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What can be considered a Zevist "sin"?

inimigo99 said:
-circumvent a national law to evade taxes,
-Having sex with a person of another race just for fun,
-becoming a politician in a degenerate and multi-racial country like Brazil and diverting public money for their own benefit, (To be honest I already had the idea of doing this, since Brazil is a degenerate multiracial country which I hate and I myself have racial identity issues as well, but in the face of more noble and greater causes I abandoned this idea)
-Working with companies that promote eugenic vectors that kill / make innocent people sick, however, for a racial cause....

These are personal issues and have nothing to do with Satan. Some of them are stupid for personal reasons.

Zevism isn't Christianity where you do things just to please some external being. The things advised/discouraged here are for your own benefit.

Race mixing is bad not because it displeases some external being, but because it breaks down the genetics and destroys the sense of personal and cultural identity.

Doing illegal things are stupid because the enemy already hates Zevists, and when a Zevist does illegal things it makes the enemy's job to get rid of us easier.

As about things that make Satan personally angry, yes there are, but not as many as you think, and these have nothing to do with your personal life but concern Satan directly or his Demons or the people he protects. Abusing the Demons using jewish grimoire methods is one of these. Attacking a Zevist is another.
 
inimigo99 said:
Henu the Great said:
inimigo99 said:
Is there anything in Zevism that can be equated with xianity's concept of "sin"? Just to illustrate and explain.
To put it shortly, stupidity. No, I'm not bashing you. It's in the ToZ web page.

"Stupidity" is literally subjective and relative and even if it was not, an act considered "stupid" could only be harmful to myself and not necessarily a "sin" against God.

Great! Looks like you're starting to get it. There's no concept of a "sin" against an external being in Zevism. Stupidity being a "sin" in an allegorical way means exactly that, it's harmful to your own advancement in Zevism.

I need to remind you about the purpose of Zevism. Forget the idea you have from Christianity. Zevism is empowerment of humanity and yourself with Satan's help. Satan is the bringer of knowledge and he expects us to apply that knowledge in transforming ourselves Spiritually. But it's not a completely selfish thing, we do honor and help Satan in exchange for that. It's only proper to help him and the Demons in return. There are those selfish people who don't care about Satan, but doesn't mean he is angry against them. He just doesn't waste time with them, and only cares for his loyal people.

What's more important in Zevism is to avoid things that are bad to your own advancement and do things that help you advance because Zevism is centered on your spiritual advancement and not pleasing an external being. There are things that make Satan angry, but I can assure you if you are a loyal Zevist you won't be likely to do any of these. It's not things that you can do by accident or without knowing, you have to really hate Satan or your fellow Zevists to do any of those.
 
The Al Jilwah the Black Book of Satan
https://www.templeofzeus.org/Al_Jilwah.html
 
Damon said:
inimigo99 said:
-circumvent a national law to evade taxes,
-Having sex with a person of another race just for fun,
-becoming a politician in a degenerate and multi-racial country like Brazil and diverting public money for their own benefit, (To be honest I already had the idea of doing this, since Brazil is a degenerate multiracial country which I hate and I myself have racial identity issues as well, but in the face of more noble and greater causes I abandoned this idea)
-Working with companies that promote eugenic vectors that kill / make innocent people sick, however, for a racial cause....

These are personal issues and have nothing to do with Satan. Some of them are stupid for personal reasons.

Zevism isn't Christianity where you do things just to please some external being. The things advised/discouraged here are for your own benefit.

Race mixing is bad not because it displeases some external being, but because it breaks down the genetics and destroys the sense of personal and cultural identity.

Doing illegal things are stupid because the enemy already hates Zevists, and when a Zevist does illegal things it makes the enemy's job to get rid of us easier.

As about things that make Satan personally angry, yes there are, but not as many as you think, and these have nothing to do with your personal life but concern Satan directly or his Demons or the people he protects. Abusing the Demons using jewish grimoire methods is one of these. Attacking a Zevist is another.

This is probably the most accurate and realistic answer for the most part in this thread in my opinion.

Satan allows us to have freedom but your choices can be largely looked down upon and discouraged for the betterment of yourself and your own kind as well as in just being realistic.

If a black for instance decided they'd fuck white woman 'just for fun', I don't care who you are that's going to piss me off and be disgusted with hatred towards that individual with a burning passion, sure they had the 'freedom to do it' but they'll still have to deal with the consequences of their own actions and face mine or other people's hatred, disgust and rage towards them, even very direct hostility. I believe in 'the ancient times' race traitors like that were actually burned to death.

You must be responsible for your own actions and whatever is wrought upon you from it, you have the so-called 'freedom' to be a prick but if you get the shit kicked out of you for it nobody's coming to save your ass. There's realizing you made an honest mistake and then there's knowing you're fucking up or doing something considered immoral that will sincerely upset others but still do it anyways even though you have full control over yourself not to do it and are just fulfilling your own assholeish desires.

To me the only real sin is betraying Satan, there is nothing else to me that could possibly be worse than that. Other than that there is no 'sin' and you ultimately just pay the price of your own actions and take liability for any consequences that realistically arise from them, this includes the bad and toxic karma you build to your soul in doing it. That's how it works, and when shit hits the fan you will have to learn harshly from your mistakes, in that you can't come crying to 'Daddy' because you thought it'd be funny to rip off honest good working people who did you no wrong for your own benefit and then have an angry mob at your door or a hitman hunting you down. I assure you from my own experiences when I was an xian corrupted and sadistic prick many, many years ago while I was new on this path that there will be no rescuing or comfort when your actions backfire on you, just a very stern "You did this, you own up to it, face the consequences of your own actions and grow up".

That was the only way I changed for the better though, in the realistic Zevist world there is no fucking up then asking for forgiveness just so you can keep fucking up, there's only taking liability for your actions, owning up to your own stupidity and putting in the effort to change for the better so you stop digging yourself a pit of guilt, remorse and emotional pain in a cycle that only stops when you quit feeding it.
 
inimigo99 said:
If you were an old ToZ's member or a Priest, I could trust in your words, but you joined in Nov 09, 2020.

You do know that someone doesn't have to join a forum to be a member, that he can just practice on his own and lurk in an online community for years before joining it, right? Or that one can create a new account in the forum after having previous ones there? Or that before the forums there were ToZ Yahoo groups for 2 decades and that one can make a new account in the forums after having been in the Yahoo groups for over 10 years? A new account doesn't prove that someone is a new member.

You don't have to "trust in my words", but use your logic and common sense. A superior being doesn't waster time being angry at unimportant to him people, but cares for his own. Zevism isn't about blindly trusting others. Besides that it's been actually mentioned on the ToZ site:

[Concerning those who only care about themselves and see Zevism as a religion only for the self and disregard Satan]
"They are of no importance to me." -Satan
 
inimigo99 said:
it is easier for you to be a National Socialist than for me.
You are Nordic and live in Finland, I am miscegenated and I live in Brazil ... although I have started to understand a little bit of National-socialism because I am studying about it, I have many doubts, because what would be possible to implement in a European, African, Asian or even other of South America countries (that are more racially homogeneous), it would not be possible to implement in the same way in Brazil due to the great extent of the country and due to its very multi-racial and diversified nature.
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I have doubts about my own racial nature, I have doubts about Zevism and how I could be a National Socialist considering my conditions and the conditions of my country ... there are many doubts really.
Actually, I'm not Nordic but Aryan. :D

You have doubts, and that's fine as long as you study, learn and advance and in time you will have clarity. Keep on going, don't give up.

inimigo99 said:
By law it is a crime to be or have any connection with WW2 regime, also by law it is mandatory to take the covid-19 vaccine.

Should I obey the law literally?
Should I forget about ToZ altogether and vaccinate my whole family?

Law is what lawmakers have decided to be law, it is not inherently correct. (here in Brazil there is still the aggravation that almost every legislator is corrupt.)

If you say that there is no such thing as "Zevist guidelines", then it would imply that one could be a Zevist and Communist or that one could be a Zevist and pray to "Yehubor's leader" ... that is not true.

Several personal issues of mine (especially the racial one) are complex and I am passionate about Zevism, I want to evolve as much as possible and complete Magnum opus one day ... my actions have to be aligned with Zevism, I cannot be hypocritical and I wanted to know the guidelines of Satan, because even HP.Zevios has some mistaken beliefs regarding racial issues (I say this with extreme humility and respect, he is much superior than me, but there are still some things that he stated about racial issues that don't match the reality I see, and I have to trust what I see happening)

I will continue to seek the answers I need, but in another way ... I don't want to continue debating my personal convictions with you, it doesn't make sense.
That's where common sense comes in. Like I said, stupidity is endagering yourself or others. For example you don't go out to shout to everyone how you are a Zevist and WW2 regime is for the win. It's also stupid to take the covid shot. It's literally an IQ test, and anyone with a sane mind should avoid it all costs.

I'm saying that there is no Zevist guideline in the way you typed earlier, like a written book or ten commandements. Sure we have sermons by clergy which may contain info related by Gods or simply hundereds of hours of study compressed to a few pages, but nothing like Yehubor have for Gentile consumption.

As we advance as a whole and individually our questions will be answered.
 
NinRick said:
Not with the dominant race, he should find someone who equally racemixed like him.
Why?

When going with the dominant race then eventually as offspring does the same the blood line will purify.

If one does as you say the mixing stays.

As far as I know this would be the way to go, but as always I'm happy to learn more if I'm wrong.
 
NinRick said:
If a pure white woman, gets pregnant from a black/white dude, there is a good chance that the child won‘t be pure white.

This was an example.

Also, if mixed people only get children from other mixed people, who are equally mixed, after many generations there is a good chance that the dominant race comes forth.

If white/black people fuck white people, they will never get pure white people.

HP HC said it (if I remember correctly) that you should get a partner that looks like you, racially speaking.

So if you are white, you are only „allowed“ to have white partners.

If you are mixed, you go for people who are equally mixed.

If you don’t do so, you are actively race mixing, ans you destroy pure bloodlines.
White is not the dominant race when we are talking about a mixed race person... So a mulatto would need to breed with a black person in your example...
 
Henu the Great said:
NinRick said:
If a pure white woman, gets pregnant from a black/white dude, there is a good chance that the child won‘t be pure white.

This was an example.

Also, if mixed people only get children from other mixed people, who are equally mixed, after many generations there is a good chance that the dominant race comes forth.

If white/black people fuck white people, they will never get pure white people.

HP HC said it (if I remember correctly) that you should get a partner that looks like you, racially speaking.

So if you are white, you are only „allowed“ to have white partners.

If you are mixed, you go for people who are equally mixed.

If you don’t do so, you are actively race mixing, ans you destroy pure bloodlines.
White is not the dominant race when we are talking about a mixed race person... So a mulatto would need to breed with a black person in your example...


True now I understand what you mean with „dominant“ xD

Yes you are right, if a mulatto chooses to have a child with a black person, the child would be very black. In few generations they would be pure black again.

But if a mulatto and another mulatto who are equally mixed mate, they could (after many generations) turn white again (or black)
 
inimigo99 said:
In a religious context, sin is a transgression against divine law.

In xianity, for example, it means that whoever commits sin is no longer in accord with the xian religion and will no longer be well liked by the "god" of xianity.

Is there anything in Zevism that can be equated with xianity's concept of "sin"? Just to illustrate and explain.

Obvious things like being a communist or siding with abrahamic religions need not be said to be against God, (my heart already hated communism and abrahamic religions before I even imagined that Zevism existed, so when I first met Zevism, my adherence to this religion was, practically, instantaneous), but things that are not obvious I need clarification because I genuinely am afraid to do things that dislike my God who is Satan and no longer be "well liked" by him.

For example:
-circumvent a national law to evade taxes,
-Having sex with a person of another race just for fun,
-becoming a politician in a degenerate and multi-racial country like Brazil and diverting public money for their own benefit, (To be honest I already had the idea of doing this, since Brazil is a degenerate multiracial country which I hate and I myself have racial identity issues as well, but in the face of more noble and greater causes I abandoned this idea)
-Working with companies that promote eugenic vectors that kill / make innocent people sick, however, for a racial cause....

and so on ...

Would that be against Zevism? "Moral" and "justice" are relative concepts ...

I already read Al-Jilwah and did not find the answers to my questions.
I have been studying the TEMPLE OF ZEUS encyclopedia, but I haven't found the answers to my questions clearly.

Also, a very personal and important issue for me, and that has to do with this topic, is my particular "racial situation", HPHC and Jack have given me guidance previously, but I still have a lot of insecurities, internal conflicts and doubts ...




There’s nothing in Zevism that would cause you to be “booted from hell” or rejected by Satan other than joining the yehuborim. There’s definitely higher decrees that a person would naturally follow or desire to follow with advancement that also follow along Satan’s will, like not having the desire to race mix by default without hearing it from an external source that it is wrong. It can be hard for people to view Zevism outside of a boxed mind, because even when a person joins they tend to carry this ideology of sin and self-destructiveness into Zevism subconsciously. Sin doesn’t really exist. Morality is a joke. There are things like society given by the gods and actions that promote a better society that a person can choose to follow. Spiritual advancement and preservation of humanity are the Gods MAIN concern in dealing with their people, so anything that helps us to advance are favorable actions a person can take.
 
Imo lies, deception and anything restricting awareness. Untruth in a situation or when it's ruling how one is/acts in life.

The opposite "virtue" would be adherence to truth (which is measurable), advancement and the extent of awareness of the truth, coupled with what the person is doing with this awareness. I'd say the "virtue" part would be mainly the latter bit, and to have deep awareness and powerful means but not act on them for the benefit of yourself and everyone is injustice especially in current circumstances.

Yehubor-o xian words are lame though we need new ones. This stuff should just be simple to people and easily spoken not a chunky english paragraph I wrote while some here might not understand it. It's just shit, we should all speak Latin again or something :lol:
 
OhSaalo said:
I don't think that Morality or Justice are so "relative".

They are. You can see everywhere people who do horrible stuff and still think they're the good guys. yehuborim for example. They think the "goyim" are evil animals. Everybody thinks he is the good guy. There are many psychological studies on prisoners, they show that the majority of them think that they did nothing wrong and that they are victims of a cruel society.

But whether morality is relative is irrelevant. What it matters is some things are better to do and others better not to do. We can all agree on that. Plus if you are coming from this way of thinking you're more likely to do these things that help and avoid the things that do not help as you can logically justify them that they are for your benefit and for the benefit of humanity. The Christian way in which you do or don't do certain things just to avoid punishment not only is irrational but it doesn't work either. Most who view morality this way are hypocrites and keep doing the things they think are wrong and keep repenting and after that keep sinning...ad nauseam.
 
Damon said:
OhSaalo said:
I don't think that Morality or Justice are so "relative".

They are. You can see everywhere people who do horrible stuff and still think they're the good guys. yehuborim for example. They think the "goyim" are evil animals. Everybody thinks he is the good guy. There are many psychological studies on prisoners, they show that the majority of them think that they did nothing wrong and that they are victims of a cruel society.

But whether morality is relative is irrelevant. What it matters is some things are better to do and others better not to do. We can all agree on that. Plus if you are coming from this way of thinking you're more likely to do these things that help and avoid the things that do not help as you can logically justify them that they are for your benefit and for the benefit of humanity. The Christian way in which you do or don't do certain things just to avoid punishment not only is irrational but it doesn't work either. Most who view morality this way are hypocrites and keep doing the things they think are wrong and keep repenting and after that keep sinning...ad nauseam.
Well I mean that just because someone thinks a certain way doesn't make them right or wrong. Even if prisoners think they're right or not, one can still objectively say that they were wrong when the facts and proof line up. Similarly, a jew can think all they want, the truth remains true regardless. It won't bend and create a separate exception just for some rat-faced rapists.

Because there is only one Truth in this world of things, regardless what we want, that is how it is. And there is the Truth on what is Moral and Just, regardless of what we want.

Which only helps us; since we follow the True Truth, regardless of opinions of anyone. Hence, we should follow that, since Satan stands for Truth, Morality, and Justice. His literal name means "Truth" in Sanskrit.
 
inimigo99 said:
Yours analyzes is very superficial.
You two are considering whether someone is "purebred" or "mixed" and the racial decisions that someone should make based only on someone's appearance, that is quite superficial.
Oh please. Save the lecture about race mixing.

What you said about phenotype and genotype I know aswell.

What I don't know is what kind of ancestry and your genes so what are you? Are you white descendant, or descendant of another race? That should be the ruling factor in your mating choice, and may I add that if you are white descendant then why do you fantasize about white Brazil when you belong to Europe..?
 

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