Why is my GD hiding from me? (a serious question)

[Black Magic]

I had already worked with Zeus, Apollo, Kheiron, Ningishzida and Nemesis. All these Gods gave me signs, and Lord Azazel communicated with me directly through my thoughts. I was perfectly felt their presence on an energetic level, so I can say that I have no problems with sensitivity. Zeus came to me and revealed himself in many forms through my mind when i was concentrate on him with 3rd eye. So, the question is, why my GD refusing to shows up? Last time I asked him for a hint, he showed me an image of Saturn, literally showed me the planet itself many times. That was the main reason why I focused on Saturn last time, and now it's been over a month and I still haven't figured anything out. I tried to analyze my birth chart through Grok, and he says that the possible options point to Apollo because i have a strong Sun influence but i'm not sure yet. If anyone is well versed in this topic and has extensive experience working with GD, please help me, because I’ve been trying to figure this out for a long time and have gone through all the information available on the website regarding this matter

 

[Beauty]

This will 100% help you, in less than 7days you will be already beyond certain about who is your Guardian God, please if possible, after you become certain i will appreciate if you confirm that it helped in replies, so that it helps others too:

1. Know that intention & faith are very very very important, faith in the Gods and faith on yourself.

You need delusion, literally, but first i should define delusion on my own way, since what i mean by delusion is real fate, forget abojt the word ‘delusion’ its causing you big sabotage, look at this scenario :

A: one sees a Dog walking randomly, then the dog takes a U turn and start following the person => he thinks : omg a sign of God related to this animal, i need to search and find who he is.

B: one sees the same thing => he thinks : oh maybe a sign? No no its not, its just random event, if its a sign, lets wait to see if another dog after 5min will come and do the same.

Walks by a dog => the dog is indifferent => see! The previous dog was just friendly there is nothing mystical about this

The fact you are already feeling connection to multiple Gods, and still not knowing your guardian God, IT MEANS 100% you are on ´B’, please if possible can you confirm in your reply that you truly are skeptical? If you are not , its worst it means you unconsciously block the signs related to your Guardian God.

You already have the openess which is proved by you seing signs of the Gods, but the ones related to who is your guardian God you filter them.

Just follow my lead, trust me. know for sure you have been given multiple signs, but you miss them, i do not know if you expect the God to tell you literally he is your Guardian God that directly,

The signs:

you must have notes about signs, put even the ones that are clearly delusions, for example in this week where you are trying to know who is your guardian God, it happens that it rains and thunders happen => write in your note it may be a sign from God Zeus, if you do not do that you will only make it harder for yourself, i believe Furfur and Pazuzu are related to lightning, ( i checked i did not find God section in ToZ now to verify)so lets say your Guardian Goddess is furfur, dismissing the thunder is dismissing a huge sign, out of misinterpretation of thinking ‘i do not think its Zeus’, but what will happen in real life is that you will write : thunders happened maybe its zeus, then you will read in ToZ furfur is related to lightening, then you will think ‘ oh so it was a Sign from furfur!’
Have complete trust, just write whatever comes to your mind in notes,

Even big signs will be dismissed if you are not delusional ( what i mean by delusional is starting puting every single thing that may not even look like a sign in notes)

Also, write your personality traits in notes, try to see if a God can be somehow linked to an initiate having that personality

long story short : write literally everything , EVERYTHING.

You wake up and you see the sun and feel deep appreciation for it ? If the thought pops up in your head this may be a sign, write it, just farm the signs.

What will happen is, after only around 10 things you write, you will start knowing the good signs from the ones that are less convincing but keep them too,

Also do not wait for new signs, go back to before dedication, recall if there was something you can write, same in the day of dedication, same after, for example what you said in thread above : ´those Gods gave me signs. ‘ write this in your notes, with details.

What you saw in astrology, write this too. Write everything.

On top of that, listen to your inner feeling ? Who do you think is your guardian God? Write instantly what you feel do not doubt, if after writing you think , ´oh no i think its another God instead’ write that too. Keep farming.

Once you do the above, skim through notes , see them, try to feel more thank think, and speculate based on feeling , not fully based on conscious mind, you may think: its 70% this God and 20% this God and 10% this God.

Know that 99.99% its the one who have bigger percentage, but you do not have to do this jump, lets keep it 70%. Or lets say you still unsure.

Now start mentally trying to reach out to your guardian God : to my Guardian God aligned with Zeus, i really want to figure out who you are but cannot i do not know why, am i missing signs ? Etc..
Tell him everything, keep talking to him daily, if you have doubt, report this to him : to my guardian God aligned with Zeus , i believe you are ‘Valefor’ for example, but i am not sure, can you please give me a sign so that i become 100% sure? Thank you so much

Just keep reaching out to him, do not miss signs that sound crazy, like you ask your guardian God and 1 day later something in ToZ is released in relation to that God, do not think : who am i to experience that synchronicity , also do not post this, keep this to yourself, just to avoid someone mirroring your doubts to you.

The moment you will start having a feel of who may be your guardian God, like 70-80%,

You need to have big big faith in next 1-2 signs, big faith, lets say you sit in meditation and ask ‘ to my guardian God aligned with Zeus i am still unsure … can you please give me a sign thank you’ lets say you open eyes and see the time is 04:33 , that 33 may be the confirmation if you view the number as valuable. Or any other sign, the next synchronicity know that its 100% accurate.

I understand you may still doubt after this, thats why i said above 7days, i believe you will get it today after reading my message, but you need to solidify the faith, keep reaching out to yojr guardian God, if you need a sign you can ask him or if you need help in having faith etc..

If in that time suddenly another God reach out to you in a way, it does not mean he is your guardian God, sometimes this happens too, but you can add that to your notes. Mostly the one you are feeling ‘i guess its him’ it is mostly really him.

you will mostly spend those 7 days in a way of ‘ yes its him’ ‘oh its really him’ ´omg its really my guardian God i knew it’ etc.. your faith will keep solidifying

You have an openess but you so not have the element of delusion some have, some literally can after 1 sign know for sure accurately who is their guardian mind, but the ones who label this delusion, will struggle, because of your skepticism, you will need a bit time even after really knowing who is your guardian God.

What i mean by delusion here is the faith needed to be mixed by openness. But for the ones with strong skeptical mind, they label faith as delusion and by consequence lack faith. Which contributes to the problem.

That being said. After you know for sure who he is, DO NOT cut contact, otherwise you mind will overpower you, you will start doubting again ‘wait ! Is he really my guardia God? Did my guardian God change ? Did the Gods leave me ?’

So keep reaching out to him and keep going, and every single time you get the strong conviction write it in your notes : i am 100% sure this is my guardian God. So that you do not forget that at moments you really knew who he is.

Keep in mind your guardian God can be High ranked, do not think you are unworthy this may make you dismiss signs in case your guardian God is truly high ranked.

If you want my personal opinion, after reading your thread, i can talk to you and in 5min figure out your guardian God, i can even in this message describe with high accuracy why you experienced each experience you experienced above. And when you read my interpretation you will understand many things, I prefered to not comment that way, so that i spoil nothing for you, its very pleasant experience.

Remember: if you already experience the Gods, and still not knowing your guardian God = 100% you are overly skeptical, you lack faith. Cultivate faith, and follow the above guidance.

I forgot to mention, do not do all this fully with analytical mind, dont be rigid, follow inner guidance, try to FEEL which God you are drawn to, use feelings, intuition, inner guidance, do not rely purely on analytical mind. Make the matter spiritual not fully analytical.

 

[Beauty]

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

Create a dedicated note (digital or paper). Record everything that could conceivably relate to a deity, without immediate judgment. Examples:

· Weather events (thunder, rain, etc..)

· Animal encounters (a dog following you, a bird at your window, etc..)

· Dreams (make sure you write them directly after waking up or you may forget)

· Random thoughts that pop into your head: "This might be a sign from X"

· Numbers or synchronicities you notice etc..

Or even signs that you recognize as signs and i did not mention above

Do not filter. Even signs that later seem unlikely ( because of the conscious mind skepticism) should remain. The goal is to get your mind to focus on the matter and to start having faith and data, do not write only big signs, write small ones too since they compound..

Step 2: Include Past Events

You already dedicated long time ago i guess. Review your memory from before your dedication, the day of dedication, and any subsequent spiritual experiences. Write down anything notable, dreams, coincidences, feelings of being watched or guided. Do not rely only on new signs, recall what you already got. Even if you had spiritual phenomena before dedicating write it. Document everything.

Step 3: Record Your Inner feelings

Ask yourself: "Which God do I intuitively feel might be my Guardian?" Write the first name that comes to mind. Which God you were always drawn to? If that feeling changes later, write the new name. Do not debate internally; simply document.

Step 4: Communicate Directly

Each day, address your unknown Guardian God as follows (adapt wording as needed, its just an example):

"To my Guardian God aligned with Zeus: I want to know you but i think i miss signs, or maybe i just lack faith etc.." just communicate with him report to him the situation.

If you develop a partial guess based on the notes (e.g., 70% certain it is Valefor), state that explicitly in your communication and ask for a confirming sign.

Step 5: Interpret Signs After writing them, Not Before

After collecting 7-9 signs ( its already a lot by the way, 1 sign is enough, but since you are skeptical a bit and seem to have strong analytical mind, and since you already have experiences, you will gather 7-9 fast) , review the notes. Look for patterns. Use feeling over analysis: which God’s name or energy appears most frequently? Which signs felt emotionally different from others?

Try to feel who is most likely your guardian God if you are hesitating between 2-3 Gods.

Step 6: Test a Hypothesis

Pick the highest-probability which you will feel that its true but just consciously still have little doubts. Continue your daily communication, now addressing that God directly. Ask for a clear sign, and have big faith, literally after seing the sign know its your guardian God, have faith in signs.

When the sign arrives (as it typically will with genuine openness), accept it as confirmation. Do not argue that it could be random. At this stage, your commitment to faith is what makes the method work.

Step 7: Solidify Certainty

Once you know who he is, write down: "I am certain this is my Guardian God" even if you still have residual ( mental) doubt. Document everything.

Continue communicating daily. Do not stop after confirmation; otherwise, doubt may creep back, you may think he changed etc.. keep the communication going to solidify faith after you already confirm its your guardian God with the sign he will give you.

Important Notes

· Your Guardian can be any rank. Do not dismiss signs because you feel "unworthy" of a high-ranking deity.

· Other Gods may also reach out during this process. That does not mean they are your Guardian. Note these encounters separately. It is also possible to start the process of knowing Guardian God with being strongly drawn to a God or liking a God only to find out another is your guardian God, so also do not dismiss this. Just follow your inner guidance, and have faith, you will know.

· Skepticism is the primary barrier. If you have already experienced signs from multiple Gods but cannot pinpoint your Guardian, the cause is almost certainly excessive filtering, not lack of signs. Normally you can easily feel drawn to the one who is your Guardian God, which names resonates with you and you will drawn to etc..

Given the fact you already got signs and experiences, i believe if you write all this in notes you will instantly see who he is. You may feel you need 1 more sign to calm your conscious mind, but i believe you will figure it out instantly, if its not the case, just continue the above, you already perceive signs, so it will be easy for you, have faith in yourself.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I believe that your expectations are holding you back here a bit. Have an open mind and journal things to keep better track.

As for visuals, remember our mind can trick our understanding of the experiences we face. Instead of asking yourself, why would Zeus and other Gods show you these visuals, the better way is to ask why are you yourself seeing these things as is.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

For me it was easy to know who is my GD, when she first started to talk to me, i asked her who she is and then she told me her name, i searched on the ToZ and there it was.

 

[Black Magic]

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

Create a dedicated note (digital or paper). Record everything that could conceivably relate to a deity, without immediate judgment. Examples:

· Weather events (thunder, rain, etc..)

· Animal encounters (a dog following you, a bird at your window, etc..)

· Dreams (make sure you write them directly after waking up or you may forget)

· Random thoughts that pop into your head: "This might be a sign from X"

· Numbers or synchronicities you notice etc..

Or even signs that you recognize as signs and i did not mention above

Do not filter. Even signs that later seem unlikely ( because of the conscious mind skepticism) should remain. The goal is to get your mind to focus on the matter and to start having faith and data, do not write only big signs, write small ones too since they compound..

Step 2: Include Past Events

You already dedicated long time ago i guess. Review your memory from before your dedication, the day of dedication, and any subsequent spiritual experiences. Write down anything notable, dreams, coincidences, feelings of being watched or guided. Do not rely only on new signs, recall what you already got. Even if you had spiritual phenomena before dedicating write it. Document everything.

Step 3: Record Your Inner feelings

Ask yourself: "Which God do I intuitively feel might be my Guardian?" Write the first name that comes to mind. Which God you were always drawn to? If that feeling changes later, write the new name. Do not debate internally; simply document.

Step 4: Communicate Directly

Each day, address your unknown Guardian God as follows (adapt wording as needed, its just an example):

"To my Guardian God aligned with Zeus: I want to know you but i think i miss signs, or maybe i just lack faith etc.." just communicate with him report to him the situation.

If you develop a partial guess based on the notes (e.g., 70% certain it is Valefor), state that explicitly in your communication and ask for a confirming sign.

Step 5: Interpret Signs After writing them, Not Before

After collecting 7-9 signs ( its already a lot by the way, 1 sign is enough, but since you are skeptical a bit and seem to have strong analytical mind, and since you already have experiences, you will gather 7-9 fast) , review the notes. Look for patterns. Use feeling over analysis: which God’s name or energy appears most frequently? Which signs felt emotionally different from others?

Try to feel who is most likely your guardian God if you are hesitating between 2-3 Gods.

Step 6: Test a Hypothesis

Pick the highest-probability which you will feel that its true but just consciously still have little doubts. Continue your daily communication, now addressing that God directly. Ask for a clear sign, and have big faith, literally after seing the sign know its your guardian God, have faith in signs.

When the sign arrives (as it typically will with genuine openness), accept it as confirmation. Do not argue that it could be random. At this stage, your commitment to faith is what makes the method work.

Step 7: Solidify Certainty

Once you know who he is, write down: "I am certain this is my Guardian God" even if you still have residual ( mental) doubt. Document everything.

Continue communicating daily. Do not stop after confirmation; otherwise, doubt may creep back, you may think he changed etc.. keep the communication going to solidify faith after you already confirm its your guardian God with the sign he will give you.

Important Notes

· Your Guardian can be any rank. Do not dismiss signs because you feel "unworthy" of a high-ranking deity.

· Other Gods may also reach out during this process. That does not mean they are your Guardian. Note these encounters separately. It is also possible to start the process of knowing Guardian God with being strongly drawn to a God or liking a God only to find out another is your guardian God, so also do not dismiss this. Just follow your inner guidance, and have faith, you will know.

· Skepticism is the primary barrier. If you have already experienced signs from multiple Gods but cannot pinpoint your Guardian, the cause is almost certainly excessive filtering, not lack of signs. Normally you can easily feel drawn to the one who is your Guardian God, which names resonates with you and you will drawn to etc..

Given the fact you already got signs and experiences, i believe if you write all this in notes you will instantly see who he is. You may feel you need 1 more sign to calm your conscious mind, but i believe you will figure it out instantly, if its not the case, just continue the above, you already perceive signs, so it will be easy for you, have faith in yourself.

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

Create a dedicated note (digital or paper). Record everything that could conceivably relate to a deity, without immediate judgment. Examples:

· Weather events (thunder, rain, etc..)

· Animal encounters (a dog following you, a bird at your window, etc..)

· Dreams (make sure you write them directly after waking up or you may forget)

· Random thoughts that pop into your head: "This might be a sign from X"

· Numbers or synchronicities you notice etc..

Or even signs that you recognize as signs and i did not mention above

Do not filter. Even signs that later seem unlikely ( because of the conscious mind skepticism) should remain. The goal is to get your mind to focus on the matter and to start having faith and data, do not write only big signs, write small ones too since they compound..

Step 2: Include Past Events

You already dedicated long time ago i guess. Review your memory from before your dedication, the day of dedication, and any subsequent spiritual experiences. Write down anything notable, dreams, coincidences, feelings of being watched or guided. Do not rely only on new signs, recall what you already got. Even if you had spiritual phenomena before dedicating write it. Document everything.

Step 3: Record Your Inner feelings

Ask yourself: "Which God do I intuitively feel might be my Guardian?" Write the first name that comes to mind. Which God you were always drawn to? If that feeling changes later, write the new name. Do not debate internally; simply document.

Step 4: Communicate Directly

Each day, address your unknown Guardian God as follows (adapt wording as needed, its just an example):

"To my Guardian God aligned with Zeus: I want to know you but i think i miss signs, or maybe i just lack faith etc.." just communicate with him report to him the situation.

If you develop a partial guess based on the notes (e.g., 70% certain it is Valefor), state that explicitly in your communication and ask for a confirming sign.

Step 5: Interpret Signs After writing them, Not Before

After collecting 7-9 signs ( its already a lot by the way, 1 sign is enough, but since you are skeptical a bit and seem to have strong analytical mind, and since you already have experiences, you will gather 7-9 fast) , review the notes. Look for patterns. Use feeling over analysis: which God’s name or energy appears most frequently? Which signs felt emotionally different from others?

Try to feel who is most likely your guardian God if you are hesitating between 2-3 Gods.

Step 6: Test a Hypothesis

Pick the highest-probability which you will feel that its true but just consciously still have little doubts. Continue your daily communication, now addressing that God directly. Ask for a clear sign, and have big faith, literally after seing the sign know its your guardian God, have faith in signs.

When the sign arrives (as it typically will with genuine openness), accept it as confirmation. Do not argue that it could be random. At this stage, your commitment to faith is what makes the method work.

Step 7: Solidify Certainty

Once you know who he is, write down: "I am certain this is my Guardian God" even if you still have residual ( mental) doubt. Document everything.

Continue communicating daily. Do not stop after confirmation; otherwise, doubt may creep back, you may think he changed etc.. keep the communication going to solidify faith after you already confirm its your guardian God with the sign he will give you.

Important Notes

· Your Guardian can be any rank. Do not dismiss signs because you feel "unworthy" of a high-ranking deity.

· Other Gods may also reach out during this process. That does not mean they are your Guardian. Note these encounters separately. It is also possible to start the process of knowing Guardian God with being strongly drawn to a God or liking a God only to find out another is your guardian God, so also do not dismiss this. Just follow your inner guidance, and have faith, you will know.

· Skepticism is the primary barrier. If you have already experienced signs from multiple Gods but cannot pinpoint your Guardian, the cause is almost certainly excessive filtering, not lack of signs. Normally you can easily feel drawn to the one who is your Guardian God, which names resonates with you and you will drawn to etc..

Given the fact you already got signs and experiences, i believe if you write all this in notes you will instantly see who he is. You may feel you need 1 more sign to calm your conscious mind, but i believe you will figure it out instantly, if its not the case, just continue the above, you already perceive signs, so it will be easy for you, have faith in yourself.

Hello, I’ve never received such insightful and helpful answers before! Thank you! As for the numbers, for a long time now I’ve been seeing 666 and 13 absolutely everywhere on license plates, in lottery numbers, in program code, and just about anywhere else you can imagine. Yesterday, when I was riding in a taxi, I was thinking about Azazel and saw a place whose name was associated with a goat. And yes, you’re right I’m a huge skeptic, it seems that’s exactly what the reason has been all along

 

[Black Magic]

I believe that your expectations are holding you back here a bit. Have an open mind and journal things to keep better track.

As for visuals, remember our mind can trick our understanding of the experiences we face. Instead of asking yourself, why would Zeus and other Gods show you these visuals, the better way is to ask why are you yourself seeing these things as is.

I don't expect much, I just accept that I'm given, I'll try to put my skepticism aside for a moment to help myself figure out who my GD is

 

[I.Am.Radiant]

I had already worked with Zeus, Apollo, Kheiron, Ningishzida and Nemesis. All these Gods gave me signs, and Lord Azazel communicated with me directly through my thoughts. I was perfectly felt their presence on an energetic level, so I can say that I have no problems with sensitivity. Zeus came to me and revealed himself in many forms through my mind when i was concentrate on him with 3rd eye. So, the question is, why my GD refusing to shows up? Last time I asked him for a hint, he showed me an image of Saturn, literally showed me the planet itself many times. That was the main reason why I focused on Saturn last time, and now it's been over a month and I still haven't figured anything out. I tried to analyze my birth chart through Grok, and he says that the possible options point to Apollo because i have a strong Sun influence but i'm not sure yet. If anyone is well versed in this topic and has extensive experience working with GD, please help me, because I’ve been trying to figure this out for a long time and have gone through all the information available on the website regarding this matter

Have you tried asking your Guardian the first letter of their name with pendulum? (And/or spell it out in this way)
That's what I did, based off anothers suggestion on here last year. Its very effective and straight forward. Less cryptic. Best wishes in your journey.

 

[Black Magic]

For me it was easy to know who is my GD, when she first started to talk to me, i asked her who she is and then she told me her name, i searched on the ToZ and there it was.

I'm curious what's the difference between you and me? Why can the Gods tell that some people openly , while making the others wait for years?

 

[Black Magic]

Have you tried asking your Guardian the first letter of their name with pendulum? (And/or spell it out in this way)
That's what I did, based off anothers suggestion on here last year. Its very effective and straight forward. Less cryptic. Best wishes in your journey.

I was skeptical about this method, I thought my mind would start looking for coincidences, or that the pendulum would just point to the first letter it came across. In theory, I had considered using a pendulum, but I was always held back by the thought: what if I make several attempts and the pendulum points to different letters? Then the method would prove ineffective and only confuse me even more. Still, I should give it a try, I'd be surprised if it pointed to the same letters at the very beginning of his name even after three tries in a row. I'll share the result then i gonna try it

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

A hard question. I also waited for years for good comunication or normal comunication. I'd say try to talk to your GD and ask who it is trough an ouija bord. I also comunicated like this with my GD for a while. And if you're new and doesn't work just wait it out he/she will reveal herself one day.

 

[Black Magic]

A hard question. I also waited for years for good comunication or normal comunication. I'd say try to talk to your GD and ask who it is trough an ouija bord. I also comunicated like this with my GD for a while. And if you're new and doesn't work just wait it out he/she will reveal herself one day.

I've never used a pendulum or a Ouija board; I've always thought that human error and chance play too big a role in them, but now that I've reached the point of frustration, I'm ready to do anything

 

[Andranox]

I'm curious what's the difference between you and me? Why can the Gods tell that some people openly , while making the others wait for years?

Greetings.
There is no need to worry too much about this, and the answer to your question is simpler than you think.

Some Gods and Goddesses are more direct, others more subtle. Some may give a clear sign, others an indirect one.

Every person is also individual. Some may find out very quickly, others after years, and there is nothing strange about that.

It may also be the case that you are simply not yet ready, and the only thing you can do in such a moment is to continue developing yourself and not fixate on it. Even if you do not know who your Guardiab is, your Guardian knows you, hears you, and sees you. If you wish to reach out to Them, you do not need to know exactly who your Guardian is.

Personally, I discovered my Guardian Goddess unexpectedly. When I was just beginning my path I felt a strong pull toward the Goddess Hera and saw Her in my dreams, but that did not mean She was my Guardian. Then suddenly, while performing a ritual to my Guardian Goddess, I felt a strong pull and asked "Are You my Guardian?" and received very clear answers, many times over.

So one must keep moving forward and continue to meditate. Everything has its time.

Also, a pull toward a certain planet does not always mean that your Guardian is connected to that planet. I also have a strong pull toward Mars and Mercury, yet my Guardian is associated with a planet I had not even thought about.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

I've never used a pendulum or a Ouija board; I've always thought that human error and chance play too big a role in them, but now that I've reached the point of frustration, I'm ready to do anything

I say go and try them.