WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

[qplayer37]

i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[Mike1]

Soooooo true.
I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).
Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure. Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

  i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[Hot Guy]

heck when i got into satanism i did not know shit about meditation.
after i dedicated i tried to learn more and more about it.
i still have a long ways to go before i get even close to good at it but i do my best to practice it every night.
i am in a place with a roommate who has mental issues so if hes hyper at night i have to crank up whatever music i am listening to so i can tune him out.
even to this day i am still trying to learn more and more about meditation and the chakras and what not.
and even to this day i WILL NEVER GIVE UP HOPE.
HAIL SATAN
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

  i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[Hot Guy]

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.
by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.
with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.
if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.
if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.
one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.
heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.
i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.
Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.
my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???
mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.
so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.
so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???

From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

  Soooooo true.
I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).
Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure. Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

  i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[qplayer37]

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@... wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[forestend]

May I ask something

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[qplayer37]

''i don't like to refer him as father satan''
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... roups.html:
''We feel your relationship with Satan is between you and Satan''

some people might get confused why i dont personally like to refer to satan as father satan. to start with, i do adknowledge him as humanity's creator.i beleave his a nordic and lives in another planet in orions belt. I defenetly would like to fight the enemies by his side, but i personally dont like to say father satan. like the JoS website says, our relationship between us and him is personal and between ourselfes. alot of members here do like to say father satan, but were all individuals and we are all not all the same.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forestend" <forestend@... wrote:

May I ask something


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[qplayer37]

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[the_fire_starter666]

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[the_fire_starter666]

If you don't feel him close enough to be your father and/or have some hang-ups regarding that then it really means you need to deprogram yourself. This is common in people who still believe some of the xian lies about Satan and don't fully trust Him. Are you sure that this is not because of any hang-ups you may have regarding Satan?

Of course you can call Him whatever you like, but you should have no hang-ups. I'm not saying that, but I really find it weird to avoid the word "Father", it's as you feel he doesn't deserve to be your father. As I said, He is much closer than a friend to us, and we're more connected to Him than with a simple friend. That's why many of us choose the word "Father" not only because he's our literal father, but to indicate the closeness and strength of the bond we have with him.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@... wrote:

''i don't like to refer him as father satan''
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... roups.html:
''We feel your relationship with Satan is between you and Satan''

some people might get confused why i dont personally like to refer to satan as father satan. to start with, i do adknowledge him as humanity's creator.i beleave his a nordic and lives in another planet in orions belt. I defenetly would like to fight the enemies by his side, but i personally dont like to say father satan. like the JoS website says, our relationship between us and him is personal and between ourselfes. alot of members here do like to say father satan, but were all individuals and we are all not all the same.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forestend" <forestend@ wrote:

May I ask something


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[qplayer37]

idk, its probably because some of you have had some awesome experiences with him and meditation, and i have had nothing.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

If you don't feel him close enough to be your father and/or have some hang-ups regarding that then it really means you need to deprogram yourself. This is common in people who still believe some of the xian lies about Satan and don't fully trust Him. Are you sure that this is not because of any hang-ups you may have regarding Satan?

Of course you can call Him whatever you like, but you should have no hang-ups. I'm not saying that, but I really find it weird to avoid the word "Father", it's as you feel he doesn't deserve to be your father. As I said, He is much closer than a friend to us, and we're more connected to Him than with a simple friend. That's why many of us choose the word "Father" not only because he's our literal father, but to indicate the closeness and strength of the bond we have with him.

 

[HPS Lydia]

He even calls himself our Father.

"I WILL MAKE YOU STAND AS A GOD, WATCH OVER YOU AS A FATHER AND NOT A SHEPHERD, PROTECT YOU AS MY FAMILY AND NOT MY FLOCK, AND GUIDE YOU AS YOU WALK YOUR OWN PATH... NOT FOLLOW THOSE WHO WISH TO ENSLAVE YOU." ~SATAN/ENKI

(Sorry it's in all-caps, I copied and pasted)

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[Hot Guy]

only reason i have to use Fathers other alias of ENKI is simply due to the whole "SILENCE IS GOLDEN" concept.  this is due to the fact that most people i don't think know him as ENKI.
the electric candle idea i will try then as sure i can use flame candles and incense in the bathroom only problem there is that i have to have the light on or people will just walk by and turn it on as they will think either that nobody is in the bathroom or that someone turned it off when it should not have been.
basically because of this issue this is why i am choosing to to the flame meditation in my room as not only do i got the electric candle and enough batteries but i also got reed diffusers which basically i am sure is like flameless incense.  
overall i when i do my research during my online time at library in shoreline i be sure to look into any beginner topics i can and see what i can do based on what  i have to work with and if its something i can get started on ASAP then most likely I WILL.
in any case thanks for the reply on my question
HAIL SATAN

From: "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES

  He even calls himself our Father.

"I WILL MAKE YOU STAND AS A GOD, WATCH OVER YOU AS A FATHER AND NOT A SHEPHERD, PROTECT YOU AS MY FAMILY AND NOT MY FLOCK, AND GUIDE YOU AS YOU WALK YOUR OWN PATH... NOT FOLLOW THOSE WHO WISH TO ENSLAVE YOU." ~SATAN/ENKI

(Sorry it's in all-caps, I copied and pasted)

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Ya but I love it though.

Hail Satan
Brian 
"I will crush Christianity under my boot like a poisonous toad." - Adolf Hitler

--- On Tue, 4/3/12, lydia_666@... <lydia_666@... wrote:

From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 6:58 PM

  He even calls himself our Father.

"I WILL MAKE YOU STAND AS A GOD, WATCH OVER YOU AS A FATHER AND NOT A SHEPHERD, PROTECT YOU AS MY FAMILY AND NOT MY FLOCK, AND GUIDE YOU AS YOU WALK YOUR OWN PATH... NOT FOLLOW THOSE WHO WISH TO ENSLAVE YOU." ~SATAN/ENKI

(Sorry it's in all-caps, I copied and pasted)

--- [/IMG][email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- [/IMG][email protected], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- [/IMG][email protected], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[e[/IMG][email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: <a rel="nofollow">[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

[/TD]

 

[tanya.azazel]

Hey, Lydia where did you get this quote from? Love it. Maybe I seen it before and over looked it if it's from a certain site.

Hail Satan! Hail Azazel! Hail Zeus! Hail the Gods of Hell!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

He even calls himself our Father.

"I WILL MAKE YOU STAND AS A GOD, WATCH OVER YOU AS A FATHER AND NOT A SHEPHERD, PROTECT YOU AS MY FAMILY AND NOT MY FLOCK, AND GUIDE YOU AS YOU WALK YOUR OWN PATH... NOT FOLLOW THOSE WHO WISH TO ENSLAVE YOU." ~SATAN/ENKI

(Sorry it's in all-caps, I copied and pasted)


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!

 

[HPS Lydia]

I can't remember, and now it's bugging me that I can't. I just searched for it in my JoS pdf and it's not there, but the pdf is a bit different from the JoS site. Sorry!

Hail Father Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tanya.azazel" <tanya.azazel@... wrote:

Hey, Lydia where did you get this quote from? Love it. Maybe I seen it before and over looked it if it's from a certain site.

Hail Satan! Hail Azazel! Hail Zeus! Hail the Gods of Hell!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

He even calls himself our Father.

"I WILL MAKE YOU STAND AS A GOD, WATCH OVER YOU AS A FATHER AND NOT A SHEPHERD, PROTECT YOU AS MY FAMILY AND NOT MY FLOCK, AND GUIDE YOU AS YOU WALK YOUR OWN PATH... NOT FOLLOW THOSE WHO WISH TO ENSLAVE YOU." ~SATAN/ENKI

(Sorry it's in all-caps, I copied and pasted)


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

He IS your literal father though. He is more close to you than a simple friend, we share part of the same DNA. Father is the best thing you can call him. Why is it that hard or bad for you to accept? Of course you can call him whatever you want, I just don't understand what makes this bad in your mind.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

what i probably mean is....
i am trully dedicated to him, but cant i just adknoledge him as a friend?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "qplayer37" <qplayer37@ wrote:

u could use that electronic candle yes, the point of the flame meditation is to get a light imprint inside u to focus on.

i refer to him as Enki too, don't get me wrong, but i don't like to refer him as father satan, sometimes just satan will do the trick

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hot Guy <hotstudman95@ wrote:

i have not missed a day yet but if i did i would kick myself for doing so.

by that i mean it in the figure of speech sense that i wold hate myself for missing a day as i myself am not only new to satanism but meditation as well.

with my ADD and other attention span issues if i were to miss a day that would really screw me up id imagine.

if im lucky like i have been so far i can get in 20 to 30 something minutes of it per evening.

if its less then i try to do at least 10 something.  10 something is what i consider to be the bare minimum.  i try to do more than that.

one of the guys i live with is not mentally stable and is sometimes really hyper at night time and noisy so this for me is the biggest obstacle right now but i do my best to work around it.

heck if the bathroom space i use where to be in use most of the evening and i end up not being able to use candles and incense (as then the only other option would be to meditate in my room where there is a working smoke detector) would be to use my battery operated candle and reed diffusers.

i mean its not the same as regular candles and incense sticks but they are useful when i do need to rely on them.

Also i was reading a bit on the jos site on flame meditation and basically you gotta stare at a flame in the dark as part of it.

my question here is that is it possible to use the battery operated candle in my room and go into my closet and do this this way with the battery operated candle  instead???

mostly because when i meditate in the bathroom i leave the light on as if i leave it off someone will turn it on wondering why i left it off.

so one thing i need mention is that nobody knows i meditate for satanic reasons and i plan to keep it that way.  well that and if i refer to FAther by name while im in the house surrounded by others i do not call him Satan and i refer to him as ENKI instead.

so its like if i ever get into rituals someday another question would be would using the name ENKI be fine for this???



________________________________
From: Mike <misza2@
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
Soooooo true.

I bet that for most of Us, it's both (hard and seemingly no progress is made).
But I can tell from my experience (although tiny) that sometimes it's enough to change the approach a bit and suddenly, the progress is visible (I was forcing myself, and thanks to a wise counseal from one of our members, I know what I was doing wrong and was able to work on it).
So yeah, there's no stopping once it is stared, if One really want to get somewhere with himself that is. I mean, we all have Our doubts now and then (I did have thoughts about terminating meditations, thakfully I didn't do that) and Our lazy days but, as it is stated on JoS, even a day skipped is devastating to Our progress (especially when new).

Motto: Keep up the Good, Hard work everyone. Despite all the odds. If I can do it, then You can do it for sure.
 
Hail Satan and all the true Gods!
Hail Gods of War! 
/Mike


________________________________
From: qplayer37 <qplayer37@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] WARNING FOR ALL NEWBIES


 
i know this has been said by everyone and ill say it again, Do Never Stop Meditating After You Have Starded!, this is not coming from the site, but from me, my personal experience!

Ok so this is what happened, i meditated all the time, and it was always successfull trails. But i stoped meditating for a year, and now when im finally back and want to do it all over again, i have a verry verry hard time getting my head around it. past 2 days i tried it, and i just couldent, my head was all over the place and couldent get focused, my body felt like it was gona fall asleep, but dident. Tryed void meditation and nothing! the next day (yesterday), i tired it again, and it was more successfull then the last try, i was little more focused, but i still couldent finish the program, i told myself ima end it when i got to chakra spin and contine tomorrow.

What im saying, meditation is not eazy and beleave me, the last thing u wana do is stop meditating. BUT DON'T, or u will struggle like me.I still ask myself what went wrong, why im having a hard time, but now i know and u dont wana be like me!

Keep Working Hard In Those Meditaions Even If They Seem Hard Or No Progress Is Being Made!

Have Fun!
Hail Satan!