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Who created bodybuilding?

K, I'm into being fit... but that's it.... fit. There is legit a limit to how much muscle is healthy, you do not need to look like you're having a hard time breathing. I mean how do you even do yoga when it looks like your body is swollen like a tumour?

That has got to be doing something terrible to ligaments, tendons, soft-tissue and the circulatory system. I have very strong legs (probably a Sagittarius thing) and they no where near look like straight beef, but even just as they are, crouching and 'sitting' on my calves is still as uncomfortable as sitting on a protruding rock that feels like it's trying to burst out of my skin.

I can't imagine living with muscles the lot of these body builders(destroyers) have.
 
sonnenkraft said:
the perfect and healthy body appearance should look like GREEK GODS

Some are going to argue and tell you that those statues represent the bodybuilding physique, when all evidence points away from it, including the fact that bodybuilding didn't exist when Ancient Greek statues were molded.
 
Probably they are compensating for other inferiorities. I saw a programme where the presenter was doing a documentary about men, and it was about bodybuilding. One White man didn't care that his routine probably would kill him within 10 years. He wore clingfilm (plastic food wrap) around his waist and kept on pushing himself, from what I can remember. What is this mentality? Live fast, die young? In another programme, about fake products, a White teen or 20-something year old bought some fake tablets online and he died from them. Sheeple are so closed-minded and braindead.
 
sonnenkraft said:
No need to offend gays, having a good looking butt is something both for hetero and gays, a lot of girls like good looking butt. It's not femminine in any way.

I do agree that balance is needed in the body. If you look at the Greek Gods, they are balanced, if anything there is both something femminine and masculine in their body which I love, they are perfect and balanced, not too much nor too little.

Bodybuilders look disgusting and not balanced at all, both men's and woman's.
How can you think that a body like that is attractive, it's really disgusting and stupid.
 
Having a lot of muscle isn’t really unhealthy if it’s built in a healthy way. Without drugs. It gets unhealthy when the body fat levels get too low.

Each person has a more or less a genetic limit to how much muscle they can put on. The body already has genetic code that understands the max a body can handle. The steroids can nullify that and put a person at dangerous levels. Then with body building the fat percentages must be so low, they’re destroying their bodies when they use drugs and have such low fat levels.

There are natural body building competitions, but again the body fat levels needed for them cause the same problems.
 
Well, four years ago I got motivated to become fit and change my appearance. I started sifting through this world of delusional broscience and all chemicals + snake oil supplements involved. In the end I realized that every body has its own genetical limits and it would be wise not to push them with roids, not to mention the havoc artificial hormones cause to your own natural systems. Look at all those retired builders, how abused and deflated they look. Some die even before getting old, check out Rich Piana and his story. Before his untimely passing he had some major plastic surgery done to his face. He looked grotesque and alien. I've seen dudes with fucked up knees, elbows, shoulders and other problems that are directly caused by lifting too much too often. Ones own bodyweight should be taken as a safety limit when lifting.
Finally, what's the point of living in a gym 6 days a week and feeling like shit because of muh diet? Reasonable strength and cardio stamina can be had without getting into masochism.
 
Stormblood said:
Warning: this may hurt the feelings of some little snowflakes and I'm not even posting scientific, technical data against bodybuillding.

Bodybuilding as it is today was created by the Yehubor Eugen Sandow, born from two Yehuborim. (born Friedrich Wilhelm Müller)

He was the pupil of Ludwig Durlacher, another notorious Yehubor of the time. He visited India in 1905 and scholar John Alter, a medical anthropologist, claims Eugen was the person who the most influence on modern Westernised yoga. So he corrupted yoga too (not the one we SS use, but the one popular among NPCs). He died of brain hemorrhage.



Makes sense. Scientifically speaking body building is a disaster. Machine exercises work certain muscles for certain positions. That's why a lot of body builders tear something or balloon tf up and look fat. Also the bigger you are the less range of motion you have. An effective body needs balance of both none machine workouts and some with weights and resistance. Work out the entire body, not just bits and pieces of it. I always saw that type of physique as for decoration rather than effectiveness. Another thing is the diet requires to have that type of body. Too much protein, a bunch of supplements, eat more than usual to sustain all those muscles, etc.
 
I discuss bodybuilding here:

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An indictment of the (ill) health and (un)fitness industry

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I find this to be a really interesting topic since I actually weight train myself.

In a positive manner, I have never had the kinds of ideals that these 'modern' bodybuilders have. The unnecessary amount of muscle just looked so unhealthy in my mind. I knew that these men and women took steroids and drastically changed their diets in order to make significant changes to their body. These 'athletes' die young and wreak havoc on their bones. It's like those people on My 600-lb Life, except they have muscle, and muscle is more compact than fat which means it can be packed a lot. Either way, too much fat/muscle is both physically gross to look at and unhealthy.

I don't 'train' to look like these gigolos. Since I'm female, our bodies naturally have more body-fat than the average male because of child rearing. It's a healthy for me to keep a good amount, especially since I want kids. If anything, I combine weight training with other cardio-workouts and self-utilizing exercises for me to keep a healthy figure. I use weight training to make my figure more lean and not constantly packing more muscle onto me. I look at it as more of a balancing exercise if my figure gets out of hand. Extreme bodybuilders are practically throwing their bodies out of a homeostasis. The more muscle they pack, the more stiff and less flexible they become.

Eric13 said:
Having a lot of muscle isn’t really unhealthy if it’s built in a healthy way. Without drugs. It gets unhealthy when the body fat levels get too low.

I agree with this. I personally am more attracted to guys who do have some muscle, but not looking like veiny vomit. I wouldn't like it if they practically lived at the gym, either. They have to rest for a bit after each session. Even then, it's good to take a break from strenuous workout.
 
On a related note, it would be interesting to give out some statistical information about attractiveness and body fat percentage.

A few years ago, we ran a survey where we asked women to rate the attractiveness of various male bodies. We presented them with photos of male torsos, heads cropped off, and they told us which of the bodies they found the most attractive. We also asked them why they found some male bodies more attractive than others.

Some of those photo arrays were designed to see whether women preferred men with healthy body-fat percentages, and they did:
most-attractive-male-body-fat-percentage-too-lean-abs.jpg

In this photo array, 58% of women chose a man with a body fat-percentage of around 14%.

This was as expected. Women were picking the men with lower body-fat percentages because those lower body-fat percentages were healthier. But what happens when we drop the body-fat even lower?

Other photo arrays were designed to see whether women preferred men with abs. They didn’t:
what-body-fat-percentage-do-women-find-most-attractive-abs-too-lean.jpg

Here, 63% of women found a body-fat percentage of around 13% the most attractive, preferring it it to the physiques of guys with more chiseled abs.
what-body-fat-percentage-do-women-find-most-attractive-abs.jpg

In this photo array, 82% of women chose the guy with a body-fat percentage of around 14%, greatly preferring it to the more muscular, shredded physiques.

The next thing we did was ask women why they found some physiques more attractive than others. Here are some direct quotes from their survey responses:

It looks the most natural/normal.

It looks healthy and not overdone!

Fit but not overdone.

I don’t find particularly defined abdominal muscles nice looking.

I don’t like overly defined abs. It’s less natural looking.

He isn’t disgustingly ripped.

Not excessively ripped!

Not too overboard in fitness

Healthy, toned, but not too much. The others are a little too intense.

Looks healthy, young, and not overly defined

The abs don’t pop out as much, it looks more like a body of someone who is fit because of a sport as opposed to someone who does it for looks.

What’s the most attractive male body-fat percentage?

Overall, it seems like all of the research lines up quite neatly. Women prefer men who look healthy and strong, which means a body-fat percentage of 8–20%, with the majority of women preferring men with a body-fat percentage somewhere in the middle.
(Which would mean 16-18%)

Source
https://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/the-most-attractive-male-body-fat-percentage-is-it-possible-to-be-too-lean/

Everyone should read this study. I only copied the attractiveness part to catch your attention. The real important thing is not doing it for external validation but for yourself. The article discusses studies in the earlier Portion which proves a lower Body fat makes you healthier produces more testosterone, less anxiety, less chances of disease and a plethora of other things.

The idea of masculinity does not mean dominating others. At the very base of the idea of manhood is control over your actions. And the first thing you can control is what you put in your mouth (pun not intended) and how you workout to be healthy in this dystopian world where everyone else is eating cancerous processed foods and junk food. I advice taking up strength training. But before that people should train in bodyweight mastery as Brother Stormblood explained people can't do squats and go on to lift barbells.
https://kinobody.com/pages/sales-page-bmp
(I have this and I can post for free of anyone is interested. )

https://bonytobombshell.com/bombshell-aesthetics-building-attractive-female-body-imaginable/
(Related to women.)
 
Jack said:
Overall, it seems like all of the research lines up quite neatly. Women prefer men who look healthy and strong, which means a body-fat percentage of 8–20%, with the majority of women preferring men with a body-fat percentage somewhere in the middle.
(Which would mean 16-18%)
This is just the average .The preferable body fat percentage is 14%.
 
The original gyms in the images of them only had gymnastic equipment and some kettle bells. Gymnastics' such as training on rings is some of the hardest exercises and they build strength and physique.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
The original gyms in the images of them only had gymnastic equipment and some kettle bells. Gymnastics' such as training on rings is some of the hardest exercises and they build strength and physique.
Original gyms?
It seems in ancient times, like in Greece, along with body weight and similar movements, they used a variety of resistance methods as well. Like use of stones, logs and other accessible items.

I think, when maximizing strength and conditioning, you’ll need a variety of resistance training exercises at some point. To an extent.
 
sonnenkraft said:

What's your take on his alleged Freikörperkultur involvement and the fact he was exiled from the party due to public masturbation? I'm not too fond of the former honestly. I like shirtless but I think that full naked is going overboard. The latter I think it's most likely enemy propaganda.
 

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