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Zevist Identity

Ayleth [NG]

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I’ve recently come across a podcast that talks about identity and what it means in practice. As a disclaimer, I’ll write some information that is taken directly from the podcast, not everything is in my own words.

First do a quick search about the difference between identity and personality. I'll not write it here as it might become too long. It's basically this idea of what makes you you versus what makes you act like you. There's some deeper layers about reincarnation and soul here, but let's first understand it mental-wise.

"We think personality is who you are, but it's actually defined by three characteristics."

1. The way that you perceive information,
2. Your internal reactions to your environment,
3. The way that you behave in response to your environment.


These are tied to cognitive patterns and habits that can block or unblock self-discovery. These 2 points below, 'risk' averse decision making and prioritising comfort are what must be overcome.

Conditioning: how you prioritise what's perceived as "good" or efficient rather than trying to explore what you want. You need to let yourself be in a period of exploration and searching even if it does not make sense for now. In one of his sermons High Priest talked about how it is better to do things and analyse later, not overcomplexifying which results in non-action due to paralysis. See here "How To Succeed In A More Easy Way: Creative Flow Control"

This numbing pain of comfort above all: a strong preference for staying in comfortable, familiar situations. This aversion to discomfort prevents putting oneself in challenging scenarios that could reveal hidden strengths, leading to a feeling of being an "NPC" in one's own life without a "main quest." What's the whole idea about existence even? Is it one part about discovering your unique responses to the world, and see if they make sense to you and your actions? You find what you’re capable of, and you might actually see that it’s above what you thought.


Now that we're hungry for identification, I really want to ask myself and you as well: do you understand what your own Zevist identity is? How do you perceive it?

I want to do this exercise, so I’ll try for now and respond to those three characteristics:

- the way that I perceive information: I recognise I’m feeling-based when it comes to first-time impressions, but I always take a second look, a second breath, and try to analyse what’s in front of me. It’s similar to a mental process of trying to find meaning in what I knew before. (I do try to find sermons that talk about that specific thing or event in my life.) I let a bit of time pass to “digest” the information. It will come up again later, and I can usually see a new perspective on it. The challenge here is to not become passive while waiting. I must search for new things in the meantime or organise the previous ones.
- my internal reactions to the environment: for now, it’s a good mix of pain and drive. It might sound ridiculous, but this also gives me a lot of hope.
- the way that I behave in response to your environment: for this, I could write pages and pages, I’ll leave some thoughts for now:

Zevism for me gives meaning, and it has this “magical” (pun intended) feeling of wonder. There is this 'unseen' spiritual side of the world, the astral realm that I am very curious about: my main force of moving is discovery. After that I see it as something that allows me to witness so many people, patterns, and teachings about everything in life. Yes, some things are very ugly today, or I don’t like everything I see and feel, but every time I come across those, I know there must be something better, something more beautiful and harmonious for our life here.

I truly identify as an Aquarian because I do see the potential in everyone. And this potential is big, very big with us here at the Temple. However, I discovered a fear as well. What happens if this potential stays unmanifested?

The everyday chatting we do in VT, the blessings of the Clergy, the scheduled rituals… I like to know these are part of my identity. It helps not only spiritual wise, but mental, physical and emotional as well. I’m an artist at heart, and I recognise my wording here might sound like “dream big or go home” but what if I want to have both? I haven’t come across any system apart from Zevism that can integrate so many beautiful things together. We see and try to find about the ancient religions and their teachings, and that people before us had a reason to live other than mindless consumption. At the same time, we understand the importance of everyday life, what a good routine does for you, meeting family and friends, having wealth, providing, and creating. I see and feel the love and care of the Gods, and it’s connected with this longing to discover and understand more.

Now I'll pass this to you: what's your Zevist identity?
 
This is a Beautiful Post, thank you NG Ayleth!

In regards to one's identity, I found a similar interpretation in Atomic Habits. We must embody what we wish to become until we build our desired state!
 
I’ve recently come across a podcast that talks about identity and what it means in practice. As a disclaimer, I’ll write some information that is taken directly from the podcast, not everything is in my own words.

First do a quick search about the difference between identity and personality. I'll not write it here as it might become too long. It's basically this idea of what makes you you versus what makes you act like you. There's some deeper layers about reincarnation and soul here, but let's first understand it mental-wise.

"We think personality is who you are, but it's actually defined by three characteristics."

1. The way that you perceive information,
2. Your internal reactions to your environment,
3. The way that you behave in response to your environment.


These are tied to cognitive patterns and habits that can block or unblock self-discovery. These 2 points below, 'risk' averse decision making and prioritising comfort are what must be overcome.

Conditioning: how you prioritise what's perceived as "good" or efficient rather than trying to explore what you want. You need to let yourself be in a period of exploration and searching even if it does not make sense for now. In one of his sermons High Priest talked about how it is better to do things and analyse later, not overcomplexifying which results in non-action due to paralysis. See here "How To Succeed In A More Easy Way: Creative Flow Control"

This numbing pain of comfort above all: a strong preference for staying in comfortable, familiar situations. This aversion to discomfort prevents putting oneself in challenging scenarios that could reveal hidden strengths, leading to a feeling of being an "NPC" in one's own life without a "main quest." What's the whole idea about existence even? Is it one part about discovering your unique responses to the world, and see if they make sense to you and your actions? You find what you’re capable of, and you might actually see that it’s above what you thought.


Now that we're hungry for identification, I really want to ask myself and you as well: do you understand what your own Zevist identity is? How do you perceive it?

I want to do this exercise, so I’ll try for now and respond to those three characteristics:

- the way that I perceive information: I recognise I’m feeling-based when it comes to first-time impressions, but I always take a second look, a second breath, and try to analyse what’s in front of me. It’s similar to a mental process of trying to find meaning in what I knew before. (I do try to find sermons that talk about that specific thing or event in my life.) I let a bit of time pass to “digest” the information. It will come up again later, and I can usually see a new perspective on it. The challenge here is to not become passive while waiting. I must search for new things in the meantime or organise the previous ones.
- my internal reactions to the environment: for now, it’s a good mix of pain and drive. It might sound ridiculous, but this also gives me a lot of hope.
- the way that I behave in response to your environment: for this, I could write pages and pages, I’ll leave some thoughts for now:

Zevism for me gives meaning, and it has this “magical” (pun intended) feeling of wonder. There is this 'unseen' spiritual side of the world, the astral realm that I am very curious about: my main force of moving is discovery. After that I see it as something that allows me to witness so many people, patterns, and teachings about everything in life. Yes, some things are very ugly today, or I don’t like everything I see and feel, but every time I come across those, I know there must be something better, something more beautiful and harmonious for our life here.

I truly identify as an Aquarian because I do see the potential in everyone. And this potential is big, very big with us here at the Temple. However, I discovered a fear as well. What happens if this potential stays unmanifested?

The everyday chatting we do in VT, the blessings of the Clergy, the scheduled rituals… I like to know these are part of my identity. It helps not only spiritual wise, but mental, physical and emotional as well. I’m an artist at heart, and I recognise my wording here might sound like “dream big or go home” but what if I want to have both? I haven’t come across any system apart from Zevism that can integrate so many beautiful things together. We see and try to find about the ancient religions and their teachings, and that people before us had a reason to live other than mindless consumption. At the same time, we understand the importance of everyday life, what a good routine does for you, meeting family and friends, having wealth, providing, and creating. I see and feel the love and care of the Gods, and it’s connected with this longing to discover and understand more.

Now I'll pass this to you: what's your Zevist identity?
First of all, thank you. I enjoy these types of exercises and will most likely benefit from this one gaining a new level of clarity. If I manage to get my thoughts organized in a sufficiently coherent verbal form, which is a challenge on its own, it could be dropped here when done.

Cheers

SWP
 
Now I'll pass this to you: what's your Zevist identity?
I admit having no time to develop my Zevist identity. paradoxically, many things are changing, and opportunities to fulfill myself are spontaneously presenting themselves since my dedication.
The way I look people and how I deal with them take more sense. Although everyone annoys me (by default), I am becoming more understanding and making an effort to be constructive because relationships are more precious than I previously though.

In fact, my changes are take in charge by my Guardian and I thank him for that, even though I never contact him :)
 
Being a Zevist is being a Pagan. The difference is that as esoteric, serious Pagans, we truly try to connect with the Gods and our deeper natures. There are few non-Zevist Pagans out there who can say the same.

I fundementally see it as a religion, a spiritual brotherhood we're united by, through blood as well. I've been an occult researcher ( I won't say practinioner as I didn't really do any practices) for a few years and what repulsed me more than anything was how abrahamic garbage was/is saturated ALL OVER different spiritual, new age, occult and gnostic groups. Some jesus here, some kabbalah there, some sophia/demiurge/angels bullshit over there. It never fucking ended.

It didn't help that by that time I was researching occultism and freemasonry I already had given up on christianity and everything abrahamic, so to see the hebrew everywhere I went wasn't good, and this was BEFORE I was fully aware of how bad jews and their influence on the world were. That didn't stop me for some reason for considering kabbalah back then, as it felt like it was the only real occult system out there, at least in the west. What truly prevented me from going into kabbalah though was the various moral and scientific issues I had with the bible.

So what instantly earned my respect for the TOZ/JOS was the complete rejection of everything abrahamic, and not shying away from calling out the jews, and going deeper on the jewish issue, showing me that it was worse than I even thought. However, it was mainly the revelation of a purely Pagan occult system that truly drew me in.

I wouldn't seperate Zevism from Paganism, it is more like the heart/brain of Paganism itself. However, I won't say that my animosity towards the abrahamic religions and other jewish garbage like leftism doesn't play a significant part in my Zevist identity.
 
I admit having no time to develop my Zevist identity
I agree with this statement. Personally, I think that creating an identity around Zevism misses the point. Personality or ego is something we are trying dissolve here. Not destroy, but understand that humanity and consciousness comes from something much deeper and interconnected. Zevism is a level of understanding. We are all in agreement that we are here for the betterment and evolution of humanity through the Gods. Fully understandings our entire being and expansion is the goal. It is forever changing as humanity evolves
 
Personality or ego is something we are trying dissolve here.

That's not true. We're trying to develop our ego and personalities and make them stronger. That's natural and everyone does it, even the "anti-ego" types who ironically develop an ego around not having an ego. The only way you can truly erase your ego and personality is if you spiritually and technologically fuse your conciousness into a hivemind, like a borg or a grey. We're not buddhists or jews.

That being said, ego should be developed in harmony with the collective or group. Balance is key. These concepts of radical individualism or radical collectivism are both jewish, since both are anti-life, so naturally jews were the founders and main promoters of both.
 
I had a similar realization, that our personality and identity are two distinct functions, when I began performing the Pythagorean meditation shared by our High Priest! (Increasing Conscious Awareness meditation)
It became incredibly clear to me that our immediate feelings feed into reactions that are products of our environmental programming and limiting beliefs. It's not that this idea led to me having a lack of trust in myself, but that I could trust that each feeling and thought was valuable information about myself (who I have been) and that I could use this as fuel to be more consciously aware next time (into who I want to become).
I feel like this is the single most important key for healing and incorporating being a more reflective and open-to-change kind of person. Thank you for sharing NG Ayleth!! I appreciate you providing us with an outline of your own, you're a very thoughtful person and always interested in growing and overcoming all obstacles which is something very admirable for all Zevists! You're an inspiration.
How I view being a Zevist is having the most important duty in the universe. We have to be ethical, ever-evolving, honourable, with our sights set on the Gods at all times. This is how we will stop being part of the NPC-mass-mind and instead take the reigns in the world and in our own lives. I hope I grow into this vision more each day, and that this vision becomes clearer with research and knowledge from our Eternal Temple and Clergy. The occult aspect of Zevism is incredibly deep and of unavoidable importance, it is how we will complete ourselves and our part in Father Zeus's great work. The effects of my studying into this has been like enabling 'cheatcodes' in my existence, which of course opens countless doors of further responsibility and this makes a Zevist life have Divine purpose and be much more meaningful. We need to have endless faith in our capabilities, in the path, in the Gods at all times. Whether we realize it or not, the Gods are always with us and want us to become the best version of ourselves. None of our good will or hopes or dreams will go unnoticed, especially if we are journaling and writing & saying our prayers to our Guardian and Father Zeus daily. I had this realization whilst completing the Zevist CV. It is up to us to dream really really REALLY big, set clear and attainable goals to get there, and we shall call the universe into accordance with our Will through our intentions, actions, and magick.

My Zevist Identity and my perception of it in a very simplified nutshell:

~ The way that I perceive information;
I practice reflective/active awareness (as in the Pythagorean meditation) as much as possible when perceiving information. I try to expose flaws in my initial reactions and feelings, especially if these are negative at first, and come to a more complete understanding of the situation, while having empathy for myself and my own past/current experiences for a greater sense of growth (I know that I don't know everything). I am probably similarly feeling-based and right-side of the brain dominant.
I try to view everything through a Zevist-lens as much as possible, knowing what I do from reading the ToZ and understanding that much of the world is at a certain level due to a lack of evolution and people being without the Gods and spiritual practices. I am usually able to rationalize from this viewpoint, keeping in mind that I am also young and need to have more life experience for greater understanding in general. There is much to learn from all angles! I try to keep an open mind always and refer to Zevist Ethics and teachings in various Clergy sermons, as well as what I have learned from Mentors throughout my life.

~ My internal reactions to the environment;
My internal reactions are usually sharp and immediate, I feel/understand things with my gut first and usually very strongly. I see this as my strength more and more each day as I gain control of my mind.
I believe my internal reactions are informed a lot by the ways I was parented since I used to become very defensive out of instinct (which used to make me incredibly emotional, but I have phased out of this almost entirely with plenty of healing/purification!) and I think it is how I coped with being perceived by the outside world. Otherwise, I am very open and loving with my family and friends and people I have an understanding with. I do think I am a very unpredictable/internally-incongruous person but this is also reflected in my natal chart really clearly and makes me an interesting and unique person which is a trait I have come to love and appreciate about myself.
I take challenges and discomfort with a lot of humour and not personally as much anymore since I have a lot of empathy and physically feel how others are feeling. This has allowed me to transmute energy very usefully. I am proud of how much I have grown to trust myself and as a whole with the stability of the Zevist path in my life!!

~ The way that I behave in response to the environment;
Usually I find enough clarity when I do my best to synthesize my perceptions/thoughts and my reactions into conscious awareness. This helps me have honourable and ethical behaviour in all aspects of my life because of how I strongly identify with my sense of purpose (to be closer to the Gods and my potential as a Zevist) and always gleaning information that I can learn from to help me be even better. I am often found asking for knowledge and feedback from trusted loved ones about dilemmas I am facing, these are people who I respect for their own proven and tested mettle and actions (role models, people I admire and hope to be more like or want to come to understand). My behaviour is firmly guided by etiquette and my principles as I practice the Golden Rule (treat others how you would like to be treated) always, even in conflicts as much as possible. It is important to me to make decisions consciously and use different kinds of meditation/magick as far as possible to assist me. We certainly are what we repeatedly do! We have to view each new day and action as a new opportunity to evolve, to shape destiny and the world around me.

I hope to have even better answers in 5 years from now, so I will plan how to get there! Thank you, NG!
 
That's not true. We're trying to develop our ego and personalities and make them stronger. That's natural and everyone does it, even the "anti-ego" types who ironically develop an ego around not having an ego. The only way you can truly erase your ego and personality is if you spiritually and technologically fuse your conciousness into a hivemind, like a borg or a grey. We're not buddhists or jews
I agree with you brother. What I was trying to explain is that adding the mask of Zevism isn't going to develop the ego for integration with the soul. By dissolving negative aspects of the ego to make space for the soul is what I was trying to portray. That adding another layer of ego without first removing the programing of the modern day can hinder progress. We need our egos to be strong and pure. Not just another mask.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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