Retro games

[NeonBlue]

I think that retro games might have less programming in them. I hope I havent stepped on a landmine here. I enjoyed master of magic and shadowrun dragonfall. I saw some of the new games out there like Dragonball, cyberpunk 2077, some horror games and berserk and while they arent bad games I wanted to hear peoples opinions on the older games.

What are your favorite ones?

 

[Aquarius]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

 

[Power of Justice [SG]]

I think you will find that most people here don't have much free time, and certainly not enough time to get involved with video games much.

 

[xlnt]

I think you will find that most people here don't have much free time, and certainly not enough time to get involved with video games much.

I think that's true for the utterly most serious Satanists who are occupied with rituals and moderation of this forum.
Not for me though, not yet anyway I love games and retro games with oldschool pixel graphics are amongst my favorites.
Those will probably be enjoyed even when we have real life looking VR games, which we almost have by now.

 

[luis]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

I think we should have a bit of fun once in a while. If you have a good routine where you do most of the things you must do, it will help you set a bit of fun time too. We can't work work work or it will get boring.

 

[Aquarius]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

I think we should have a bit of fun once in a while. If you have a good routine where you do most of the things you must do, it will help you set a bit of fun time too. We can't work work work or it will get boring.

There are many ways to entertain yourself that can give something back in return, videogames are just a literal waste of time, I never said don't do it, just that if you do it keep that in mind.

 

[luis]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

I think we should have a bit of fun once in a while. If you have a good routine where you do most of the things you must do, it will help you set a bit of fun time too. We can't work work work or it will get boring.

There are many ways to entertain yourself that can give something back in return, videogames are just a literal waste of time, I never said don't do it, just that if you do it keep that in mind.

I don't really game. Like once in a blue moon but I still think we should not be this strict. I've read Hoodedcobra liking some games and just saying he does not have enough time to do it now. I just think entertainment is part of human nature, even reading a book could be wasting your time (I mean like a novel not a book about learning skills) but we still have creative people making them and still others enjoying the stories. Same thing with games.

 

[inactive name]

Competitive/Player vs player games get me in a state of focus and engagement that's difficult to achieve in other ways.

 

[Aquarius]

I think we should have a bit of fun once in a while. If you have a good routine where you do most of the things you must do, it will help you set a bit of fun time too. We can't work work work or it will get boring.

There are many ways to entertain yourself that can give something back in return, videogames are just a literal waste of time, I never said don't do it, just that if you do it keep that in mind.

I don't really game. Like once in a blue moon but I still think we should not be this strict. I've read Hoodedcobra liking some games and just saying he does not have enough time to do it now. I just think entertainment is part of human nature, even reading a book could be wasting your time (I mean like a novel not a book about learning skills) but we still have creative people making them and still others enjoying the stories. Same thing with games.

Are you perhaps not understanding me? I never said not to play, I don't even have that authority over anyone, I just told you that it's completely wasted time, there is no return on gaming, just a void of knowing you'll never get that time back you spent on gaming. Yes HC said he doesn't have time for it anymore, he also said that it was a waste of time, as I'm telling you now.

 

[luis]

There are many ways to entertain yourself that can give something back in return, videogames are just a literal waste of time, I never said don't do it, just that if you do it keep that in mind.

I don't really game. Like once in a blue moon but I still think we should not be this strict. I've read Hoodedcobra liking some games and just saying he does not have enough time to do it now. I just think entertainment is part of human nature, even reading a book could be wasting your time (I mean like a novel not a book about learning skills) but we still have creative people making them and still others enjoying the stories. Same thing with games.

Are you perhaps not understanding me? I never said not to play, I don't even have that authority over anyone, I just told you that it's completely wasted time, there is no return on gaming, just a void of knowing you'll never get that time back you spent on gaming. Yes HC said he doesn't have time for it anymore, he also said that it was a waste of time, as I'm telling you now.

I'm understanding. I just said while it is a 'waste' of time, we humans have creative urges like making novels, songs and so on and other people read and listen to them. Those are waste of time too, especially if you do this all the time instead of doing something useful but you wouldn't say to someone stop reading or listening to music. This is why I said Games are good but only if you don't spend all the time on them.

 

[Henu the Great]

Competitive/Player vs player games get me in a state of focus and engagement that's difficult to achieve in other ways.

You should try sports then.

 

[Onbael_]

I realize it's a waste of time, but some games seem to be a creative outlet.

The bad part is that creativity is limited by the limitations of the game itself, and basically any progress I make stays in the game and is itself useless.

How could I express my creativity?
Advice?

 

[Henu the Great]

How could I express my creativity?
Advice?

Arts, sports, creating a business, for example.

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

I realize it's a waste of time, but some games seem to be a creative outlet.

The bad part is that creativity is limited by the limitations of the game itself, and basically any progress I make stays in the game and is itself useless.

How could I express my creativity?
Advice?

Learn how to make your own video game...

 

[xlnt]

"Waste of time" well I think that depends. If there is zero enjoyment, inspiration or brain training from it then I would agree, but not if the opposite is true.

For example: Puyo Puyo 2 on the Sega Genesis is an excellent fast puzzle game you have to use logic to beat.

Would not describe that one as a "waste of time" since it's challenging your logic, like other games can do also.
I do not play for that long or often, but now and then I think it can be both relaxing, inspirational and good for training focus, reaction, logic etc.

I do have a friend who plays a lot of this "World of Warcraft" though while drinking a lot of wine and thus wasting time more or less with that, which could be better spent on meditation, reading and so on. But it's his life.

 

[inactive name]

Competitive/Player vs player games get me in a state of focus and engagement that's difficult to achieve in other ways.

You should try sports then.

What makes you think I don't?

 

[Egon]

The Legend of Zelda games, specially the N64 era ones. They are works of art of great taste, and there's also some European and Japanese mysticism in them which is all the better.

 

[NeonBlue]

So many good points all over. About how games can sharpen the mind and also a good deal about how we use our time. Now thats a big one but Im really not talking about 24 hour marathons of games here but instead about the state of where one has tried and tried and now its time to rest and enjoy something.

Its definitely better to meditate and rtr of course but you cant just not do anything else right? Just make sure you do a few shades more in meditations and rtrs. But I understand that it takes time, encouragement and effort to make people realise that meditation actually works and people just dont realise that.

 

[Aquarius]

I don't really game. Like once in a blue moon but I still think we should not be this strict. I've read Hoodedcobra liking some games and just saying he does not have enough time to do it now. I just think entertainment is part of human nature, even reading a book could be wasting your time (I mean like a novel not a book about learning skills) but we still have creative people making them and still others enjoying the stories. Same thing with games.

Are you perhaps not understanding me? I never said not to play, I don't even have that authority over anyone, I just told you that it's completely wasted time, there is no return on gaming, just a void of knowing you'll never get that time back you spent on gaming. Yes HC said he doesn't have time for it anymore, he also said that it was a waste of time, as I'm telling you now.

I'm understanding. I just said while it is a 'waste' of time, we humans have creative urges like making novels, songs and so on and other people read and listen to them. Those are waste of time too, especially if you do this all the time instead of doing something useful but you wouldn't say to someone stop reading or listening to music. This is why I said Games are good but only if you don't spend all the time on them.

Music and books aren't a waste of time and I don't consider them as such. Perhaps you'll understand it in time that one form of entertainment is not equal to another.

 

[Henu the Great]

Are you perhaps not understanding me? I never said not to play, I don't even have that authority over anyone, I just told you that it's completely wasted time, there is no return on gaming, just a void of knowing you'll never get that time back you spent on gaming. Yes HC said he doesn't have time for it anymore, he also said that it was a waste of time, as I'm telling you now.

I'm understanding. I just said while it is a 'waste' of time, we humans have creative urges like making novels, songs and so on and other people read and listen to them. Those are waste of time too, especially if you do this all the time instead of doing something useful but you wouldn't say to someone stop reading or listening to music. This is why I said Games are good but only if you don't spend all the time on them.

Music and books aren't a waste of time and I don't consider them as such. Perhaps you'll understand it in time that one form of entertainment is not equal to another.

There are various games and the same with books. Then there is the social aspect to both of these worlds. Saying that games are a waste of time is your viewpoint, but it does not make it objectively the truth.

 

[BlueLake666]

I realize it's a waste of time, but some games seem to be a creative outlet.

The bad part is that creativity is limited by the limitations of the game itself, and basically any progress I make stays in the game and is itself useless.

How could I express my creativity?
Advice?

You can try to use Yahaha to create your games.

It is mostly free and it contains a lot of assets, from levels to elements that can be added such as heries, villains or neutral characters, treasures, rewards, and also objects that can.be hudden in your level, or objects in which you can hide with your character, if you play hide and seek there.

 

[xlnt]

Speaking of creating games, one can also mod already made games and make maps for it.
Here is a project I was working on for the game Duke Nukem 3D. I did my own apartment in 3D (that's where you start off):
https://odysee.com/@xlnt666:7/flashlight_duke_project:c

I also added a flashlight and replaced sprites/sounds for the weapons of the original game.
This project never got "finished" though but it was fun anyways. Now you get to see how I live
Hunted by those alien bastards.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

My childhood game was Heroes of Might and Magic 3

 

[BlueLake666]

My childhood game was Heroes of Might and Magic 3

Mines too!

Always loved to play it in the network with my friends when I was having g free time. And I steel do that today.

The thing that always fascinated me about that game was the capacity of going anywhere and combine strategy with magical powers.

Though some of them were fictions, as in like any other games, some reassembled real powers like the lightning bolt spell which in my opinion seems like the elektrokinesis.

Ah... what a series of good flashbacks you gave to me

For Erathia my friends, we gotta save Erathia!

 

[Henu the Great]

Competitive/Player vs player games get me in a state of focus and engagement that's difficult to achieve in other ways.

You should try sports then.

What makes you think I don't?

You might want to look into dopamine detox if you can't stay in the zone during sports training and competition.

 

[inactive name]

You should try sports then.

What makes you think I don't?

You might want to look into dopamine detox if you can't stay in the zone during sports training and competition.

Sports require partners and arranged meeting times, training centers to pay for (depending on the sport), rest, nutrition etc etc...

They're completely different activities and experiences...

There are various games and the same with books. Then there is the social aspect to both of these worlds. Saying that games are a waste of time is your viewpoint, but it does not make it objectively the truth.

I don't get why you would say that to me and then this to him.
It has me a bit confused on where you stand.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

I agree. Can there be better “game” than reality? If someone would realise that there is no such thing, video games then appears as total time waste.

 

[Aquarius]

That you should play them if you want but always know that they're a total waste of time.

I agree. Can there be better “game” than reality? If someone would realise that there is no such thing, video games then appears as total time waste.

It literally becomes strange to play games after you get to know the satisfaction of progressing your real life.

 

[Henu the Great]

Sports require partners and arranged meeting times, training centers to pay for (depending on the sport), rest, nutrition etc etc...

They're completely different activities and experiences...

I am talking about what sports are in essence, the process therein, and the required focus. Not much different than competitive gaming.

I don't get why you would say that to me and then this to him.
It has me a bit confused on where you stand.

All I am saying is that if you have a hard time focusing on other than high dopamine activities, it could help you to lower the threshold and as a result be able to focus on other activities as well.

 

[NeonBlue]

I'm understanding. I just said while it is a 'waste' of time, we humans have creative urges like making novels, songs and so on and other people read and listen to them. Those are waste of time too, especially if you do this all the time instead of doing something useful but you wouldn't say to someone stop reading or listening to music. This is why I said Games are good but only if you don't spend all the time on them.

Music and books aren't a waste of time and I don't consider them as such. Perhaps you'll understand it in time that one form of entertainment is not equal to another.

There are various games and the same with books. Then there is the social aspect to both of these worlds. Saying that games are a waste of time is your viewpoint, but it does not make it objectively the truth.

Games and books? Mentioning these together reminds me of text adventures! I dont mean to fuss I was just feeling nostalgic. Sometimes you can get alot of interesting ideas and motivations from entertainment and it really helps to express yourself in some ways. Shutting off from the world doesnt really help right?

I need to add that its a fact that games can help with ideas, concepts and such even if it sounds silly at first. Mainly these things keep the mind sharp as strategy games and puzzle type games.

Different types of entertainment were never made to be equal to one another as they all have different types of effects and appeals. Also entertainment can introduce concepts that are abstract or more clearly defined and get people thinking. There are other ways, plenty of them Im not saying we should go crazy on games here.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Video games have interactive properties that are exclusive to the medium that is not present anywhere else and when certain elements are present I think these can be considered art. However most games are designed for entertainment & addiction purposes with the intent of maximizing profits from consumers.

Games that have strong narratives or mechanics that incentivize the user to tap into their creativity and make it manifest in the simulation can have similar psychological effects to other mediums of art.

In the example of a story-driven game, one can experience emotional responses to witnessing this story develop in the same way one can experience these by reading a fantasy book. Shocking and/or emotional scenes in these can elicit similar responses from viewers as a disturbing/emotional painting.


But these are all things of the past as games are no longer developed by artists, writers and creative people. Nowadays games are developed by teams of psychologists who finely craft virtual experiences designed to overload your brain with dopamine to cause addiction and dependency on these "games", which typically involve high prices for simple features and mechanics of the game. Modern games being infested with gambling and addictive features are not an accident.

Games could be considered art at some point, but now are reduced to simply being lucrative products. Even most developers independent from Yehuborim companies are developing games in this way.


Modern games are primarily designed to be like addictive drugs and are far more damaging to one's psyche and brain functions than most people believe. People who have completely fried their brains with the extreme overload of dopamine have lost all will and desire to accomplish anything in real life and are complete slaves to these dopamine buttons in the form of games.

Look at the biggest losers, neets and failures in the age-group of around 20-40 and almost all of them have one thing in common. They all play these fucking "games" on a daily basis. And like any drug addict, they become extremely hostile when you criticize their drug and their addiction.

 

[xlnt]

Video games have interactive properties that are exclusive to the medium that is not present anywhere else and when certain elements are present I think these can be considered art. However most games are designed for entertainment & addiction purposes with the intent of maximizing profits from consumers.

Games that have strong narratives or mechanics that incentivize the user to tap into their creativity and make it manifest in the simulation can have similar psychological effects to other mediums of art.

In the example of a story-driven game, one can experience emotional responses to witnessing this story develop in the same way one can experience these by reading a fantasy book. Shocking and/or emotional scenes in these can elicit similar responses from viewers as a disturbing/emotional painting.


But these are all things of the past as games are no longer developed by artists, writers and creative people. Nowadays games are developed by teams of psychologists who finely craft virtual experiences designed to overload your brain with dopamine to cause addiction and dependency on these "games", which typically involve high prices for simple features and mechanics of the game. Modern games being infested with gambling and addictive features are not an accident.

Games could be considered art at some point, but now are reduced to simply being lucrative products. Even most developers independent from Yehuborim companies are developing games in this way.


Modern games are primarily designed to be like addictive drugs and are far more damaging to one's psyche and brain functions than most people believe. People who have completely fried their brains with the extreme overload of dopamine have lost all will and desire to accomplish anything in real life and are complete slaves to these dopamine buttons in the form of games.

Look at the biggest losers, neets and failures in the age-group of around 20-40 and almost all of them have one thing in common. They all play these fucking "games" on a daily basis. And like any drug addict, they become extremely hostile when you criticize their drug and their addiction.

This goes a bit offtopic, but I would not say that all modern games are like that even if many of them today are.
Such addictive games you describe are for example World of Warcraft and Fortnite where people actually buy items/upgrades/characters and get hooked by various rewards in the game.

My favorite modern games are Skate 3, Dishonored and Starcraft 2. None of them are like that, except some people might get a bit too hooked on Starcraft 2, but I don't think that's the game's fault.

On a side note, the reason I never finished the project I mentioned in this thread must be this: nobody gives a shit

 

[xlnt]

no it doesnt refer to cult of human sacrifice i dont know where you got that from i explain in my other message to you it is kali and order of nine angels. i dont think nyarlathotep is blaspheme of thoth that wasnt intention, i just like hp lovecraft so i put this god in signature, like i say he is probably actually a thoughtform right now. you are kinda speculating that i am referencing and secret blaspheme the gods when this isnt true their are secret references in my posts and signature but not the ones you refer to.

In any case that signature picture of yours depicts a murderous being, and is thus not really in line with what Spiritual Satanism is (not about evil, spooks, monsters etc.)
So I (and others apparently) do find it suspicious of you having a signature picture of what looks like a murderous evil human slaying monster.
Not that strange.

That's a common image of the Hindu Goddess Kali. There are spiritual symbolic meanings behind it. Shiva is depicted lying on the ground as well, which is also symbolic. There is nothing suspicious about this picture specifically that I am aware of.

But I would say, even regardless of that - that is how I (and people in general) interpret it, symbolic or not.
It's not exactly something to put on the main JoS frontpage for people to see. Would give the wrong vibes so to say.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

fine mods i will leave i was planning on it anyways, btw i am not pretending to be normal it is actually quite the opposite but this will become more clear soon. i tried to have a little fun and ask some serious questions but it seems thats not allowed here and yes i know in some instances i took things too far. yeah i am self admittedly a troll about half the time but the recent posts you disapproved of were actually completely coherent and somewhat helpful but i digress it doesnt matter. i have studied the jos website more than you know and i do have some serious concerns with this organization which i in my own way tried to get addressed on these forums thats actually the purpose of this account which is quite meaningful but more on this later. perhaps i am here with an elevated perspective just one beyond your comprehension. anyways perhaps it is best for me to take a break, these forums seem to only be a distraction and block in my advancement this trolling shit is quite addicting as you must know but i have been informed how useless it is and i doubt the gods would approve of me doing anymore than i already have done so yes my purpose here has been completed. it was fun while it lasted you guys have a good yule anyways.

ave

There is a reciprocal relationship between the trolling and the subsequent crackdown to preserve the integrity of JoS. That is why I beg people to drop any entertainment-based trolling. You can troll on a video game server, instead.

Maybe you are not Nos, and your true identity had gotten wrapped up in the retardation that occurred on Sunday. Trying to figure out what is going on proves to be a massive headache for the mods and this likely why you started getting worse treatment than you believed to be acceptable.

I will restate that all genuine concerns about Satanism and JoS deserve attention, but people also purposely abuse these attempts at transparency or other improvements of JoS.

I believe you are at least aware of those who have genuinely malicious intentions for JoS, including corruption of our knowledge or warfare efforts. Due to the highly serious nature of this, that is why the mods may act the way they do.

Yes, free speech would be a nice principle to fully implement, but it is also one that gets trashed quiet often here. This was just seen with Frank.Woden, where he started off nice, then got increasingly crazier, including abusing his signature and so on.

I will conclude that a lot of the JoS veterans are trying their best here. That does not mean mistakes can happen or anything like that. However, the constant bombardment from enemies has destroyed many people's patience, so I appreciate your understanding of this.