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Questions: How To Handle These When You Are New & The Right To Religious Privacy

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos8 min to read

Greetings everyone,

This is for new members and new people. So let's say you are interested in Zevism, you read about it, it makes sense, you just went in. Recently started figuring it out. Sometimes people can try to bug you with questions over this: "Why Zeus X and why Gods Y", "What happened this year", "why this why that". You might not be able to answer, and they know it.

Sometimes, people can ask in genuine interest. In other times, they can ask to bait you, cause doubt, or a myriad of other motives. It doesn't matter.

When one doesn't know what to do, Guardians and others, exist here to do precisely this: Keep the environment clear and intact, so you can advance without having to face repsonsibilities you can't yet carry.

In certain cases, other obnoxious people might attempt to enforce you to answer, simulating authority. Why you do this, why do you believe that, the list goes on. If one does not have readiness and knowledge, they might answer wrongly and give a wrong perception to others, or worse, be victimized by their baiting.

The solution is very simple: Redirect them to the forums, point them to Guardians and above, and let them handle it. You cannot answer why the Cosmology is at it is from the onset. You cannot answer questions you have no experience of. You are a learner.

Redirect these people who might be interested, or have vices they try to get out on you, here. "What about this? What do you answer?" - "I am a learner, refer here for your answer and ask them."

That's it. As for other snoops and disrespectful individuals in this life, which are plenty, they might even go miles further. Christians and Muslims have uncanny tendencies to attempt to always get into the lives of other people and their beliefs, oftentimes by psychological or physical force. They believe entitled to this.

They are not. Let's say for example you peacefully browse somewhere on the airport about the Temple of Zeus website. If a Christian or a Muslim comes from behind you and looks at this, and they try to start a quarrel with you even on this, they have already violated the law, simply respond: "Stop violating my privacy and integrity, before I call the authorities. I did not pay any attention to yours".

While the above is an extreme example, we live in a world where people habitually violate the rights of other people. As we seek to not do this to anyone, they are bound to not do this to us. If they continue, it's where law, proportionate force and other problems such as the heaviest occult warfare that can take place. Zevists reserve their rights to be fair, but in unfairness, we deal with it on face value.

This saves you from 90% of mental burden and effort, and it's precisely why the forums and all other platforms exist. We can be approached directly to answer. Nobody must stick you in a corner over your religious beliefs. Members of many religions do literal atrocities and insane things everyday: You have nothing to answer about why you worship Zeus in a world where Jihad exists or where people kill chickens in the streets by twisting them above their heads.

There is no moral, or legal obligation to that end. Your beliefs are yours to keep. Anything else past this point or force by the above grotesque individuals, is something that the moment they begin this, they cause serious problems upon themselves. Your religion is something private and sacred, and protected by law and order. There is nothing to discuss past that point.

United States: Constitution, First Amendment

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

United States: Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title VII, 42 U.S.C. §2000e-2(a)(1)

This prohibits covered employers from discriminating in hiring, dismissal, compensation, or employment conditions because of religion.

United States: Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. §552a(e)(7)

Federal agencies must:

“maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment”

Canada: Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, sections 2(a) and 15(1)

Section 2(a) guarantees:

“freedom of conscience and religion”

Canada: Canadian Human Rights Act, section 3(1)

Religion is expressly listed as a prohibited ground of discrimination. The Act governs matters within federal jurisdiction, including covered employment and services. Provincial and territorial human-rights laws provide additional protection within their respective jurisdictions.

The UN Human Rights Committee’s General Comment No. 22, paragraph 3, interprets these protections to mean:

“no one can be compelled to reveal his thoughts or adherence to a religion or belief.”

European Union: GDPR, Regulation (EU) 2016/679, Article 9

Article 9(1) provides:

“Processing of personal data revealing … religious or philosophical beliefs … shall be prohibited.”

Europe: European Convention on Human Rights, Articles 8, 9 and 14

Article 9(1) states:

“Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion”

European Union: Charter of Fundamental Rights, Articles 8 and 10

Article 8 protects personal data and requires lawful, fair processing for specified purposes. Article 10 protects freedom of thought, conscience, and religion. The Charter binds EU institutions and Member States when implementing EU law.

Nobody should dare to tell you why you follow the Ancient Gods, or why for example, you spend your hours to receive wisdom that to your judgement, is good for you.

Going back to new people, remember your position: You are new and that's a good thing. You're not supposed to be on the answering front when you have just joined, or on your first year where things aren't totally clear. This will take time. It's not up to you to advocate, publicly debate, or argue about anything: Your business is not arguments but spiritual advancement. Bring the "arguers" to the heavyweight Zevists who can turn them into smithereens instead.

Until this time comes where you can stay very solid, redirect them.

Legally as well, your personal beliefs and religious beliefs, are not only Constitutionally protected, but they are also protected by a series of other laws. Lastly, on the secondary layer, if anyone malforms or misrepresents the Temple, they will have to face consequences to this.

In other words, nobody can try to enforce you to reveal what you worship and it's none of their business. Your political beliefs are also the same, unless you want to communicate them.

If you notice people try to do this abusively to you, know you owe no responses. Their main recipe is psychological terrorism and force, such as the puny ones who send me death threats on a consistent basis. The law and the world is against them, and so are the Gods. The moment they do Varvarim the Gods turn against a person.

In the world, the times of the Middle Ages where these people could put people on the pikes for "religious beliefs" and "assumed devil worship", send them to clown religious courts for their belief systems, and even burn them, have passed. With this passing, the next passing is that these neolithic programs of violence will progressively be removed from planet earth.

This is decided by the Gods and Divine Order and despite of their refusal, these times of "glory" are not returning for them. They prove how evil they still are, and how primitive, yet the world has moved on. The bottomless evil of this was recognized, and now it's trying to rear it's head by it's legs are withering. The world currently is free and will remain free from these barbaric forces.

They use the ignorance of other people on the above topics, such as ignorance of the law, to pretend they have authority and power. As always, their power was always a Yehuboric deception. The Yehubor rule by fear, deception and by psychological terrorism. When the people know where they stand, they become immovable. One must know, then one can stand easily.

For a deeper insight into this, read this section which analyzes the legal unalienable rights that you have to practice your religion. Do not be fazed by these neolithic barbarians. Times have already overcome them, and it's time the people also understand this. As for violence, be practical, as many of these neolithic barbarians and their barbaric Gods cannot take a "no" for an answer.

As for anyone else here, It's in your rights to not follow this game with abusers and toxic individuals, nor to listen to abusive individuals who are ahead of themselves and try to exercise force on you of any reason of their own mental incapacity, nor you have to communicate your beliefs to them.

It's your life, you do not owe answers to hostile individuals, despite of what they think. Their hostility removes their rights to answers as well and puts them at serious and grave penalty.

Keep in mind the above and go forward proudly in Zevism.

-AFHP Zevios Metathronos

#1

A good Sermon, thank you HPZM.

Veni, Vidi, Viki and Above All Keep the Flame, for Lady Vesta is the fire, and she keeps all those that keep Her.

#2

Thank you for this High Priest. Living in the bible belt and surrounded by yehuborim is tiresome, but I find strength from the Gods and from my family here in TOZ. I'm proud to be a warrior for the Gods and eternally walk on Their path to Godhead. Being a Zevist means daily advancement if I so choose, and I love letting the Gods shine through me, and allowing my presence and actions speak for themselves in the face of yehubor.

Hail to the the Gods and a special exaltation to my Guardian Daemon for helping to guide me, support me, and protect me in trying times!

My love for our way and our Gods is immense and eternal.

#3

Thank you for this Sermon, High Priest Zevios.

We have the right to practice our Religion and to be proud Zevists, despite what some hostile fools might say or do.

#4

Thank you for the sermon, High Priest. May nothing deter the learners, and may we continue to learn and advance peacefully.

When all your flesh fails you, and when the darkest darkness falls upon you, always remember the Gods and keep them in your heart. The Faith in the Gods can level mountains. All obstacles that you have today, you have the ability to overcome them. You must know this in full confidence, you must ingrain this in your heart.

~HPZM

#5

Thank you, High Priest Zevios Metathronos 🙏 Excellent advice, information and reminder!

I frequently see well-known members direct new comers, in Vultus Templorum chat, to T of Z site, to give them groundwork for common questions; its always a great place to start and usually answers most of those first questions of curiosity.

Thank you for such a beautiful, organized layout, making topics so easy to find. I am loving all the updates!

#6

Thank you High Priest Zevios Metathronos!

It's unfortunate that there will always be people who will test and try our boundaries, trying to get us to violate our own rights as individuals, those people's greatest fear is for us to conduct ourselves in ways that honour ourselves and our religion, because they themselves seldomly do, and it confronts them with their own shortcomings. The Temple is a safe and blessed place for our souls to grow and rediscover the Gods, this will never change 💚🙏

#7

Thank you High Priest. These people do not grow, and don't want other people to grow. They prey on the newcomers who just want to discover the Gods, who found in our Temple something exceptional. This reveals more about them than about the newcomers. They prey on them because they know they have no chance if confronted with a veteran Zevist.

"No matter how high the mountain is, at any level, the next thing you'll be doing is always one single step."

All I do, I do it for our Temple.
Hail Zevs!

"His thunderbolt is the last argument, to which there is no reply"
Orphic Hymn XV - To Zeus

"Every fall is there to be reversed, and as man fell, so might he return."
Satya's Virtue B - "The Fall"

#8
This is the targeted message.

Something very important to remember is that you do not owe anyone explanations. Many argue for the sake of it or with the exclusive intention of converting you. These people might pose you questions, but they are not at all interested in your answers. Do not waste time or expect to change their mind. They could be family, close friends, same rules apply.

#9

An extremely important sermon, impeccable work. Thank you, High Priest; this sermon will be translated into my language and added to the audio sermons. 🥰

#10

Thank you High Priest.

Even when questions are coming from good intentions people, if we do not know the answer, its better to direct those people on the forumor give it to a Guardians or Clergy member. You don't want to mislead anyone in the wrong direction.

#11

This was extremely well said

the trolls objective is to derail you and others, if they have genuine interest, they can refer to the wealth of information provided already or speak to a guardian

We don’t need to justify ourselves to others or go to battle with every person who wishes to bring up the same bullet points and cycle of nonsense. If we fed into every bait laid out for us we would have no time to be genuinely productive.

Of course our goal is to help those who are trying to learn, but it’s important to be able to distinguish the difference between these two things , rather it’s the subject matter or the person themselves

Thankyou HPZM🙏🏼

#12

I’ve talked a lot with muslims and catholics about Zevism. Usually, catholics agree with my arguments and become interested in Eliminism and Neo‑Platonism. But muslims are by nature dogmatic, you give them one argument and in response they give you “War and Peace.” I don’t really care whether a person accepts the viewpoint of Zevism or not, I just want to give people food for thought so that they can move further away from abrahamism towards something greater. And it’s not even my desire, it’s just that life somehow organizes itself in such a way that discussions about religion or philosophy come up very naturally, and I don’t even notice how I start enlightening someone I’ve known for only several minutes or day

Tomorrow is a hope, never a promise

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High Priest Zevios Metathronos

While not all people can, would want, or desire to move to something better, some people are also tied into the vortex of wrong information and being andrapods.

Do not try to "save them" or "dispute them" if they get argumentative. Just let them hang. Only speak with people (and safely) who actually can appreciate the depth and the intelligence of this.

Not everyone will walk to the Gods and many people are not for this now. The elect must move forward to the Gods, and the smart ones, will.

Yes, many Christians will also understand that what Christianity told them was a lie, and that the balance and good qualities they seek to have, are actually accessible in their best form here. These people will appreciate the showing of this direction.

#13

Excellently put, High Priest!

Newcomers who are still finding their footing and studying things don't have to be PhDs in Zevism for a random nobody who feels entitled to the reason for their faith.

Christians are a clear example, but many atheists and others have the same militant debate-bro attitude: that one must have a perfect logical justification for all the things they adhere to.

But this is just a bubble they bully you into, it does not reflect how humans actually entertain or participate in ideas, communities and systems of belief and practice.

We follow the Gods.

"Who, what, when, where, why?"

Well, come, practice, study, and find out.

The end.

~
"That light, He said, am I, Nous, Thy God, who is before the hygra physis borne out of Darkness. The Logos, from Nous, is the Son of God."
- Θ Lord Thoth Θ

#14

The glory of our Gods obliterates Yehuboric nonsense. The more one has faith in our Gods the more this glory becomes apparent in an individual's path.

"In the darkness we have found strength, with which we will reach the highest light." - High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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