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Note: following can be wrong, i am open for discussion or/and correction.

Greetings,

I asked in one of my first threads if Gods like sharing experiences, etc. I was unsure about that. I followed my intuition and tried my best to not share something that is not to be shared.

The beautiful thing is, the more I contributed in forum, the more the Gods amplified themselves in my life, which is shocking to be honest, even if I knew that.

It is one thing to know things mentally versus to experience it.

When I say amplify, it even reached levels where I started kind of seeing the Gods as the fabric of reality. Hard to put into words, like if i am hallucinating perceiving it but in same time sensing i am actually perceiving it and sensing it and a result of seing him everywhere, when that hits with many signs, feeling of presence, the body reacting to them, intuitions, synchronicities, and this hits fast like a cascade, literally feels like Gods are everywhere.Also, how much influence they have really, and how [Real] they can be in one's life.

This literally makes me sometimes feel like a bit dizzy or dissociative or something like that. It is like a confusion reaction, like my brain cannot handle the Gods are this Great and this [ Real ]. And they merge the extremes, chtonic potential - heavenly potential, serious aspect - Playful aspect, etc..

One thing that I am gaining more and more recently is confidence on the Blessings of the Gods.

In the example I have now on my hands, I do input in forum, I get blessings from Gods. This literally feels dissociative; I literally feel almost disoriented or dizzy perceiving this. Since the input is physical and clear, however the blessing received comes from [ Gods ], which feels extreme to me, to make you feel how i feel, imagine i tell you, can you work a job, no one will pay you, the Gods will. Lol. Whats crazy is this is real in ToZ, the Gods do give blessings.

It feels like what matters is for one to do his best, and whatever is meant to be for him, will, and no one will block that.

Even enemies can start acting in ways benefiting the initiate. I personally believe Gods have direct influence over yehubors too. If the Gods want to make a Yehubor act as a vessel and do something that needs to be done, he will somehow, and then when task done he will go back to being a yehubor. But I personally believe the Gods can influence literally everyone, not just 'their followers'. I call them 'temporary vessels'.

What I also noticed from personal experience is that when Gods amplify their presence, yes there are beautiful experiences and such, but there is also an expected output from the initiate: new standards, new goals to achieve, new action to be done, etc. It is not passive; it is very active and all about achievements and creation.

I used to wonder how come some 'Sages' in past were just in a mountain experiencing Gods without doing anything. But reflecting on that, many were actually very disciplined.

In addition, when I researched my culture, Sages always did action, and these actions even continue even after their death. Some are healers, some they teach and preserve the tradition, some literally sometimes turned into being generals and helped in defending the territory.

All the 'legit ones' I heard about had massive influence in their environment, so they may have been 'in a mountain' but they were actually doing their job there. It is not like they were just laying down in bliss 24/7.

The ones I researched and found to not have been doing much action, used actually to be very Godly people, so they did act as example, and they did spread goodness, which is of itself an action.

So I was unable to think of example who had good relation with Gods with 0 action literally.

That being said, I encourage other members to contribute more in forum, via interactions or helping other members or donations to ToZ etc.

An important note: I noticed from experience, the Gods can even reward imperfect or/and small actions, as long as the intent is pure. Others opinions does not matter; one should just keep doing his best, the Gods see.

The feeling of refining my existence gave me also the feeling of ´working under the Gods directly’ this gives me very strong confidence, literally the thought of someone going against me makes me laugh, not in arrogance and i understand that no one is immune, however, i do not know why, but literally i laugh thinking of opposition. The closeness to Gods give a feeling of safety and protection. But yes one should stay grounded, states and feelings are not to be mistake for truth, and small obstacles, are just part of the path and not to be mistaken for walls or/and serious opposition.

The Gods are very wonderful and noble.

Hail God Zeus Hail Goddess Hera!

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Greetings, and thank you for opening this with such honesty. The seriousness of what you are describing, combined with the openness to correction, is exactly the kind of reflection the Temple of Zeus and its Clergy consistently call for from members.

Your central observation is faithful to preserved Temple teaching. The more you put into the work, the more the Gods meet it. Who Will Do It? by High Priest Zevios Metathronos states it plainly: "The more of you cross your hands, the more the Gods will cross theirs." Contribution is not a transaction, but the relationship is real and reciprocal. Your encouragement to other members to engage, help, and give to the Temple is well placed. Small Acts? I don't think so. makes the same point: what we call "big acts" are built from smaller acts done diligently over time, and those who do their daily tasks with care are guaranteed to one day be among those doing greater acts.

The dizzy, dissociative feeling when the Gods amplify is not something you have to interpret alone. In a public reply describing his own first encounter with the Gods in their true form, High Priest Zevios writes that he nearly fell unconscious, his limited mind exposed to a reality far larger than it could fully process, and he understood that he knew far less than he had thought. That is not a failure of perception. It is what overwhelming divine reality does to a human mind that is still expanding to contain it. Your own reminder to stay grounded is itself one of the most important teachings in the Temple: states and feelings are not to be mistaken for truth. In a public reply on dizziness, High Priest Zevios notes that lightheadedness can mean the body is not yet accustomed to raised energy, and recommends no more than ten minutes of Hatha Yoga a day to build tolerance. High Priestess Lydia Coventina gives a direct regrounding practice for exactly this: after meditation, rub your palms together until warm, place them over your closed eyes, trace heat down your face and body, breathe into your Solar plexus, then open your eyes. Think of it as climbing a mountain. One has to camp at certain heights for a period of time to acclimatize before moving further. The body needs the same patience as the spirit. When the cascade hits and the Gods feel overwhelming, do this and the body will return to itself faster.

On the merging of extremes you described, the chthonic alongside the heavenly, the serious alongside the playful, you are describing something the Temple has taught for years. The Duality of Divinity by High Priest Zevios Metathronos makes this explicit: perceiving the ancient Gods as one-dimensional beings is to grasp only half of their cosmic reality. They hold a complete spectrum from the celestial to the subterranean. When you feel them merging inside one perception, you are not inventing theology. You are touching what the ancient priesthoods understood and what the Clergy has kept alive.

On the Sages who appeared to sit still on mountains while your culture preserved them as healers, teachers, and defenders: your research matched Temple teaching. Genuine spiritual people were never passive. The stories of hermits withdrawn from the world were often later distortions, consistent with Temple teaching on action over passivity. Virtue Ϝ, Acts and Noble Acts by High Priest Zevios Metathronos states it directly: "Of all, those who advance the least are those who do nothing and embark on no action. Every action matters, small or great." When the Gods amplify their presence in your life, the expected output is not blissful retreat. It is refinement, new standards, new goals, and active creation. You saw this clearly in your own experience. That is faithful to Temple teaching.

On imperfect or small actions done with pure intent: the Clergy has spoken to this directly. What Will The Gods Think? addresses it plainly: "The Gods do not blame us for being victims of certain limitations or struggles. They understand humanity and they are not irrational with us." What matters is the will to do one's best and the persistence to keep going. You are holding to that principle correctly.

Your "temporary vessels" framing is your own language, and that is fine. The underlying Temple principle is supported by direct Clergy teaching. When a member was surprised that help had come through an evangelical person, High Priest Zevios replied: "The Gods can help you through just about anyone." That is the doctrinal backbone of what you sensed. The Gods are sovereign over all souls. They do not restrict their influence to those who worship them. The same Gods who observe every human being regardless of culture or label respond to sincere approach even when it comes through unexpected channels. You do not need to adopt the exact phrase to stand on solid Temple ground. The principle is there.

A practical next step: keep the grounding practice close. When the cascade hits and the Gods feel overwhelming, do High Priestess Lydia's regrounding steps, ten minutes of Hatha Yoga, and continue your daily routine. If the dizziness or dissociation becomes distressing rather than just intense, write to the Clergy directly. This is the kind of work they guide members through every day. You are not asking too much. You are following the path with sincerity, and the Temple teaches that sincerity is what the Gods see.

Hail God Zeus. Hail Goddess Hera.

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This is the targeted message.

I encourage other members to contribute more in forum

Hello,

I'm sure you know telling someone to do X thing rarely works, especially when not directed at anyone specific and buried under a ton of other words.

Because you asked for a discussion and correction at your first sentence, I will try to give you my best here.

If you want to encourage people to be more active, you should make it more pleasant to be more active. For example, interact with them in the replies of their threads and be kind. We are living in an age of iPad baby attention span. You will lose them before halfway through with the length of most of your posts. Try to be more precise. Try to be less about yourself and more about listening, understanding, reaching out. These are what will make people more willing to be active and interact with you.

In short, encouraging is not telling people what to do, it does not work like that. So by telling this, you did not actually encourage anyone. Only if you put action and effort into it like being receptive, caring, and helpful, will you have done the encouraging.

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by Pamela

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I'm sure you know telling someone to do X thing rarely works

Thank you Pammy for your reply! I was open to discussion about experiences or the Gods, not really about the quality of content itself, but it is good, thank you for your feedback!

Yes, in case i made a thread and said : hello, i encourage forum contribution, have a great day.

it was not the case above

especially when not directed at anyone specific and buried under a ton of other words.

I cannot comment on peoples thread and tell them to contribute more lol, and also it must be buried under a ton of other words,

It is not right to drop a call to action, without backing it with anything else

If you want to encourage people to be more active, you should make it more pleasant to be more active. For example, interact with them in the replies of their threads and be kind.

Pammy, everyone does something different, we are not all the same, And that is the beauty of it,

In my case i shared my experiences, which is something many do not want to do, even if they have experiences,

And it is not easy thing to do, given the risks of being labeled attention seeking or delusional, so i had to step on my ego to do so, for the benefit of the forum,

Since experiences, make people know this is real,

You can debate the Gods are real all day, but if you tell one i just feel them i just hear in my mind etc.. the skeptical will just say : what if it is just your mind ? What if this is schizophrenia ? Etc..

There are advanced people that after already having experiences with Gods, still doubt if the Gods are real or a construct of their mind,

With sharing my experiences, like the object movement for example,

One reads this and knows there are some that saw things, that point 100% it is real,

Not everyone is going by feelings and thoughts,

Check this for example:

[ The JREF's $1M Paranormal Challenge (1964–2015) invited scientific proof of supernatural abilities; over 1,000 applied, yet none passed the testing criteria. ]

Many if you talk to them about reality of Gods etc.. will you bring you something like this,

I personally do not know why everyone failed, maybe the Gods do not want to collaborate in those kind of things,

However, i can say for certain that i experienced Supernatural abilities,

So this not to be taken lightly,

Before i saw only the High Priest mention that, maybe another person did, but i never saw it mentioned,

Also, some DO experience crazy things, but they do not talk about it,

long story short, when people read my experiences, and know there is the possibility to have those with Gods and in the Path, like hearing the music etc..

One start understanding that Zevism is not about daydreaming about Gods,

And just doing empty prayers,

But it is real, in the sense there are things going on,

This is what i HATE the most in some advanced people, who will start talking to you about mythology, and the Gods and aliens, and will never ever mention they had an experience or whatever,

They practice things privately, have their experiences, are evolving, but when talking to others they gatekeep they may even mislead and hide knowledge and hide the potential being there,

You see this being said in some secret societies,

‘Only the Highest in rank can talk to our God’

While here in Zevism, everyone is encouraged to practice, not only a Priest can talk to Gods, but another member can achieve that too,

I never read Aristotle, Never read the Odyssey etc…

I barely started, and i see how people discuss those things, many keep pushing that this is pure mythology, while in fact, i was shocked by some things there,

Many times they describe Gods very accurately,

The first time i knew the Gods to be real,

It was through a person that explained it from within my culture, and he explained that this is the oldest religion,

He had like 2 likes in every post, and did weekly a prayer in a video to Zeus,

I just kept watching this and thought : wait, he cant be crazy ?

Since he talked well he was not some delusional or some person who loved the Myth,

In fact, he argued against this word ´Myth’ and explained how it is used to slander this religion,

When once i talked to him, i asked him like: is Zeus real? And those things,

He told me for example he once heard the Triton,

The fact he was confident in what he says made me start considering that the Gods may be real,

On top of this, he was saying like Gods can make a whole continent have more water and prosper, and they can also make it go dry,

Those kind of big stuff, insisting that Gods can have big influence on earth,

This made me start changing my stance from ´the Gods are not real’ to ´Wait, this one can’t be insane, and second this is beautiful, i hope they are real, and third, he made me doubtful about Gods instead of thinking with certainty that they are not.’

So i personally, benefited so much from others when he talked openly and shared experiences,

HPS Pythia did this too,

And i have a philosophy in life, after i benefit from something and then surpass that [ i benefited from experiences to help believe, and now i do believe ], i then amplify the very thing that helped me before moving on,

So that people who come later, won’t find it being same, even if i walked the path before,

I should not keep it like it was, i should make it better for the one who is coming later,

You said : We are living in an age of iPad baby attention span.

One really can do nothing significant in the path if he does not solve that problem,

if one is eager to know the Gods, he will read an experience, even if he has attention span of a fish,

if 100 people read my thread, i would rather make it as good as i can and lose 95 not reading it fully, and have 5 people eager to discuss Gods continue reading,

Than make it ´meh’ and lose the 5 people for the 95.

You said : Try to be less about yourself and more about listening, understanding, reaching out.

Experiences are about myself, to be able to talk about experience, i should talk about myself,

So i am not ´all about myself’ i am ´sharing personal experiences’

You said: encouraging is not telling people what to do, it does not work like that.

I did not tell people what to do,

I shared my testimonial, if one wants to act or to ignore, that is his decision,

I am not a clergy i will not craft things that look like i am trying to be clergy or look like a clergy,

in fact, the imperfection makes it more real, that is my opinion.

What do you think about the experiences and personal gnosis ( that can be wrong) i share, are they helpful or not?

I am interested in knowing your opinion on that.

By the way, in one of my threads,a member got open about his experience of hearing music in meditation , in another, another member did that too and expressed better experiences with Gods when using their new names, in another thread a member talked how he ´maybe ´ experienced object movement, which is even better it shows he is discerning, and the experience then sounds more legit, so as far as i remember, at least 3 got open about sharing experiences, which i loved personally, since this will help many skepticals.

I also encouraged some in Vultus to share their experiences here, instead of there, since it get lost in the chat.

also i encouraged in Vultus people to be open about experiences, but they refused.

Finally, this statement of yours [I'm sure you know telling someone to do X thing rarely works]

I disagree with strongly, if you research Marketing, it is a MUST to tell people what to do, CTA( Call To Action) is a must. Either directly or indirectly.

What dictates what is effective, is to check numbers after each style of call to action,

Seing which thread get the most engagement, and seing what is recurrent in them,

Seing the threads with most views and checking similarities of titles,

Checking the subjects that members engaged with the most and doing more of that, or using it to drive traffic to then talk about another subject,

I am not a clergy to do this, and this is not something i can do if i was clergy since this needs time,

I am a member sharing his experience with Zevism, nothing more,

But i know there are members with great potential, and i am always happy to read their threads, experiences etc.. and see them refining and upgrading their style, engagement etc.. very inspiring.

There are members with very good threads and ideas.

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If you want to encourage people to be more active, you should make it more pleasant to be more active. For example, interact with them in the replies of their threads and be kind.

Yes this is very good, i agree🙏🏻

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