Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual

[rpeeziezsweetest707]

How long does it take for the purpose to manifest in the material realm? I am 22 days into the working and can feel the energy very strongly ^-^

 

[Shan823]

It all depends on what the goal is and how hard or easy it would be to attain.




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On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 10:42 PM EDT rpeeziezsweetest707 wrote:

How long does it take for the purpose to manifest in the material realm? I am 22 days into the working and can feel the energy very strongly ^-^

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Before I was half way done with the Saturn Square last year my life all ready started changing.You should start seeing things manifest soon.But remember it could manifest in ways you are not aware of or did not expect.

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From: rpeeziezsweetest707 <gonzalezedlyn@...;
To: ;
Subject: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 2:42:45 AM

<td val[/IMG]   How long does it take for the purpose to manifest in the material realm? I am 22 days into the working and can feel the energy very strongly ^-^

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[Syt R]

Hi brian.

did u do the material or spiritual version of the saturn square?

could u kindly help me out with affirmations for making/changing one's life for the better?


HS.

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Before I was half way done with the Saturn Square last year my life all ready started changing.You should start seeing things manifest soon.But remember it could manifest in ways you are not aware of or did not expect.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.

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From: Syt R <jri9vero@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 1:55:52 AM

<td val[/IMG]   Hi brian.

did u do the material or spiritual version of the saturn square?

could u kindly help me out with affirmations for making/changing one's life for the better?

HS.

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Before I was half way done with the Saturn Square last year my life all ready started changing.You should start seeing things manifest soon.But remember it could manifest in ways you are not aware of or did not expect.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

[/TD]

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[rpeeziezsweetest707]

And also, I did the material saturn square last week for protection from the bad saturn transit and I started the spiritual saturn square this passed saturday and im already starting to notices changes...saturn is transiting my 12th house and im discovering alot of hidden shit that I was unaware of...

--- In , "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[High Priestess Pythia]

The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.

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From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM

<td val[/IMG]   I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

[/TD]

 

[Samantha Walia]

But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: ; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

 

<td val[/IMG]Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM

<td val[/IMG]   I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

[/TD]

 

[Brian Gibbons]

Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.
 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To:
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: ; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

 

<td style="font:[/IMG]Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM

<td style="font:[/IMG]   I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android





[/TD]

 

[kanemohrra]

You're rite on that account. However our country the USA is still ignorant. In faact we are fucking stupid. It would be much safer for a doctor to come to the house. And even escort you to the hospital and be that doctor if the proper equipment is not at the home. Some thing like that should happen. Also I tend to feel that UAB is better than all of these shit hospitals with the Christian names. St Vincants has crappy wait times.

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.


 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To:
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: ; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- In , High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Samantha Walia]

I also have another question. Is the pain in childbirth a gift or a curse?When I was young mama told me that its was gods curse for disobeying, but since I've left all that now, what is a Satanist's perspective to it?
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.
 Hail Satan
Brian 

From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To:
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: ; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

 

<td style="font:[/IMG]Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM

<td style="font:[/IMG]   I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android





[/TD]

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Neither of them, just part of nature. We don't believe in an intelligent creator who created anything, there are only the Gods who genetically engineered humanity.

--- In , Samantha Walia <samy_walia@... wrote:

I also have another question. Is the pain in childbirth a gift or a curse?When I was young mama told me that its was gods curse for disobeying, but since I've left all that now, what is a Satanist's perspective to it?


________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.

 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To:
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: ; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- In , High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]I agree and we know because we have been to all of them in this area.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: kanemohrra <kanemohrra@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 6:16:30 AM

<td val[/IMG]   You're rite on that account. However our country the USA is still ignorant. In faact we are fucking stupid. It would be much safer for a doctor to come to the house. And even escort you to the hospital and be that doctor if the proper equipment is not at the home. Some thing like that should happen. Also I tend to feel that UAB is better than all of these shit hospitals with the Christian names. St Vincants has crappy wait times.

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.


 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[e[/IMG]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoo[/IMG]; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: <<a rel="nofollow">;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

[/TD]

 

[Samantha Walia]

So is Bible is just a made up boatload of bullcrap then? Nothing in it is true?
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  Neither of them, just part of nature. We don't believe in an intelligent creator who created anything, there are only the Gods who genetically engineered humanity.

--- In , Samantha Walia <samy_walia@... wrote:

I also have another question. Is the pain in childbirth a gift or a curse?When I was young mama told me that its was gods curse for disobeying, but since I've left all that now, what is a Satanist's perspective to it?


________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "" <
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.

 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To: "" <
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: <; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: <;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- In , High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Samantha Walia]

I want to go to the UK next year. USA was my first choice but it didnt work out. But i have heard of the antisocial movements against atheists satanists etc by the church. How is the UK regarding religion? Better or worse than USA?
From: kanemohrra <kanemohrra@...
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  You're rite on that account. However our country the USA is still ignorant. In faact we are fucking stupid. It would be much safer for a doctor to come to the house. And even escort you to the hospital and be that doctor if the proper equipment is not at the home. Some thing like that should happen. Also I tend to feel that UAB is better than all of these shit hospitals with the Christian names. St Vincants has crappy wait times.

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.


 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To: "" <
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: <; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: <;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- In , High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Yes on both counts.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [/TD]

From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 6:07:07 PM

<td val[/IMG]   So is Bible is just a made up boatload of bullcrap then? Nothing in it is true?
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.

  Neither of them, just part of nature. We don't believe in an intelligent creator who created anything, there are only the Gods who genetically engineered humanity.

--- [/IMG], Samantha Walia <samy_walia@... wrote:

I also have another question. Is the pain in childbirth a gift or a curse?When I was young mama told me that its was gods curse for disobeying, but since I've left all that now, what is a Satanist's perspective to it?


________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[e[/IMG]
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Thanks for your concern,but Satan is all in this from the beginning to the birth.The Gods will advise us when its time.

 
Hail Satan
Brian 



________________________________
From: Samantha Walia <samy_walia@...
To: "<a rel="nofollow">[e[/IMG]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
But what about all the bad things that happen in hospitals? Like baby burglary or switching or other evil things? Wouldnt it be best to have a doctor come home where you know you are safe? I'm still young and even though I have no plans of having my own baby(I want to adopt) I would want to have my baby at home if at all I do, with professional help of course



________________________________
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "JoyofSatan666@yahoo[/IMG]; "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.


 
Its ok lydia.We try to find the balance in all things.I understand your point and I understand H P HPS Pythia'''s too.The hospital we are are using is one of the top childrens hospitals in the country.But we will keep our mouths shut because it unfortunatlly is a xtian hospital too.And I don't have any satanic tatoos but I do have a pentrgram with a circle around on my left arm so I will keep it covered just in case.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



________________________________
From: lydia_666@... <lydia_666@...;
To: <<a rel="nofollow">;
Subject: Re: Question for those who have completed a sun square for non-spiritual purposes.
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:56:00 AM


 
I've actually had my dislike and distrust of hospitals for as long as I can remember. I suppose I shouldn't have advised Brian & Raven against hospitals... but I'm a bit of an extremist. Thanks for the reply, HPS Pythia.

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG], High Priestess Pythia < wrote:


The post I made about 'common sense,' I certainly wasn't trying to discourage anyone from seeking proper medical care. Using common sense includes much, much more than just medical care.

I nearly died in childbirth with my daughter. If I hadn't been in a hosptital, both of us would have died. There are many times you can't see something coming, like complications, especially when having a baby. There are all kinds of complications that can occur suddenly and unexpectedly. She was a large baby and her shoulders got stuck and they had to push her back in and turn her. I had no anesthesia [by choice and it was too late when I was pushing her out] and I know the worst pain and from this experience, I learned respect for pain for others.

After she came out, blood was actually spraying out of me like a hose, and one of the nurses right away put an IV into me as I was hemmoraging badly.
There are other incidents I can note where medical personel including good veteranarians saved lives and I am grateful.

Using common sense is not about being paranoid. This statement is for everyone here. My post was only concerning revealing that you are a Spiritual Satanist in some way, as this can be dangerous, as we are often vehemently discriminated againt. With medical care, it is important to just be like the average person and not attract any unnecessary attention to yourself or loved ones. Ask questions about anything that might concern you about the care, such as why the Dr. is performing this or with administrating drugs, what is it for and why is he/she giving this specific drug to you or the loved one. It is also the law as far as I know that they have to give you information or a print out concerning any side effects of any drugs, what they are used for, and so forth.

As for silver nitrate solution, PKU test and vitamin K, which some of the things they do like this can cause jaundice, you have to approach the staff and sign papers and do this right after the baby is born. Never get openly angry, remain calm and unemotional, but firm and above all, know your rights. People who get emotional and blurt things out can also be in danger in a hospital, as the staff are usually indoctrinated by the system to right away think someone is crazy and then take action. Just be sool, salm and collected. Know your rights and be firm, and know and understand what you are asking for or declining.

You are safer in a hospital, especially when having babies.



High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- [/IMG], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

Hospital bills? If Raven is healthy enough, you might want to concider a midwife. Less chance of the doctors putting that mercury-laden stuff in the baby's eyes and everything else they do. Especially if they see your tattoos, and they may discriminate based on your age difference. I don't like the thought of hospitals and their natal care anyway, strangers telling you when you can and can not see your own baby. You guys will have the opportunity soon to do the moon square, if you read my post on ideal times for the squares. The moon square will help with the pregnancy and labor. Also, Pazuzu is the Demon to summon for women giving birth, fyi

Hail Father Satan!

--- [/IMG], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:

I did the material verson to help our finances for having our new baby.All I am doing is visualizing greenish/gold energy around me and seeing us pay our hospital bills and buy things for the babys room.


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