Masculine women and feminine men

[Soul Wings]

Love, romance, sincerity, authenticity, intimacy, tenderness, emotional depth, kindness, gentleness, benevolence and adoration are all masculine traits. All men inherently possess these characteristics, and all women inherently do not possess these characteristics. There are very few women on Earth capable of exhibiting any of the above described characteristics.

Men are the romantic sex, women are the cold, pragmatic, calculating sex. Women are not inherently capable of benevolence, and nurturing does not come naturally to women. Men are extremely nurturing by nature. Go outside and look at any man you see, all the big rough burly men that you see are giant teddy bears who have to endure the torment of life and pretend that they don't want to just give a woman love and affection with abandon. Any man that claims otherwise is lying, and if they're not lying, then they're not human.

Interesting point. As a woman I wouldn't disagree fully actually. I thought I was the minority in regards to the above, but perhaps not. Well read academics like Jordan Peterson tend to push that women are maternal, and then I learnt he/his family has a religious bias just like Darwin, unfortunately. U hav uterus nd push ouT babeez so u must luv it no excepshunz don't queschun my logic!!

I really feel like this idea was spoon fed to us by christianity, just like monogamy. That's why I find it annoying that Satanism pushes these as virtues too. You can create life in so many ways. If you want children, have them, and if you don't - don't. That's obviously pragmatic and not reality for most people - but I believe that's the way it should truly be in a Satanic society.
We are about free will, speech, choice etc but we should force people to have children? If you don't have children, then you have nothing to do with the divine feminine/masculine? You do not have the ability to be mature, as if having children is the final deciding factor on that? You are big baby uncaring Satanist, *ptoo* diSgusTinG!
This just makes no sense. I believe the birth rate wouldn't be declining and people would choose to have children anyway under a Satanic society, because it would be supported, easy and encouraged. I believe this is a core issue, and has nothing to do with gender wars.
Anyways, leave me, my business and my uterus alone and we have no problems. Call me divorcable and infertile all you want, it's just hilarious to me. Because it's mine - yes, mine in particular - fault that humanity's birth rate is declining...

In most cases, most men I've dated, unfortunately for me, wanted children. I believe you will find stats out there that will support this statement as well. I attempted to break up with my current boyfriend because I thought he wanted children too (that was a misunderstanding). This is an issue I will constantly be revisiting, because of your original point.

However, would you be so kind as to entertain my curiosity - can you list what you believe women inherently have, if not those particular characteristics?

I don't know if this is fully to do with "nature" of sexes, in my opinion, I think a lot of this has to do with societal influence. If we want children, we have less than 22 years to pick a partner good enough [whatever that standard may be and this varies GREATLY] to breed with. Unless you want to carry a high risk pregnancy. To be "cold, pragmatic and calculating" here would most likely be an understatement. It's not hard to create children but [in my opinion] it is hard to find worthy partners in such a short amount of time.
And then there's the fact that most women out there on their singular income will not be able to afford their own house without a partner. So we are still forced to partner up regardless unless we are lucky and land an awesome paying job. I believe if women felt financial security on their own without feeling forced, it is a more stable foundation to build upon and not reliant on fear, desperation and rushing to get the job done. And perhaps as a result, more wanted/planned and happy pregnancies.

 

[General Yeager]

Love, romance, sincerity, authenticity, intimacy, tenderness, emotional depth, kindness, gentleness, benevolence and adoration are all masculine traits. All men inherently possess these characteristics, and all women inherently do not possess these characteristics. There are very few women on Earth capable of exhibiting any of the above described characteristics.

Men are the romantic sex, women are the cold, pragmatic, calculating sex. Women are not inherently capable of benevolence, and nurturing does not come naturally to women. Men are extremely nurturing by nature. Go outside and look at any man you see, all the big rough burly men that you see are giant teddy bears who have to endure the torment of life and pretend that they don't want to just give a woman love and affection with abandon. Any man that claims otherwise is lying, and if they're not lying, then they're not human.

Interesting point. As a woman I wouldn't disagree fully actually. I thought I was the minority in regards to the above, but perhaps not. Well read academics like Jordan Peterson tend to push that women are maternal, and then I learnt he/his family has a religious bias just like Darwin, unfortunately. U hav uterus nd push ouT babeez so u must luv it no excepshunz don't queschun my logic!!

I really feel like this idea was spoon fed to us by christianity, just like monogamy. That's why I find it annoying that Satanism pushes these as virtues too. You can create life in so many ways. If you want children, have them, and if you don't - don't. That's obviously pragmatic and not reality for most people - but I believe that's the way it should truly be in a Satanic society.
We are about free will, speech, choice etc but we should force people to have children? If you don't have children, then you have nothing to do with the divine feminine/masculine? You do not have the ability to be mature, as if having children is the final deciding factor on that? You are big baby uncaring Satanist, *ptoo* diSgusTinG!
This just makes no sense. I believe the birth rate wouldn't be declining and people would choose to have children anyway under a Satanic society, because it would be supported, easy and encouraged. I believe this is a core issue, and has nothing to do with gender wars.
Anyways, leave me, my business and my uterus alone and we have no problems. Call me divorcable and infertile all you want, it's just hilarious to me. Because it's mine - yes, mine in particular - fault that humanity's birth rate is declining...

In most cases, most men I've dated, unfortunately for me, wanted children. I believe you will find stats out there that will support this statement as well. I attempted to break up with my current boyfriend because I thought he wanted children too (that was a misunderstanding). This is an issue I will constantly be revisiting, because of your original point.

However, would you be so kind as to entertain my curiosity - can you list what you believe women inherently have, if not those particular characteristics?

I don't know if this is fully to do with "nature" of sexes, in my opinion, I think a lot of this has to do with societal influence. If we want children, we have less than 22 years to pick a partner good enough [whatever that standard may be and this varies GREATLY] to breed with. Unless you want to carry a high risk pregnancy. To be "cold, pragmatic and calculating" here would most likely be an understatement. It's not hard to create children but [in my opinion] it is hard to find worthy partners in such a short amount of time.
And then there's the fact that most women out there on their singular income will not be able to afford their own house without a partner. So we are still forced to partner up regardless unless we are lucky and land an awesome paying job. I believe if women felt financial security on their own without feeling forced, it is a more stable foundation to build upon and not reliant on fear, desperation and rushing to get the job done. And perhaps as a result, more wanted/planned and happy pregnancies.

What is actually funny and hilarious is that the question about what do you do with the Migrants at the moment who are ethnically displacing you if you do not have babies and "It is your Choice" is never explained.

Lets grant this hypthetical scenario that okay ,everyone should have free choice. This free choice leads the majority of Whites to not being able to reproduce and have below replacement level Birthrates.

The counter argument is always that "Quality ,not Quantity" and the idea is that every single child must be cared for and sent to a good school etc,and the only way that this is going to happen is when the Entirety of the United States changes somehow and everyone gets a well paying Job.

However this argument is instantly discarded by looking at the Nordic Countries who because of their Oil Wealth have Socialized Healthcare, pay women to have children and handle various allowances to have children.

And still they are below replacement rate fertility. So the Economic Argument is destroyed. Even extremely comfortable countries whose economies aren't fucked are still below replacement rates.

Hilariously Russia has 70+ percent divorce rate and is also below replacement rate and is looked at as some kind of Traditionalist Heaven by the Right Wing.

Every single country that has allowed freedom to flourish within their societies has gone under. The developed Asian and Whites being the Central Ones.

So the Current Problems facing the Whites are
1) Migrants are currently ethnically replacing the Whites. Actually Gen Alpha is already majority Non White with Millions coming over the Border everyday. In some Decades even if the Migrant Invasion is stopped, the Whites will be a Minority with their current Birth Rates. Unless if you remove the one Non Whites who are already Citizens.

2) Even if all the Migrants were kicked out with the Current Societal structure the White Countries are still below replacement rate and will be like Japan or the Nordic Countries.

There is no scenario where "Freedom" is conducive to a Pro White Society.

The Migrants somehow manage to take care of 4 children while making a minimum wage job and they are called Savages while the Intelligent Ones who want to wait are the ones getting replaced.

This situation has been happening since the 1960's with no end of a political change in sight.

The only way to tip the scales is if the Whites have an awakening and start reproducing with a religious zeal to preserve the race with atleast 4 to 5 babies each. Only then will they have a chance of averting the population demise.

The Foundational Objective for every single JOS member should be to fulfill this duty. Not Liberal Platitudes of Freedom and Choice which has lead to this problem in the first place.

Work with the current situation in mind. When things change, you adapt. Simple as that.

Im not going to argue this point anymore. This argument has happened many a times with no answer in sight.

It was just something on my mind. If you're someone who is reading this and you see the problem ,you should try everything you can to do your part and don't listen to anyone else.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I will be on the war path and will cut down all that gets in my way without remorse until I have secured a future where all White Men of good character will be able to have a woman that they can love.

But you can't do that if you keep saying lies about women. Most women are inherently nurturing and enjoy romance etc. Some aren't, that can easily be seen in natal charts, just like how not all men are the same.

Perhaps the women you meet put on an act to cover their insecurities, or perhaps they have been brainwashed by social media. This does not mean they are inherently not romantic or nurturing.

I'd say most people, both genders, are inherently loving and nurturing, because people are social creatures who do best by pairing up with another. Love and emotional support brings out the best in everyone.

The Gods encourage us to work together, not apart. This is how we were created.

 

[NinRick]

I will be on the war path and will cut down all that gets in my way without remorse until I have secured a future where all White Men of good character will be able to have a woman that they can love.

sounds like a lie to me, where you try to dind excuses. A warrior has no hangups with women, and is able to get many he desires.

 

[xlnt]

Love, romance, sincerity, authenticity, intimacy, tenderness, emotional depth, kindness, gentleness, benevolence and adoration are all masculine traits. All men inherently possess these characteristics, and all women inherently do not possess these characteristics.

Neither love or romance is mentioned in my post. Love is an emotion and not a trait, which both men and women are capable or experiencing. How and in what way is individual and not depending on gender, just like personal traits in general. I don't really see how women could not feel love or want intimacy. My experience tells me different.

Further on; feminin nature is not specifically about love or tenderness, but more specifically about being in touch with the soul and the inner emotions regardless of which emotions.
What you describe sounds more like how feminism programs women to become, and not how women actually are inherently.

The question I had though was if men who hates women generally speaking often are feminine themselves (like the example with Elliot Rogers), just like women who hates men often may be masculine themselves.

Another thing I've wondered about, is if the notion of men and women being "from different planets" actually might be quite illusionary.
Much of this might have to do with feminism and women not wanting to open up themselves that easily to a man they do not yet know (having a wall/shield that does not come down that easily, which feminism also makes 10 times stronger).

But after she puts her guard down to a certain man, this notion can change from "different planet" to same planet quite quickly, in my experience anyway.

 

[xlnt]

On the subject of masculinity; I once read that there is a saying within Taoism, which I think is a key aspect of what makes up an ideal man: "Yang exists on the outside in order to protect yin".

Not only should a man strive to protect women/his woman, but as a human of any gender one should also protect ones inner self with thinking positively and counter negative thoughts using the thought-power of Yang.

One sad thing about feminism though; is that it programs women to protect themselves and never let any man do that for them, or lead them/dominate them in any way at all, since that is seen a something of unequality and therefore wrong.
Even having heterosex is seen by some feminists as wrong, since the man has the dominant role in it (naturally).

Many feminists strongly push the notion that sex is a social construct (man and woman does not really exist) in order to erase what is natural. Partly so since they always look upon dominance/being led by a man as something degrading and insulting.
This is a sad thing, since the good man who really wants to protect and love a woman in this sense becomes disallowed from acting out his natural role as a man.

Since feminism generally promotes the idea that men are creeps it also makes it more difficult for men to befriend women. To be able to have female friends is key for any man to understand women generally, and likewise for women to understand men, thus also erasing any judgemental thoughts about the opposite gender. Not to be underestimated.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

The question I had though was if men who hates women generally speaking often are feminine themselves (like the example with Elliot Rogers), just like women who hates men often may be masculine themselves.

There are masculine women who have male friends, and feminine men who have female friends.

But there definitely are masculine women who hate men, perhaps because they see men as a threat to their own masculinity? And the same for feminine men who hate women. It's almost like they themselves want to be the gender, so they project hate to the whole gender out of jealousy.

As for friends, yes it's important to have friends of the opposite gender. Many of the greatest minds in history had friends of the opposite gender. It's not always about sex as people these days try to make it out to be.

 

[Soul Wings]

I am not saying these aren't issues. With my Satanic principles personally, I just think expecting/forcing people to have 4-5 children each without poverty [or protest for that matter] is unrealistic. I would argue managing 4-5 children among full time work would cause neglect to the children. In fact, I think this could make the birth rate issue worse. You can look to Romania and "Decree 770" to see what horrors will happen there - it caused major suffering, and in the end, it didn't solve the issue.

 

[Soul Wings]

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As for friends, yes it's important to have friends of the opposite gender. Many of the greatest minds in history had friends of the opposite gender. It's not always about sex as people these days try to make it out to be.

How do you find friends that are male that don't secretly like you, that aren't gay or something? Even having a girlfriend or getting married doesn't mean shit these days.
A few women I know has had some guy friend profess their love after X years thinking they are just friends. It's just so off putting that I'd even consider doing workings against this shit just to have male friendship again. The last genuine male friendship [aside from my partner] I feel I had was when I was a kid :/

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

For Example, Andrew Anglin who is 5'3 has never had a long term partner because Women reject him incessantly because of his height. Instead of accepting reality he made an entire Ideology of Hate against women which has poisoned the Reactionary Right.

All of this Women Hate just comes from never being able to find a suitable partner and not looking yourself at the mirror.

There are men that short who have life-long wives, so there goes that theory. Men tell men that women care that much about height, but most women don't. They might prefer if a man is taller, but it's not a non-negotiable standard.

A lot of problems are from expecting validation from every single man/woman they meet. This is unrealistic.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

Lydia" post_id=474909 time=1701239896 user_id=57]
As for friends, yes it's important to have friends of the opposite gender. Many of the greatest minds in history had friends of the opposite gender. It's not always about sex as people these days try to make it out to be.

How do you find friends that are male that don't secretly like you, that aren't gay or something? Even having a girlfriend or getting married doesn't mean shit these days.
A few women I know has had some guy friend profess their love after X years thinking they are just friends. It's just so off putting that I'd even consider doing workings against this shit just to have male friendship again. The last genuine male friendship [aside from my partner] I feel I had was when I was a kid :/

That does happen, or they try to have sex because of "friends with benefits" culture.

There needs to be boundaries, and not expecting an opposite-gender friends to be the exact same as same-gender friends, or things can get confusing. But other feelings do happen, it's part of life, but the crush hopefully goes away soon enough.

 

[General Yeager]

Lydia" post_id=474932 time=1701260688 user_id=57]

For Example, Andrew Anglin who is 5'3 has never had a long term partner because Women reject him incessantly because of his height. Instead of accepting reality he made an entire Ideology of Hate against women which has poisoned the Reactionary Right.

All of this Women Hate just comes from never being able to find a suitable partner and not looking yourself at the mirror.

There are men that short who have life-long wives, so there goes that theory. Men tell men that women care that much about height, but most women don't. They might prefer if a man is taller, but it's not a non-negotiable standard.

A lot of problems are from expecting validation from every single man/woman they meet. This is unrealistic.

Well obviously he hasn't taken his ego out of the equation and approached the amount of women he needs because any man will find a woman when he approaches enough women. Im talking about the Root Cause of the issue. I dont really care why these people have barren love lives and honestly could care less.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Lydia" post_id=474932 time=1701260688 user_id=57]

For Example, Andrew Anglin who is 5'3 has never had a long term partner because Women reject him incessantly because of his height. Instead of accepting reality he made an entire Ideology of Hate against women which has poisoned the Reactionary Right.

All of this Women Hate just comes from never being able to find a suitable partner and not looking yourself at the mirror.

There are men that short who have life-long wives, so there goes that theory. Men tell men that women care that much about height, but most women don't. They might prefer if a man is taller, but it's not a non-negotiable standard.

A lot of problems are from expecting validation from every single man/woman they meet. This is unrealistic.

They really don't. Some may but it's not emphasized as most think. I've crushed on guys before who were shorter and in one case of someone I liked some years ago I found out he was shorter when I stood next to him and it increased his cuteness factor to me even :lol:

 

[Wotanwarrior]

General Yeager

And what do you do if women of your own age already have difficulties to have children, look for a woman 20 years younger than you and who could be your daughter? which I find that aberrant.
And I also think it's bullshit to end up in a relationship with someone you don't love or even an arranged relationship just "because it's my duty to have children" as if you were a xian preacher with that issue.
No one is going to force me to do that, even if they threaten me with go to prison or something similar if I refuse.

 

[General Yeager]

General Yeager

And what do you do if women of your own age already have difficulties to have children, look for a woman 20 years younger than you and who could be your daughter? which I find that aberrant.
And I also think it's bullshit to end up in a relationship with someone you don't love or even an arranged relationship just "because it's my duty to have children" as if you were a xian preacher with that issue.
No one is going to force me to do that, even if they threaten me with go to prison or something similar if I refuse.

I feel for you. You are of an age where the Women cant have children and you don't want to go down your age because of your preference. Perfectly fine and no one's forcing you to do anything. May Satan give peace to you in your heart.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

How do you find friends that are male that don't secretly like you, that aren't gay or something? Even having a girlfriend or getting married doesn't mean shit these days.
A few women I know has had some guy friend profess their love after X years thinking they are just friends. It's just so off putting that I'd even consider doing workings against this shit just to have male friendship again. The last genuine male friendship [aside from my partner] I feel I had was when I was a kid :/

To really explore this subject, a lot needs to be written, I'm only scratching the surface here from what I have seen, and from personal experience.


I cannot speak for every man, only for myself, and this may sound strange or odd, however as a man who has always had a disproportionate amount of female friends, you won't be friends with a woman that you don't like, and this feeling of like, is not different from the feeling of attraction towards a love interest, it just manifests differently depending on the kind of relationship you build with her.

What sets this apart, is the boundary that is decided from the start of a friendship.

In a way, if a woman I was friends with asked me if I liked them, I would be lying if I said no, however I am friends with them, therefore this like manifests differently.

Yes I like you, but we are friends, so desires that aren't conductive to a friendship are brushed off.

This is not a crush or a deep love interest, but sometimes even such feelings do grow, however a good man knows these feeling come and go, and that in reality love and desire is a choice, same as the way you express this. Friendship is also a choice, so is any relationship and any interaction with another person.

I choose to be friends, and not desire more than that with the woman that I end up being friends with, because this is my choice, it stays this way. However, in reality, friendship is also a mutual choice. Just like how a love relationship cannot be one sided, a friendship also cannot be one sided.

So, both people choose to develop a certain kind of relationship, in this case a friendship, and so it stays. Usually, I would let the woman decide the boundary and set the pace, I notice this and respect this, and choose to develop this according to these boundaries, in this way, an attraction forms a friendship and not something else.

This does not work if I have a crush on a woman from the start, if in such a case I notice a woman sets certain boundaries and is not interested, I respect this and don't try to compensate for my feelings by being friends, as there is no mutual choice here.

Some men will decide to compensate and in order to be close to their crush, they will be friends, but in their heart they don't accept this and want more, which is not conductive to any friendship, as the boundaries need to be set from the start, and the choice to be friends must be mutual.

When a boundary is set from the start, a mutual agreement that there will be friendship, but nothing more, then this is the direction the feelings will develop, which at the highest levels of friendship can become a platonic love.

That said, other feelings do not have to be a barrier to friendship, as friendship can coexist with other feelings being present, when a healthy and positive friendship is maintained these feelings will transform with time into something non intrusive.

This does depend on the person however, some men will not be able to approach friendship without other intentions, and they will not be able to let feelings pass, they may be thinking or wishing they have a chance, because they haven't acknowledged the boundaries and accepted this, or perhaps they are too lonely and unfulfilled in life to have friends of the opposite gender.

A man who is fulfilled, or a man who has proper control over his desires and his mind, will not muddy the waters in a friendship.


As I said with my own example, starting a friendship with a man who has a crush on you to start, does not work, as the man will not want to just be friends, the friendship is in his mind a gateway to be with his crush, this is where the "friend zoning" comes from.

You can still become friends with such a person, only after the crush fades and goes away with time, then there is room for friendship to develop.

If a crush later develops after a friendship is already established, this usually goes away, as there a lot of factors that can temporarily manifest such feelings (transits can be a major factor here).

To have a successful friendship, it is also important that a woman will be consistent with her boundaries, and does not at any point send mixed signals herself, otherwise things will become confusing.

Most men do not have the self control or the inner stability to look past this and maintain friendship rather than anything else, as I said, most likely your male friends will like you and find you an attractive person, but in a friendship this attraction is transformed into an appreciation and care devoid of desire, because the man will subconsciously understand your intentions and boundaries and choose to develop your mutual friendship in accordance with these.

You do need to approach friendship with the opposite gender differently, you cannot expect the same level of openness or physical comfort with a friend of the opposite gender, unless in very rare instances or with a true platonic love.

I'll just say that friends should at the least be able to hug each other comfortably without worry of any other intentions or desires cropping up, and you should be able to speak about personal or emotional topics comfortably without other intentions surfacing.


If you have a friendship with a man, and he does suddenly seemingly out of nowhere confess to you, you can try to interrupt him and just stop him right there, remind him you are friends and don't be too surprised by this.

Just literally stop him before he finishes, and approach this as a friend, remind him that you're friends, don't take this too seriously at all, and be casual but direct about it, like "Dude, we're friends yeah.", or however you'd speak with them.

See how he takes it and how he reacts, and how he acts afterwards in the days to come.

If he agrees and is calm and understanding, or if he becomes shy and retreats, or he is back to his usual self in how he responds this is not an issue, just a temporary thing that he can overcome and does not have to break a friendship.

If he feels stupid or apologizes, even better, as he will be fine and won't let such feelings develop anymore. He might beat himself up over it though, and may need some reassurance that it's all good to move on from this hiccup.

You can and should talk about it with him after that, talk about it openly and casually, this will help him let this out and get over it and it will help you regain trust and comfort around him as well, later on you may be able to laugh about it together as a funny episode.

But if this is too difficult for you to do yourself, you may need to come to terms with this yourself as well that such things can happen and that it doesn't have to be something that tarnished an otherwise perfectly fine friendship.

If he freaks out, or gets emotionally unstable, especially if he gets upset or angry, you should break contact with him and end association, since this is not safe or possible to have friendship with a person in such a state.


Lastly I will say, never befriend a man out of pity, or befriend one just to be nice. This will be misunderstood and will not work.

Nobody is friends with people out of such shallow feelings, and nobody is friends just to be nice. If that is all, then yet be friendly towards them, but don't befriend them.

Only befriend men that you can like as a person and that you actually like.

Then make the choice to be friends. As this goes both ways.

You can only be true friends with a person that you truly enjoy being around and that you really appreciate in your heart, a person that lifts your mood and brightens your day. This can only be with people you like.

In opposite gender relationships, it is then a choice to develop this like into a friendship and not something else.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Lydia" post_id=474934 time=1701261111 user_id=57]

Lydia" post_id=474909 time=1701239896 user_id=57]
As for friends, yes it's important to have friends of the opposite gender. Many of the greatest minds in history had friends of the opposite gender. It's not always about sex as people these days try to make it out to be.

How do you find friends that are male that don't secretly like you, that aren't gay or something? Even having a girlfriend or getting married doesn't mean shit these days.
A few women I know has had some guy friend profess their love after X years thinking they are just friends. It's just so off putting that I'd even consider doing workings against this shit just to have male friendship again. The last genuine male friendship [aside from my partner] I feel I had was when I was a kid :/

That does happen, or they try to have sex because of "friends with benefits" culture.

There needs to be boundaries, and not expecting an opposite-gender friends to be the exact same as same-gender friends, or things can get confusing. But other feelings do happen, it's part of life, but the crush hopefully goes away soon enough.

I highly agree with this pov. As long as you and the other person are mature then communicating this part shouldn't be that difficult but even communication between people is none existent these days and people start assuming and imagining things and letting themselves believe things that aren't there.

I do feel like the way one acts around their male or female friends will be different in general excluding the minor exceptions or other slightly different situations.

I never had a problem just having platonic female friends even if they are objectively pretty.

Yes, I like them but not in a sexual attraction manner. I like them as a person. Their personality resonates with mine as friends and that's it.

Past a point mature thought, soul advancement and deprogramming its really simple to separate the feeling of finding someone beautiful purely objectively and still be their platonic friend.

Seeing where humanity is today its of no surprise why female and male platonic friendships are incredibly rare.

 

[Soul Wings]

Some men will decide to compensate and in order to be close to their crush, they will be friends, but in their heart they don't accept this and want more, which is not conductive to any friendship, as the boundaries need to be set from the start, and the choice to be friends must be mutual.
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This does depend on the person however, some men will not be able to approach friendship without other intentions, and they will not be able to let feelings pass, they may be thinking or wishing they have a chance, because they haven't acknowledged the boundaries and accepted this, or perhaps they are too lonely and unfulfilled in life to have friends of the opposite gender.
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A man who is fulfilled, or a man who has proper control over his desires and his mind, will not muddy the waters in a friendship.

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To have a successful friendship, it is also important that a woman will be consistent with her boundaries, and does not at any point send mixed signals herself, otherwise things will become confusing.

I cannot tell you how many times I have been screamed at because I have been clear, honest, polite and direct about these things. I have also been accused of having a big ego for asserting these boundaries with men, because how dare I assume they want something from me. But men see a smiley face or a smile as flirting or mixed signals these days, so it is a bit unfair in my opinion to put the entire onus of desperate men on women. It is all so emotionally painful and damaging that it doesn't feel worth the bother.
How am I supposed to know whether a man is like this or not. Referring to what I said in my OP, women, myself included, are clueless to this behaviour, because men are intentionally decietful about this. I guess divination could be useful here as Tarot can draw out secrets?

If you have a friendship with a man, and he does suddenly seemingly out of nowhere confess to you, you can try to interrupt him and just stop him right there, remind him you are friends and don't be too surprised by this.

Just literally stop him before he finishes, and approach this as a friend, remind him that you're friends, don't take this too seriously at all, and be casual but direct about it, like "Dude, we're friends yeah.", or however you'd speak with them.

See how he takes it and how he reacts, and how he acts afterwards in the days to come.

If he agrees and is calm and understanding, or if he becomes shy and retreats, or he is back to his usual self in how he responds this is not an issue, just a temporary thing that he can overcome and does not have to break a friendship.

If he feels stupid or apologizes, even better, as he will be fine and won't let such feelings develop anymore. He might beat himself up over it though, and may need some reassurance that it's all good to move on from this hiccup.

But if this is too difficult for you to do yourself, you may need to come to terms with this yourself as well that such things can happen and that it doesn't have to be something that tarnished an otherwise perfectly fine friendship.

I think that is getting into therapist territory there. I don't think its worth risking more time sink into a guy that disregards clear boundaries or decieves me that we are friends and nothing more. I think this would ruin my like for him anyway, or give "the ick" due to the above. All power to the women who can actually do this. I have never met one who would.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

The thing is, if you try to become friends with random guys, then it is easy for everything to become confused. Many people these days put too much emphasis on "friends", but not on real bonds that are often based on past-life connections.

I thought what VoiceofEnki wrote was very enlightening, but I suppose it doesn't apply to lower-level andrapoda.

If you meet someone from past-life, like a sibling or other relation, then it is easy to be friends with them in this life, and be like siblings or such. You will even feel like you have known them for ages because the soul recognizes the connection.

If you go looking for opposite-gender friends then you likely will find people who want to get in your pants, or accuse you of toying with them. Don't look for friends. Real friends will appear when they are meant to

 

[Stormblood]

Lydia" post_id=474824 time=1701190570 user_id=57]

I will be on the war path and will cut down all that gets in my way without remorse until I have secured a future where all White Men of good character will be able to have a woman that they can love.

But you can't do that if you keep saying lies about women. Most women are inherently nurturing and enjoy romance etc. Some aren't, that can easily be seen in natal charts, just like how not all men are the same.

Exactly! Not to mention we can also look at the planets and see. Which planet rules affectionate love? Venus. Which planet rules passionate love, pure sexual lust and physical gratification? Mars. That's what the majority is like.

I would go further and say that masculine women are like the small bit of yang within yin in the famous symbol, while feminine man are the small bit of yin within yang. That is to say that they are a very small percentage, a minority.

Of course, it's good to cultivate beneficial qualities from the opposite, more submissive force within oneself. I'm just painting a general picture.

Also, about friends, having friends of different sex can provide insights into your life and growth that you wouldn't have if you limited yourself to a single sex, right? Even in heterosexual couples, your significant other cannot provide the same type of insight a friend could as the relationship is completely different due to different boundaries and functions.

Do you have any advice for homosexual people looking same-sex friends? All you get if you try using common hubs like apps nowadays is people looking to wank on SnapChat or people interested in endless chats with no meetings and nothing that would really make you think you add value to each other's life. If you go the offline way and try to find them through activities like sports, for example, my limited experience is that you only get shallow connections and the movement you change your activities for whatever reason they suddenly forget you exist and you're the only one to check in until it feels awkward and just let it go.

Should one just wait like you mentioned?

Not only should a man strive to protect women/his woman, but as a human of any gender one should also protect ones inner self with thinking positively and counter negative thoughts using the thought-power of Yang.

It's clear that the role of a man is to be active in the outside sphere/environment, protecting the family from external threats, while the role of a woman is to be active in the inside sphere/environment (i.e. family and spirituality), protecting the internal harmony and nurturing it. A woman provides the roots and the nourishment a man needs to grow in life and to extend outward. A man protects that environment for himself, his wife and his children.

A man will always need a woman in his life. That will be his mother first, then his wife. Most men cannot do anything at home without a woman to take care of it. Housework? Most men cannot even keep a small room tidy, let alone an entire house. Should they learn it? Of course, learning is helpful to them as tidiness and organisation are healthy qualities that help with everything in life, not just the home environment. Still, it remains that it's not something that comes natural to most men and many parents seem to neglect to teach them, and then you have to bear with them and their egos when they go in a house-share...

 

[hailourtruegod]

Behold the self admitted incel who also has admitted to hating his own race's women over and over thinks he will fool anyone that he has experience with women to be able to pass off as wisdom. :lol:

Lying to no one else but yourself, little guy.

Besides the familiar ramblings of what you'll hear from the average skinny fat right winger who thinks it's women's fault why they find them unnattractive we can honestly at least say we all here are strongly against the degenerate behavior pushed on women.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

...

If you have karma associated with negative male relationships, then this is going to create these problems for you, in addition to the poor state of the men themselves.

However, we all have to exist within reality and cannot avoid an entire gender, nor can we can avoid the reality that sexual attraction will exist between two people. How we deal with this is what makes the difference, and where we should focus.

It is also a reality that we will have to deal with people who are below us and may have strange behaviors, like here were these men felt offended that you called them out.

Since you are citing emotional pain and have been accused of a big ego, perhaps working with Saturnine energies, like Nauthiz, would be best, if you affirm it broadly to increase your management of negative people. This will shield your emotions and also help you be more strict, yet fair, with others.

Also, yes you should rely on your intuition to determine how someone may behave towards you, then act appropriately to counter them, when needed. For people who are prominent in your life, Tarot would certainly be a good option, and could even be done multiple times.

 

[Stormblood]

When you do your research in an echo chamber created by the enemy, rather than following the scientific method, you reach similar levels of brainwashing as Abyssos.

 

[Soul Wings]

" post_id=475957 time=1701835279 user_id=21286]
If you have karma associated with negative male relationships, then this is going to create these problems for you, in addition to the poor state of the men themselves.

However, we all have to exist within reality and cannot avoid an entire gender, nor can we can avoid the reality that sexual attraction will exist between two people. How we deal with this is what makes the difference, and where we should focus.

Since you are citing emotional pain and have been accused of a big ego, perhaps working with Saturnine energies, like Nauthiz, would be best, if you affirm it broadly to increase your management of negative people. This will shield your emotions and also help you be more strict, yet fair, with others.

Yes, most of my friends have been males actually, but I have avoided male friendship as I grew older due to my own experiences with the above and fears. Thank you [and others] for acknowledging both sides. People here have been very fair with that, and I am impressed and humbled.
You are right - I need to actively work on this, I cannot simply expect the right male friendship to fall into my lap because it's "destiny". We are Satanic, and we create our own destiny. All too often I forget this.

 

[Amethystos]

How do you find friends that are male that don't secretly like you, that aren't gay or something?

To really explore this subject, a lot needs to be written, I'm only scratching the surface here from what I have seen, and from personal experience.

A very well written description by VoiceofEnki, I second all that he said. I have quite a few female friends and yes, sometimes there comes a wave of sexual or romantic attraction, but a real man will remember the set boundaries and will not muddy the waters as VoiceofEnki said. I would note that this can sometimes happen to the female friend as well and once again you have to be a man and carefully steer her back to the defined boundaries.

On another note, what Lydia said about not looking for friends, that they come on their is also very true. It is the same with love also. True love and true friendship appear on their own and you just need to recognize them and seize them.

On the other hand, I would not pay any attention to the ramblings of Abyssos. At this point, I wouldn't call this guy a Satanist even. To me he is just an infiltrator with exterior agenda that he tries to push here, luckily, without much success.
His own hang-ups and lack of self-reflection and improvement show in his misogynist walls of text.

 

[xlnt]

Lydia" post_id=474909 time=1701239896 user_id=57]

The question I had though was if men who hates women generally speaking often are feminine themselves (like the example with Elliot Rogers), just like women who hates men often may be masculine themselves.

There are masculine women who have male friends, and feminine men who have female friends.

But there definitely are masculine women who hate men, perhaps because they see men as a threat to their own masculinity? And the same for feminine men who hate women. It's almost like they themselves want to be the gender, so they project hate to the whole gender out of jealousy.

As for friends, yes it's important to have friends of the opposite gender. Many of the greatest minds in history had friends of the opposite gender. It's not always about sex as people these days try to make it out to be.

Yes, perhaps Elliot Rogers would had been better off as Ellen Rogers
Disappointed for not being approached, despite being the diamond he thought he was.
Had he instead been a very good looking woman there might had been other disappointments instead, like being approached too much by shitheads etc.

I've sometimes wondered how it would be to live life as a super attractive woman for a while.
After a while I might had build up some heavy shield against idiots myself, similar to how doormen/guards a nightclubs build up theirs, having to deal with nasty people a lot - in the end making them act strongly suspicious of Anyone trying to get inside the club.

I do think I probably would had found it easier to socialize with other women and make women friends that way though (being a woman myself); since the suspicion of any 'getting laid' agenda would be out of the question.

Yes, it's very much about sex these days, where immature "pick up artists" are ranting about "how to get laid" instead of how to build up a good life with steady relationships for both genders.
The term "incel" is saying something itself about how sex-focused it has become, since it's supposed to mean "involontary celibate".
The strange thing though is how so called "incels" never or seldom think they solve their core problem by meeting prostitutes, since there is no "real" intimacy involved in that.
The term "incel" thus actually means something almost entirely different in reality; something more related to not having a real girlfriend/sex relation with real intimate and mutual feelings. Involontary single one might call it then.

But the ironic thing with that is; the less problem a person has with being single or alone - the more inner strength, rich inner life and self sufficiency this shows in a person, and with that also a much bigger chance for that person to actually meet someone - someone who might want to take part of this persons richness within.
This also goes for finding new friends.
If more people meditated seriously and found our path, we would have less of those "Incel" and "The Cable Guy" characters, clearly.