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[deathRaider19]

Welcome everyone of our new members.

This post is now a Sticky Topic so that people can ask their questions.

Below I post also two important things to start with.

40 Days of Power - A meditation program designed for absolute beginners in Spiritual Satanism to get you started easily:

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SATANIC FAQ's by Johnson Akemi:

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There's a lot of new people here, even more quests now than registered users! And each one of you has questions. In the past, when people had questions here, they would usually start a new topic just for that one question. So there was a lot of repetition of the same topics being made to ask the same questions, and it's hard to look through them all. Searching for topics to see if a question was already asked doesn't always work, and it's too much work than it should be. We're trying to teach as many people as possible whatever they need to know to succeed, so we need a system that's the easiest it can be. Since most of you are new here, we can't expect you to have the time to read through all the years of posts that you weren't here for. It's our job here to give you whatever you need to know in the simplest most effective way.

So everybody ask your questions here so we can answer them. New people come here to learn. And if you don't see your question here yet, then you ask it and it gets answered. We will do our best to give everyone the most perfect answers. This topic becomes like an encyclopedia of all the information in one easy place for everyone to find. You'll find answers to questions that you didn't even think of asking. This is the most perfect way to teach the biggest amount of people everything they need to know.

Start by reading http://www.joyofsatan.org and http://www.kabbalahexposed.com these will answer many of your questions before needing to be asked. Then if you need more information or explaination you can come here. We have to concentrate the most important information in the easiest way for the most amount of people to learn.

Get everyone going on their own Satanic path as quickly and easily as possible. Because as a new member, it can take some people months or even years to figure out the foundation they need before they are even at a level where they are secure and confident on their path. So all of us who have already gone through this are here to give you the answers to get you set up and running. No wasted time, let the work that many of us have already personally done be the new foundation for all new people to start at! Our population is about growth! We take the resources from those who have worked hard before us and continue their work so those who come after us have an even easier time! Satanism is a very difficult path, but in many ways it doesn't have to be and shouldn't be. Make the whole system here perfectly efficient for training our family! Because the sooner you are set up and over the troubles of being a beginner, you are now sooner able to help everyone else!

We love answering questions here, let us help you!

Hello people,

I am super new to Satanism in terms of reaching out to a community. I have mostly been someone who independently and in private practices energy manipulation and the things you can do with it to say the least. I honestly have just never ever really reached out to anyone about it. I don't even talk about this online, in person, other than my brother a very long time ago. or talk to anyone online really. So this is like really odd that in deciding to do this. Anywho, my older brother was part of your guys community almost about 7-8 years ago, I haven't had much contact with him after age 12. But I have always believed in Satan as my God ever since the initiation ritual I did when I was around 13, because to me, I see Him as the leader of self improvement and self growth the most. The last four years I have just been happening to make enough of the right choices but I'm getting to a point in my life where everything is more financially secure, and just my own character improvement in general. I just don't know if you guys talk to each other on here. Or whatnot. But if there's someone I could that would be nice to like have an introduction. I'm not exactly ready to start this out alone because I've always been alone in this aspect.

Even if it's just like one convo or whatnot. I've gone on this website and forums a thousand times just to basically look at the front page over the past years. I have explored the website and even tried to incorporate some the virtues. Today for some reason just feels like the right time, I have practiced energy manipulation in many different forms for a long time but that isn't exactly spiritual growth, that's more so putting emotions I have and releasing them in a way to protect myself or get a specific result out of curiosity and have succeeded numerous times, buts it's like "this seriously happened, this can't be possible , coincidence" and then again and again over, I come back to it just because it feels so powerful to tap into something so powerful.

But I am definitely just an amateur who's randomly experimented with magic and not a really in depth researcher with this. Anywho, have a good day to anyone who reads this! And if anyone wants to have a quick convo just so I can get out of my "comfort zone" per day make first contact and answer some questions I have, preferably someone experienced in Satanism or Zevism, in their spiritual journey. which definitely seems more accurate but I have always known Satan as Satan so that's just what I call Him. I just kind of feel ready to actually start but for me it's not really worth practicing the meditations alone or growing in that aspect because I've never been in or interacted with a community like this or anyone like that before. Thanks!

 

[Darkspirit]

Hello people,

Hello brother DeathRaider. Welcome to the community even you are a member from longer time from what you are saying. Some changes happened recently if you weren't active, Vultus Templorum... Temple of Zeus... Videos... You can create an account on Vultus Templorum and to be even more in touch with the other brothers and sister. And for your random meditations and growth you have to create a routine and to be consistent(a small tip). Don't hesitate to ask if you have unclarity, we will explain or direct you in an article that explain the topic.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

Good evening, I urgently need help performing the ToZ rituals.

I'm having a lot of trouble visualizing the runes in the Sheng Ring. Do you have any ideas or tricks that might make it easier for me?

Hail Astaroth!
Hail Satan!
Hail Zeus!

No worries at all. Focus on Shenu ring around the sigil, while focus middle point is the very sigil middle.

Just vibrate willing the vibration into the Shenu around the Sigil. This means focus on sigil, vibrate and know that the Sound is vibrated into yellow part which is Gold and is the point of Good, for the ritual.

The part "You can Imagine" means you CAN, and is not ultimately necessary, this is why these rituals can be done by beginners as well.

Later when you will get handle of keeping the focus and master normal vibration, you can try just filling the sigil lightning up with the light and becoming filled by vibration which becomes that light and densifies, intensifies and makes the around of the sigil more vibrant and powerful.

Now for another good advice also to look for meditation and the Second level where you draw a circle around the dot. As this meditation is Essential I assume you are doing level 1 if not, then start. Because second level makes mind adjusted for focus on these sigils and for making these rituals with way more power, also helps to concentrate visualization in circle (you draw a circle around the dot and focus to the middle which later constitutes to earned experience of focusing upon the center of the sigil, and while keeping the form of the circle around expands and shapes your awareness to be focused as well, very good on Shenu ring around.
Just make sure to master level 1 before it.

It makes ritual Way more powerful and done more appropriately with needed attention.

 

[Trishula]

My greetings to the whole community!

I have a question regarding the chakra focus meditation.

It is said that one must visualize the base chakra in red color. Is it the same when we visualize the other chakras? Should the other chakras be visualized in red color as well or in their own color, like orange for the 2nd chakra and yellow for the 3rd etc?

Thank you for your response!

 

[Ex-Translator]

My greetings to the whole community!

I have a question regarding the chakra focus meditation.

It is said that one must visualize the base chakra in red color. Is it the same when we visualize the other chakras? Should the other chakras be visualized in red color as well or in their own color, like orange for the 2nd chakra and yellow for the 3rd etc?

Thank you for your response!

Each in its own colour.

 

[Trishula]

Each in its own colour.

thank you!

 

[Ex-Translator]

thank you!

You're welcome.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

I look forward to answering any questions anyone may have. Truth and knowledge are the foundation of this path of which I relentlessly enforce.

I worked with King Paimon before, i asked him about new connections and maybe some friends, soon after mine ritual i got Yehubor with schizophrenia and several strange unstable ones in my life, did I done something wrong? Or the problem is that King Paimon belongs to Goetia and I had to turn to other gods?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

My greetings to the whole community!

I have a question regarding the chakra focus meditation.

It is said that one must visualize the base chakra in red color. Is it the same when we visualize the other chakras? Should the other chakras be visualized in red color as well or in their own color, like orange for the 2nd chakra and yellow for the 3rd etc?

Thank you for your response!

In their own colors. Or you can also use shining Golden light for all of them.

 

[AletheiaArete]

I worked with King Paimon before, i asked him about new connections and maybe some friends, soon after mine ritual i got Yehubor with schizophrenia and several strange unstable ones in my life, did I done something wrong? Or the problem is that King Paimon belongs to Goetia and I had to turn to other gods?

Hi Black Magic,
I would also very much like to know other’s interpretation on this from more established members, as I’m very new to ToZ too.

I will say for my part, just because I’ve recently been feeling a draw to Paimon and meditating on him and his Sigil a lot, from what I understand of him he is very jovial and has the ability to influence/control others. He is also very active and colourful, even as I write this I feel movement in the air.

Perhaps these new people, though unstable or of the Enemy, present unique and “colourful” challenges for you presented by him, to see how you fair influencing their energies, such are his powers. Or maybe did you ask for friends but weren’t exactly clear on what kind of people you want to attract?

Have a look at the entry for him on the ToZ website here (you need to scroll) and see if anything jumps out at you:
https://templeofzeus.org/GODSVII/index.php

I look forward to hearing what others think of this, and any notes for what I’ve suggested.

 

[Ludwick]

I have a weird question for those who have seen her, is Marchosias as muscular as depicted by various artists?

 

[Umun]

I have a weird question for those who have seen her, is Marchosias as muscular as depicted by various artists?

They can appear as they see fit depending on the person invoking or other factors. Try to focus on more important aspects.

Cheers

 

[Ludwick]

Another awkward question, is Marchosias a barbarian, as in a Viking?

When I tried posting that question once, my speakers make a mysterious noise sounding like a confirmation, the noise was unique, very mystical sounding, even some of my neighbors heard it and got curious, never in my years of using my speakers for home use has that happened to me before or since.

And yet I had an odd urge to try again.

 

[To The Shrinebuilder]

Just introducing myself. You can call me Shrine. I've been aware of this current of spirituality for at least 10 years, but interested in taking a deeper look. Khem from X has been very inspirational and is the reason I'm exploring this further. Looking forward to interacting with you all.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

Hi Black Magic,
I would also very much like to know other’s interpretation on this from more established members, as I’m very new to ToZ too.

I will say for my part, just because I’ve recently been feeling a draw to Paimon and meditating on him and his Sigil a lot, from what I understand of him he is very jovial and has the ability to influence/control others. He is also very active and colourful, even as I write this I feel movement in the air.

Perhaps these new people, though unstable or of the Enemy, present unique and “colourful” challenges for you presented by him, to see how you fair influencing their energies, such are his powers. Or maybe did you ask for friends but weren’t exactly clear on what kind of people you want to attract?

Have a look at the entry for him on the ToZ website here (you need to scroll) and see if anything jumps out at you:
https://templeofzeus.org/GODSVII/index.php

I look forward to hearing what others think of this, and any notes for what I’ve suggested.

Hello, the thing is that I am particularly interested in studying the Yehuborim people, but when I asked Paimon for friends, I meant loyal companions, comrades with whom I could have fun, and I got them, although these people were questionable, to say the least, but nevertheless, they did their job. Ironically, Paimon sent me several Yehuborim, some emos, punks, hippies, and other strange guys. I also have big interest in King Paimon, he was mine first entity with whom i dealt with

 

[Darkspirit]

Just introducing myself. You can call me Shrine. I've been aware of this current of spirituality for at least 10 years, but interested in taking a deeper look. Khem from X has been very inspirational and is the reason I'm exploring this further. Looking forward to interacting with you all.

Welcome in the Temple of Zeus Shrine. Our site provide all the information you need.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Hello, the thing is that I am particularly interested in studying the Yehuborim people, but when I asked Paimon for friends, I meant loyal companions, comrades with whom I could have fun, and I got them, although these people were questionable, to say the least, but nevertheless, they did their job. Ironically, Paimon sent me several Yehuborim, some emos, punks, hippies, and other strange guys. I also have big interest in King Paimon, he was mine first entity with whom i dealt with

It was not Paimon or any God who would send Yehuborim into your life. Your own self was reaching out looking for people, and that is who you found.


Welcome.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

It was not Paimon or any God who would send Yehuborim into your life. Your own self was reaching out looking for people, and that is who you found.


Welcome.

in that case, I'll clarify the situation, the fact is that I'm an introvert and it's hard for me to make new acquaintances, I'm not the first one when I don't get to know each other, but whenever I turned to the gods, people came into my life, which is why I say that it was Paimon, or maybe not Paimon, maybe Some other entity, I'm not sure.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

in that case, I'll clarify the situation, the fact is that I'm an introvert and it's hard for me to make new acquaintances, I'm not the first one when I don't get to know each other, but whenever I turned to the gods, people came into my life, which is why I say that it was Paimon, or maybe not Paimon, maybe Some other entity, I'm not sure.

I apologize for my English. I will duplicate my response* The thing is, I am an introvert and it's difficult to make acquaintances, so I never initiate conversations with people by my self. For this reason, I say that Paimon sent people to me because I asked to him, but maybe it wasn't Paimon, I'm not sure, maybe it's could be someone else

 

[Darkspirit]

I apologize for my English. I will duplicate my response* The thing is, I am an introvert and it's difficult to make acquaintances, so I never initiate conversations with people by my self. For this reason, I say that Paimon sent people to me because I asked to him, but maybe it wasn't Paimon, I'm not sure, maybe it's could be someone else

Ok, some entities can communicate with you, if that happened, but be careful, not all of them are good.

 

[Henu the Great]

I apologize for my English. I will duplicate my response* The thing is, I am an introvert and it's difficult to make acquaintances, so I never initiate conversations with people by my self. For this reason, I say that Paimon sent people to me because I asked to him, but maybe it wasn't Paimon, I'm not sure, maybe it's could be someone else

Quite often in life, it is necessary to get out of one's comfort zone to reach certain goals and otherwise to live a fulfilling life. People are people, just like everyone are. Initiating a conversation is just that, a conversation, nothing more nothing less. There are countless people to practice approaching.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

Quite often in life, it is necessary to get out of one's comfort zone to reach certain goals and otherwise to live a fulfilling life. People are people, just like everyone are. Initiating a conversation is just that, a conversation, nothing more nothing less. There are countless people to practice approaching.

Ok, some entities can communicate with you, if that happened, but be careful, not all of them are good.

I'm not sure if these beings interact with people out of kindness; in any case, relationships always imply some kind of exchange. And I think the same applies to gods. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it is not entirely correct to say that a particular entity is good or evil. I think it would be more appropriate to talk about what interest we represent for each other. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm not sure if these beings interact with people out of kindness; in any case, relationships always imply some kind of exchange. And I think the same applies to gods. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it is not entirely correct to say that a particular entity is good or evil. I think it would be more appropriate to talk about what interest we represent for each other. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Number one, Gods are living, sentient beings. Not only that, but on a whole other level. While we as a species can not even maintain this planet properly, they manage the whole universe. Number two, they sure can give favors. You are right that there is usually an exchange of some sort. We as Zevists are in a favorable position, it must be noted, because one thing that they very much want to see is personal development, and most of us engage in it through Zevist practices and so forth. This can be a form of exchange, although there are other ways as well. About entities being this or that, the Gods are fundamentally good beings. Actually, they are above and beyond our perspective on this anyway. Darkspirit warned about "entities", but it should be mentioned that Gods do not lead astray and are always clear with their communication. The errors are on our end in such cases. Beside Gods, there are other living beings in the universe who can be hostile, or otherwise play with us, that is what the warning concerns.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

Number one, Gods are living, sentient beings. Not only that, but on a whole other level. While we as a species can not even maintain this planet properly, they manage the whole universe. Number two, they sure can give favors. You are right that there is usually an exchange of some sort. We as Zevists are in a favorable position, it must be noted, because one thing that they very much want to see is personal development, and most of us engage in it through Zevist practices and so forth. This can be a form of exchange, although there are other ways as well. About entities being this or that, the Gods are fundamentally good beings. Actually, they are above and beyond our perspective on this anyway. Darkspirit warned about "entities", but it should be mentioned that Gods do not lead astray and are always clear with their communication. The errors are on our end in such cases. Beside Gods, there are other living beings in the universe who can be hostile, or otherwise play with us, that is what the warning concerns.

In that case, it's important to understand what criteria can be used to distinguish a malevolent entity from one of our gods. There is a belief that entities like to disguise themselves as Gods. Does this require practice? Or is there any signs that can be used to classify them?

I gues i never dealt with Gods before, but one of the witches in the past said that there were several huge demons stand behind me. This witch was a Muslim (paradoxically, she called herself a witch). In my youth, my parents took me to see her because they suspected that something was wrong with me. So they decided to perform an exorcism ritual on me with a whip. No, they didn't beat me with the whip, it was a ceremonial tool in her ritual. At that time, unfortunately, I was not responsible for myself and did not fully understand what was happening. I remember that after that ritual, my creative powers noticeably diminished, along with my motivation to engage in them. To be honest, I still regret not giving up all that crap back then.

 

[lahh Kali]

Há muitos usuários novos por aqui, e agora temos até mais perguntas do que usuários registrados! E cada um de vocês tem dúvidas. No passado, quando as pessoas tinham dúvidas, geralmente criavam um novo tópico só para aquela pergunta específica. Então, havia muita repetição de tópicos com as mesmas perguntas, e era difícil encontrar respostas em todos eles. Buscar tópicos para ver se uma pergunta já foi feita nem sempre funciona e dá muito mais trabalho do que deveria. Nosso objetivo é ensinar o máximo de pessoas possível tudo o que elas precisam saber para ter sucesso, então precisamos de um sistema o mais simples possível. Como a maioria de vocês é nova por aqui, não podemos esperar que tenham tempo para ler todos os posts antigos que vocês não acompanharam. Nosso trabalho é fornecer a vocês tudo o que precisam saber da maneira mais simples e eficaz possível.

Então, façam suas perguntas aqui para que possamos respondê-las. Pessoas novas vêm aqui para aprender. E se você ainda não encontrou a sua pergunta, pergunte e ela será respondida. Faremos o possível para dar a todos as melhores respostas. Este tópico se tornará como uma enciclopédia de todas as informações em um só lugar, fácil de encontrar para todos. Você encontrará respostas para perguntas que nem imaginava ter. Esta é a maneira mais perfeita de ensinar ao maior número de pessoas tudo o que elas precisam saber.

Comece por ler http://www.joyofsatan.org e http://www.kabbalahexposed.com. Muitas das suas perguntas serão respondidas antes mesmo de serem feitas. Depois, se precisar de mais informações ou explicações, pode voltar aqui. Nosso objetivo é concentrar as informações mais importantes da maneira mais fácil possível para que o maior número de pessoas possa aprender.

Faça com que todos iniciem seu próprio caminho satânico o mais rápido e facilmente possível. Porque, para um novo membro, algumas pessoas podem levar meses ou até anos para descobrir a base necessária antes mesmo de se sentirem seguras e confiantes em seu caminho. Portanto, todos nós que já passamos por isso estamos aqui para dar as respostas para que você comece com o pé direito. Sem perda de tempo, deixe que o trabalho que muitos de nós já realizamos pessoalmente seja a nova base para todos os novos membros começarem! Nossa comunidade está em crescimento! Aproveitamos os recursos daqueles que trabalharam arduamente antes de nós e continuamos seu trabalho para que aqueles que vierem depois de nós tenham uma jornada ainda mais fácil! O satanismo é um caminho muito difícil, mas, de muitas maneiras, não precisa e não deve ser. Torne todo o sistema aqui perfeitamente eficiente para treinar nossa família! Porque quanto mais cedo você estiver estabelecido e superar as dificuldades de ser um iniciante, mais cedo poderá ajudar todos os outros!

Adoramos responder perguntas aqui, deixe-nos ajudar você!

It's not really a question, but I wanted to help me find a job, it's really difficult (I'm in a small town).

 

[Henu the Great]

In that case, it's important to understand what criteria can be used to distinguish a malevolent entity from one of our gods. There is a belief that entities like to disguise themselves as Gods. Does this require practice? Or is there any signs that can be used to classify them?

When I said that they are fundamentally good beings, it is because they do not give false prophecy, they do not toy with us, they are extremely clear in their communication, they dispel any and all doubts, never create them. Doubts come from our lack of understanding and from forces and beings that act against us.

I gues i never dealt with Gods before, but one of the witches in the past said that there were several huge demons stand behind me. This witch was a Muslim (paradoxically, she called herself a witch). In my youth, my parents took me to see her because they suspected that something was wrong with me. So they decided to perform an exorcism ritual on me with a whip. No, they didn't beat me with the whip, it was a ceremonial tool in her ritual. At that time, unfortunately, I was not responsible for myself and did not fully understand what was happening. I remember that after that ritual, my creative powers noticeably diminished, along with my motivation to engage in them. To be honest, I still regret not giving up all that crap back then.

These two will help with this: https://templeofzeus.org/Returning_Curses.php & https://templeofzeus.org/Returning_Curses2.php

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I apologize for my English. I will duplicate my response* The thing is, I am an introvert and it's difficult to make acquaintances, so I never initiate conversations with people by my self. For this reason, I say that Paimon sent people to me because I asked to him, but maybe it wasn't Paimon, I'm not sure, maybe it's could be someone else

When I was young, I was also extremely shy. It was difficult for me to even talk to people who I knew. Now I have no problem about this, after I got a job where I have to talk to many different people and meet new people all the time. Talking to all different kinds of people. Men and women, all different ages, all different jobs, all different personalities, all different economic levels. Practice talking with as many different kinds of people as possible. And then you will just be used to it and will not have any problem anymore.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

When I was young, I was also extremely shy. It was difficult for me to even talk to people who I knew. Now I have no problem about this, after I got a job where I have to talk to many different people and meet new people all the time. Talking to all different kinds of people. Men and women, all different ages, all different jobs, all different personalities, all different economic levels. Practice talking with as many different kinds of people as possible. And then you will just be used to it and will not have any problem anymore.

Greetings, my introversion is not the root of the problem, just a second factor. I have experience working in sales and even now, life brings me into contact with many people, but when i asked King Paimon about good friends i only got bunch of freaks (many of them) with Yehuborim. And no, I'm not complaining. these people were fun, but unfortunately, you can't build deep relationships with them, just like with my colleagues who are completely detached from spirituality and focused only on work and endless trashy news from social media. Some people think that Paimon is just messing around with me for fun, while others believe that it is a completely different entity. Whoever it was, it has a very strange sense of humor.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

Greetings, my introversion is not the root of the problem, just a second factor. I have experience working in sales and even now, life brings me into contact with many people, but when i asked King Paimon about good friends i only got bunch of freaks (many of them) with Yehuborim. And no, I'm not complaining. these people were fun, but unfortunately, you can't build deep relationships with them, just like with my colleagues who are completely detached from spirituality and focused only on work and endless trashy news from social media. Some people think that Paimon is just messing around with me for fun, while others believe that it is a completely different entity. Whoever it was, it has a very strange sense of humor.

On the forum, I received a response that gods are always straightforward, always give direct instructions, and dont play games with people. And here I find a certain contradiction, as a person familiar with Elinism and other paganism, for example, I know that gods interact with people in different ways, including playing with them, mocking them, and trolling incliuded. Should we then think that the classical myth is only a metaphor or symbolism, or that everything that has been said before is now simply not canon? I don't dispute that Gods are undoubtedly beautiful, but I also don't deny the diversity of their behavior toward each of us

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

On the forum, I received a response that gods are always straightforward, always give direct instructions, and dont play games with people. And here I find a certain contradiction, as a person familiar with Elinism and other paganism, for example, I know that gods interact with people in different ways, including playing with them, mocking them, and trolling incliuded. Should we then think that the classical myth is only a metaphor or symbolism, or that everything that has been said before is now simply not canon? I don't dispute that Gods are undoubtedly beautiful, but I also don't deny the diversity of their behavior toward each of us

Think about this clearly. God would not 'troll' or 'mock' any Zevist. Any perception of this being done is due to lesser human stupidity and lack of awareness.

As long as you understand this is an absolute impossibility, you will avoid a lot of the pain of misguided people.

 

[WoadWarrior]

On the forum, I received a response that gods are always straightforward, always give direct instructions, and dont play games with people. And here I find a certain contradiction, as a person familiar with Elinism and other paganism, for example, I know that gods interact with people in different ways, including playing with them, mocking them, and trolling incliuded. Should we then think that the classical myth is only a metaphor or symbolism, or that everything that has been said before is now simply not canon? I don't dispute that Gods are undoubtedly beautiful, but I also don't deny the diversity of their behavior toward each of us

The classical myths are very allegorical in this regard.

The Gods were also often used in the mythos as stand ins for nature, karma, principles such as justice, the authors own voice/opinion, energies and certain important hidden messages that must be uncovered through study, so if a story said Zeus said X, He almost certainly did not say X and its an allegory or a hidden message.

That being said the Gods do have a sense of humor, but its not a mocking humor its very "Greek" if you read a lot of Greek literature that should make sense to you, but they don't really come to us to joke around, they act with purpose and intetion, but more light-hearted interactions can and do happen, especially for those very close to the Gods.

 

[Black Magic ᛋᛋ]

The classical myths are very allegorical in this regard.

The Gods were also often used in the mythos as stand ins for nature, karma, principles such as justice, the authors own voice/opinion, energies and certain important hidden messages that must be uncovered through study, so if a story said Zeus said X, He almost certainly did not say X and its an allegory or a hidden message.

That being said the Gods do have a sense of humor, but its not a mocking humor its very "Greek" if you read a lot of Greek literature that should make sense to you, but they don't really come to us to joke around, they act with purpose and intetion, but more light-hearted interactions can and do happen, especially for those very close to the Gods.

In that case, I didn't express myself correctly. I didn't mean that they were maliciously trolling me, but rather using subtle humor towards me in order to instruct me. I apologize for not providing enough context, and English is not my native language. By the way, you touched on a very important topic. You claim that gods are used in mythology as allegories for the forces of nature, but I noticed that people on the forum perceive them literally as anthropomorphic beings. I have dealt with gods, but I perceive them as powerfull energy, and I have always suspected that they represent the forces of the cosmos and nature that lie beyond the limits of our monkey brains.

 

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On the forum, I received a response that gods are always straightforward, always give direct instructions, and dont play games with people. And here I find a certain contradiction, as a person familiar with Elinism and other paganism, for example, I know that gods interact with people in different ways, including playing with them, mocking them, and trolling incliuded. Should we then think that the classical myth is only a metaphor or symbolism, or that everything that has been said before is now simply not canon? I don't dispute that Gods are undoubtedly beautiful, but I also don't deny the diversity of their behavior toward each of us

Gods are not like that in anyway… and this is modern age brainwash for people to stay away from them = to stay away from empowerment and advancement, because this can bring danger to people in government like Yehuborim and etc., they always tries to put lies in people minds through people who are lost and are easily manipulated, writers occultists wiccans or new age magicians or public personas all included under the yoke pushes lies towards everyone else for this.
They Gods are parent like teaching yes. One can take it wrong way yes and in the process who are willing and dedicated in time they realise and with purification and advancement communication with Gods becomes more clear until eventually all delusions are replaced with unshakeable truth which is ultimate generosity and goodness and act in highest wisdom which is in the side of Gods.