On the subject of the Russian Forum

[Black Magic]

Hello everyone. Those of you who have come here from the Post-Soviet Union countries would notice that the Russian forum is dying. And given that most people in the post-Soviet world don’t understand English, I’d like to start working on translating our content into Russian. I should also highlight one important detail - the fact is that, as a Russian, I came here through JOS because i had interest in Satanism not in Hellenistic paganism, and from satanism i grow up till TOZ lvl, satanism was only beginning of my journey.
Those who are currently on a spiritual path for example in Russia might be interested in Satanism, but not in Zevism first. In my experience, people in that country are more interested in Slavic paganism than in Greek paganism, they would feel more at home in the Temple of Perun for example than in the Temple of Zeus. let my suggestion not confuse anyone, since I am proposing to change only the name but not the very essence of our teachings, especially considering that Perun and Zeus are one and the same God. The logic is that, figuratively speaking, a Russian folks will not understand why they should be interested in the Hellenistic filter rather than the Old Slavic one, which is more closer to them. I’m not insisting that we should change the name of the Russian forum to “Temple of Perun,” but in my opinion that would attract more interested people who in one way or another will serve the same God. And I’m bringing this up because I’ve started noticing that many people around me have begun returning to their roots but those people have no clue where should they're start. and there are people in my circle who have asked me directly about spirituality and paganism, about practices they might want to explore for themselves

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

ΤοΖ is not really "Hellenistic Paganism". The ToZ should be understood as "WHAT WORKS, WHAT IS TRUE" from all the Ancient World. It's the core distillation of all the Ancient cultures of the Gods in unity and a progressive, never seen before historically, manifestation.

It is a CORE fusion of all of the following:

1. Sanskrit Vedic core religion
2. Ancient Egyptian core spirituality
3. Hellenism in philosophy, optics and knowledge
4. All Ancient religions combined at their functional core.
5. Gods promoted and manifest from all the Cultures in their CORE powers and presence.

We will address and improve all the connections with all the subsequent divine translations of all our people from all Nations, after we finish our current update.

 

[Nikólaos666]

ToZ is ToZ, nothing is equal to us.

 

[Black Magic]

ΤοΖ is not really "Hellenistic Paganism". The ToZ should be understood as "WHAT WORKS, WHAT IS TRUE" from all the Ancient World. It's the core distillation of all the Ancient cultures of the Gods in unity and a progressive, never seen before historically, manifestation.

It is a CORE fusion of all of the following:

1. Sanskrit Vedic core religion
2. Ancient Egyptian core spirituality
3. Hellenism in philosophy, optics and knowledge
4. All Ancient religions combined at their functional core.
5. Gods promoted and manifest from all the Cultures in their CORE powers and presence.

We will address and improve all the connections with all the subsequent divine translations of all our people from all Nations, after we finish our current update.

Greetings, High Priest, I didn’t mean to say that TOZ is't only about hellenic paganism, but I did mean that the very name “Temple of Zeus” and our aesthetic hint at it, my suggestion wasn't so much about the essence of who we are, but more about marketing, let me put it this way

 

[Black Magic]

Greetings, High Priest, I didn’t mean to say that TOZ is't only about hellenic paganism, but I did mean that the very name “Temple of Zeus” and our aesthetic hint at it, my suggestion wasn't so much about the essence of who we are, but more about marketing, let me put it this way

The uniqueness of the Russian world lies in the fact that its adherents prefer not abstract pan-paganism, but something of their own, something familiar. For example, if a Russian pagan were to witness a ritual dedicated to Enki or the deities of Ancient Egypt, I would venture to say that he would not feel that connection or sense of kinship that might satisfy him. And personally, I observe the same problem in myself, since I cannot understand all gods and various pantheons, though I do not rule out that this may be exclusively my own problem. Another problem with Slavic pagans is that they are fixated on their origins; in other words, they believe that by blood they must worship their native Slavic gods, who are ours gods as well

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

The uniqueness of the Russian world lies in the fact that its adherents prefer not abstract pan-paganism, but something of their own, something familiar. For example, if a Russian pagan were to witness a ritual dedicated to Enki or the deities of Ancient Egypt, I would venture to say that he would not feel that connection or sense of kinship that might satisfy him. And personally, I observe the same problem in myself, since I cannot understand all gods and various pantheons, though I do not rule out that this may be exclusively my own problem. Another problem with Slavic pagans is that they are fixated on their origins; in other words, they believe that by blood they must worship their native Slavic gods, who are ours gods as well

There will be more devling into the Slavic origins. Subsequent updates will highlight this. Do not worry, we are nowhere near done.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Greetings, High Priest, I didn’t mean to say that TOZ is't only about hellenic paganism, but I did mean that the very name “Temple of Zeus” and our aesthetic hint at it, my suggestion wasn't so much about the essence of who we are, but more about marketing, let me put it this way

There is no stronger and most human-applicable visual approach, than the Ancient Gods as they were represented in the Ancient Hellenic system. This is because they show them as deified Humans. There is also no more imposing, powerful and eloquent approach in the visuals of this.

Even the enemy, understood this, froze by it's power and used it for the Vatican and the their own cults; as there was nothing higher in the history of mankind when it came from Aesthetics.

The Romans upon contact with the Greeks left their wooden representations and they adapted instantly to this also. Universal understanding, acceptance of forms has happened immediately when people saw this.

This is why these aesthetics survived and they never perished. They were actually among the best humanity has ever known, and it knows them in this day. It will persist eternally, because it puts MAN at the center.

It's a literal visual representation of Mankind in it's attempt and striving to become Gods; not goats, animals and related, but the image of HUMANITY as it tries to grow to the Gods and bonded with them, in material artistic approach.

 

[Unmask]

I am ukrainian and I know Zeus, i also know many russian than use Zeus than Perun.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

I am ukrainian and I know Zeus, i also know many russian than use Zeus than Perun.

What Name is used is one thing; you can use any honestly when you Communicate with Our Gods.

We don't obsess over this; you can refer to Perun or Zeus. The understanding is that no matter which is used, you are literally tapping the same source. All of us knew this before as well; now it's all explained how it works and what is the case.

ZEV is explained to carry cosmological significance, this draws power from the Source of Source itself direct. As thus it's very normal people will feel the shock of the power of the Gods when they refer to Him as Zeus. It's exceptionally direct. ZEV or ZEUS is a Theonym and it doesn't matter where you are from; it will connect instantly.

The ToZ exists to keep everyone connected to the Source, our Great Gods.

 

[Black Magic]

There is no stronger and most human-applicable visual approach, than the Ancient Gods as they were represented in the Ancient Hellenic system. This is because they show them as deified Humans. There is also no more imposing, powerful and eloquent approach in the visuals of this.

Even the enemy, understood this, froze by it's power and used it for the Vatican and the their own cults; as there was nothing higher in the history of mankind when it came from Aesthetics.

The Romans upon contact with the Greeks left their wooden representations and they adapted instantly to this also. Universal understanding, acceptance of forms has happened immediately when people saw this.

This is why these aesthetics survived and they never perished. They were actually among the best humanity has ever known, and it knows them in this day. It will persist eternally, because it puts MAN at the center.

It's a literal visual representation of Mankind in it's attempt and striving to become Gods; not goats, animals and related, but the image of HUMANITY as it tries to grow to the Gods and bonded with them, in material artistic approach.

Fair point, but it is worth adding that Slavic pagans always looked to the forces of nature at the first place. Thus, they never strive to create realistic depictions of gods, but only anthropomorphic idols that symbolically conveyed their attributes. In other words, the difference between the Slavs and the Greco-Romans is that they presented aesthetics differently, but their divine essence remained the same. Slavs understanding of spirituality operates on a different level, they may perceive Greco-Roman aesthetics as excessive, even if it is epic in nature. I believe this is precisely why the gods were imagined differently by different people and culture, to the extent that these peoples were able to perceive them in the best possible way. Everyone has their own aesthetic, but the essence remains the same, for me, aesthetics is not merely a tool for beauty, but a key to understanding certain deities as well

 

[Black Magic]

I am ukrainian and I know Zeus, i also know many russian than use Zeus than Perun.

Jelous... everytime when i say Zeus instead of Perun folks said that im dealing with foreign gods

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Jelous... everytime when i say Zeus instead of Perun folks said that im dealing with foreign gods

Give them the Page of Zeus and they will understand. What we know, is Initiatory knowledge. It's what all Ancient High Priesthood knew in the past.

It was not known to laymen and regular folk who are stuck in visuals; it was known only by the Initiates.

Now it can be known by everyone.

 

[Unmask]

What Name is used is one thing; you can use any honestly when you Communicate with Our Gods.

We don't obsess over this; you can refer to Perun or Zeus. The understanding is that no matter which is used, you are literally tapping the same source. All of us knew this before as well; now it's all explained how it works and what is the case.

ZEV is explained to carry cosmological significance, this draws power from the Source of Source itself direct. As thus it's very normal people will feel the shock of the power of the Gods when they refer to Him as Zeus. It's exceptionally direct. ZEV or ZEUS is a Theonym and it doesn't matter where you are from; it will connect instantly.

The ToZ exists to keep everyone connected to the Source, our Great Gods.

You are right High Priest ,
i understand your words ,
Thank you