Νίκος said:
With all the respect High priest but your post is completely confusing !
Perfect means that they have no disadvantages so how is it possible to not having an ending point?I got what you wrote about struggling but it doesn't explain that perfection has no ending point ...
My personal belief is that advancement has no ending point so there is not a thing called perfection!Compared to us the Gods can be considered our idols since they what we try to become !We compare to them at least right now are completely nothing!
I hope you understand what I am saying and not consider it disrespectful or something because I truly do not mean o be!
Multiple other posts including HP's, mine and Fancy's have already explained the concept, so I'd suggest re-reading this page of the topic again to clear up additional misconceptions.
One thing to understand however is that internal perfection within has nothing to do with external goals or achievements. Satan is perfect, the Gods are perfect, but this does not mean they don't have tasks to complete, because that is the nature of existence. Godhood does not mean you sit on a cloud somewhere and twiddle your thumbs. In actuality, granting yourself a purpose is what makes Godhood meaningful and is what grants it context, otherwise living for eternity would be a pointless act in and of itself.
They're still helping us, for starters. Just because they are perfect, does not mean there still aren't things to do. Even if you yourself reached Godhood tomorrow, this does not mean the world around you will be free of things you desire to do, this does not mean your "work" would be over. The universe is infinite, as such there's a potentially infinite amount of things you could do. The nature of the infinite amount of tasks one could do in an infinite amount of time in an infinite amount of space is not a reflection of personal power, per se.
We here on the forums in our prayers often invoke Satan as "almighty". This has always been the case, but people once again conflate this with the warped concept of omnipotence and confuse themselves, because people's ideas of "whats perfect" has to coincide with contradicting ideas that have entered people's minds due to their abrahamic upbringing.
I once read the work of a philosopher that lived in the later days of Iran before its conversion to Islam. Ultimately, this fellow believed many wrongful things himself, even in spite of not being a muslim, but his writings on "omnipotency" did stick with me. And to clarify for the people in this thread, I'll try to explain it as best as I am able.
The material universe exists as an emanation of the aetherial one, everyone knows this well enough by now. Nature's eternal laws exist across the whole universe as such. As the High Priests have often stated before, there is nothing "outside" the universe, the universe is "One" so to speak, the "All". Satan is "almighty" in the sense that, one could say, he can achieve anything he desires within this universe. I repeat, within this universe. This universe, with its established laws and nature. The problem with Yehuborim omnipotency is that its self contradicting and nonsensical and cancels itself out. As the philosopher explained, this version of omnipotence completely makes the universe redundant, as such an entity could make good evil, and evil good. If you'd prefer a different analogy, heavy things could be light, bright things could be dark, wet could be dry, etc. There'd be no consistency to the universe, nature's laws and how to spiritually progress, because some cosmic superjoo can click his fingers and supposedly change Nature's eternal laws in one microsecond. Life has no meaning without the foundational, unchanging laws that grant reality its context and nature.
As the philosopher stated, even the highest God can only achieve "what is possible". And it doesn't matter how much infinite power you have, so long as you operate within this universe and by its nature, its nature remains the same. Satan is perfect, because he can ultimately achieve "whatever's possible" in this universe.
Once again, one cannot point at the War and say "this is proof he's not perfect". Because as it stands, he's won, as was his desire. But within the laws of whats possible, due to the nature of how time functions in the material universe versus the astral, material reality will take time to reflect this victory. To repeat, Satan is perfect, because his desires will always ultimately come to manifest, because he has the power to do so. How long it takes for these things to manifest physically is irrelevant, as not only is time a different experience to a God, but the time it takes for astral changes to occur materially is simply a part of nature's eternal laws. To wrap this up, I'll give you an example. Say Satan, for some inexplicable reason, is going to give you a fortune and a superhot girlfriend. These are not going to materialize straight into your face, poof out of thin air. These things will come to you based on the nature of your surroundings. Maybe you'll win the lottery, or get a lucrative job or inheritance, or get lucky somewhere else. And in weeks or months or years ahead a chance meeting in your life may grant you such a partner.
As ridiculous as the above sounds my point is, its cause and effect. Things don't just happen for no reason, and material reality and its "narrative" so to speak will simply take time to reflect what has happened in the astral. Same as if you cursed someone to death, they aren't going to just disintegrate on the spot instantly, but maybe they'll get sick or get into an accident, whatevers most likely. The only exception to the rule is really that more amounts of power can make things happen faster or to greater effect, but even still, things taking material time is always a given because its a law. That's all there is to it.
There. I apologize for the long post. I see this question raised a lot so I decided to try my best to lay it to rest. One last time, Satan and the Gods are perfect, because they can ultimately achieve "whatever's possible" in this universe.
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