But have the Gods spoken to you? What exactly does it take to reach the state where one could just talk to Satan/Zeus or any God/Demon, for that matter?
Can't you talk to them in the astral? HPS Pythia mentions seeing Satan/Zeus as a human being, talking to Him as if you were talking to a human in the physical world, but in the astral. HPHC mentioned Satan taking him by the hand and showing him things.
Maybe most Zevists here aren't worthy yet to talk to a God, but just about any spirit aligned with Zeus will do for me. Just some form of direct communication where I'm not second-guessing the information relayed to me.
Wouldn't them just telling us things be the most accurate way of figuring things out?
This whole "what feels right and figure it out by yourself through research" process has so many problems to it that I don't even know where to start regarding listing them all. This is how people formed many different conclusions on just about anything. That's how xians, muslims, yehuborim, hindus and even Zevists here actually come to contradictory conclusions on several topics, all claiming to be "guided" to their opposing conclusions...
I'm also not a big fan of divination due to the power of human mental suggestion and unconcious actions completey screwing the whole process. You can never be sure that it was a God and not your subconscious driving your body to make this or that move in the "divination" session.
I always preferred getting into a trance, opening my third eye and just being shown things or told things, but even then, I'm sure how to know it wasn't just my head making stuff up. HPHC mentioned that there is a process to differentiate between the two in one of his sermons but decided for some reason to keep that method secret... Why he decided to do that is something I'm not sure about. yehuborim can't abuse that knowledge for obvious reasons, and Zevists would only benefit from knowing this method by coming to more accurate conclusions, as they can now know the difference between a God talking and their head making things up.
I appreciate HP's Sermons, but I want to know what it takes to actually speak to a God rather than relying on indirect or unreliable methods or "feelings".
I guess what I'm asking is how to make sure the knowledge you receive on those matters is fully accurate.
Yes, they have spoken to me, and yes, I can see them very regularly in meditation. We tell people to try this as well, because, if one actually follows the Spiritual Path, and trains in the Methods from the Temple of Zeus, anyone can get in real contact with Gods, but the issue lies with people who do not really follow the Spiritual Path and just play around instead. They might claim to be very dedicated or whatever, but they do not advance or practice in reality.
Even when one practices, hard work is needed to achieve something. At least a decade of real advancement is needed to reach a point where you can make real conclusions and realizations. That said, you can feel the Gods, and feel the Blessings or the Powers of these beings to various degrees much earlier.
Gods can come to you in many forms, they adapt to your situation most of the time, to slowly open your limited and diminished consciousness more and more, which will eventually allow someone to perceive them fully.
Divination is indeed something which should be reserved for a significantly advanced practitioner. But people will try it anyways, and then Timmy who has meditated for 3 months does a pendulum reading and asks if Zeus is Satan, and then the pendulum swings no, and now Timmy thinks we, the Temple of Zeus are wrong or something.
While in reality, we who have been on Earth for longer than I can remember, and have been with the Gods for many lifetimes, who have advanced and meditated for many decades, and reached real accomplishments through lifetimes of effort, hardship and growth, understand things better than any other humans.
Timmy doesn't need to accept this if Timmy is not comfortable accepting this, however, we are not going to slow down to keep Timmy comfortable. We will go on ahead without Timmy if he wants to remain stuck in the limited and comfortable reality he imagines in his little head.
Do you see who you are talking about, when you mention the people that have such experiences of direct communication? HPS Pythia. HP Zevios.
High Priests of the Gods, Spiritually Advanced beyond any of us. Do you think every random initiate can receive communication clearly just because they want it?
It isn't so easy. Doesn't mean it cannot be achieved, but you have to work for this, not just a few months, or a year, but actually work for this, and have purpose in this, not merely curiosity. High Priests are shown many things, because they need to know and understand many things to lead the Temple of the Gods, and succeed in their work and mission here.
Regular initiates do not need to know and see things to the same extend, because they just need to keep meditating and living their life bit by bit to improve and grow as human beings.
When you have real experience, and have sufficient advancement, you know the difference between what comes from the mind and what comes from the Gods. This is abundantly clear. You simply know it, there is no doubt. The results of real divination and real communication speak for themselves. There is no nonsense, only Satya, real manifestation, real Blessings, real things.
Such as one time I asked the Gods to save my dying grandmother who was pronounced dead in the hospital, and she was literally given new life in front of my eyes. Not a normal healing of giving vitality and life, but a literal change of fate, allowing for 1 more year of life, in comfort, beyond what was her natural fated lifespan. That is real manifestation, speaks for itself. Real power, and an image I will never forget. It was just a taste of what is possible, and a mercy shown to my grandmother because I desperately wanted her to have a more dignified end to her life, rather than what she was given that time. With knowledge from the Gods, and with their power they can easily give someone hundreds of years of life, but this is something which must be earned first, and not many will actually receive such a Blessing in their life, but these are extremely possible.
When I asked to understand who is Satan, what is Satan really, what does it mean to be All in All, and I see myself get forcibly dragged out of my body, shown the entire Universe unfold before my eyes, and see All under the will of Satan, who is Zeus.
Not something I can merely imagine, but shocking vision with direct answer that completely shatters all previous notions and understanding, making way for real understanding and realization, outside the comfort zone, and beyond the small and limited contexts of humans, but the Reality of True Gods.
You ask for help, you receive acknowledgement, you receive an answer, and what you asked help about manifests very quickly. These experiences show to those of us who receive these, how real the beings are that we worship and learn from. Interesting things, such as being told I will never have to worry about my finances, and seeing how the past decade, despite all the difficulties others have, I indeed never had to worry about my finances.
Real communication, with real manifestation, no imaginary nonsense, but verifiable and true.
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