Darkpagan666 said:
Unfortunately, a mindset such as this can be influenced by planets placed in the 8th house of death, 12th house of suffering, especially when the planets and house cusps are placed in violent degrees such as 16, 17, 22 and so on. Other placements such as Venus in Scorpio or even Virgo in a certain degree can also manifest fetishes that is of an extreme and nasty nature.
You are in need of deep cleaning of your soul from negative and destructive energies, curses, ill will, depravity and thoughtforms. The mantra Visuddhi is used for this along with Ritual.
Look out for Esbaths and Sabbaths, or other dates for deep cleaning in the Zevism 2023 Calendar:
clean working:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57615
Cleaning the soul during Witches Sabbath:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=257348
I don't mean to hijack this thread.
But I'll say something for the A.P.O.P.(Anonymous Private Original Poster) or APOP.
Just because you ingrained this habit and these negative things, which SHOULD be reprogrammed you don't want this stuff manifesting.
Doesn't mean the "Dark side" of your existence is wrong or bad. Humans much like animals have a dark side and you might want to compartmentalize and use this dark side against an oppressor or use it as fuel to clean yourself. Also consider a freeing the soul working. Aside from cleaning.
Anyways to ask my own personal question to you DarkPagan666 or any other person viewing this post.
I'm someone who only recently started re-vibrating into my centerline main chakras 7 main, 3E, both shoulders, and pineal gland. I've dropped it as I get sick and tired of vibrating over time. I burn out, I'm going to consider doing a modified 40-day guide working next year in 2023. In other words instead of starting from square F'ing one, start somewhere where the guide gets a little more intense.
Anyways my question is these past near 5 years. I've kept up with cleaning since at least 2017 but was working with returning curses pt.1/2 since 2018. I don't know what clean is nor feel clean nor nothing. I'm not a spiritual person nor a feeling of anything. Sometimes I think JoS is fake but it's okay I prefer this place for the political but I understand we have the spiritual as well. Some people are meant to be physicalist and some people are meant for spiritual glory and some have both.
Excuse my despondent or disrespectful thoughts. I know training to elevate spiritual isn't impossibility nor extraordinary hard but people such as myself do have great difficulty with trance and controlling the mind for void/mindfulness. Yes meditation but meditation isn't part of our civilization en mass rather localized over certain areas. Societies don't teach and ingrain this stuff since birth like I'm sure the Empire of Orion does.
Anyways my questions are.
[1.]If I spend some time cleaning my soul. Does the fact I don't elevate my soul mean the visual and factor component of cleaning isn't working to a higher degree?
What I mean is if I don't enhance my soul and elevate it. Does it limit what can and can't be removed? Are negative energies attached to what level you are?(working on the soul or elevating the visual 3E/Pineal)
[2.]If I clean and and remove stuff. What exactly are the factors of being clean or cleaner? How would I know I'm cleaning?
[3.]As with question one. Does the fact I can't enter a trance whereby I feel the trance and it's strongly affecting me. Does
that limit my cleaning?
[4.]If I spend a solid period of time cleaning. Does that mess with spirituality? For example say I open a chakra or open myself up. Does the fact I'm cleaner/clean mean the negatives I've removed are so far gone I go through it swimmingly and negativity doesn't manifest?
In other words at what point is there such a thing as overcleaning and the cleanliness is so clean only the negativity from the outside Universe is affecting me thus my cleaning went from deep cleaning to basic maintenance of cleaning/AoP. Can I overclean? is there a point I have to dive down into vibrating into chakras and elevate the soul through direct stimulation of the working of the metaphysical component.
[5.]Finally in Lydia's message she uses a basketball sized white-gold energy ball like one of the forum members signature that shows an excellent white-gold picture. My question is isn't that just using your mind and imagining stuff coming out? I can visualize all day and spend my time seeing the basketball drain out negativity from my chakra/soul. Especially if I use vibration to clean. Isn't it just thoughts and thinking i.e. pretending to do it. Or is there a genuine action occurring whereby the negativity is coming out?
I guess my only other concern is simply #4. Is there such a thing as overcleaning and if I overclean does the cleaning only clean up to that level. Do I need to elevate myself to clean further?
I know HP.Cobra and another member mentioned Clean/Protected, Unempowered Soul >>>>> Dirty/Unprotected, Empowered Soul plus Cleaning/Protecting is a form of empowerment and elevates the soul further. I guess that is it if I'm overdoing the cleaning. Or is there no such thing as overdoing?
In other words if I become a Hermetic seal before empowering my soul. Does the empowerment phase go smoother till the chakra is open and operating normally.
BTW one more question.
1. If I empower a chakra and it opens up to normal operations. Is that the entire point of chakra work? To simply have the chakra activated, open, and empowered so that it normally operates on it's own? Does mantra on chakras become useless to open further but there are other mantras that empower further and elevate. In other words is chakra mantra work simply to activate and open? In other words I'm awakening the chakra to operate as a conscious structure of my soul.
