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Why do people pleasers get hurt

The Phantom Stranger

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If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.
 
The world is a rough place for limitless and with no boundaries love, empathy, and so on. One needs to know when, where and with whom to use these, and better yet involve these attributes of the soul that are beautiful, creative, and purposeful forces in life. Creating and building.

Do not let anyone disengage you from loving life and people, but know that the return will not come always, and sometimes you'll receive the opposite. You do this for your soul, people alike, and Gods, your satisfaction and desire, not to receive back by expectation as you'll find either way a better reward internally.

As long as there is a fundamental understanding of how life works, and the drives and psychology of people, you should never be influenced to not be loving and empathic. But rather grow the other side as well, and learn the opposite in as much for your safety, survival, balance, and advancement.

Not all people can deserve you, and you can still serve them, yet to a degree.

In regards to the love life of people, disappointments, and tragedies, there are always things to ponder suffering and pessimism about in this world. To a degree and I will sound horrible, each of them and us, have a choice and a naturally deserved outcome of everything that happens. Look inwardly for responsibility so then you have the power to change.
 
NakedPluto said:
The world is a rough place for limitless and with no boundaries love, empathy, and so on. One needs to know when, where and with whom to use these, and better yet involve these attributes of the soul that are beautiful, creative, and purposeful forces in life. Creating and building.

Do not let anyone disengage you from loving life and people, but know that the return will not come always, and sometimes you'll receive the opposite. You do this for your soul, people alike, and Gods, your satisfaction and desire, not to receive back by expectation as you'll find either way a better reward internally.

As long as there is a fundamental understanding of how life works, and the drives and psychology of people, you should never be influenced to not be loving and empathic. But rather grow the other side as well, and learn the opposite in as much for your safety, survival, balance, and advancement.

Not all people can deserve you, and you can still serve them, yet to a degree.

In regards to the love life of people, disappointments, and tragedies, there are always things to ponder suffering and pessimism about in this world. To a degree and I will sound horrible, each of them and us, have a choice and a naturally deserved outcome of everything that happens. Look inwardly for responsibility so then you have the power to change.

This is very succinct, and I’m glad I read this. Thank you for an insightful post brother/sister in our true Gods!
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.

Thanks bro.  I have joined the army also bro by starting FRTR! How you doin btw
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=456096 time=1690747872 user_id=21286]
The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.

This applies to violence and war also? Like as we engage in war does that mean that because we give destruction we will get that back too? Is that why defense is more important than offense?
 

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