question about Saturn retrograde.

[HekateSoteira]

Saludos, ¿puedo realizar una cuadratura de Saturno durante Saturno retrógrado? (Ya estoy al tanto de los riesgos y las fechas correctas).

 Thanks

 

[Hs666]

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It is highly inadvisable to perform Saturn's kabbalistic square in any case. This can activate its lower octaves and have repercussions in one's life.

 

[չ∂αяквℓσω]

It is highly inadvisable to perform Saturn's kabbalistic square in any case. This can activate its lower octaves and have repercussions in one's life.

I've read about the planetary square of Saturn that it can be very unfortunate, even dangerous. However, if someone is truly advanced, they could even use it to benefit from Saturn, since it's not entirely negative. However, I think you need to understand what you're doing and perform this square with the utmost discretion. Furthermore, the square strengthens the base chakra, relaxes and softens Saturn's negative energies, and makes them easier to work with, directing and sublimating their nature.

 

[Hs666]

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Yes, but the OP doesn't seem to be in a position to handle it.

 

[SaqqaraNox [NG]]

I write from direct experience.
The square of Saturn, performed when this planet is retrograde, can bring about a temporary and fast reduction and restriction of many of our intrinsic faculties. Before delving into this work, I had performed its square several times while Saturn was in direct motion, and although I always obtained benefits and only rarely a few negative effects, I consistently noticed very firm and “immediate” energies.

However, when I performed the square for the first time while Saturn was retrograde, I experienced very serious difficulties and challenges, partly connected to the domain of this planet, all of which manifested on my inner and introspective plane. I found it very hard to handle and to gather my strength and willpower to bring it to completion and, when I reached the final day, the difficulties, which, in my case, took the form of the forced removal of certain inner patterns, reached their peak, and I was on the verge of giving up. Even though that day’s repetition was only one, my mind devised every kind of self-sabotage and stratagem to prevent me from finishing the work.

I can only share my own experience, which was deeply internal and introspective; on the external/material level, I did not encounter particular difficulties. This, of course, depends on many factors. In any case, to carry out this kind of square, one must be aware of why one is doing it, and not merely do it just to “try something out”. To be aware of why one wishes to undertake a particular work means having examined oneself and understood what one’s soul needs in order to grow, to heal, to become stronger, or to be freed. It means having acted introspectively upon oneself, engaging in self-evaluation.

Moreover, if it is necessary for the soul, your Guardian will lead you to this choice. Before experimentally performing any magical work or meditation (not only in the Saturn square) whose effects you cannot foresee, or when you are unsure whether it is truly right for your soul, I strongly recommend turning to your Guardian first who is the only one that can offer to you a proper guidance for your advancement.

 

[Big Dipper]

I write from direct experience.
The square of Saturn, performed when this planet is retrograde, can bring about a temporary and fast reduction and restriction of many of our intrinsic faculties. Before delving into this work, I had performed its square several times while Saturn was in direct motion, and although I always obtained benefits and only rarely a few negative effects, I consistently noticed very firm and “immediate” energies.

However, when I performed the square for the first time while Saturn was retrograde, I experienced very serious difficulties and challenges, partly connected to the domain of this planet, all of which manifested on my inner and introspective plane. I found it very hard to handle and to gather my strength and willpower to bring it to completion and, when I reached the final day, the difficulties, which, in my case, took the form of the forced removal of certain inner patterns, reached their peak, and I was on the verge of giving up. Even though that day’s repetition was only one, my mind devised every kind of self-sabotage and stratagem to prevent me from finishing the work.

I can only share my own experience, which was deeply internal and introspective; on the external/material level, I did not encounter particular difficulties. This, of course, depends on many factors. In any case, to carry out this kind of square, one must be aware of why one is doing it, and not merely do it just to “try something out”. To be aware of why one wishes to undertake a particular work means having examined oneself and understood what one’s soul needs in order to grow, to heal, to become stronger, or to be freed. It means having acted introspectively upon oneself, engaging in self-evaluation.

Moreover, if it is necessary for the soul, your Guardian will lead you to this choice. Before experimentally performing any magical work or meditation (not only in the Saturn square) whose effects you cannot foresee, or when you are unsure whether it is truly right for your soul, I strongly recommend turning to your Guardian first who is the only one that can offer to you a proper guidance for your advancement.

The affects of saturn can be worse if it's in someone's natal 12th house, right? Won't it start "acting up" in whichever issues it rules over in the house it's in? TY

 

[HekateSoteira]

Escribo desde mi experiencia directa.
La cuadratura de Saturno, realizada cuando este planeta está retrógrado, puede provocar una reducción y restricción temporal y rápida de muchas de nuestras facultades intrínsecas. Antes de profundizar en este trabajo, realicé su cuadratura varias veces mientras Saturno estaba en movimiento directo, y aunque siempre obtuve beneficios y solo en raras ocasiones algunos efectos negativos, noté consistentemente energías muy firmes e inmediatas.

Sin embargo, cuando realicé la cuadratura por primera vez mientras Saturno estaba retrógrado, experimenté dificultades y desafíos muy serios, en parte relacionados con la influencia de este planeta, que se manifestaron en mi plano interno e introspectivo. Me resultó muy difícil sobrellevarlo y reunir la fuerza y la voluntad necesarias para completarlo y, al llegar al último día, las dificultades, que en mi caso se manifestaron como la eliminación forzada de ciertos patrones internos, alcanzaron su punto máximo y estuve a punto de rendirme. Aunque la repetición de ese día fue solo una, mi mente urdió todo tipo de autosabotaje y estratagemas para impedirme terminar el trabajo.

Solo puedo compartir mi propia experiencia, que fue profundamente interna e introspectiva; en el plano externo/material, no encontré dificultades particulares. Esto, por supuesto, depende de muchos factores. En cualquier caso, para llevar a cabo este tipo de trabajo, uno debe ser consciente del porqué , y no simplemente hacerlo por «probar algo». Ser consciente del porqué de uno desea emprender un trabajo en particular implica haberse examinado a sí mismo y comprender lo que su alma necesita para crecer, sanar, fortalecerse o liberarse. Significa haber actuado introspectivamente, realizando una autoevaluación.

Además, si es necesario para tu alma, tu Guardián te guiará en esta elección. Antes de realizar cualquier trabajo mágico o meditación experimental (no solo en la cuadratura de Saturno) cuyos efectos no puedas prever, o cuando no estés seguro de que sea lo correcto para tu alma, te recomiendo encarecidamente que consultes primero con tu Guardián, pues es el único que puede ofrecerte la guía adecuada para tu progreso.

Thanks

 

[Hs666]

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The activation of Saturn in the 12th house, in its lower octaves, through “side effects,” such as the execution of a magic square, can indeed be very problematic.

Saturn being in the 12th house, therefore the house of the “unseen,” can emerge and act ‘hidden’ and bring problems of an incomprehensible nature. Problems can occur without an apparent “connection,” which can lead to much confusion and errors of judgment or to not “seeing” the problem itself.