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Why is my GD hiding from me? (a serious question)

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I had already worked with Zeus, Apollo, Kheiron, Ningishzida and Nemesis. All these Gods gave me signs, and Lord Azazel communicated with me directly through my thoughts. I was perfectly felt their presence on an energetic level, so I can say that I have no problems with sensitivity. Zeus came to me and revealed himself in many forms through my mind when i was concentrate on him with 3rd eye. So, the question is, why my GD refusing to shows up? Last time I asked him for a hint, he showed me an image of Saturn, literally showed me the planet itself many times. That was the main reason why I focused on Saturn last time, and now it's been over a month and I still haven't figured anything out. I tried to analyze my birth chart through Grok, and he says that the possible options point to Apollo because i have a strong Sun influence but i'm not sure yet. If anyone is well versed in this topic and has extensive experience working with GD, please help me, because I’ve been trying to figure this out for a long time and have gone through all the information available on the website regarding this matter

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#1
Beautysaid:post: 1197903

This will 100% help you, in less than 7days you will be already beyond certain about who is your Guardian God, please if possible, after you become certain i will appreciate if you confirm that it helped in replies, so that it helps others too:

1. Know that intention & faith are very very very important, faith in the Gods and faith on yourself.

You need delusion, literally, but first i should define delusion on my own way, since what i mean by delusion is real fate, forget abojt the word ‘delusion’ its causing you big sabotage, look at this scenario :

I forgot to mention, do not do all this fully with analytical mind, dont be rigid, follow inner guidance, try to FEEL which God you are drawn to, use feelings, intuition, inner guidance, do not rely purely on analytical mind. Make the matter spiritual not fully analytical.

#2

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

Create a dedicated note (digital or paper). Record everything that could conceivably relate to a deity, without immediate judgment. Examples:

· Weather events (thunder, rain, etc..)

· Animal encounters (a dog following you, a bird at your window, etc..)

· Dreams (make sure you write them directly after waking up or you may forget)

· Random thoughts that pop into your head: "This might be a sign from X"

· Numbers or synchronicities you notice etc..

Or even signs that you recognize as signs and i did not mention above

Do not filter. Even signs that later seem unlikely ( because of the conscious mind skepticism) should remain. The goal is to get your mind to focus on the matter and to start having faith and data, do not write only big signs, write small ones too since they compound..

Step 2: Include Past Events

You already dedicated long time ago i guess. Review your memory from before your dedication, the day of dedication, and any subsequent spiritual experiences. Write down anything notable, dreams, coincidences, feelings of being watched or guided. Do not rely only on new signs, recall what you already got. Even if you had spiritual phenomena before dedicating write it. Document everything.

Step 3: Record Your Inner feelings

Ask yourself: "Which God do I intuitively feel might be my Guardian?" Write the first name that comes to mind. Which God you were always drawn to? If that feeling changes later, write the new name. Do not debate internally; simply document.

Step 4: Communicate Directly

Each day, address your unknown Guardian God as follows (adapt wording as needed, its just an example):

"To my Guardian God aligned with Zeus: I want to know you but i think i miss signs, or maybe i just lack faith etc.." just communicate with him report to him the situation.

If you develop a partial guess based on the notes (e.g., 70% certain it is Valefor), state that explicitly in your communication and ask for a confirming sign.

Step 5: Interpret Signs After writing them, Not Before

After collecting 7-9 signs ( its already a lot by the way, 1 sign is enough, but since you are skeptical a bit and seem to have strong analytical mind, and since you already have experiences, you will gather 7-9 fast) , review the notes. Look for patterns. Use feeling over analysis: which God’s name or energy appears most frequently? Which signs felt emotionally different from others?

Try to feel who is most likely your guardian God if you are hesitating between 2-3 Gods.

Step 6: Test a Hypothesis

Pick the highest-probability which you will feel that its true but just consciously still have little doubts. Continue your daily communication, now addressing that God directly. Ask for a clear sign, and have big faith, literally after seing the sign know its your guardian God, have faith in signs.

When the sign arrives (as it typically will with genuine openness), accept it as confirmation. Do not argue that it could be random. At this stage, your commitment to faith is what makes the method work.

Step 7: Solidify Certainty

Once you know who he is, write down: "I am certain this is my Guardian God" even if you still have residual ( mental) doubt. Document everything.

Continue communicating daily. Do not stop after confirmation; otherwise, doubt may creep back, you may think he changed etc.. keep the communication going to solidify faith after you already confirm its your guardian God with the sign he will give you.

Important Notes

· Your Guardian can be any rank. Do not dismiss signs because you feel "unworthy" of a high-ranking deity.

· Other Gods may also reach out during this process. That does not mean they are your Guardian. Note these encounters separately. It is also possible to start the process of knowing Guardian God with being strongly drawn to a God or liking a God only to find out another is your guardian God, so also do not dismiss this. Just follow your inner guidance, and have faith, you will know.

· Skepticism is the primary barrier. If you have already experienced signs from multiple Gods but cannot pinpoint your Guardian, the cause is almost certainly excessive filtering, not lack of signs. Normally you can easily feel drawn to the one who is your Guardian God, which names resonates with you and you will drawn to etc..

Given the fact you already got signs and experiences, i believe if you write all this in notes you will instantly see who he is. You may feel you need 1 more sign to calm your conscious mind, but i believe you will figure it out instantly, if its not the case, just continue the above, you already perceive signs, so it will be easy for you, have faith in yourself.

#3

I believe that your expectations are holding you back here a bit. Have an open mind and journal things to keep better track.

As for visuals, remember our mind can trick our understanding of the experiences we face. Instead of asking yourself, why would Zeus and other Gods show you these visuals, the better way is to ask why are you yourself seeing these things as is.

"In the darkness we have found strength, with which we will reach the highest light." - High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Hail Zeus

Hail Ninurta

Yoga for Men by High Priestess Lydia Coventina https://ancient-forums.com/threads/yoga-for-men.307901/

#4

For me it was easy to know who is my GD, when she first started to talk to me, i asked her who she is and then she told me her name, i searched on the ToZ and there it was.

#5

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

To help you confidently identify your Guardian, assuming you already feel some connection to the Gods but remain uncertain. The fact you already started having experiences with Gods and not knowing who is your guardian God it means you most likely missed many signs,

Uncertainty often stems from excessive skepticism that filters out genuine signs. This method reduces that filtering by systematically recording all potential signals and building faith through repetition and self-observation.

Step 1: write in notes, have a journal.

Hello, I’ve never received such insightful and helpful answers before! Thank you! As for the numbers, for a long time now I’ve been seeing 666 and 13 absolutely everywhere on license plates, in lottery numbers, in program code, and just about anywhere else you can imagine. Yesterday, when I was riding in a taxi, I was thinking about Azazel and saw a place whose name was associated with a goat. And yes, you’re right I’m a huge skeptic, it seems that’s exactly what the reason has been all along

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#6

I believe that your expectations are holding you back here a bit. Have an open mind and journal things to keep better track.

As for visuals, remember our mind can trick our understanding of the experiences we face. Instead of asking yourself, why would Zeus and other Gods show you these visuals, the better way is to ask why are you yourself seeing these things as is.

I don't expect much, I just accept that I'm given, I'll try to put my skepticism aside for a moment to help myself figure out who my GD is

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#7

I had already worked with Zeus, Apollo, Kheiron, Ningishzida and Nemesis. All these Gods gave me signs, and Lord Azazel communicated with me directly through my thoughts. I was perfectly felt their presence on an energetic level, so I can say that I have no problems with sensitivity. Zeus came to me and revealed himself in many forms through my mind when i was concentrate on him with 3rd eye. So, the question is, why my GD refusing to shows up? Last time I asked him for a hint, he showed me an image of Saturn, literally showed me the planet itself many times. That was the main reason why I focused on Saturn last time, and now it's been over a month and I still haven't figured anything out. I tried to analyze my birth chart through Grok, and he says that the possible options point to Apollo because i have a strong Sun influence but i'm not sure yet. If anyone is well versed in this topic and has extensive experience working with GD, please help me, because I’ve been trying to figure this out for a long time and have gone through all the information available on the website regarding this matter

Have you tried asking your Guardian the first letter of their name with pendulum? (And/or spell it out in this way)
That's what I did, based off anothers suggestion on here last year. Its very effective and straight forward. Less cryptic. Best wishes in your journey.

#8

For me it was easy to know who is my GD, when she first started to talk to me, i asked her who she is and then she told me her name, i searched on the ToZ and there it was.

I'm curious what's the difference between you and me? Why can the Gods tell that some people openly , while making the others wait for years?

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#9

Have you tried asking your Guardian the first letter of their name with pendulum? (And/or spell it out in this way)
That's what I did, based off anothers suggestion on here last year. Its very effective and straight forward. Less cryptic. Best wishes in your journey.

I was skeptical about this method, I thought my mind would start looking for coincidences, or that the pendulum would just point to the first letter it came across. In theory, I had considered using a pendulum, but I was always held back by the thought: what if I make several attempts and the pendulum points to different letters? Then the method would prove ineffective and only confuse me even more. Still, I should give it a try, I'd be surprised if it pointed to the same letters at the very beginning of his name even after three tries in a row. I'll share the result then i gonna try it

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#10

A hard question. I also waited for years for good comunication or normal comunication. I'd say try to talk to your GD and ask who it is trough an ouija bord. I also comunicated like this with my GD for a while. And if you're new and doesn't work just wait it out he/she will reveal herself one day.

#11

A hard question. I also waited for years for good comunication or normal comunication. I'd say try to talk to your GD and ask who it is trough an ouija bord. I also comunicated like this with my GD for a while. And if you're new and doesn't work just wait it out he/she will reveal herself one day.

I've never used a pendulum or a Ouija board; I've always thought that human error and chance play too big a role in them, but now that I've reached the point of frustration, I'm ready to do anything

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#12

I'm curious what's the difference between you and me? Why can the Gods tell that some people openly , while making the others wait for years?

Greetings.
There is no need to worry too much about this, and the answer to your question is simpler than you think.

Some Gods and Goddesses are more direct, others more subtle. Some may give a clear sign, others an indirect one.

Every person is also individual. Some may find out very quickly, others after years, and there is nothing strange about that.

It may also be the case that you are simply not yet ready, and the only thing you can do in such a moment is to continue developing yourself and not fixate on it. Even if you do not know who your Guardiab is, your Guardian knows you, hears you, and sees you. If you wish to reach out to Them, you do not need to know exactly who your Guardian is.

Personally, I discovered my Guardian Goddess unexpectedly. When I was just beginning my path I felt a strong pull toward the Goddess Hera and saw Her in my dreams, but that did not mean She was my Guardian. Then suddenly, while performing a ritual to my Guardian Goddess, I felt a strong pull and asked "Are You my Guardian?" and received very clear answers, many times over.

So one must keep moving forward and continue to meditate. Everything has its time.

Also, a pull toward a certain planet does not always mean that your Guardian is connected to that planet. I also have a strong pull toward Mars and Mercury, yet my Guardian is associated with a planet I had not even thought about.

#13

I've never used a pendulum or a Ouija board; I've always thought that human error and chance play too big a role in them, but now that I've reached the point of frustration, I'm ready to do anything

I say go and try them.

#14

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You are welcome! When you just start having visions/ dreams/ signs etc.. and you are not having enough experience, what can happen is you see X and think you saw Y, because of misinterpretation,

To avoid this from happening, the signs you get, search them all in forum, for example you saw a black goat ? Search this in forum, see if its related to a God, or if it means something else etc.. if you saw Saturn, see if this planet is related to a God etc.. use the search bar, if you see a number same thing, this way you will have higher probability of correct interpretation of the experience.

Otherwise, you may see for example your Guardian God, and think it was another God, ( i am not saying you did not see Zeus, its just to explain) for example you said you saw Zeus in multiple forms, search each form in the forum ( do not tell me what you saw), if you do this, you will be impressed by how clear each experience will become. Try to connect the dots, if you do this, not only you will know your guardian God fast, but you will also learn new things. Good luck!

And yes, you’re right I’m a huge skeptic, it seems that’s exactly what the reason has been all along

Yes 100%, you are open but skeptic.

#15

I was skeptical about this method, I thought my mind would start looking for coincidences, or that the pendulum would just point to the first letter it came across. In theory, I had considered using a pendulum, but I was always held back by the thought: what if I make several attempts and the pendulum points to different letters? Then the method would prove ineffective and only confuse me even more. Still, I should give it a try, I'd be surprised if it pointed to the same letters at the very beginning of his name even after three tries in a row. I'll share the result then i gonna try it

You are getting in your own way here, indeed.

Still yourself, mediatate and get your energy right, first; then hold the pendulum steady ( i anchor both elbows on a table in front of me and hold the pendulum with both hands perfectly still before asking my question
TIP: feel free to calibrate it first by asking "Guardian Demon, please show me " yes"... show me "no"... show me "maybe". that way , you know what to look for on your answers and there is no confusion.
let your Guardian have the opportunity to come through. I hope this allows you to know who to address by name, moving forward

#16

I'm curious what's the difference between you and me? Why can the Gods tell that some people openly , while making the others wait for years?

Hello Brother!

I just wanted to say you are not alone in this. It took me a very very long time to learn of my own GD. I use tarot often and would employ it when asking for guidance from my GD. All of these answers would be consistent and helpful. However, when I would ask for a hint as to who they were (for example asking their element) all of a sudden the answers didn't make sense to me and were always contradicting each other. As you can imagine this didn't feel great... I partly took it as my GD saying I wasn't worthy to know their name yet or that they didn't want to associate with me. This of course was not the case, as I have been helped many many times by my GD. The feelings of rejection were from my own insecurities.

What changed is eventually I just accepted that for whatever reason I was not able to understand the sings my GD was giving me, but that's okay. It's not a big deal to know the exact name, as we are always able to contact our GD. Saying "Thank you my GD." is the same as "Thank you specific god.". I instead just focused on my own growth and settled that I would eventually learn their name and it was no big rush. Thanks to knowledge I have gained, years later when I asked directly for signs on who they were I was finally able to understand their signs.

Don't feel pressured or rushed, your GD doesn't think any less of you for not knowing their name as you shouldn't think less of yourself either. It is not something essential to continue your journey, it will naturally come with time.

I know this is a late reply. I wish you luck!

Hail Zeus!

#17

Hello Brother!

I just wanted to say you are not alone in this. It took me a very very long time to learn of my own GD. I use tarot often and would employ it when asking for guidance from my GD. All of these answers would be consistent and helpful. However, when I would ask for a hint as to who they were (for example asking their element) all of a sudden the answers didn't make sense to me and were always contradicting each other. As you can imagine this didn't feel great... I partly took it as my GD saying I wasn't worthy to know their name yet or that they didn't want to associate with me. This of course was not the case, as I have been helped many many times by my GD. The feelings of rejection were from my own insecurities.

What changed is eventually I just accepted that for whatever reason I was not able to understand the sings my GD was giving me, but that's okay. It's not a big deal to know the exact name, as we are always able to contact our GD. Saying "Thank you my GD." is the same as "Thank you specific god.". I instead just focused on my own growth and settled that I would eventually learn their name and it was no big rush. Thanks to knowledge I have gained, years later when I asked directly for signs on who they were I was finally able to understand their signs.

damn, i use tarot a lot, and i tried to used them this way as well to figure it out who it might be! but, no answers, thanks u for urs kind words as well

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#18

You are welcome! When you just start having visions/ dreams/ signs etc.. and you are not having enough experience, what can happen is you see X and think you saw Y, because of misinterpretation,

To avoid this from happening, the signs you get, search them all in forum, for example you saw a black goat ? Search this in forum, see if its related to a God, or if it means something else etc.. if you saw Saturn, see if this planet is related to a God etc.. use the search bar, if you see a number same thing, this way you will have higher probability of correct interpretation of the experience.

Otherwise, you may see for example your Guardian God, and think it was another God, ( i am not saying you did not see Zeus, its just to explain) for example you said you saw Zeus in multiple forms, search each form in the forum ( do not tell me what you saw), if you do this, you will be impressed by how clear each experience will become. Try to connect the dots, if you do this, not only you will know your guardian God fast, but you will also learn new things. Good luck!

Thanks again for your answers, I've done my own research, but the other Gods keep sending me signs. In particular, Astarta, for some unknown reason, sends me a very large number of signs. I also noticed that Nemesis causes me very strong emotions and I really like her, I feel her hug and the way she smiles upon me. I've come to terms with the fact that I may not be able to find out GD's real name, and I even have thoughts that my GD may be outside the famous Pantheon, my GD might be Bes (Imp, Pazuzu, or same creature)

ShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniShaShaniShaniShaniSha

#19

Thanks again for your answers, I've done my own research, but the other Gods keep sending me signs. In particular, Astarta, for some unknown reason, sends me a very large number of signs. I also noticed that Nemesis causes me very strong emotions and I really like her, I feel her hug and the way she smiles upon me. I've come to terms with the fact that I may not be able to find out GD's real name, and I even have thoughts that my GD may be outside the famous Pantheon, my GD might be Bes (Imp, Pazuzu, or same creature)

That is very Good, normally you have a list of Gods who sent you signs, purely by intuition and feeling , who do you think he is, do you have an idea ( purely by feeling)?

Also read everything in forum about each one of them.