The art of Glamour - detrimental, or useful?

[Lunar Dance 666]

You still have baby teeth? Are you a teenager or an adult? Doesn't that look a bit weird if you're an adult? Not that I'm judging you.
I've read that some people who are born without adult teeth, have their baby teeth removed and replaced with implants as an adult so they can look more normal. I hope your teeth do properly come out after all, unless you like them as they are anyway.

I'm well into adulthood and my baby teeth are strong, straight and healthy. I was advised against removing them by a dentist.

Have you got a double row of teeth then?

I had a baby tooth molar on top of my normal molar. At some point I bit it in half (had already been like that for a year). So they took it out.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

You still have baby teeth? Are you a teenager or an adult? Doesn't that look a bit weird if you're an adult? Not that I'm judging you.
I've read that some people who are born without adult teeth, have their baby teeth removed and replaced with implants as an adult so they can look more normal. I hope your teeth do properly come out after all, unless you like them as they are anyway.

I'm well into adulthood and my baby teeth are strong, straight and healthy. I was advised against removing them by a dentist.

They didn’t just get loose and come out on their own? That’s what’s supposed to happen. Unless you’re talking about molars or something else.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

This was despite me being a boy back then.

There’s no “back then” you are still a boy.

I get quite the opposite when it's brought up in person (although that's quite rare). Like, "when it said 'transgender' in the file, I was expecting a man, not such a pretty woman!" :lol:

People on the internet have all these preconceptions and cling to stereotypes, but it all just melts down in an instant when it comes to a real interaction. It made me realise that I've been overthinking things a lot. I should just go with the flow like everyone else, accept the way I am even if strangers on the internet complain that it makes no sense, and enjoy my life to the fullest. I have to move on.

No need to sweat the details, as they're prone to change anyway. I've already seen so much change right before my very eyes, after all; I've seen my childhood dreams come true, and now I'll make my dreams as an adult come true as well.

GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE. That’s how all of your responses about this topic can be summarized. Guys that outwardly appear as women are not a new phenomenon there’s no need to act like it is and as if there is not a name for it.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

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Part of the reason my replies to Meteor on that subject were particularly harsh is because I know a few "behind the scenes" things that are better left unsaid, but I had to factor these into my replies to them on that subject.

Not to mention, as someone on my understanding, it is not difficult to understand where gender confusion leads to, and why it exists, and how falling into that abyss isn't the answer for people struggling with those sorts of things.

The way you came to self realization and overcame your own situation is the right way to go about it.

You realized you do not have to pretend to be anyone, or be confused about anything, refusing to let the treatment you received from others as well as your struggles with life due to an absent father rule over your mind and dictate what sort of woman you can or cannot be.

Understanding and accepting the reality of your self is the first major step in this, no matter how much one may dislike the truth in this regard.

Ask and answer the question: "What kind of woman am I?" Rather than ask "Am I a woman or am I a man? Why am I even a woman if I hate it so much? What point is there to it to be something I dislike?" Etc.

Understand you are born the gender that you are. Then understand what this means for you, understand what kind of person pertaining to that Gender is you.

When you find yourself and step into your own, all confusion disappears and nothing else in the world can really mess with your self realization any longer.

Treatment of others or circumstances one finds themselves in can no longer dictate what you think you are or aren't, as you know fully what and who you are without any confusion present.

Finally this leads to true liberation and freedom in ones expression and also true unity with ones being that is required to reach higher advancement.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

My boss on my last job we just finished up was pretty cool and always made jokes. One of them was the women in the kitchen joke which he knew i knew was all in good fun. Another one is the classic "make me a sammich". Haven't had that one yet towards me yet but if i do especially if its serious ill be like "well damn always the sammich...not the potroast or the chicken and rice? Actin' like a chick cant cook :lol: :lol: :lol: "

LOL I'll keep that one in mind! Yeah, a sammich is nothing compared to a full meal :lol: Although let's face it, aren't most of the best chefs in the world men? :lol:

Also, to people here about lotions etc for the skin, a lot of the store-bought stuff is actually harmful and ages the skin. Look into natural and pure oils, such as jojoba, grapeseed, wheatgerm, safflower, rose otto, orange essential, and so on. These are wonderful for the skin and anti-ageing. You can combine a few into one container and voila, your own supreme facial serum! Also much cheaper and will yield a far larger amount.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Soul wings supports killing the white baby needlessly while it is in the womb and now it comes up that they have mental issues. A surprise to no one.

I've read what Soul wings had to say about that subject, which has nothing to do with what is discussed here.

The topic of abortion has been clarified on already, by HP Zevios, by Maxime, By Lydia, By myself, etc.

Don't use unrelated things said by others to justify your own flawed opinions about subjects and the said person in question.

Stop perpetuating drama related to these subjects as well. If you just want to be entitled to your opinion, that is fine, you can do so in your own time and at your own place.

The JoS's stance on abortion and other subjects is rather clear already, therefore there is no need to push your own flawed opinion here in this kind of drama inducing manner, as it doesn't accomplish anything and doesn't lead to fruitful discussion about any subject.

Grow up a little, and either refute straight any nonsense said by a person, or learn to ignore it if you do not have anything to bring to the subject, or shoot it down pragmatically to avoid any unnecessary drama perpetuation.

Hail Satan!

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

The topic of abortion has been clarified on already, by HP Zevios, by Maxime, By Lydia, By myself, etc.

So you name dropped a few people as if their stance on it is even similar to SW who just supports abortion for the sake of it. I read the post as well and it had nothing to do with abortion being a eugenic or medical necessity.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

The topic of abortion has been clarified on already, by HP Zevios, by Maxime, By Lydia, By myself, etc.

So you name dropped a few people as if their stance on it is even similar to SW who just supports abortion for the sake of it. I read the post as well and it had nothing to do with abortion being a eugenic or medical necessity.

Neither does it have it be. That is what all of us have said on the subject.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Neither does it have it be. That is what all of us have said on the subject.

That post was more like a bunch of feminist woman/child hating talking points cloaked in the idea of the “right to choose”. But carry on. I know what I read and I know who defended it.

 

[Soul Wings]

Don't worry, there's no need to step in. He doesn't bother me in the least. I accept my beliefs go against the norms here for the most part, that doesn't stop me from being willing to discuss it. He's allowed to be angry, no matter where that anger comes from.

 

[Soul Wings]

(If anyone reading is "alarmed" and wants to read to decide for themselves, this is my stance on abortion. )

Well people managed to find their way into their thread and have their say (again). To others that have replied to my post about my gender identity stuff, I've read what you have to say but I am speaking particularly to Meteor about it. I do not wish to discuss it with anyone else (right now). Thanks for understanding.

People, even our family, who have not been through the same thing, yes, I believe they will never fully understand, unless they have listened fully (I'm talking EVERYTHING; as we both know what we've said is vague and many details left out - it's public after all) to someone who has been through it, or they have been through it themselves. I'm not saying people can't get "the gist of it" though. But unfortunately there's a lot of assumption there, usually.

I don't think I ever told my mum about what I did. Like the above, I wasn't sure if she was the right person to talk to about it because her generation never really dealt, with any of this. At the time there was literally nobody, I don't even think I told my therapist. I did speak to one of my friends briefly, but I just made a joke out of it.

Hmm, I did not have a boyfriend at the time so I never really had anyone to influence how I feel about my own body. I think if I did, hypothetically, well it's just so weird how the things our partners say affect what we do, but really, a question for you particularly from me... wouldn't it be healthier if it didn't? As it sounds like, from what I've read here, you are happy and content now anyway. How often does your fiance bring this up? How does it make you feel knowing he feels that way? Do you feel he would he be okay with you staying (biologically) a man?

> "What if it's not that they think you're weird, but that the way you are raises uncomfortable questions about themselves?
I have definitely wondered this about many things. It makes me think about back when many men I spoke to were uncomfortable with my bombastic sexuality (to put it lightly LOL) and forwardness. It was important for me to find someone comfortable in themselves but also open minded and understanding. I thought that would be hard but I was wrong.

People will always have a problem with these things. I definitely don't think all of them have bad intent though. I'm glad you've accepted this because it sounds like there might have been problems with that before in your life. But it seems like this might be the reason why nobody is openly discussing it here despite having issues like this themselves (I have seen other threads and I feel some guests may be looking for answers and expansion of their world view). And you're not derailing the thread, after all, this is my thread and I will talk about whatever I want in it!

 

[Mastermind]

At the rate things were going back when I was a teenager, if I had done nothing, I would have ended my life prematurely as it was profoundly unenjoyable for me back then. And now, I often find myself feeling so overjoyed, optimistic, and fulfilled,

You get the strength benefits of a man and the social benefits of appearing as a woman.
Of course not all men get the same strength benefits. You probably were one of the unlucky ones. However you are still much stronger than most women.
Also most women get social benefits that men don't get. Emotional support is a huge one. If you show weakness as a woman, you get help. If you show weakness as a man, people try to finish you off. Women get less time for the same crime. Women get a job easier for the same qualifications (although the pay is another matter). Women get friends much easier. Women get financial support by institutions. There are no willing homeless women (they are homeless because they didn't seek help because of an inflated ego) which is not the case for men. Men are less likely to get scholarships and more likely to be thrown out at 18. I could go on.

Being a man and appearing as a woman you get the best of both worlds. Being a woman and appearing as a man... that'd be catastrophic as you wouldn't get any strength benefits while losing all social benefits as well (which most women aren't even aware of having). That's probably why there are 4 times more transgender women than transgender men.

We know all of this subconsciously and we all try to maximize our chances at procreation. You found a way to do that through deception (which also puts you at above average IQ). I believe that you have problems with people because you are trying to rationalize your cheating. Most people instinctively know what you are doing but can't put it into words.
Is deception a bad tactic to win? Maybe, maybe not.
Lets see deception in action: https://www.bitchute.com/video/amyb9hJEDQ5E/ Jake Paul appears to be going for a low hit but then goes for the head and knocks Tyrone out. Is that bad? I don't think so. That's intelligence in action.

Where am I going with this? I think that it'd be best if you stopped trying to rationalize your behaviour to others. Just say what you are and don't explain yourself.

 

[Soul Wings]

Hmm, I don't want to cause problems (for you) by being public. if you want to talk privately about things I have a gmail if you'd like. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

... If you were to take hormones and grow breasts, I guess you could be a defective/infertile woman.

I personally think it's quite dehumanising to call someone (in any context) literally defective simply because they can't/won't have children. That is like calling a man defective if he can't get his cock hard or if he has a vasectomy etc. This word is synonymous with disabled. The fact that we can choose to have sex for pleasure only is fantastic and is not defective in the slightest. The fact that we can choose to have children or not is fantastic and how it should be. Then, for the most part, only the people who truly want children will have them, resulting in less infanticide, maternal deaths, abandonment to adoption homes etc.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

At the rate things were going back when I was a teenager, if I had done nothing, I would have ended my life prematurely as it was profoundly unenjoyable for me back then. And now, I often find myself feeling so overjoyed, optimistic, and fulfilled,

You get the strength benefits of a man and the social benefits of appearing as a woman.
Of course not all men get the same strength benefits. You probably were one of the unlucky ones. However you are still much stronger than most women.
Also most women get social benefits that men don't get. Emotional support is a huge one. If you show weakness as a woman, you get help. If you show weakness as a man, people try to finish you off. Women get less time for the same crime. Women get a job easier for the same qualifications (although the pay is another matter). Women get friends much easier. Women get financial support by institutions. There are no willing homeless women (they are homeless because they didn't seek help because of an inflated ego) which is not the case for men. Men are less likely to get scholarships and more likely to be thrown out at 18. I could go on.

Being a man and appearing as a woman you get the best of both worlds. Being a woman and appearing as a man... that'd be catastrophic as you wouldn't get any strength benefits while losing all social benefits as well (which most women aren't even aware of having). That's probably why there are 4 times more transgender women than transgender men.

We know all of this subconsciously and we all try to maximize our chances at procreation. You found a way to do that through deception (which also puts you at above average IQ). I believe that you have problems with people because you are trying to rationalize your cheating. Most people instinctively know what you are doing but can't put it into words.
Is deception a bad tactic to win? Maybe, maybe not.
Lets see deception in action: https://www.bitchute.com/video/amyb9hJEDQ5E/ Jake Paul appears to be going for a low hit but then goes for the head and knocks Tyrone out. Is that bad? I don't think so. That's intelligence in action.

Where am I going with this? I think that it'd be best if you stopped trying to rationalize your behaviour to others. Just say what you are and don't explain yourself.

Those behavior patterns you mention are either stereotypes or dogma's.

The fact that they excist in your mind has to do with the people that you've seen in life.

There are women on the opposite end who have had to fight for everything and who have lost their homes and their security due to circumstances.
Not every woman has a net around them to catch their fall.
Women have their pride too. We are not all drama queens that want to have everything handed to us on golden platters. Also this in the paragraph above ^ is meek parasitic behavior.
(Not to mention all the curses against a woman in general.)

And there are also men whom lost their homes but they more often than not have someone that concerns them, whether it be their own mother or a good compassionate friend who lets them stay for a while.

Illusions, stereotypes and whatever should be broken. Just as civilisation is currently harsh, the harshest one towards yourself will be you, yourself.
The only one that can truly break you and keep you down is yourself.

This bad influence in society must be broken.
Responsibility must be properly taken and stimulated in a healthy way, so we can all become the best version of ourselves, and above all, be prosperous.

Men must be proper men. And women must be proper women. Diligent, strong, beautiful.
Take the three above words in the context that suits them best. My definition of them is rather broad.

 

[Mastermind]

how exactly do I benefit in any meaningful way from having above average strength for a woman?

By having the option of doing tasks that require above average strength for a woman. Maybe you chose to not exercise that option, however you have it in case you need it.

If procreation was my goal, it would've been easier as a man if I just got some fertility treatments and got a girlfriend. But I'm only into guys
...
It's true that I have an abnormally high IQ (even despite Klinefelter having a tendency to lower IQ a bit), but seriously, how does any of this actually benefit me in any meaningful way from a competitive standpoint?

You probably didn't really have an option to get a girlfriend at your stage in life. Life for young guys is brutal as young guys have to compete for young girls both against other young guys and older guys and older men and lesbians and aliens. 80%+ of young guys never had a girlfriend until 30 years of age. Which is the age where most guys have enough resources to be competitive enough to attract a female partner.
So why are you into guys? Your subconscious mind has determined that that's the best course of action and is making you do things that you are not consciously aware of. Two persons working together have the potential of making/gathering resources four times more than a single person. For example, sharing an apartment you get to pay half the rent than if you were alone. Having only one person cook saves a substantial amount of time as well. Not having to look for a partner also saves time. Etc.
So by being into guys and having a partner, you have an economic advantage and you'll end up out-competing single guys in terms of finances, which means that later in life you'll have the option to have more offspring and thus propagate your DNA more. This is all the work of your subconscious mind.
Study some evolutionary psychology and you'll understand it all.

 

[Soul Wings]

The majority of criminals, rapists and anti social people who create all sorts of problems for society also don't have a strong father figure. Do you think not having a strong father figure might have led you to develop this idea of Gender Identity ?

Hopefully, you're not trying to rope me in with people like that, because if you knew me, it couldn't be further from the truth. That wouldn't even be a question. And don't worry, he was strong, just in the most horrible ways a man can be . As for your latter question, yes it did directly lead to it. I have to be brief because I'm going to work but.... I have to be my own father = I have to do everything a father normally would, including protecting myself (I failed miserably) and teaching myself how to do things. These are masculine traits and contributed to some of the questions I had. But I do not blame my father for my shortcomings at all and I must simply rectify by becoming a better, stronger person myself instead of trying to play victim.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

It's true that I have an abnormally high IQ

Seriously meteor? Practicing some self-fellatio on your girl cock for the whole forum to see?

 

[Soul Wings]

Glad things worked out.
I definitely have other issues I'm still ironing out, they are pretty bad, some are physically affecting me so I don't know how long it will take. This is a long haul thing. I am currently working on more tools for this. I want to also mention that not everybody who goes what I went through gender wise, goes through it the same way for the same reasons. Not everyone has daddy/mommy issues. It's why I think it's important to listen and not just assume. I am just one of many, many people.

I don't think people who have "weak wills" from whatever it may be are weak entirely per se, but they are disadvantaged. I guess you like Naruto so the way I see it is Naruto vs Sasuke. I would look around and see a lot of "Sasuke"s walking around but I'd wonder if Naruto was inside their head. And it doesn't mean Naruto can't catch up or surpass Sasuke. It might just take dedication most of his life. And I think that makes him becoming a better person for that reason because he can empathise with other Narutos and knows what it's like to push through. Sasuke can simply get where he needs to be in life quicker than Naruto.

I don't disagree that people take it differently. Some have abusive partners, friends etc all their life because they can't escape the cycle. Some like age gap relationships. There's actually many psychological effects that have been studied because of absent parents. Truly it could be anything, we don't know the human brain very well right now. I just don't think people should rely on weird Freudian stuff for this kind of thing though.

I guess in a way this is a huge reason why I'm so thankful to Satan. He has truly been like a father to me. I'd probably be a sad homeless drunk, alone or dead if I didn't take this path. I have improved my life in so many ways and found answers to things that seem impossible through him.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

you dont know all story... of this person

meteor destroyed a few Zevism... with all this insanity...

she destroyed a cybersec expert from jos...

its very smart...crafty...cunning..very manipulation...

is crafty always victim...

be carefull..dont believe shit...

dont believe shit!

I absolutely believe you my friend you always have the evidence it’s just that HP doesn’t want it on the forum because things will turn into a mess quickly.

 

[Stormblood]

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

 

[Soul Wings]

Maybe it's just me, but I think we're just normalizing this talk about transgenderism too much, meteor is sick in the head, one can theorize all he wants, but at the end that is the simple truth.
It's just really strange reading all this stuff.

Well look, I think people can come to that conclusion themselves if they feel that way. I think censoring is pointless unless it goes against forum rules. I personally think people are WAY, WAY overreacting to what was meant to be just a personal discussion between Meteor and I. I did not feel comfortable with the apathy/lack of understanding shown by others for their issues, so I decided to go a different route to reach out and open up, as I don't give a fuck what people -especially on the internet- think of me anyway. I have extended the offer to speak privately, but there are people from all walks of life here; and I don't see the point in censoring public discussions about these topics. Xtards would historically censor cherrypicked things they didn't like... look how that's turned out. Everyone struggles differently; People can overcome all kinds of different issues. Everyone needs someone to talk to about it, too. Maybe even a fresh take. It is a reality and we cannot move forward just sticking our heads in the sand about things we don't like/don't want to think about etc. Even Cobra was kind enough to take the time out of his day to give his take.

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Regardless, it's still relevant, as makeup is usually used in early stages of gender/trans/sexuality issues. OP is still a thing and I'm still willing to hear opinions.
As for how, it's because I decided I wanted to discuss it with Meteor only about it, but everyone else joined in. And I still do. Clearly it's a hot topic :!: Just a bit hotter than I (we, perhaps) was/were expecting. To be frank with you though (not trying to be rude, just truthful), I don't care if people don't like it, because I/we want to discuss it publically, and I'm going to, unless mods have a problem with it. We are still Satanic members and this is still life experiences. I am here to expand my world view, philosophise, and I do wish to help people out if I can, in whatever way I can. People are welcome to join and leave as they please, and to read/reply, or not read/reply, and to come to their own conclusions.

Out of curiosity, did you post something? As I was quoted but nothing appears. It was deleted perhaps?

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

That seems to happen every time, lately. I've been wanting to post some inspiring videos for women, but have hesitated due to it certainly being turned into transgenderism and other self-delusions. I've decided to wait a bit.