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Monetization of forum posts

Mastermind

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Here's an idea to cut down on the amount of useless posts: make people pay for posting, even more for creating threads.

Every forum post should cost credits, which can be bought through donations or earned by making quality posts.
IMO it should be $5 for creating a thread and $1 for a reply but this is up to debate.

Members should be able to thank other members by giving them credits. There could be a thank you button below every post that gives them one or more credits.
Credits can then be used to make more posts, donated to the community or used to buy something in the future. Or even just to show off.
This would greatly cut down on the amount of useless information.
People would be making quality posts in the hopes of receiving credits.
It would give us a sense of what is appreciated and what isn't. What is needed and what isn't. This helps us optimize how our time is spent.
It would also bolster competition and create role models.

I know what's on your minds. But what about the poor people? This is unfair, money is evil and bla bla bla.
I think that once you experience the beauty of such a system it would change your perspective on money.

We can start with just one section, see how it goes and if it goes well expand it to more sections.
At the end all sections but one (per language) will require credits to post.


I want that, for each negative point you come up with, you come up with one positive as well.
Discuss.
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Here's an idea to cut down on the amount of useless posts: make people pay for posting, even more for creating threads.

Every forum post should cost credits, which can be bought through donations or earned by making quality posts.
IMO it should be $5 for creating a thread and $1 for a reply but this is up to debate.

Members should be able to thank other members by giving them credits. There could be a thank you button below every post that gives them one or more credits.
Credits can then be used to make more posts, donated to the community or used to buy something in the future. Or even just to show off.
This would greatly cut down on the amount of useless information.
People would be making quality posts in the hopes of receiving credits.
It would give us a sense of what is appreciated and what isn't. What is needed and what isn't. This helps us optimize how our time is spent.
It would also bolster competition and create role models.

I know what's on your minds. But what about the poor people? This is unfair, money is evil and bla bla bla.
I think that once you experience the beauty of such a system it would change your perspective on money.

We can start with just one section, see how it goes and if it goes well expand it to more sections.
At the end all sections but one (per language) will require credits to post.


I want that, for each negative point you come up with, you come up with one positive as well.
Discuss.

It seems a very hostile idea and completely out of alignment with this spiritual path. A credit-based / score system is exactly the type of thing the enemy want to implement in physical reality. They would laugh at us for implementing this, not to mention it's probably unrealistic and unfeasible given the amount of work required to modify the source code of the forums. There's much better ways to spend our time - like developing and advancing our actual souls, not a forum score.

On the flip-side, it would reduce the amount of spam posts, arguments, moderation and create some funding for JoS. Is the former really a good thing though? It would probably only drive away new members and inexperienced people.

There's really not many positives to this, my points are extremely inclined towards this being a very rotten project and it makes me wonder why you would even post this. Either you are being genuine and are out of touch, or you are feeding off the reaction.
 
FancyMancy said:
People have enough money problems as it is, and not only because they can't afford things.
People have money problems because they don't understand money.
The solution is not to shy away from money but to learn it and embrace it.
Monetizing the forum (or parts of it) would be a way to get people's feet wet and make them understand how good it is when applied correctly.

VoiceofEnki said:
Plain and simple this cannot be done, because this is a free forum and the spirit of Spiritual Satanism is that all its information and discussion is to be free as a basic human right to knowledge.

We can keep one section where it's free to post. If someone makes a quality post in the free section, members will give credit to the poor person, allowing them to express themselves in more expensive sections. Didn't you read my entire post or did you just read the title?

VoiceofEnki said:
This capitalistic idea would completely ruin the spirit of communication and free learning, and would on the spot destroy the principals of Spiritual Satanism if they are implemented in this manner.

It wouldn't. Communication and learning would be greatly improved.
 
gnome said:
A credit-based / score system is exactly the type of thing the enemy want to implement in physical reality.

The enemy wants to implement a system where you start with a good score and it goes down if others give you bad reviews (which costs nothing for them to do so). If one falls below a certain level, they are ostracized from society. It's a punishment system.

In the system which I advocate for, everyone starts at zero and can only go up. It's a reward system. Just like money is (or should be). You do something good for someone else, you are rewarded. You don't do anything good, you are neither rewarded nor punished.

Imagine a future where if you smile or say something nice, you get a monetary reward. Most people would be smiling and saying nice things most of the time.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Making posts would be done with intent to make money or as you'd call it, "credits" through writing things which lesser people would give appreciation for, and many would refuse to post altogether or go elsewhere to post since why would anyone need or want to spend money to speak?

To correct a spelling mistake, I quoted myself here, correction in bold in the quote.

Previously it was written "fine", instead of done, which distorted the meaning of the sentence unfortunately.
 
The most annoying phrase of all is "giving back to society."

Lets say that I say something nice to a million people and it makes them happy. That million people then gives me $1 each. I made $1 million in 5 seconds.

Then some moron says to me "that's a lot of revenue. Are you going to give some of it back to society?"
What the fuck do you mean "give back" ? Have I stolen anything from anyone? No. Fuck you.
 
Mastermind said:
VoiceofEnki said:

No wonder that people have money problems.

Your idea would ruin this forum for a bunch of people who may want to come here by discouraging them from doing so as well as make this place like just about everywhere else where more and more stuff your having to pay for to see online that used to be free.
 
What do you care about? Who cares about random, useless people who don't give a shit about anyone. Perfect and permanent strangers, it's like talking to random people on the street and they say: who the fuck knows you and who the fuck wants to know you. There is no friendship here, so don't waste your time with that.

People here only respect those who have a lot to offer, that is the Gods and 3-4 advanced people here. The others count for nothing and have no value. They only care about authority.

And they are so arrogant that they demand as much value as possible, for free, that is, for nothing. There is nothing more wrong. This is just the current bloody situation. People give money for useless things like the bible, while Gods knowledge that has great value is free, it is unbelievable.
 
Donate to JoS instead. Perhaps it can lead to moderators getting payed for what they do. Must be a hazzle to go through all the crazy shit people post here, myself included sometimes :). But it should be open and free for reasons already explained here.
 
FancyMancy said:
I can't see high and powerful Beings having to use gold/silver/copper money.

Are Gods exchanging products and services between each other?
I doubt that. They probably don't have a monetary system. What for?

So what needs do the Gods have? I think they have a need for recognition. Wouldn't it be wise to publicly thank a God/Satan/Demon whenever we receive help from them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Mastermind said:
FancyMancy said:
I can't see high and powerful Beings having to use gold/silver/copper money.

Are Gods exchanging products and services between each other?
I doubt that. They probably don't have a monetary system. What for?

So what needs do the Gods have? I think they have a need for recognition. Wouldn't it be wise to publicly thank a God/Satan/Demon whenever we receive help from them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.
The Gods use energy as currency. Now read a physics book and it will say that "energy is the ability to do work."

Hence the two recommended ways of thanking the Gods are giving energy or doing work.
https://templeofzeus.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Thanksgiving.html said:
Practical work is what the Powers of Hell need from us, not just verbal gibberish- talking the talk, but doing little or nothing to actually show appreciation and thanks. Talk is cheap, whether it is used in ritual or otherwise. SHOW your appreciation by devoting your time and energy when and where you can to destroy the enemy and to advance Satanism.

Lastly- one of the most important things you can give the Powers of Hell is your energy. If you have energy to spare, ask for Satan to send a Demon/ess to take the energy and to deliver it where the Powers of Hell need it.
 
Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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Can the Gods interact with matter?
In physics, energy is expressed in Joules or Watt-seconds or Watt-hours, where 1 Joule can do 1 Watt for 1 second.
Is that the same energy that we are talking about?
 
Mastermind said:
Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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Can the Gods interact with matter?
In physics, energy is expressed in Joules or Watt-seconds or Watt-hours, where 1 Joule can do 1 Watt for 1 second.
Is that the same energy that we are talking about?
Yes. The Gods have physical bodies, so they can interact with physical matter simply by touching it like anyone can. The Gods can also use energy at a distance to interact with physical matter (telekinesis). Usually it's in the form of small actions to communicate while using as little energy as possible, like moving a candle flame to answer questions.

Energy is energy. Consider the similarity between a magick spell and physical work. To do physical work, you must acquire energy from your environment (solar, gas, hydro, etc), then you must convert that energy into a specific form and direct it in a certain way to cause the desired outcome, like running electricity through wire to make a motor spin, then using gears and belts to direct that energy to wheels to make a car move. Now, in a magick spell, first you raise your energies, which means you acquire it from the environment (often the Sun or the Earth). Then you use affirmations to make that energy do what you want and you direct it to a specific place to do that. For example, in the Final Ritual, you raise energy first, then you program that energy with the reverse hebrew letters, and you direct it to the astral presence of the letters with the affirmations at the end (and program it to destroy them). The energy then does work to destroy them, similar to destructive interference, in the case of the Rituals.

Based on Tesla's research, spiritual energy is a form of high-frequency electromagnetism. There are also many higher dimensions than just the 3 dimensions average people are aware of, and these dimensions can contain energy. It is possible to measure spiritual energy and convert to Joules. However, such a measurement may not be that useful, because directing spiritual energy can be very lossy. It's often more a question of timing it right with the planets and having a strong willpower, than just having a huge amount of energy. It's similar to thermal energy, in that you can never quite get 100% efficiency, and the way you use it mechanically matters a lot.

In the future, probably after the war is over, the exact physics of spiritual energy will be made known to humans, and yes, it will be possible to calculate all of this.
 
Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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It'd be interesting to know how much energy we are talking about.
If the Gods can perform fusion or fission of matter then they have access to almost unlimited energy.
 
Energy comes in many forms. For example HP.Cobra responded "Yes, the Gods eat". He goes on to say they can absorb energy and transform it to sustain their bodies. But it requires so much energy it's a waste of time maybe in emergencies they do it, when unable to eat or train themselves not to eat.

But it's MUCH easier to cook a meal and eat up all the macro/micro/Calories. Again energy and work being used to make energy and work.

Also at Mastermind yeah nuclear technology is probably known and researched by the Gods. But they rely more on clean energies like Free or Freer energies. Free energy a Tesla Vacuum tube box(Tesla's Pierce car driving upwards of 96MPH) or a Mercury engine. Freer would be the tower facility it sits on a superconducting section of the Earth. Other freer could be Ionic-technologies. It uses the Ionosphere to generate energies it's use of electromagnetic energies to derive power.

Tesla and some of these free/freer energy manufacturers were building these things with some really simplistic constructs. It seems the Gods who helped Tesla really dumbed down the information to such basic levels any society of reasonable industry can construct it. It's far simpler to build free-freer technologies than our current complex energy states. Remember Tesla didn't have a computer or measurement devices of any high advancement just simple gauges and switches and whatnot.
 
Mastermind said:
FancyMancy said:
I can't see high and powerful Beings having to use gold/silver/copper money.

Me neither but I can see them using Monero or some other anonymous crypto.
We have cryptocurrencies here now in the year 2022, and have done for a decade or so, I think? I think that is rather primitive a form of currency for advanced beings. That's just my opinion. They may have cryptocurrency, but why? All of the electricity required to mine coins, the cooling and the processing, etc.? They can just raise Energies as They need, and not cause a fraction or more of global warming on Their Planets.

Mastermind said:
FancyMancy said:
I can't see high and powerful Beings having to use gold/silver/copper money.

Are Gods exchanging products and services between each other?
I doubt that. They probably don't have a monetary system. What for?

So what needs do the Gods have? I think they have a need for recognition. Wouldn't it be wise to publicly thank a God/Satan/Demon whenever we receive help from them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.
I dont know the actual answer, but surely yes. You're into this, I'm into that, he's into something else, she's into something else else. Some like botany and herbs; a God might go to His Goddess friend and ask Her to make a 'potion' (if you will). Not that He couldn't make one Himself; He likes His Goddess friend, and enjoys Her craftsmanship. She might make him some tea and have a chin-wag about how lovely the weather has (always) been lately!

This is just an idea. I am not saying this happens, but the Gods and Goddesses are real people with lives, moving about, doing things. They are not just sat still in one position, drawing Energy into them so that They don't die; They live.
 

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