and childish gestures like oven or whatever.

I gave this advice because I see it all the time and it works. I’m a Zevist not a God and certainly not a beacon of light or whatever I’m not perfect like that.

This reply seems to have got you super emotional, maybe you experienced something similar in the past and that’s why you are lashing out so hard on a member who has proved loyalty and has been here for years and done tons of rituals and even was close to you at some point and looked for your consultations before.

 

[Asra]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

This is so immature it doesn't even need counterarguments spelled out for it. Besides, someone who does this never even liked their ex partner in the first place. But even if there wasn't love involved, mind games and power struggles with someone who's likely to kill themselves is simply a bad idea.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

If I breakup with her she will k*ll herself.

What is the most seamless way to do it with magick?

The problem is her psychology. I don't know how to let her down easy and breaking up with her directly will definitely go badly...

Do a binding with in an affirmation part in it which is positive, healthy and beneficial for both of you.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

Then proceed with sane reasonable steps, explanations getting things clear, with patience and smart moving towards direction. Binding should work in favour of this.

 

[the_eye_of_anubis]

Make her hate you lol.

Make her leave you, not you the one that leaves.

Watch how to lose a guy in 10 days but adapted for the male version lol.

Be creative. Don’t be cruel, because she might love you more lol. Love her so much that she loses attraction, be needy, be jealous, etc etc.

Brother, this piece of advice is really toxic.

why would he behave in such a way and damage even more someone who is clearly already in a bad mental situation?

The best thing to do here is to tell the parents of the person about all the suicide threats and asking the Gods for help. The OP has no responsibilities about his girlfriend's mental state and life, acting like "the guy who loves more" can only create more attachment and worsen it all.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

You can try casting a repulsion spell on her aura. If the situation is very serious and she is a minor, speak with her parents or guardian.
If she is an adult, you can also speak with the appropriate authorities and explain the situation and that she is facing serious problems.

 

[Asra]

I dont want to be negative. But, if OP applies the good advice here (asks the Gods for help, informs her parents and authorities, has a humane talk with her, blocks all means of interaction) and she still kills herself, he should know it's not his fault. Some people are mentally ill, don't do anything to get help or try to be better, don't see a therapist, don't take their meds, use relationships to escape real life, and can't be saved. He shouldn't stay in a toxic relationship to appease someone or keep them alive - it would turn his life into catering for someone else.

He could read this (it focuses on addiction, but makes sense for a lot of situations): https://ancient-forums.com/threads/...ayal-learn-to-love-yourself-and-leave.306916/

 

[Aquarius]

It works

"it works"

There's better ways to address a High Priestess taking the time to explain you something.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

"it works"
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There's better ways to address a High Priestess taking the time to explain you something.

And who assigned you as the community lawyer when you’re reply is just low-quality trolling to look cool and make me look bad?

You’re not adding shit here gtfo

 

[tyrantmage]

May I suggest this working: https://templeofzeus.org/Detaching.php
Altho that might be for advanced people. Another method you can do which work pretty well for me in the past is to visualize the connections as strings wrapped or tethered around you amd the other person, now visualize those strungs burning and getting cut, similar to how a yarn is cut when you light one part of it on fire but this time the fire cuts the spiritual strings and not only cuts it but the fire actually continue to burn and consume the strings similar when you light up a wick or fuse, the string gets vaporized both ways until it reaches your soul and the other persons soul tyat the strings becomes completely gone, I read this method many years ago in the JOS and used it but I can't find it anymore. And as the strings dissapear you affirm:
"(name) is now completely and permanently detached and disconnected from me mentally emotionally spiritually and physically and in every way in a very positive and healthy way for me"

I hope this helps.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Brother, this piece of advice is really toxic.

why would he behave in such a way and damage even more someone who is clearly already in a bad mental situation?

The best thing to do here is to tell the parents of the person about all the suicide threats and asking the Gods for help. The OP has no responsibilities about his girlfriend's mental state and life, acting like "the guy who loves more" can only create more attachment and worsen it all.

My main point was just to push her to leave him first. Not having to leave her. This can be done in multitude of ways, what I said were just some ideas. To basically make her fall out of love.

The main reason I said anything was because I had a friend who was in the same situation with a Russian girl who did actually attempt suicide for him and after he tried to make her fall out of love she left and they moved on.

Now everyone wants to shit on me.

And of course because the HPS hated on me first, the rest of the trolls like Aquarius here will join in.

 

[Henu the Great]

First of all as High Priestess, you can disagree with something I said and not just go ahead and doubt my Zevism or say I’m not spiritual. If you are wiser you can give me advice not just blind rage and hate. I’m actually disappointed in your judgement and going for just blind rage and childish gestures like oven or whatever.

I gave this advice because I see it all the time and it works. I’m a Zevist not a God and certainly not a beacon of light or whatever I’m not perfect like that.

This reply seems to have got you super emotional, maybe you experienced something similar in the past and that’s why you are lashing out so hard on a member who has proved loyalty and has been here for years and done tons of rituals and even was close to you at some point and looked for your consultations before.

You presented an andrapoda approach, and wonder about the backlash. Come on. You can do better.

 

[Aquarius]

My main point was just to push her to leave him first. Not having to leave her. This can be done in multitude of ways, what I said were just some ideas. To basically make her fall out of love.

The main reason I said anything was because I had a friend who was in the same situation with a Russian girl who did actually attempt suicide for him and after he tried to make her fall out of love she left and they moved on.

Now everyone wants to shit on me.

And of course because the HPS hated on me first, the rest of the trolls like Aquarius here will join in.

Bad Aquarius he teaches how to have respect for a superior.

 

[Tethys333]

First of all as High Priestess, you can disagree with something I said and not just go ahead and doubt my Zevism or say I’m not spiritual. If you are wiser you can give me advice not just blind rage and hate. I’m actually disappointed in your judgement and going for just blind rage and childish gestures like oven or whatever.

I gave this advice because I see it all the time and it works. I’m a Zevist not a God and certainly not a beacon of light or whatever I’m not perfect like that.

This reply seems to have got you super emotional, maybe you experienced something similar in the past and that’s why you are lashing out so hard on a member who has proved loyalty and has been here for years and done tons of rituals and even was close to you at some point and looked for your consultations before.

Just because you’ve seen this advice and it worked doesn’t mean it’s right.
I don’t know who followed it, but basically I can say they don’t have much self-respect.
You deal with a threat by cutting ties with the person, not by making the situation worse.

This is a situation that’s already troubling the person asking the question, which is why they posted anonymously on the forums, so it’s only right that they receive better advice that can truly free their soul and mind from this burden.
Never take anything lightly; often these situations can worsen drastically, and the consequences are obvious.

It is Zevist ethics. If you are going to help, you must do it well, taking care of a brother or sister.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@MercuryWisdom
I think the expectation that Clergy should be expressionless beings who shouldn't have any passion in their reactions stems from a Yehuboric expectation.

What HPS Lydia said was right; you only don't like the way she said it.

I understand you feel attacked, but calling other Zevists trolls and patronizing our High Priestess is not right.

You made a mistake. By not admitting to your mistake, you're making another.

 

[Aquarius]

And who assigned you as the community lawyer when you’re reply is just low-quality trolling to look cool and make me look bad?

You’re not adding shit here gtfo

I don't care about your r/mgtowredpill advice, but HPS Lydia is not your "bro", my reply was to that, not to the stupid advice you gave.

 

[Asra]

Man.. If that reply seemed furious and hateful to you you've had 0 contact with hate or rage before. Or have had too much and now you're extra sensitive. And you say HPS is being emotional over this? Come on.

 

[Arcadia [NG]]

This reply seems to have got you super emotional, maybe you experienced something similar in the past and that’s why you are lashing out so hard on a member who has proved loyalty and has been here for years and done tons of rituals and even was close to you at some point and looked for your consultations before.

I am going to be polite here. Your initial advice came off as toxic manosphere nonsense, and you followed through all but brushing off High Priestess Lydia as, what, being an overly emotional hysterical woman or something? Putting it plainly, I'm beginning to think you need to evaluate your perception of women. That's the first thing. Second, have some respect for clergy. There's going to be an emotive reaction if the sort of advice you give can potentially result in the ruination of someone's life, regardless of whatever anecdotal evidence you have of it "working."

You could have just conceded the point, instead of choosing hostility towards High Priestess. And no, this is not just me "shitting on you". You're a long term member, as you have clearly said, and this is not the trajectory that you want to go down.

 

[Asra]

Now everyone wants to shit on me.

Also no one is hating on you. You attack people who earned their titles, so others defend them. That's natural. It keeps systems in order. You wouldnt have gotten bad feedback if for example you disagreed with them or criticized them constructively. But insulting someone crosses a line, and you did it publicly, so you're going to get public reactions. And now we're all disrespecting OP by turning his important question into a lecture.

 

[Stormblood]

First of all as High Priestess, you can disagree with something I said and not just go ahead and doubt my Zevism or say I’m not spiritual. If you are wiser you can give me advice not just blind rage and hate. I’m actually disappointed in your judgement and going for just blind rage and childish gestures like oven or whatever.

I gave this advice because I see it all the time and it works. I’m a Zevist not a God and certainly not a beacon of light or whatever I’m not perfect like that.

This reply seems to have got you super emotional, maybe you experienced something similar in the past and that’s why you are lashing out so hard on a member who has proved loyalty and has been here for years and done tons of rituals and even was close to you at some point and looked for your consultations before.

Pardon my French here, but this is a load of bs.

High Priestess Lydia did not attack you: she pointed out something you'd understand clearly, had you read and internalised our Ethics section. All your so-called "advice" here directly contradicts many of portions of our Ethics, not to mention borders on Atibilibil in social form rather than religious form.

Do you understand that Zevism is about becoming a Theophoros first and foremost, before becoming a God? You don't become a Theophoros by engaging in unethical behaviour.

Unethical behaviour literally increases alignment with Izfet, and thus the weight of your heart.

If you have already read the Ethics section in full, it would be worth reading it again paying attention this time. And then engaging in stronger internalisation of it through:

• Ethics Meditation
• Ethics Context Meditation

You've been here many years. I expect more from you, from this point of view.