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What about banning and prosecuting smoking?

Sunny

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Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔
 
Sunny said:
Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔
Personally, I would not ban it, but I would heavily propagandise against smoking and other harmful substances (alcohol, drugs, etc.).

It will be socially acceptable to criticise people who smoke and drink alcohol, and it will be absolutely frowned upon as an action.

This can be counteracted by raising prices. But in time, there will not even be a memory of the existence of cigarettes or anything else.

If one is stupid, he will be able to destroy himself with tobacco and alcohol, life is his own.
But these poisons will not be promoted, they will be publicly attacked and anyone who smuggles these substances will receive large fines or even jail time.

Essentially, anyone who uses them will be seen as a low soul, there will be many concessions to stop consuming poisons.
On the other hand, those who smuggle them will be seen as enemies of the people.

In time the business of tobacco, alcohol, etc. will disappear.

To give you a shorter answer, I do not forbid it, but I direct the world to hate it until it disappears forever.
 
Well banning something makes it more attractive, "rebellious", "cool" etc.
What is needed is a proper explanation as for why something is not good and also present good alternatives. Too bad the best alternatives (as we all know of here such as meditation, yoga exercises etc.) are not presented to the public as much as it should have been.

I think a main reason for so much smoking of illegal drugs is that it's illegal and presented as cool and rebellious in rap videos etc. The most rebellious thing today is to be drug free, even though I think some drugs may be useful for some people as long as it does not involve inhaling burned material.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Just make it too expense to buy.

It doesn't seem like a good idea, they will sacrifice a large part of their salary anyway, doing so.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Sunny said:
slyscorpion said:
At this point probably not. Honestly I am not sure what the solution is for some of this stuff. That would make it like drugs. It would be illegal but everyone knows how that works out doesn't make it go away totally. It would take the athorities actually being serious on enforcing stuff and providing treatment for people. Which isn't fully going on right now they are protecting many high level drug people and encouraging this stuff in secret.

In Jew world this isn't going to work. In Satanic world it would.

Perhaps harmless alternatives are the solution. I think it is possible to find fun substances that are not only safer but also more interesting than the ones we currently have.

Imagine, some kind of safe smoke with colours. Blue, green, yellow, red 🧐😄😆

Smoke is still smoke, no matter the substance, even if you'd use clear woodchips for the smoke..

The legalisation of drugs has caused the public to use more. Most of the dutch youth has used drugs at some point, more or less.
Not to mention getting drunk in a shed somewhere.

As for the rasing of prices on cigarettes... I believe about 80% of it is tax that you pay over them over here. At least, it is a lot.
And people STILL smoke. They ALL have warnings on top of them, pictures of lungs that are full of smoke and scarring etc.
Warnings of lung cancer.
People don't care. They've become desensitized.

I don't think banning is the initial solution. I think we must try to rise society out of this cesspit of whatever the fuck crap this is initially, and then implement banning of the thing altogether, once a little progress has been made.

They also sanction smokers on giving them a higher premie on their health insurance.

Still too many people smoke. It is also a habit to break.

I think, other gases (maybe something like noble gases) plus other safe and useful substances. The electronic cigarette is a project in this sense but for the moment it is not risk-free and not very interesting.
 
Veritá_666 said:
Sunny said:
Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔
Personally, I would not ban it, but I would heavily propagandise against smoking and other harmful substances (alcohol, drugs, etc.).

It will be socially acceptable to criticise people who smoke and drink alcohol, and it will be absolutely frowned upon as an action.

This can be counteracted by raising prices. But in time, there will not even be a memory of the existence of cigarettes or anything else.

If one is stupid, he will be able to destroy himself with tobacco and alcohol, life is his own.
But these poisons will not be promoted, they will be publicly attacked and anyone who smuggles these substances will receive large fines or even jail time.

Essentially, anyone who uses them will be seen as a low soul, there will be many concessions to stop consuming poisons.
On the other hand, those who smuggle them will be seen as enemies of the people.

In time the business of tobacco, alcohol, etc. will disappear.

To give you a shorter answer, I do not forbid it, but I direct the world to hate it until it disappears forever.

I would not judge these businesses so harshly. Instead of them disappearing, I would wish them to evolve and improve. But if you don't evolve you might as well disappear. Even the hydrocarbon fuel businesses I think will be replaced with nuclear fuels.
 
xlnt said:
Well banning something makes it more attractive, "rebellious", "cool" etc.
What is needed is a proper explanation as for why something is not good and also present good alternatives. Too bad the best alternatives (as we all know of here such as meditation, yoga exercises etc.) are not presented to the public as much as it should have been.

I think a main reason for so much smoking of illegal drugs is that it's illegal and presented as cool and rebellious in rap videos etc. The most rebellious thing today is to be drug free, even though I think some drugs may be useful for some people as long as it does not involve inhaling burned material.

The fact that they allow these advertisements in songs and films, and that they pretend they cannot stop drugs means that they are interested in the money from it.

However, some things must be banned. Such as driving a car drunk or drugged, not so much because he might die but because he would kill others and this cannot be allowed.
 
Smoking has many positive qualities OP. Ask yourself who told you smoking was bad? And why in an otherwise degenerate atmosphere with far more awful things people do and even argue it's healthy like pornography does the system still focus on smoking?

But even ignoring the obvious, nicotine itself has many qualities that improve cognitive function, reduce estrogen, promote metabolic increase, and actually wards off developing certain kinds of cancer. Everyone should smoke, dogs and children should smoke. Maybe not cigarettes, but that's like comparing a steak to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.
 
Concerned said:
Smoking has many positive qualities OP. Ask yourself who told you smoking was bad? And why in an otherwise degenerate atmosphere with far more awful things people do and even argue it's healthy like pornography does the system still focus on smoking?

But even ignoring the obvious, nicotine itself has many qualities that improve cognitive function, reduce estrogen, promote metabolic increase, and actually wards off developing certain kinds of cancer. Everyone should smoke, dogs and children should smoke. Maybe not cigarettes, but that's like comparing a steak to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.
It really comes down to personal preference at this point, but I understand your point there.
 
Concerned said:
Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.
Except coffee IS bad for you lmao what is shit you’re saying that kids and animals should smoke go away Richard.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Pumpkin671 said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Just make it too expense to buy.
Like a 30% tax on it.

Make 1 pack cost $100 and we’ll see how badly people need dem cancer stixxx

But what if people start selling it illegally? I mean, cigarettes arent even close to drugs because drugs put you in a certain pseudo blissful state, but nicotine can be addictive too. Not to the extent of drugs ofc. But i think if we discipline peoples cultures and raise their awareness, then the abandonment of smoking could be a natural thing in the Age of Aquarius.
 
Concerned said:
Smoking has many positive qualities OP. Ask yourself who told you smoking was bad? And why in an otherwise degenerate atmosphere with far more awful things people do and even argue it's healthy like pornography does the system still focus on smoking?

But even ignoring the obvious, nicotine itself has many qualities that improve cognitive function, reduce estrogen, promote metabolic increase, and actually wards off developing certain kinds of cancer. Everyone should smoke, dogs and children should smoke. Maybe not cigarettes, but that's like comparing a steak to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.
Both are bad for health and not necessary for healthy functioning of Human being in any way whatsoever. You do you, but do not propagate falsehoods being okay here.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Pumpkin671 said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Just make it too expense to buy.
Like a 30% tax on it.

Make 1 pack cost $100 and we’ll see how badly people need dem cancer stixxx

This would completely ruin the companies in question, no one would want to pay taxes of 90€ for a packet of cigarettes. And it still would not solve the problem, people would find illegal alternatives or attack the government.
 
Concerned said:
Smoking has many positive qualities OP. Ask yourself who told you smoking was bad? And why in an otherwise degenerate atmosphere with far more awful things people do and even argue it's healthy like pornography does the system still focus on smoking?

But even ignoring the obvious, nicotine itself has many qualities that improve cognitive function, reduce estrogen, promote metabolic increase, and actually wards off developing certain kinds of cancer. Everyone should smoke, dogs and children should smoke. Maybe not cigarettes, but that's like comparing a steak to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.

There are many things to be fixed. Noise pollution is also a problem and will be solved with quiet engines and anti-noise technology. But that is not the point.

Nicotine is an alkaloid like caffeine and if nicotine has beneficial effects in certain doses then let it be taken in better ways like supplements for example. Carbon dioxide is bad for you, that is a fact.
 

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