The Entity that appeared to Lady Maxine

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

HPZM has said that beings worthy enough of gaining the title of Zeus or other Gods may take that title for themselves and become physical embodiments of the Gods.

The entity that appeared to Lady Maxine, described as a Nordic, was he one of those embodiments? He was specifically described as the leader of the Nordic Orion Empire.

Or did Zeus/Satan appear to Lady Maxine in a form she understood, the stereotipical angel look with blone hair and a white robe?

 

[Ashrast]

HPZM has said that beings worthy enough of gaining the title of Zeus or other Gods may take that title for themselves and become physical embodiments of the Gods.

The entity that appeared to Lady Maxine, described as a Nordic, was he one of those embodiments? He was specifically described as the leader of the Nordic Orion Empire.

Or did Zeus/Satan appear to Lady Maxine in a form she understood, the stereotipical angel look with blone hair and a white robe?

Where did he say this?

 

[Shannon]

Hey, did you listen to the AMA that HP held. It’s on the ToZ YouTube. He said that Zeus is beyond race and more of a cosmological force and that the Hods are behind race, though they have their own physical forms. And that they appear to us in a way that is aligned with who we are/ with our perceptions. Someone asked if Zeus was white and blond and HP said no and hinted that He appeared to Maxine in a way that was relational.

Priest Alexandros also said that race cannot and does not apply to the Gods, and that more information will come out and be updated on the situation.

It was a bit of a surprise to me too but it makes sense.

Of course the different races still are what they are but I think the ToZ is moving away from the old model of race and racial assumptions that was held in order to be truly aligned with the Gods and how they see the people of the world.

 

[Shannon]

Gods are beyond race*** sorry, I typed too fast.

 

[Check email please]

Someone asked if Zeus was white and blond and HP said no and hinted that He appeared to Maxine in a way that was relational.

Priest Alexandros also said that race cannot and does not apply to the Gods, and that more information will come out and be updated on the situation.

Good news, i always silently hated that race thing, it made me feel separation to the Gods to the point i told them that before. Never questioned it here since it made me feel i will be headed for ban.

 

[Shannon]

Good news, i always silently hated that race thing, it made me feel separation to the Gods to the point i told them that before. Never questioned it here since it made me feel i will be headed for ban.

I know how you feel. Many non whites felt that. But that is not the case, never was. See yourself through the Gods eyes. That’s why HP has made these new changes because the Gods want this all clarified.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Where did he say this?

Listen from 21 minutes onwards

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Where did he say this?

There’s a bit more context here that HP goes into in the video.

Essentially when you invoke and act like the energetic/spiritual force for a long enough time, you can become a representative of that power, but you aren’t that power itself, even if you are called that power’s name.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Hey, did you listen to the AMA that HP held. It’s on the ToZ YouTube. He said that Zeus is beyond race and more of a cosmological force and that the Hods are behind race, though they have their own physical forms. And that they appear to us in a way that is aligned with who we are/ with our perceptions. Someone asked if Zeus was white and blond and HP said no and hinted that He appeared to Maxine in a way that was relational.

Priest Alexandros also said that race cannot and does not apply to the Gods, and that more information will come out and be updated on the situation.

It was a bit of a surprise to me too but it makes sense.

Of course the different races still are what they are but I think the ToZ is moving away from the old model of race and racial assumptions that was held in order to be truly aligned with the Gods and how they see the people of the world.

Now I understand why HPS Maxine describes a specific Goddess, Artemis/Lerajie, as having black hair and dark, olive-complexioned skin, and I have always seen her astraly as red-haired and fair-skinned, with a very similar appearance to the classic image of Artemis, and that confused alot me for years.

 

[Carnifex Law]

Makes sense the black members always hated the lines drawed on race since they are the one race more inclined to desire race mixing and have deep complexes towards the white race and inferiority complexes, but I would like a actual stance from the TOZ on racial hygiene since without clear lines on this the white race would go extinct by being outnumbered and suffocated by the machinisms of eesraeli programs, the TOZ also claims the Gods arent white. So if the TOZ have really blurry lines on critical questions, what do you stand for really now? What is not yehubor? Is the TOZ ok? Is my message gonna be approved?

 

[Shannon]

Makes sense the black members always hated the lines drawed on race since they are the one race more inclined to desire race mixing and have deep complexes towards the white race and inferiority complexes, but I would like a actual stance from the TOZ on racial hygiene since without clear lines on this the white race would go extinct by being outnumbered and suffocated by the machinisms of eesraeli programs, the TOZ also claims the Gods arent white. So if the TOZ have really blurry lines on critical questions, what do you stand for really now? What is not yehubor? Is the TOZ ok? Is my message gonna be approved?

Who hated the lines drawn on race exactly? Can you quote anyone exactly. Hate is such a strong word. Any “hate” is related to our relationship with the Gods and how the old way of thinking was outdated and created alienation and a rift between non whites and the Gods because of incorrect statements made in the past.

This isn’t about you or anyone else, this has to do with our relationship with the Gods. No one said anything about the white members in this thread. I knew someone would make a comment like how you did, you just had to chime in because you feel threatened by the new updates.

You have missed the bigger picture. And again, some of you really think the new shift with the ToZ throws out previous racial stances.

If you were paying attention, the stance on racial hygiene is the same. I’m sorry that you’re seeing things in a narrow minded way because you see that the focus isn’t just on white people and “jevvs” anymore.

The white race will be fine and the Gods are looking after the situation. If you think the ToZ is just about racial matters, then maybe you’ve missed the message.

The ToZ is going to be very okay. If you are here for the Gods, maybe you should focus on them and not on pseudo politics. If not, maybe this isn’t the place for you. Not sure.

I’m sorry that the idea of the Gods not being white or whatever race might bother you. It’s more complex than that.

Have you been reading everything on the updates of HP? Probably not because the answers will be very apparent. He repeated himself many times. How about trusting in the Gods on this.

And as far as racial complexes? What do you mean? Any complexes has to do with not understanding ourselves because of the enemies of humanity and the greater good. A lot of people, even white people don’t like themselves anymore because of yehuboric teachings. To the point they don’t care to extinct themselves in some cases. It’s very sad and tragic. Everyone is lost. Everyone should learn to love and appreciate their own race.
We have our dear Gods to thank for that.

And any inferiority complexes when we heal and learn about our races under the Gods. We respect bloodlines here and black people don’t need to hate on or be jealous of white people some for being white. The Gods made us how we are and so be it. As long as we all can be powerful, superior beings through spiritual practices, so what?

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Makes sense the black members always hated the lines drawed on race since they are the one race more inclined to desire race mixing and have deep complexes towards the white race and inferiority complexes, but I would like a actual stance from the TOZ on racial hygiene since without clear lines on this the white race would go extinct by being outnumbered and suffocated by the machinisms of eesraeli programs, the TOZ also claims the Gods arent white. So if the TOZ have really blurry lines on critical questions, what do you stand for really now? What is not yehubor? Is the TOZ ok? Is my message gonna be approved?

The assimilation of all entities via this process, is a direct violation of Cosmic law of differentiation of species. That's not political it's how existence operates. If a people abandon their ethnic heritage and bloodline, they disappear.

On a basic species conversation, all different types of people must exist. For this to happen, people clearly need not engage in the advice by Yehubor to make them all the same and uniform. These are basic thing that have to do with species of cats, dogs etc.

The above does not involve politicized racism which is very common in modern politics and politicized religion; it should be just a natural approach that should happen by default (and already happens by default for most people, by natural dictates).

Below you see Louis Farrakhan who claimed the creator of all mankind was a black headed African. Of course the reason he said this was merely to use pseudo-religious language to instate the idea that Blacks did this. This is politics. The same situation occurred with many "Pro White" people who made their own versions of this in America. Israelis made their own version of this, where YHVH is just yet another human, that sponsors land theft and all other forms of practices, only for them.

The above, despite of where it is coming from, is a very HUMAN pattern.

Every people on the planet imagines their Gods (this is psychological) as they themselves are visually. This is literally the childish layer of religion, it's not true spiritual approach of higher levels. Later these narratives turn political and Lord Yakub of Nation of Islam fights Aryan Satan and then all of them together fight Israeli Jehovah.

None of the above have any reality based on what real Ancient cultures of the Gods point on the topic. Neither Egyptians, Ancient Greeks, or Vedic Hindus obsessed over this. They all claim humanity was seeded here but they never said go do racial warfare, that others are inferior, or even to go obliterate your ethnicity. These are arguments that came later; political and territorial. Of course the Divine was caught into these arguments in order to sustain them.

Ancients however, they reiterate that the Gods can take forms; they take shapes, they change forms. They explain that they exist, they can assume any form necessary and that their real forms, extend beyond these forms expected by humans.

The study of human species and sub-species is the work of biologists and anthropologists, who have to look on these topics. The science on these topics is either jeopardized or largely incomplete.

 

[Shannon]

Thank you for clarifying more on this HP.

 

[Check email please]

I know how you feel. Many non whites felt that. But that is not the case, never was. See yourself through the Gods eyes. That’s why HP has made these new changes because the Gods want this all clarified.

I had opposite problem, i was concerned the way the Gods view me, is heavily shaped by the race thing. This is complex and weird.. in fact i went far to not even mind if each God was of a different race, and the ones having race matching mine being more generous with me, this all sounds ok to me, but the labeling of : [hi you are inferior because you are X race. And the Gods look like me not like you because i am that and that] and so on, i used to naively doubt that what if the Gods actually really think that way. So i was worrying about the Gods having human perspective.. its a yehuboric trap

I am white by color, not by race. It's too often used to erase origin. I'm not of the white race my race is my own, even if my skin is light. "You didn't spawn from nowhere"? Actually, I did. I'm indigenous to my land.

So here's the logic: either we both spawned, or neither of us did. "That's not how it works" yes, it is. Which leaves only two options: equality, or my superiority. At worst, I'll be delusional in my superiority and not care. Being inferior is not an option. Equal, or I rise above.

The above prove the following point, the trap: if I dismantle someone else's superiority claim, I get labeled as having a superiority complex. The very act of engaging drags me down. I have to descend to their level to address it, and once there, I'm mistaken for being truly that when in fact I only descended to fix the mess. And I had to descend to even say or act in a way that could be understood. Since usually those people need to be shaken in order to see truth.

That's what race debates do.. They anchor everything in the body lowly, animalistic. When the idea faintly used to float that the Gods belong to a specific race( i did not mind that, the following angered me), and people of that race look down on me, it makes me revolted. But if I stop there, it reads as insecurity. If I then point out that I could look down on them but choose equality, I read as having a superiority complex. Either way, I'm painted as inferior or as secretly inferior pretending otherwise. The whole subject is a trap. Say anything, and you end up labeled inferior directly, or by being called arrogant which is just inferiority in disguise.

I do not mind if the Gods had races, i may even be drawn more to the ones that have same one as mine, this completely normal, the problem is the lense through which we percieve the matter, if it is solely about proving ones superiority and inflating egos it becomes a mess..

First. That subject makes me acting lower than the level i truly am at, second, it used to pull me away from the Gods. That alone tells me its nature. It's yehuboric designed to divide, to block spirituality and make it all about flesh, to make you play a game you cannot win. And to make you either inferior, or falsely superior. So it is a trap to both parties engaged in the debate.

It is crazy for one to think because his mother was too horny one day and his father managed to get it up and they had sex, this makes him somehow special.

i am very grateful for the new updates, and by the way, many black people do the same thing, many indians do the same thing, if i debate an indian he will quickly cause me to start hating the indian depictions of the Gods or indian scriptures ( not now, but when i was naive) because he will start telling me the Gods are indian the scriptures are indian, indians are the best and so on. If i debate a black he starts telling me black did this blacks did that , if i debate a white , he does the same, i talked about this a lot before , a group of people critics a behavior, and he does the exact same thing..

At this point i do not care about peoples opinion. I am just Glad the Gods opinions are the GODS opinions. And people can think what they want, it has nothing to do with how the Gods view the matter.

I am very grateful for new updates.

Note: above i am not talking about all blacks or all indians or all whites.. i am talking about specific people, i also just clarified how i viewed the matter in the above

 

[Carnifex Law]

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/why-3-races.302287/#post-1153252I wrote here last year how Sirchade looks like a dantesque being and how she trancends any white phenotype, but to my understand Her origin is "white" and former HPS Maxine has stated regarding racial laws Lilith told her "we are nazis" . What is the actual news in the latest news from the TOZ because it was understood blacks and asians etc could apply themselves to the practices aswell for any former period of this organization aswell. Is the message simply Zeus is not merely a Nordic? I believe most advanced members understood this.

 

[Shannon]

Makes sense the black members always hated the lines drawed on race since they are the one race more inclined to desire race mixing and have deep complexes towards the white race and inferiority complexes, but I would like a actual stance from the TOZ on racial hygiene since without clear lines on this the white race would go extinct by being outnumbered and suffocated by the machinisms of eesraeli programs, the TOZ also claims the Gods arent white. So if the TOZ have really blurry lines on critical questions, what do you stand for really now? What is not yehubor? Is the TOZ ok? Is my message gonna be approved?

And what exactly are you doing to help your race when it comes to being here with the ToZ? Are you close to the Gods and actively working to manifest their reality on this earth? All of us should be thinking of this.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/why-3-races.302287/#post-1153252I wrote here last year how Sirchade looks like a dantesque being and how she trancends any white phenotype, but to my understand Her origin is "white" and former HPS Maxine has stated regarding racial laws Lilith told her "we are nazis" . What is the actual news in the latest news from the TOZ because it was understood blacks and asians etc could apply themselves to the practices aswell for any former period of this organization aswell. Is the message simply Zeus is not merely a Nordic? I believe most advanced members understood this.

The Gods in dreams, or in visions, can appear to anything that is familiar to you. This is why they have SYMBOLS; when Apollo appears, it's sometimes a snake. They can appear as animals, they can appear as symbols.

This is basic PSYCHOLOGICAL language. PSYCHOLOGICAL interpretation also takes place where it comes to seeing FAMILIAR FORM so the mind can IMPART the familiar form. Ie, someone from your tribe, race, or what you consider good or divine in your mind.

Besides this psychological layer, Gods are even more things, cosmological forces etc. This was explained in an AMA about the nature of Zeus. These things exist simultaneously in all layers.

 

[Carnifex Law]

Who hated the lines drawn on race exactly? Can you quote anyone exactly. Hate is such a strong word. Any “hate” is related to our relationship with the Gods and how the old way of thinking was outdated and created alienation and a rift between non whites and the Gods because of incorrect statements made in the past.

This isn’t about you or anyone else, this has to do with our relationship with the Gods. No one said anything about the white members in this thread. I knew someone would make a comment like how you did, you just had to chime in because you feel threatened by the new updates.

You have missed the bigger picture. And again, some of you really think the new shift with the ToZ throws out previous racial stances.

If you were paying attention, the stance on racial hygiene is the same. I’m sorry that you’re seeing things in a narrow minded way because you see that the focus isn’t just on white people and “jevvs” anymore.

The white race will be fine and the Gods are looking after the situation. If you think the ToZ is just about racial matters, then maybe you’ve missed the message.

The ToZ is going to be very okay. If you are here for the Gods, maybe you should focus on them and not on pseudo politics. If not, maybe this isn’t the place for you. Not sure.

I’m sorry that the idea of the Gods not being white or whatever race might bother you. It’s more complex than that.

Have you been reading everything on the updates of HP? Probably not because the answers will be very apparent. He repeated himself many times. How about trusting in the Gods on this.

And as far as racial complexes? What do you mean? Any complexes has to do with not understanding ourselves because of the enemies of humanity and the greater good. A lot of people, even white people don’t like themselves anymore because of yehuboric teachings. To the point they don’t care to extinct themselves in some cases. It’s very sad and tragic. Everyone is lost. Everyone should learn to love and appreciate their own race.
We have our dear Gods to thank for that.

And any inferiority complexes when we heal and learn about our races under the Gods. We respect bloodlines here and black people don’t need to hate on or be jealous of white people some for being white. The Gods made us how we are and so be it. As long as we all can be powerful, superior beings through spiritual practices, so what?

The op said he hated the narrative on race and you said non white members felt that way too.

 

[Carnifex Law]

And what exactly are you doing to help your race when it comes to being here with the ToZ? Are you close to the Gods and actively working to manifest their reality on this earth? All of us should be thinking of this.

I donate and do the rituals with religious fervor. And may I say immodestly we are all in our own little missions.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

The op said he hated the narrative on race and you said non white members felt that way too.

The situation is when someone claims that God is Yakub the Big Headed Black Alien, or Satan the Aryan White alien, this is political. It's not consistent with the Ancient Cultures. When the Gods are understood as cultivators of all life and all order, all the arguments of needing Yakub the Black Headed Alien or Satan the Aryan alien, fall into moot.

Because you understand the core culture of the Gods, which simultaneously both supports these two things, MINUS dumb politics. This is when the consciousness expands; you respect yourself, you respect others, ethnicity are preserved, perspectives are preserved and finally humanity uses God not for it's empty politics but to actually grow with this under the guidance of the Gods.

 

[Grimryper7]

The assimilation of all entities via this process, is a direct violation of Cosmic law of differentiation...

HPS Maxine always said that our gods have races. What about all the pagan cultures that show the main God(Zeus) as white skin, blues eyes, blonde hair? What about genetics and the relation to the Gods? This is a pretty big retcon HP

Does this also mean that the white race is not a direct descendant of Zeus?

 

[Shannon]

The op said he hated the narrative on race and you said non white members felt that way too.

No, I said many non whites felt the way about the race subject here because we were taught, and or heavily implied, that the white race is closer the Gods and of the Gods genetically, etc, etc and Non whites are kind of just here, and now we are finding out that’s not true.

I was talking about the alienation that non whites felt because of the outdated racial situation.

I think you misunderstood me. That’s why I said this is not about white peoples or you, this is about our relationship with the Gods.

Not all non whites dislike white peoples. I care about them too and they are great. I’m saying I didn’t like the old race topics that were alienating. Even I felt distant from the Gods at some point because of the past comments, from some clergy as well. But that was the past and we are all constantly growing and evolving, the Gods teaching us and making us see the truth.

 

[Shannon]

I donate and do the rituals with religious fervor. And may I say immodestly we are all in our own little missions.

That’s beautiful. I agree on that.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

HPS Maxine always said that our gods have races. What about all the pagan cultures that show the main God(Zeus) as white skin, blues eyes, blonde hair? What about genetics and the relation to the Gods? This is a pretty big retcon HP

Does this also mean that the white race is not a direct descendant of Zeus?

Every culture I have read on the planet, be this Middle Eastern, Asiatic, Greek, Egyptian, European, Vedic; all of them say the Gods created them and that they are their descendants.

As about "My God is blue eyed and bigger than yours" mentalities generated in the 60's, both Louis Farakkhan and HPS Maxine claim that God is exclusively of their own skin race and color. These popularized in the 70's and 80's with ET nonsense based works on Zecharia Stichin and "What types of race these aliens were".

Meanwhile, aeons old Ancient Priesthood and Golden Age Civilizations don't appear to obsess over how these entities looked, or try to write narrative that their "God" is better than "Yours" because of their looks. This vanity only starts in America for the most part. Aristotle, Plato, Golden Age rishis etc, don't appear one inch worried or concerned about the topic. This is just politicization of religion that occurs later. Humans never needed to say "I will not destroy my ethnicity because the Gods have X and Y eye color and yours have Z color".

This arises only after humans completely lost their way; they started to cling for basic realistic laws of existence with politics. Their Gods started needing colors because they no longer knew who they were, or didn't see validity in their existence anymore.

Even if the Gods looked like Octapuses with 8 wings and 350 eyes - this changes nothing about how people must preserve their ethnicity.

 

[Shannon]

I donate and do the rituals with religious fervor. And may I say immodestly we are all in our own little missions.

Also, if you are able to, have children for the betterment of your race , if you don’t have any already. I know it’s obvious but just saying.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Anyway, I have decided I'll make public some things that were supposed to go in the Advanced Philosophy section of ToZ. It appears this is the only solution to explain this topic realistically at this point.

This might stretch some minds way beyond the current perceptions. But it's the truth.

If people still need their particular colored God to take care of them and only of them (or this "claimed Gods" to write for them a volume of genociding their neighborhing Nation because "God said so" - baboonic things), keep advancing, and when you pierce the highest levels you will see what I describe [and what all Ancient highest people described].

Don't be alarmed this is very normal. I give you framework for this also, but don't shoot the messenger. I don't take it personally that the Gods of Creation do not abide by Louis Fahrakkan or whomever else. It's how the universe is designed. As for complaints, issue to the creators, not me.