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[sunrise]

I like the drawing, the style, it's executed quite fine, but I don't like the message. I DO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S MEANT BUT DOESN'T ACT FINE ON MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND. I would love to see 'The Satanist' as a mighty warrior, happy, proud, filled with riches, wisdom, whatever POSITIVE THINGS, NOT WITH WOUNDS, BLEEDING, SUFFERING - THIS IS A NO NO TO ME, SORRY.

 

[Aquarius]

Nice one !

 

[sunrise]

I like the drawing, the style, it's executed quite fine, but I don't like the message. I DO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S MEANT BUT DOESN'T ACT FINE ON MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND. I would love to see 'The Satanist' as a mighty warrior, happy, proud, filled with riches, wisdom, whatever POSITIVE THINGS, NOT WITH WOUNDS, BLEEDING, SUFFERING - THIS IS A NO NO TO ME, SORRY.

What is a Satanist?

A Satanist is a being who is persecuted for knowing the truth. He is surrounded by people who would see him destroyed, he is attacked, threatened and cursed. And still he fights, he survives, he struggles. Being a Satanist is a struggle. One that separates true "warriors" from the pussies that run off terrified when they get attacked for the first time. The Satanist holds with him the future of his people.

And if he's not willing to fight and bleed for it, he is no true Satanist.

In regards to using words and actually misusing them. You need to be careful. Use them wisely, we are strong we can manifest what we speak as we speak

I remember a girl from the forum a while ago was saying something to a brother about SACRIFICING TIME FOR MEDITATION and I was like WTF???? This is her native language, WTF is she saying?.

YOU DO NOT SACRIFICE TIME FOR MEDITATION, YOU INVEST.

Use affirmations wisely in your day to day dealings, not only while performing magic. In your art as well be careful about symbolism as when you create you stick it there deep inside your mind and will work subtlely to sabotage you. Also, people need to understand that is not a struggle to be a Satanist. The mind hates the word STRUGGLE AND WILL FIGHT TO REJECT IT AND AVOID IT. Understand how the brain and mind work, make your life easier. Associate Satanist with wonderful things, it doesn't mean that we don't or won't face challenges, just let's not put ourselves on a cross like jesus bleeding and in pain wounded OR BLAH BLAH.

NO

 

[Dahaarkan]

Bruh how about you chill the fuck out.

This is not a lengthy super charged spell with affirmations of sacrifice and suffering it's a fucking drawing. I understand how the subconscious works but my art is not that powerful, you're totally exaggerating this point.

I am programming energy yes, even though I didn't raise any energies and didn't speak any affirmations, a piece of artwork has the same effect as a powerful and lengthy spell. Sure, why not.

So what if I draw a self portrait surrounded by wealth that means I'll become rich in a week or some shit?


You won't "tie into it's energies"...yikes. As far as everyone who has spoken on this, you're the only one giving it negative meaning. The wounds represent perseverance. You're the one giving them a wholly negative meaning.

And I don't have a problem with you not liking what I made, that's totally fine. But you need to chill out lol


I don't know what world you live in but where I come from we are constantly WARNED to keep the fact we're Satanists well hidden. Satan himself has warned of this. But somehow in your mind a Satanist is not surrounded by people who would see him destroyed.

 

[sunrise]

Bruh how about you chill the fuck out.

This is not a lengthy super charged spell with affirmations of sacrifice and suffering it's a fucking drawing. I understand how the subconscious works but my art is not that powerful, you're totally exaggerating this point.

I am programming energy yes, even though I didn't raise any energies and didn't speak any affirmations, a piece of artwork has the same effect as a powerful and lengthy spell. Sure, why not.

So what if I draw a self portrait surrounded by wealth that means I'll become rich in a week or some shit?


You won't "tie into it's energies"...yikes. As far as everyone who has spoken on this, you're the only one giving it negative meaning. The wounds represent perseverance. You're the one giving them a wholly negative meaning.

And I don't have a problem with you not liking what I made, that's totally fine. But you need to chill out lol


I don't know what world you live in but where I come from we are constantly WARNED to keep the fact we're Satanists well hidden. Satan himself has warned of this. But somehow in your mind a Satanist is not surrounded by people who would see him destroyed.

Well, in my acceptance you have zero vision as an artist, you can improve your technique which is fine and acceptable (I work in the field) and please rename your drawing 'satanist x name'

IT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE FOR ALL SATANISTS

'wealth' was a random example to put emphasis on rather positive traits than SORROW AND DESPAIR don't take it into a more deep meaning for nothing; about being hidden THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS it's fine but why not control that PERSECUTION PARANOID ATTITUDE INSTEAD THAT 'PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU DESTROYED' AND BLAH BLAH.

Just please, make sure that when you draw 'Satanists' again you don't make then physically HANDICAPPED.

This is Joy of Satan not 'sorrow' of Satan

Thank you

 

[Dahaarkan]

It's interesting since your first post you seem to think your opinion or acceptance is very important to me. And think it's this almost hysterical style of debating that will make me or anyone conform to what you deem as acceptable.

The entire clergy could come on this thread to say it's shit I wouldn't really care that much. Who are you again?

In this work I put my feelings of perseverance, that our indomitable spirit can push on despite anything that they throw at us. You look at this and see a curse, and complain in several posts that I am making some sort of affirmation to bring misery and suffering to Satanists.

Do you even understand what you're accusing me of doing, over a drawing? Not to mention you're literally affirming shit like this in the same posts:

No wonder why so many of you are so DEPRESSED ALL THE TIME

???

Were it as bad and as negative as you are claiming it is, it would not have gotten through the mods. There is a difference between being realistic and being paranoid, just like there is a difference in being positive and being DELUSIONAL. If you truly believe Satanists are NOT persecuted go take a walk outside and let everyone know you're a Satanist. Hey, no one wants to destroy you, everybody loves you! I'm sure it'll be fine!

It's funny, I used to think like that when I dedicated years ago. I feel the consequences of such delusional stupidity even to this day.

In conclusion, affirmation takes effect and manifests when energy is programmed through the affirmation. Saying, writing or drawing something will have little to no effect if there isn't substantial energy to go with it. Your arguments are grossly exaggerated.

An argument could be made that energies from the enemy's curses hop in and amplify negative affirmation towards us. That being said, the meaning I placed into the imagery while creating it is perseverance and determination, the strength and willpower to push through difficulties and pain, like I have done, like many Satanists have, and like many Satanists are doing. So it does not carry negative meaning or affirmation by default it is then up to the person viewing it to attribute to it a negative or positive meaning.

Also the whole thing of taking snippets of text, twisting them and removing context to fit your argument is frankly quite boring and I don't think anyone really falls for it around here. It's cute and all but trying to twist this:

The Satanist holds with him the future of his people.

And if he's not willing to fight and bleed for it, he is no true Satanist.

(Which has a very specific and meaningful context)

into this:

'If he is no willing to bleed he is not a true satanist?'

...is just lazy. I mean if you're going to try that at least don't quote exactly what I said in the same post where you twist my words around. I'm not sure what your game is. If you're sincerely concerned although misguided, or if you're just trying to make me look bad?

Because if it's the latter I got news for you buddy I make myself look bad just fine on my own I don't need your help lol

As for your "acceptance" as you so eloquently put it, I'm sorry to say it has no value whatsoever

But I fully accept and understand the criticism that the image takes a darker tone and CAN be interpreted as negative despite my true intention, and that the argument could be made that it is even inappropriate. I'll understand if mods decide to remove the image.

Thank you

 

[SSGrim88]

Well...on a more positive note...I agree with the symbolism ^^
Nice drawing

 

[Aquarius]

Bruh how about you chill the fuck out.

This is not a lengthy super charged spell with affirmations of sacrifice and suffering it's a fucking drawing. I understand how the subconscious works but my art is not that powerful, you're totally exaggerating this point.

I am programming energy yes, even though I didn't raise any energies and didn't speak any affirmations, a piece of artwork has the same effect as a powerful and lengthy spell. Sure, why not.

So what if I draw a self portrait surrounded by wealth that means I'll become rich in a week or some shit?


You won't "tie into it's energies"...yikes. As far as everyone who has spoken on this, you're the only one giving it negative meaning. The wounds represent perseverance. You're the one giving them a wholly negative meaning.

And I don't have a problem with you not liking what I made, that's totally fine. But you need to chill out lol


I don't know what world you live in but where I come from we are constantly WARNED to keep the fact we're Satanists well hidden. Satan himself has warned of this. But somehow in your mind a Satanist is not surrounded by people who would see him destroyed.

Well, in my acceptance you have zero vision as an artist, you can improve your technique which is fine and acceptable (I work in the field) and please rename your drawing 'satanist x name'

IT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE FOR ALL SATANISTS

'wealth' was a random example to put emphasis on rather positive traits than SORROW AND DESPAIR don't take it into a more deep meaning for nothing; about being hidden THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS it's fine but why not control that PERSECUTION PARANOID ATTITUDE INSTEAD THAT 'PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU DESTROYED' AND BLAH BLAH.

Just please, make sure that when you draw 'Satanists' again you don't make then physically HANDICAPPED.

This is Joy of Satan not 'sorrow' of Satan

Thank you

I don’t see nothing negative here, perhaps you would enjoy some flowers or feces on canvas?

 

[FancyMancy]

If I may push my way into this (I CBA to read the fighting posts) - did anyone agree with what I said?

 

[NinRick]

Yeah man when I first saw this picture, I thought „damn I do not want this to happen to me. I am here to become strong so I do not have to suffer anymore.“

I do not know anything about art, and I know that you as an artist want to show your opinion on certain topics.

However, wouldn’t it be great if you motivate your brothers and sisters? To ignite a fire in us? Soo I would like to see the positive aspects of Satanism depicted rather than the negative. Like interacting with our Gods, growing strong, or hold side by side as Satanists ( with the massage „you are never alone!“) idk for members who need motivation, or need to remembered that everything will be allright , you are not alone, you will make it through this.

As sunrise already said, many of us came to Satan because of intense pain, it was too much for us. I do not want to be remembered about this pain or anything related to it.

Also many members of JoS who are new are going through a very hard time right now. Imagine what an impact this picture could make on them.

We need their moral and motivation high.

Of course I respect each and anyone of you as SS. Let’s not forget in the end of the day we are still family despite our differing opinions and views.

 

[Shael]

My personal suggestion would be maybe adding a gold/white-gold glow to the wounds, indicating that they are being healed.
After all, this is what we are here for.
Many of us have been with Satan for lifetimes, struggled against adversity, and sustained many wounds in our struggle against the enemy. Now is the time for us to heal these wounds as we finally come out as the victors of this war.

 

[groryofsatan666]

If I may push my way into this (I CBA to read the fighting posts) - did anyone agree with what I said?

Yes

 

[FancyMancy]

If I may push my way into this (I CBA to read the fighting posts) - did anyone agree with what I said?

Yes

Nice.