Making clothes at home - For Meteor

[Lunar Dance 666]

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others SS women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

*hugs prez*
There is a list where you can add friend or foe to in settings.

A lot of things used to affect me when I was younger. But I am mentally much stronger now than I was back then. I am not wrong and I should stop questioning myself and comparing myself to the "normal" people that are around. If you want to be extraordinary, then look for the people and things that uplift you. The extraordinary people that came before you, and those that are increasingly working on improving themselves, to be the best they can be.

Also you're welcome on joining in the chat about sewing, if it interests you.

Good to know this, thank you.

I should learn more from you. Actually, there was a time, when I had a strong mentality. Even my friends back then were considering me to be ''strong'', but someday people has broke me. Several years have passed and I am still recovering from some things, which happened to me. Maybe this is a reason, why I become more sensitive now, but it will be fine. I got people in my life, who always trying to lift me up, when I am down, as you say. I got their back too. I learned that I shouldn't shut up my emotion, but to talk about them. I has crossed with people, who where closing their emotion and not talking about them, just empty shells. This always had a bad ending, unfortunately.

Thank you. Sewing is an interesting topic for me. As I said before to tabby, I only were sewing plushies (only once a clothes for my old porcenail doll). I want to learning something new. This thread, which she made is excellent and really helpful.

Look, I didn't have the greatest self esteem for a very very very long time. I am still very timid in real life and I still have trouble with that and don't like to ask things to strangers.
It was very bad.
I was unable to ask anyone anything. I thought I had to do it all myself, because I had been put up for doing things all by myself for so very long from such a very young age.

I had to learn that it was okay to ask things. I had to learn that it was okay to speak what I thought. To stand up against bullies, and to be a little more kind to myself. To enjoy life.
There have been times where I have been pushed far into the corner and that pretty much the part of myself ... that has a 'do or die attitude' ... has kept me from plunging off into the depts.

After I left high school, that damned place with a lot of people that behaved like total idiots (that seemed to me like empty shells too or at least very superficial) but whatever, I came to a place, and when I first started there I needed to arrange something when I was 19 years old and one of my classmates (note: I didn't follow a regular college. I was the youngest in my class, the eldest of the course being near retirement) said that I was (I am trying to express the meaning of the actual word by choosing different words that give off more or less the same feeling because idk the actual translation lol) 'hanging about doing nothing talking shit that everyone already knows like Im a crybaby that deserves attention' ... In the end I had to go to my mother and had to arrange it with her. It was about a place to stay over, I was told by my teacher that it'd be possible to stay over at her place or near it, but real close to the date it happened I was told 'theres no space' so I had to arrange something in the matter of days and I was asking my other classmates what they did. And well this was the comment of one of them.

After that I left the course. Didn't finish it there but looked for a different place to start it again. Then I got into a class that was heartwarming. It was also within a month after I dedicated here. Things got better, I had trouble opening up at first, but by the end of the year my teacher complimented me on how much I had grown.

I haven't had any friends in the meantime. Just my class, this place (despite it being shit with all the newbs and jews making a lot of lies and bs), and daily meditation. I still don't just open up to everyone. It really depends on how one approaches me, and what setting it is.

The right people can really make someone grow.

Let this be a place of growth.

I want to fight for that.

 

[Reyra]

I think it's more than hope. I think all the psychic folk are sensing the changing times. The jews don't have much longer for their collective existence. The Golden Age of Aquarius is right around the corner. They can't stop it. They might have been able to stop it if not for our spiritual warfare efforts, but now it's too late. It's impossible for them to defeat us.

Jack thinks that the cycles observed in the last 1000+ years are eternal natural cycles of society and whatnot, but he's wrong. He's absolutely wrong. It was never supposed to be like this. New patterns will emerge. He's going to see so many female leaders that his head is going to implode from rage while he foams at the mouth. And there were more examples of female leadership than just in Egypt. Even today there's plenty of female leaders, just not many in positions of national leadership. And we can't count Merkel because she's not human. Or any other jewess for that matter. But there are many female leaders in the more micro scale. Women make excellent leaders in Pagan societies. They've done it before, and they will do it again. Jack doesn't realize the power of an actualized, self-realized woman. I don't even think he takes enough stock of spirituality for that matter, of which the females are the stronger of the sexes in that regard. Men may have the physical mass and muscle, but females are stronger in the spiritual side of things. In a spiritual society there's no reason why women wouldn't become leaders.

Athena is the Goddess of, essentially, spiritual warfare as far as I understand. Astarte governs her own star system from what I've read on the forums. And he's telling me that females can't be good leaders. That's insanity, and more importantly it's denial of observable reality. Which puts him out of alignment with Truth.

Jack just sounds more and more like a doomsayer by the day. If he's so sure that the world is going to end and that the jews are going to have another round of victory then he should go build himself a bomb shelter and leave everyone else alone. He's being unproductive after a certain point with the things he's saying, and also disruptive. He links to his two posts in his signature where he explains everything he's said. I read it already, others have surely read it already. If not they can find it easily - it's in his signature. Tabby makes a productive post, and then he comes in and derails it entirely. This is the sort of post that could ACTUALLY lead to more births because it has a chance of teaching people valuable skills that can help with these financially tough times. Making our own clothes allows another tool of survival if society really does crash, and nobody has to waste money on fast fashion and other industrial stuff like that. It translates to: if you don't have the money, but you have the skills, then no money = no problem.

That's actually being productive and solution oriented. What is Jack's main contribution? Alarmism and repeating the same tired old message over and over again to anyone and everyone everywhere, and getting mad at them for not listening. Basically just "RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING!!" Like seriously. Is that even an exaggeration of what he's saying everywhere? If it wasn't for this then he has no other contribution to make. He doesn't know anything else. Posts like these which actually have a chance of solving problems would take away his job security. He wouldn't have anything to contribute if the problems actually got solved because then there would be no problems to bitch about, write elaborate messages about it detailing the in's and out's and working so hard to make himself sound like the smartest person in the room by throwing statistics and facts that everyone knows in their faces. Without that, he's got nothing. All he knows of the world is PUA crap. He has a one-dimensional view of the world, gender relations, companionship, and maybe just life in general. Honestly, would he even know what to do with his life when we do get back to a spiritual Pagan society? Would he know how to live? I wonder. All he knows is what he's seen and read online. He's more adapted to this sick society than anyone else here because he knows it so well, and he wouldn't know what to do without it if he couldn't complain about it anymore.

He thinks he's so wise and understands everything so perfectly, but you have proven that you know so much more about life and relationships than he does, as well as the way society works and functions. But he's going to cling to his numbers and pretend he didn't hear a thing you said. It's his loss. Everything you said was beautiful and spot on, and I couldn't have said it better myself or agreed more. He's dogmatically clinging to his worldview because it's all he knows, and he doesn't want to admit that maybe others know better than him and have more experience and better insights.

There were indeed many women in ancient times that held important positions, and held great insight. I cited Hypatia in one of my last posts, who was one of these. She was killed for this infact because the abrahamic filth deemed this to be a "sin". We have a number of Goddesses who deal in war and politics and so on who are great inspirations.

I have seen the arguements from both sides of the same jewish coin of feminism and MGTOW/PUA people and it does nothing but gear the sexes towards pushing one another away and harboring deep seated resentment. Hate however happens for a reason and does not come out of nothing. After all the one thing these groups all have in common is being severely hurt or affected in someway very negitavely by the opposite sex and often repeatedly. In this case however jews have placated to this to the max to get the effects that we thus have now with what i just named and we ofcourse all understand why. The mother and father are the very first man and woman in a persons life also and thus also the very first impression of the opposite sex to us and how they behave or are "supposed" to behave. Which makes healthy family life in all aspects all the more crucial, to give this as only one example of why, out of many.

I don't think Jack is a bad berson and have not always personally agreed to some things he has said or the way some things have been brought in the past, but there are also other insightful things i have seen that he has given in the past as well. I do although suspect that he could, but do not accuse, that he himself does have a sort of resentment or contempt towards women in general even if this is not conscious. And this is not because of his claims to align with traditional roles in general, and certianly not the points that i myself agree on, but because of some specific things i have seen him say and how he has said it. This though is not an attack but speculation out of trying to see into the thinking patterns of another, so if he wishes to add something to this then he is free to. It does no one any good however to get emotional and will change no ones views by reacting this way. In fact, reacting that way can confirm even further what one already believes.

Thank you again to Tabby btw for here awesome tips on sewing. any skill to have for the hands can become a hobby for me. I actually tried to get into knitting but i never had the time...i even bought some material but never got around to messing with it.

You're right, Jack has certainly made many good contributions, and I shouldn't have diminished that. It sometimes seems to me like he potentially does more harm than good in certain places, but I can't erase his accomplishments and I don't want to take away from that. I suppose I got a little fed up here with some of the nonsense and misunderstandings, and reacted too harshly. That's my bad.

I don't think he is a bad person either. This comment which he mades towards me, it could be my fault too. Maybe I provoked him, or he helt attacked by my words, but it wasn't my intention. It's looks like he is making fun of my feelings, but I don't believe he did that without proper reason. What I intented to say is he should realize, that sometimes his words about women can be misinterpreted and make other women feel worse. I won't say he is mysoginist, I don't know this and I won't say things, which I am not sure, but sometimes I get the feelings that he is hostile towards them and it's hard to take it otherwise. I only wanted him to try understand that there is a reason others see it that way. I don't hate him. I want to look at this from another perspective and I don't have ill intention towards him too, but his actions can push people away from him and he can therefore be left alone. Loneliness is not fun, everyone deserves love. That's what I meant, when I said I felt pity for him. After all, he is one of us and we should help each other, not put ourselve down. It would only be nice, if he tried to understand at least a little what other women want to convey to him.
Anyway, thanks tabby and jrvan for standing up for me, Lunar and others womens. Maybe he will consider, why he is disliked here by womens, maybe not. It's up to him, but everything has a reason. I don't intend to comment on this thread about him anymore. I wanted to clarify some things, but that's sewing topic. So from now I will comment only about it.

 

[Reyra]

*hugs prez*
There is a list where you can add friend or foe to in settings.

A lot of things used to affect me when I was younger. But I am mentally much stronger now than I was back then. I am not wrong and I should stop questioning myself and comparing myself to the "normal" people that are around. If you want to be extraordinary, then look for the people and things that uplift you. The extraordinary people that came before you, and those that are increasingly working on improving themselves, to be the best they can be.

Also you're welcome on joining in the chat about sewing, if it interests you.

Good to know this, thank you.

I should learn more from you. Actually, there was a time, when I had a strong mentality. Even my friends back then were considering me to be ''strong'', but someday people has broke me. Several years have passed and I am still recovering from some things, which happened to me. Maybe this is a reason, why I become more sensitive now, but it will be fine. I got people in my life, who always trying to lift me up, when I am down, as you say. I got their back too. I learned that I shouldn't shut up my emotion, but to talk about them. I has crossed with people, who where closing their emotion and not talking about them, just empty shells. This always had a bad ending, unfortunately.

Thank you. Sewing is an interesting topic for me. As I said before to tabby, I only were sewing plushies (only once a clothes for my old porcenail doll). I want to learning something new. This thread, which she made is excellent and really helpful.

Look, I didn't have the greatest self esteem for a very very very long time. I am still very timid in real life and I still have trouble with that and don't like to ask things to strangers.
It was very bad.
I was unable to ask anyone anything. I thought I had to do it all myself, because I had been put up for doing things all by myself for so very long from such a very young age.

I had to learn that it was okay to ask things. I had to learn that it was okay to speak what I thought. To stand up against bullies, and to be a little more kind to myself. To enjoy life.
There have been times where I have been pushed far into the corner and that pretty much the part of myself ... that has a 'do or die attitude' ... has kept me from plunging off into the depts.

After I left high school, that damned place with a lot of people that behaved like total idiots (that seemed to me like empty shells too or at least very superficial) but whatever, I came to a place, and when I first started there I needed to arrange something when I was 19 years old and one of my classmates (note: I didn't follow a regular college. I was the youngest in my class, the eldest of the course being near retirement) said that I was (I am trying to express the meaning of the actual word by choosing different words that give off more or less the same feeling because idk the actual translation lol) 'hanging about doing nothing talking shit that everyone already knows like Im a crybaby that deserves attention' ... In the end I had to go to my mother and had to arrange it with her. It was about a place to stay over, I was told by my teacher that it'd be possible to stay over at her place or near it, but real close to the date it happened I was told 'theres no space' so I had to arrange something in the matter of days and I was asking my other classmates what they did. And well this was the comment of one of them.

After that I left the course. Didn't finish it there but looked for a different place to start it again. Then I got into a class that was heartwarming. It was also within a month after I dedicated here. Things got better, I had trouble opening up at first, but by the end of the year my teacher complimented me on how much I had grown.

I haven't had any friends in the meantime. Just my class, this place (despite it being shit with all the newbs and jews making a lot of lies and bs), and daily meditation. I still don't just open up to everyone. It really depends on how one approaches me, and what setting it is.

The right people can really make someone grow.

Let this be a place of growth.

I want to fight for that.

I see, it was like this. It's better now for you, so it's a good thing. Now it can only get better. Besides, you don't have to be open to all people either. If someone has a negative attitude towards you, it is not worth worrying about it. Unless such a person is starting to attack you, then it is worth reacting. I've had a few such cases where a girl in my class used to tease me. And just as I ignored her at the beginning, then when it was worse, I had to defend myself. And from that moment on, she stopped teasing me. It is good to know when to let go and ignore, and when to defend yourself. It can be hard to open up to people with such experiences. I am sure with your attitude you can got a lot of friends, if you want to. You are really kind. But also need to know who you can trust and open up. Not everyone has a good intention. Just make sure to find good people. There are a lot of them around us.
And besides, your classmate was an asshole.

I got a lot of problems about myself, I know it. I got very sensitive over little, unimportant things, I am easily being hurted by everything and often gets so stressed out with just anything. I wasn't like this before. When I was a child, I always were saying to myself: It's ok, you are strong. You are strong, you will survive everything. And so I coded it in my head that when bad things happened to me, these words popped into my head. I was very emotionless, I rarely cried. I am surprised that I had friends back then with my attitude. Sometimes they laughed at my lack of "emotion". It was fine until my uncle did what he did. At that time, I thought of him as a father, so when he did it, then it all burst. And I think all those bad memories from earlier years came back as well. I was no longer able to say to myself: you are strong. I felt weak and it stayed this way to today. When I remember that, it was a really dark period in my life. My grandfather said it was my fault he tried to do this to me. My friends didn't want to help me and turned away from me. My brother brought me to court for a restraining order. They dropped my case, though I had evidence and he confessed himself. It was unfair, but life is not fair. I was dealing with depression and PTSD. It was like that for two years and still recovering.

But...these events also taught me to be more compassionate towards others. Even to people, who are rude to me. This people, they were just broken like me. I forgiven my father. He was beaten as a child too. In therapy, I met people with huge problems. I will not forget the woman whom husband abused. Even after completing therapy, he tried to pour acid on her and smashed the glass from the windows.
And I found satanism too. When I wrote the first my thread here (I was very unwell then, so it was very emotional, even posted this in wrong place) I got a lot of help from others. It's a good place, there is a lot of kind people here. I believe we can make this home even better. We are already helping each other and this is how it should be.

 

[Reyra]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

No one cares how you feel. If you're such effected by my words that just means that you agree with me and that you feel guilty about agreeing with me ,which Is why you have this irrational hate towards me.

If you didn't agree with me, that would make my message irrelevant to you. The only reason its hitting home is because its personal.

Also *womp* *womp*

Plenty care how she feels as observed. You're the only one talking here who doesn't care how she feels so that's another lie and another example of your detachment from observed reality and Truth.

That's not how it works. She and others care about your words because you are blood bonded to all of us, you heartless prick. That level of arrogance, toxicity, and and condescension towards your own family is just shameful. How can you even look in the mirror or sleep at night when you treat your family so horribly? You're being abusive, this message of yours just now was abusive. You think this is the normal, edgy, wild west space of the internet where nobody gives a shit, but this is not like the rest of the internet. This place is a House of Satan. This is where his people are. Despite my promptings, you still refuse to make any distinction at all between SS here on the forums, and the rest of society. When are you going to realize that we are different here? You are being toxic towards highly spiritual people with great psychic gifts and abilities and knowledge. We're on a different level compared to the rest of society. You're looking at a whole host of natural empaths, people who care about their world, their people, and who want to create change for the better. How can you even compare us all to the rest of society who don't give a shit about their own home planet? Like I keep telling you, your doomsday message is more tailored to them. Your audience should be a White nationalist forum which has nothing to do with Spiritual Satanism. Stop confusing us for common folk.

And for fucks sake, stop worrying about my race. Take care of your own race, and let me and other members of my race take care of our own. White births have nothing to do with you, and if your future partner dislikes Aryans for whatever reason that's fine because nobody ever said that the different races have to like each other.

All I see is a weak woman who hates herself and can't take on the world and attacked me even though I've never said anything to her before. And I personally don't dislike weak people in general, unless they personally attack me. Like the two women who did even though I didn't provoke them beforehand. Don't go poking the bear thinking about not getting bit back. I have a policy of fighting fire with fire. Also you and your wife are constantly referring to the idea of a future partner mot liking me ,like it affects me in some way. I would never change anything I said if it hurt anyone's feelings or anything like that. My message is specifically designed to appeal to the male population and not to women .That's why its offensive and cutthroat because I know that men have a higher tolerance limit of offense than women do and they can take on the bitter truth head on and they are deductive problem solvers. If I was to appeal to women, I would use stories, metaphors and isolated instances to get a rise out of their emotions and then make my point.

Firstly the only reason why I'm not in a relationship right now is out of choice ,because of the entire money situation where I have to make enough money to buy solar panels and hydroponics systems for the eventual doomsday and I can't focus on women rn. Secondly, I have multiple women who are waiting in line to get with me and one who I've decided to marry in two years. Thirdly ,I say all the things that I've said here to multiple women in their faces and they agree with me majority of the time, unless she's a feminist.

One common theme that I've noticed with men who are like me is that men who are 1)successful in life. 2)Are good looking. 3) Have a lot of experience with women. 4) Are tall and/or ripped. 5)Are confident ,stubborn ,charismatic and/or certain about their words and actions. Have the same way of thinking that I have. And this is beyond ethnicities of whites ,Asians, or whatever race. They all seem to believe either publicly or behind close door in Traditional family values and that female leadership is preposterous.

Conversely anyone who is unsuccessful, fat ,has average looks and sucks with women has this belief (or is lying as a tactic to get laid) of the ethics of female sexual and financial liberation and other related issues.

This ties into research that shows majority of Feminist women prefer Sexist men (you read that right.) They also prefer Dominant, aggressive,often insensitive men with High Testosterone. Research also shows that men with High Testosterone and upper body strength tend to hold Traditional beliefs like not caring about Female independence and instead believing in Traditional Gender roles. This segways into male beauty of which a good indicator is High Testosterone which helps in the formation of a strong jawline.

So in reality what you and these women are saying out of ideological differences are the complete opposite of the truth. That's why I laugh when anyone says that women won't find you attractive if you believe in the ideals that I do. This shaming tactic would work with a sexless virgin who can't get laid because he doesn't have lived experience to know any better. Anyone with real life experience which coincides with all available Data shows women overwhelmingly like Sexist men more than fat Feminist soyboys.

The only thing that women don't like is the way I'm saying things which is okay because my message is not directed at them. Everything that comes out of my mind is directed for male consumption.

The majority of women don't want to work or be independent as shown by the decrease in female happiness over the years. They are only forced to do so because of peer pressure and the culture where they feel like they have to fit in.

Women constantly take offense of what I say because they think I'm referring personally to them. When I say women I think it is assumed that I'm talking about on a balance of probabilities, the majority of women. I talk in probabilities, majoritarianism ,utilitarianism and of the bigger picture. I'm not talking about specific instances or personal lives of people.

I can't make anyone like or dislike me. If you do that's fine. I'll keep repeating the message I've always done to the overwhelming majority of the Right Wingers who agree with me and will inherit the world as they haven't taken the vaccine.

You come parading on every woman's topic, spouting this CRAP.

IF WE ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING HERE?!

PISS OFF.

 

[Jack]

Plenty care how she feels as observed. You're the only one talking here who doesn't care how she feels so that's another lie and another example of your detachment from observed reality and Truth.

That's not how it works. She and others care about your words because you are blood bonded to all of us, you heartless prick. That level of arrogance, toxicity, and and condescension towards your own family is just shameful. How can you even look in the mirror or sleep at night when you treat your family so horribly? You're being abusive, this message of yours just now was abusive. You think this is the normal, edgy, wild west space of the internet where nobody gives a shit, but this is not like the rest of the internet. This place is a House of Satan. This is where his people are. Despite my promptings, you still refuse to make any distinction at all between SS here on the forums, and the rest of society. When are you going to realize that we are different here? You are being toxic towards highly spiritual people with great psychic gifts and abilities and knowledge. We're on a different level compared to the rest of society. You're looking at a whole host of natural empaths, people who care about their world, their people, and who want to create change for the better. How can you even compare us all to the rest of society who don't give a shit about their own home planet? Like I keep telling you, your doomsday message is more tailored to them. Your audience should be a White nationalist forum which has nothing to do with Spiritual Satanism. Stop confusing us for common folk.

And for fucks sake, stop worrying about my race. Take care of your own race, and let me and other members of my race take care of our own. White births have nothing to do with you, and if your future partner dislikes Aryans for whatever reason that's fine because nobody ever said that the different races have to like each other.

All I see is a weak woman who hates herself and can't take on the world and attacked me even though I've never said anything to her before. And I personally don't dislike weak people in general, unless they personally attack me. Like the two women who did even though I didn't provoke them beforehand. Don't go poking the bear thinking about not getting bit back. I have a policy of fighting fire with fire. Also you and your wife are constantly referring to the idea of a future partner mot liking me ,like it affects me in some way. I would never change anything I said if it hurt anyone's feelings or anything like that. My message is specifically designed to appeal to the male population and not to women .That's why its offensive and cutthroat because I know that men have a higher tolerance limit of offense than women do and they can take on the bitter truth head on and they are deductive problem solvers. If I was to appeal to women, I would use stories, metaphors and isolated instances to get a rise out of their emotions and then make my point.

Firstly the only reason why I'm not in a relationship right now is out of choice ,because of the entire money situation where I have to make enough money to buy solar panels and hydroponics systems for the eventual doomsday and I can't focus on women rn. Secondly, I have multiple women who are waiting in line to get with me and one who I've decided to marry in two years. Thirdly ,I say all the things that I've said here to multiple women in their faces and they agree with me majority of the time, unless she's a feminist.

One common theme that I've noticed with men who are like me is that men who are 1)successful in life. 2)Are good looking. 3) Have a lot of experience with women. 4) Are tall and/or ripped. 5)Are confident ,stubborn ,charismatic and/or certain about their words and actions. Have the same way of thinking that I have. And this is beyond ethnicities of whites ,Asians, or whatever race. They all seem to believe either publicly or behind close door in Traditional family values and that female leadership is preposterous.

Conversely anyone who is unsuccessful, fat ,has average looks and sucks with women has this belief (or is lying as a tactic to get laid) of the ethics of female sexual and financial liberation and other related issues.

This ties into research that shows majority of Feminist women prefer Sexist men (you read that right.) They also prefer Dominant, aggressive,often insensitive men with High Testosterone. Research also shows that men with High Testosterone and upper body strength tend to hold Traditional beliefs like not caring about Female independence and instead believing in Traditional Gender roles. This segways into male beauty of which a good indicator is High Testosterone which helps in the formation of a strong jawline.

So in reality what you and these women are saying out of ideological differences are the complete opposite of the truth. That's why I laugh when anyone says that women won't find you attractive if you believe in the ideals that I do. This shaming tactic would work with a sexless virgin who can't get laid because he doesn't have lived experience to know any better. Anyone with real life experience which coincides with all available Data shows women overwhelmingly like Sexist men more than fat Feminist soyboys.

The only thing that women don't like is the way I'm saying things which is okay because my message is not directed at them. Everything that comes out of my mind is directed for male consumption.

The majority of women don't want to work or be independent as shown by the decrease in female happiness over the years. They are only forced to do so because of peer pressure and the culture where they feel like they have to fit in.

Women constantly take offense of what I say because they think I'm referring personally to them. When I say women I think it is assumed that I'm talking about on a balance of probabilities, the majority of women. I talk in probabilities, majoritarianism ,utilitarianism and of the bigger picture. I'm not talking about specific instances or personal lives of people.

I can't make anyone like or dislike me. If you do that's fine. I'll keep repeating the message I've always done to the overwhelming majority of the Right Wingers who agree with me and will inherit the world as they haven't taken the vaccine.

You come parading on every woman's topic, spouting this CRAP.

IF WE ARE NOT YOUR AUDIENCE THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING HERE?!

PISS OFF.

I was only defending myself against your Provocation. This is all your fault and you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Shadowcat]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Please do not stray from or be driven away from forums because of feeling hurt. Thuis is a very good resource for you and can help you grow. Please know the people you don't vibe well with can be put on an ignore list so that you will not longer see their posts. Don't allow yourself to be driven away.

 

[Jack]

Plenty care how she feels as observed. You're the only one talking here who doesn't care how she feels so that's another lie and another example of your detachment from observed reality and Truth.

That's not how it works. She and others care about your words because you are blood bonded to all of us, you heartless prick. That level of arrogance, toxicity, and and condescension towards your own family is just shameful. How can you even look in the mirror or sleep at night when you treat your family so horribly? You're being abusive, this message of yours just now was abusive. You think this is the normal, edgy, wild west space of the internet where nobody gives a shit, but this is not like the rest of the internet. This place is a House of Satan. This is where his people are. Despite my promptings, you still refuse to make any distinction at all between SS here on the forums, and the rest of society. When are you going to realize that we are different here? You are being toxic towards highly spiritual people with great psychic gifts and abilities and knowledge. We're on a different level compared to the rest of society. You're looking at a whole host of natural empaths, people who care about their world, their people, and who want to create change for the better. How can you even compare us all to the rest of society who don't give a shit about their own home planet? Like I keep telling you, your doomsday message is more tailored to them. Your audience should be a White nationalist forum which has nothing to do with Spiritual Satanism. Stop confusing us for common folk.

And for fucks sake, stop worrying about my race. Take care of your own race, and let me and other members of my race take care of our own. White births have nothing to do with you, and if your future partner dislikes Aryans for whatever reason that's fine because nobody ever said that the different races have to like each other.

All I see is a weak woman who hates herself and can't take on the world and attacked me even though I've never said anything to her before. And I personally don't dislike weak people in general, unless they personally attack me. Like the two women who did even though I didn't provoke them beforehand. Don't go poking the bear thinking about not getting bit back. I have a policy of fighting fire with fire. Also you and your wife are constantly referring to the idea of a future partner mot liking me ,like it affects me in some way. I would never change anything I said if it hurt anyone's feelings or anything like that. My message is specifically designed to appeal to the male population and not to women .That's why its offensive and cutthroat because I know that men have a higher tolerance limit of offense than women do and they can take on the bitter truth head on and they are deductive problem solvers. If I was to appeal to women, I would use stories, metaphors and isolated instances to get a rise out of their emotions and then make my point.

Firstly the only reason why I'm not in a relationship right now is out of choice ,because of the entire money situation where I have to make enough money to buy solar panels and hydroponics systems for the eventual doomsday and I can't focus on women rn. Secondly, I have multiple women who are waiting in line to get with me and one who I've decided to marry in two years. Thirdly ,I say all the things that I've said here to multiple women in their faces and they agree with me majority of the time, unless she's a feminist.

One common theme that I've noticed with men who are like me is that men who are 1)successful in life. 2)Are good looking. 3) Have a lot of experience with women. 4) Are tall and/or ripped. 5)Are confident ,stubborn ,charismatic and/or certain about their words and actions. Have the same way of thinking that I have. And this is beyond ethnicities of whites ,Asians, or whatever race. They all seem to believe either publicly or behind close door in Traditional family values and that female leadership is preposterous.

Conversely anyone who is unsuccessful, fat ,has average looks and sucks with women has this belief (or is lying as a tactic to get laid) of the ethics of female sexual and financial liberation and other related issues.

This ties into research that shows majority of Feminist women prefer Sexist men (you read that right.) They also prefer Dominant, aggressive,often insensitive men with High Testosterone. Research also shows that men with High Testosterone and upper body strength tend to hold Traditional beliefs like not caring about Female independence and instead believing in Traditional Gender roles. This segways into male beauty of which a good indicator is High Testosterone which helps in the formation of a strong jawline.

So in reality what you and these women are saying out of ideological differences are the complete opposite of the truth. That's why I laugh when anyone says that women won't find you attractive if you believe in the ideals that I do. This shaming tactic would work with a sexless virgin who can't get laid because he doesn't have lived experience to know any better. Anyone with real life experience which coincides with all available Data shows women overwhelmingly like Sexist men more than fat Feminist soyboys.

The only thing that women don't like is the way I'm saying things which is okay because my message is not directed at them. Everything that comes out of my mind is directed for male consumption.

The majority of women don't want to work or be independent as shown by the decrease in female happiness over the years. They are only forced to do so because of peer pressure and the culture where they feel like they have to fit in.

Women constantly take offense of what I say because they think I'm referring personally to them. When I say women I think it is assumed that I'm talking about on a balance of probabilities, the majority of women. I talk in probabilities, majoritarianism ,utilitarianism and of the bigger picture. I'm not talking about specific instances or personal lives of people.

I can't make anyone like or dislike me. If you do that's fine. I'll keep repeating the message I've always done to the overwhelming majority of the Right Wingers who agree with me and will inherit the world as they haven't taken the vaccine.

You're a toxic piece of trash and a bully. That woman is stronger and smarter than you will ever be. She's honest with herself and others unlike you, and she's not the only one who has a problem with you. All she and others expect is to be treated like a human being with dignity, and you won't allow it. You diminish people based on their gender as if every member of that gender is the exact same clone. I'm glad that's not actually the case because if I had to be like you for even a day then I would want to blow my brains out. It's males like you who bring embarrassment to the rest of the male sex.

Oh so everyone who disagrees with you is a feminist. Good to know. You know what? You are crying more about these so called "insults" from people who simply pointed out your toxic behavior and small-minded perceptions than anyone did about you and your words. It's no wonder you are so concerned with babies because you are one. You can dish it out, but you can't even take it. The truth hurts, Jack, and these people have been nothing but honest. And they weren't even talking to you anyway so it's not personally attacking you in the first place. You say bear, I say bully.

"Is Most Published Research Wrong?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q

Fuck your research studies. They're meaningless. No healthy person could ever truly love you. You'll be the bane of some poor, naive woman who isn't strong in herself. Hopefully instead you reel in some garbage ho who is as empty as you are because that's the kind of person you belong with. I never want to see you with a SS woman, ever. You would only drag her down. You're scum, and I refuse to defend you anymore or highlight your good sides. To think, I was just doing so earlier today with Tabby. What a shame.

You have proven to be a mental midget incapable of growth. I no longer respect you.

Friend ,you're taking this way too seriously. Why would you wish me I'll will just because some of my views don't match yours ? You and these women have just attacked me personally and wished me I'll will which I haven't done to them. I find it pretty funny but also weird that you'd be willing to go to such lengths just for a basic disagreement.

Secondly, I can only see what is being presented to me. The woman you're defending made her first post on this forum bitching about how unfair life is for her and how she hates herself and wants sympathy. Which is what she's doing on this thread. She doesn't care about making friends or any of that. What she wants is to play victim and get validation from people who reinforce that bad behavior. Funny also that the other woman who came to her aid also claims to have no friends, has self esteem issues .The common theme is that all these people are here not for Constructive discussion but for atrocity whoring and gaining sympathy and attacking me as being bad. They are neither smart,nor powerful, nor special. Infact they seem to be rejects of this society and display the opposite of every trait a special person has. They are alone, Socially isolated and alone. And they're blaming either society or a mythical man who just isn't there for her.

I don't know what you do with your day to day life but you need to socialize more so that you can see warning red flags from far away. Also if I have to say one thing to you personally in this thread ,it would be to lose weight and get your testosterone levels checked because it feels as if you're too feminine to your detriment that your getting caught up in the feelings of the moment. Just look at what you're doing.

There is a kind of woman who is like this ,who isn't pretty or is average and has horrible social skills and doesn't fit it. She wants a man to love her and take care of her emotionally but she's sad that she can't get him. Which is why they adopt this identity of a victim to feel special.

The truth is that this woman as I correctly pointed out from her own words is just playing a character to gain sympathy and company. I find it amusing because its happening online. I've saved a lot of women from these kinds of toxic females who just give negative energy and manipulate others spreading destruction all around. A similar case to this (or is this the same ) was Azorm who was constantly acting like a victim trying to trap people in her net of manipulation.

Whenever they are held accountable for their actions or feel like they're being held accountable for their actions, they will attack you personally. But it's okay because in the end these kinds of rejects disappoint everyone they come across and eventually you're vindicated for your assertions.

You can't tell them that they are not special in any way whatsoever and whatever is happening to them in their personal lives is not society's or anyone else's fault.

This woman is broken Inside and your adding propane to the fire by reinforcing her victim complex. She needs to be held accountable for her actions and understand that just because she feels bad isn't anyone else's fault. You should be telling her to stop being a victim and take accountability for her actions.

 

[Shadowcat]

There were indeed many women in ancient times that held important positions, and held great insight. I cited Hypatia in one of my last posts, who was one of these. She was killed for this infact because the abrahamic filth deemed this to be a "sin". We have a number of Goddesses who deal in war and politics and so on who are great inspirations.

I have seen the arguements from both sides of the same jewish coin of feminism and MGTOW/PUA people and it does nothing but gear the sexes towards pushing one another away and harboring deep seated resentment. Hate however happens for a reason and does not come out of nothing. After all the one thing these groups all have in common is being severely hurt or affected in someway very negitavely by the opposite sex and often repeatedly. In this case however jews have placated to this to the max to get the effects that we thus have now with what i just named and we ofcourse all understand why. The mother and father are the very first man and woman in a persons life also and thus also the very first impression of the opposite sex to us and how they behave or are "supposed" to behave. Which makes healthy family life in all aspects all the more crucial, to give this as only one example of why, out of many.

I don't think Jack is a bad berson and have not always personally agreed to some things he has said or the way some things have been brought in the past, but there are also other insightful things i have seen that he has given in the past as well. I do although suspect that he could, but do not accuse, that he himself does have a sort of resentment or contempt towards women in general even if this is not conscious. And this is not because of his claims to align with traditional roles in general, and certianly not the points that i myself agree on, but because of some specific things i have seen him say and how he has said it. This though is not an attack but speculation out of trying to see into the thinking patterns of another, so if he wishes to add something to this then he is free to. It does no one any good however to get emotional and will change no ones views by reacting this way. In fact, reacting that way can confirm even further what one already believes.

Thank you again to Tabby btw for here awesome tips on sewing. any skill to have for the hands can become a hobby for me. I actually tried to get into knitting but i never had the time...i even bought some material but never got around to messing with it.

You're right, Jack has certainly made many good contributions, and I shouldn't have diminished that. It sometimes seems to me like he potentially does more harm than good in certain places, but I can't erase his accomplishments and I don't want to take away from that. I suppose I got a little fed up here with some of the nonsense and misunderstandings, and reacted too harshly. That's my bad.

I don't think he is a bad person either. This comment which he mades towards me, it could be my fault too. Maybe I provoked him, or he helt attacked by my words, but it wasn't my intention. It's looks like he is making fun of my feelings, but I don't believe he did that without proper reason. What I intented to say is he should realize, that sometimes his words about women can be misinterpreted and make other women feel worse. I won't say he is mysoginist, I don't know this and I won't say things, which I am not sure, but sometimes I get the feelings that he is hostile towards them and it's hard to take it otherwise. I only wanted him to try understand that there is a reason others see it that way. I don't hate him. I want to look at this from another perspective and I don't have ill intention towards him too, but his actions can push people away from him and he can therefore be left alone. Loneliness is not fun, everyone deserves love. That's what I meant, when I said I felt pity for him. After all, he is one of us and we should help each other, not put ourselve down. It would only be nice, if he tried to understand at least a little what other women want to convey to him.
Anyway, thanks tabby and jrvan for standing up for me, Lunar and others womens. Maybe he will consider, why he is disliked here by womens, maybe not. It's up to him, but everything has a reason. I don't intend to comment on this thread about him anymore. I wanted to clarify some things, but that's sewing topic. So from now I will comment only about it.

Don't apologize you did nothing wrong. All you did was express how something made you feel. One can simply react to this by trying to understand why instead of taking it personal. And coming from someone who looks at both sides one can understand your reaction and by what is here below honestly so should Jack. If he chooses not to which he doesn't that is his choice.

Jack even admitted and also has a point with his message being geared towards men, and in their language essentially.. Men and women in a sense do speak a different language.

Men are rougher and Cuder in general and will only smooth out these facets around a woman out of kindness or when they want something.

A dating book once said men have steel doors in front of their heart that they open and close at will and that men often will bang on those steel doors of one another ie ripping on insulting ect but this is often in a "good natured playful way" out of "manly effection" but there's alot of women who would get butthurt by that manner of communication as they in general do not have those doors unless something hardens them from an early age or constantly being around men. This can also be in the chart.

Jack can mean thus that things he says can come off to women the wrong way because of how they are said however one would think that if his message is so important with his views on gender relations and family life and society that he would then "tailor his messages" for typical women to understand as well as they are part of the equation of the family unit and gender relations that must be repaired.

Because it seems he disreguards this as unimportant, it counts as an example of what I gave on my speculation of having a contempt for women as a whole. Again if I am wrong that is fine.

But one must realize to get a message or propaganda to work they must speak the language of or appeal to the other and I don't mean to completely sugarcoat to distort the truth either. But you have to show then what's in it for THEM and the positives of this. This is a basic method of persuasion. Like I said to him women are emotional as he knows. So he would need to indeed speak a different language. This still however does not say that everything he says must be agreed apon.

Again please do not consider leaving.

 

[Jack]

According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.

If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.

 

[tabby]

...
Actually tabby I was thinking that I am kind of sorry for causing this mess because I opened my mouth.

But thats all. I wouldn't have liked to see the person that thinks this way to keep replying on here for his own self validation or something like that.

You have no reason to be sorry, you didn't actually cause this. I looked back at your first comment about Jack. You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat (not even talking to the guy directly), then continued to mention the connections between the sewing industry and women's independence (which was still very relevant to the OP. Gaining back the skill of sewing would actually be very good to empower women with and help to raise them out of the slave state in society that the jews have put them in).

Jack didn't make any statement or complaint about your feelings towards him until much later when it was convenient to do so as an excuse for his treatment towards others who did nothing wrong. Instead he commented with statistics about how women's so-called "independence" under the jews has caused the downfall of the society and lowered birth rates, and made a snide remark about women. From there it was a giant rant about women's (false) independence in society being the reason the world is going to shit and why the white race will die off in the next whatever years.

jrvan tried to have Jack understand that you weren't talking about the radical feminism version of "independence", to which Jack only continued to push his views completely unrelated to sewing and SS women. A few of us tried to reason with the guy to have him understand that a number of his points were not accurate, but apparently not agreeing with him means we're "guilty", and pointing out his toxicity, uncalled-for insults, and behaviour makes us "feminists".

Przebiśnieg expressed her feelings about how Jack has caused her to feel from his words and past actions towards women, to which instead of taking responsibility for himself and how he has hurt people, tried to claim that it was because she "probably" has low self worth instead and telling her the reason she feels hurt is because of guilt and not accepting what he says or some bullshit. He put her down and then tried to say that she's the problem. That's manipulative behaviour usually found in extreme narcissists to drive the person they hurt to think that everything the other person is doing to them is because it's their fault, while the bully never takes the responsibility themselves. That kind of shit can drive a person insane to the point they'll attack themselves out of conditioned patterns if it gets bad enough. It's not ok.

The excuse that words can't hurt because it's a digital forum is also just a bullshit excuse for him to continue to belittle people (women especially it seems) whenever he wants and then turn around and say "if you don't like what I say you can just block me". No responsibility taken, no change in behaviour and actions. Same thing continues over and over again.

The entire thread derailed after just those two comments of his. I tried to keep things on track by prioritising the comments related to the actual OP, but it began to really piss me off especially when he outright insulted you and Przebiśnieg for no reason with only the excuse that you insulted him first (which didn't happen in the first place).

Now he claims women are not even his audience yet he preaches all this bullshit under a post only talking about sewing with mostly female SS engaging and just blows up the thread, insulting SS females, while never contributing anything to the OP.

All you said was "independence" paired with "women" in a paragraph talking about sewing, and he got triggered and derailed the thread to talk about low birth rates, belittle women and and preach his prophesies of the fate of the world. So no, you didn't create this mess. Only catalysed something that was bound to happen at some point under a thread relating to mostly women whether we tried to avoid it or not. From what I've seen, Jack is drawn like a moth to a flame whenever a thread gets a bit too feminine in energy for his taste.

 

[tabby]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

You're not alone, conflicts often make me feel like the equivalent of a stressed out hognose snake.

And it's not your fault. Jack had already started to derail the topic before you spoke up about your feelings, which is a good thing that you did. He is being manipulative, rude, and a jerk out of his own choice, not because you somehow hurt him. All you've done is try to express how Jack has made you feel from his words, and he returned it with insults and dismissive remarks. Do not accept behaviour like that from others, and do not apologise to them for the hurt they have put on you. That will only have you accept the negative energy from them onto yourself, which is not something you deserve. You have done nothing wrong.

"Feeling Sorry?" by HPS Maxine:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=17765&p=66584&hilit=Feeling+sorry?#p66584

Feelings and emotions are meant to be expressed, not shut down out of worry or fear that we may hurt another or seem weak and crazy. Emotions and feelings do not make a person weak. (They can make someone very strong when they are in balance and healthily expressed, instead of being shoved down and turned to stone). If we went our whole lives trying to avoid that, we would only hurt ourselves and become isolated, and problems will get worse until something snaps.

As I've said before somewhere in this thread, if things are not expressed a person won't know or be aware of how they make others feel and they will continue to be stuck in their ways and behaviour towards other people. If that person continues to dismiss your emotions and hurt you, they need to be cut out from your life for the sake of your own health (for online things - block or mute buttons).

If you hadn't spoke up, would you have gotten the chance to find out that there are others who feel the same way as you do, and that this issue is not isolated? My motto for life is that "things happen for a reason" (regardless of who is causing that reason, and whether it's positive or negative). This is a good chance for you to gain some growth as a person.

Take a break, use the prayer mudra (I find it always helps to meditate with that mudra when I'm stressed or can't fall asleep), and come back with a fresh mind. You came here for a reason, and you don't have to act alone. Take this as an opportunity to gain more confidence and stability within yourself, and learn how to handle negative people in a healthy way, otherwise people will continue to walk on you throughout your life. I know what that's like, and all it leads to is an energetic cage that just draws more negative people to yourself. If you make yourself feel small on the inside, many people can pick up on that subconsciously and attack you in greater or subtler ways even if they are good people.

Remember one key thing, how strong do you want to be? Because only you can decide that and work for it. There are always going to be awful people, and stressful situations that make you want to run away and get it out of your life. So take this time now to learn and figure out how to better deal with stress and negativity without it being a detriment to your advancement.

 

[tabby]

To get things back on topic...
If anyone is interested, here are some really cool books to check out that I've seen other historical style seamstresses use. You can buy them online as well (might need to search around different websites though).

1) Patterns of Fashion by Janet Arnold
2) The 17th Century Dress Patterns collection from the V&A
3) Draping for Fashion Design by Hilde Jaffe and Nurie Relis

Patterns of Fashion by Janet Arnold - comes in 5 volumes.
Volume 1 - Englishwomen’s dress and their construction, 1660 - 1860
Volume 2 - Englishwomen’s dress and their construction, 1860 - 1940
Volume 3 - The cut and construction of clothes for men and women, 1540 - 1620
Volume 4 - The cut and construction of linen shirts, smocks, neckwear, headwear and accessories for men and women, 1540 - 1660
Volume 5 - The content, cut, construction and context of bodies, stays, hoops and rumps, 1595 - 1795
Volume 6 - Coming soon

http://quitespecificmedia.com/ - has Volumes 1 - 4
https://shop.theschoolofhistoricaldress.org.uk/

The 17th Century Dress Patterns collection from the V&A - comes in 3 volumes.
Volume 1 - 17th Century Women’s Dress Patterns Book One
Volume 2 - 17th Century Women’s Dress Patterns Book Two
Volume 3 - 17th Century Men’s Dress Patterns

Volume 1-3 be found here: https://www.vam.ac.uk/shop/books.htmll

The pattern used in one of the videos I linked in the OP (modern walking skirt) came from this store:
https://trulyvictorian.info/index.php/shop/

 

[tabby]

...

Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy.

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

 

[Shadowcat]

...
Actually tabby I was thinking that I am kind of sorry for causing this mess because I opened my mouth.

But thats all. I wouldn't have liked to see the person that thinks this way to keep replying on here for his own self validation or something like that.

You have no reason to be sorry, you didn't actually cause this. I looked back at your first comment about Jack. You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat (not even talking to the guy directly), then continued to mention the connections between the sewing industry and women's independence (which was still very relevant to the OP. Gaining back the skill of sewing would actually be very good to empower women with and help to raise them out of the slave state in society that the jews have put them in).

Jack didn't make any statement or complaint about your feelings towards him until much later when it was convenient to do so as an excuse for his treatment towards others who did nothing wrong. Instead he commented with statistics about how women's so-called "independence" under the jews has caused the downfall of the society and lowered birth rates, and made a snide remark about women. From there it was a giant rant about women's (false) independence in society being the reason the world is going to shit and why the white race will die off in the next whatever years.

jrvan tried to have Jack understand that you weren't talking about the radical feminism version of "independence", to which Jack only continued to push his views completely unrelated to sewing and SS women. A few of us tried to reason with the guy to have him understand that a number of his points were not accurate, but apparently not agreeing with him means we're "guilty", and pointing out his toxicity, uncalled-for insults, and behaviour makes us "feminists".

Przebiśnieg expressed her feelings about how Jack has caused her to feel from his words and past actions towards women, to which instead of taking responsibility for himself and how he has hurt people, tried to claim that it was because she "probably" has low self worth instead and telling her the reason she feels hurt is because of guilt and not accepting what he says or some bullshit. He put her down and then tried to say that she's the problem. That's manipulative behaviour usually found in extreme narcissists to drive the person they hurt to think that everything the other person is doing to them is because it's their fault, while the bully never takes the responsibility themselves. That kind of shit can drive a person insane to the point they'll attack themselves out of conditioned patterns if it gets bad enough. It's not ok.

The excuse that words can't hurt because it's a digital forum is also just a bullshit excuse for him to continue to belittle people (women especially it seems) whenever he wants and then turn around and say "if you don't like what I say you can just block me". No responsibility taken, no change in behaviour and actions. Same thing continues over and over again.

The entire thread derailed after just those two comments of his. I tried to keep things on track by prioritising the comments related to the actual OP, but it began to really piss me off especially when he outright insulted you and Przebiśnieg for no reason with only the excuse that you insulted him first (which didn't happen in the first place).

Now he claims women are not even his audience yet he preaches all this bullshit under a post only talking about sewing with mostly female SS engaging and just blows up the thread, insulting SS females, while never contributing anything to the OP.

All you said was "independence" paired with "women" in a paragraph talking about sewing, and he got triggered and derailed the thread to talk about low birth rates, belittle women and and preach his prophesies of the fate of the world. So no, you didn't create this mess. Only catalysed something that was bound to happen at some point under a thread relating to mostly women whether we tried to avoid it or not. From what I've seen, Jack is drawn like a moth to a flame whenever a thread gets a bit too feminine in energy for his taste.

Behavior to shadowcat? i dont believe that was me

 

[Shadowcat]

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Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

Well, as much as he thinks he didn't start this, his first comment under this thread and his conversation to ShadowCat gave me the vibe this was going to happen whether I tried to avoid it or not.

If he was only looking down on the bimbos on the streets that the jews created, I'd have less of an issue. But I will not tolerate other SS women being dismissed and undermined like this. Not by one of our own brothers. Certainly not under a post meant to help people develop a lost life skill.

It made me very happy to see many other females engage here to talk about something I'm quite passionate about, and help each other with advice. Until the party pooper of misogynistic asses came to crash the door down.

I'm not angry at you, Lunar, btw. Sorry if you feel that.

Before Jack gets mad at my use of the word "misogynistic" :

definition - adjective, strongly prejudiced against women.

Describes him pretty well under here, I'd say.

Just for good measure...

"Prejudice can be an affective feeling towards a person based on their perceived group membership."

noun - Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
- dislike, hostility, or unjust behavior deriving from unfounded opinions.

his first comment under this thread and his conversation to ShadowCat gave me the vibe this was going to happen whether I tried to avoid it or not.

Ohh lol i actually found my and jacks replys quite benign at that start, i was telling him about sewing metal with fire (welding) to which i was told is a handy skill to have when the world goes to shit...which it is lol. Lunar got upset at him, as shes had beef with him before i believe, and then he replied to her and it went from there. the rest i had given my two cents on objectively and detached as possible and left :?

i actually hoped it would help things calm down trying to give imput to the big picture and remain impartial but helass. i must say i never like it when SS bicker here but no one can be forced to like anyone nor is it realistic to agree with everythying someone says.

 

[High Priest Hooded Cobra 666]

We are all for sympathy and support between SS. It's just when this is exploited and used for other nefarious purposes [as done by jews almost everytime] one should be wary against that.

Anyone can find and seek support in these boards, it's one of the reasons they exist.

 

[Shadowcat]

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Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy.

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum

 

[tabby]

According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.

If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.

Then expect others to do the same, Jack. This isn't a highway with a blocked off bike lane. If you're going to strike first without cause, derail a thread with unrelated comments that apparently isn't even for "a female audience", and throw insults without making the effort to listen to the other people who you are belittling - expect anger and insults in return without complaint.

SS do not take abuse or mistreatment, and that is what has become of this thread. You have how many individuals now telling you the same thing over and over about your behaviour, and you choose it to mean we are attacking you. I don't understand how you can expect your future woman to be able to tell you when something is wrong if you make no effort to practice listening to SS females when they are doing the same thing with you right now. It's not a woman you seem to want, Jack, but a controlled robot who does everything in accordance to your programming. You are really manipulative and toxic, and try to twist things so that when you hurt someone you take no responsibility, and turn the blame on them and say it's their problem not yours. That is what I meant when I said a woman will never get to be a healthy woman under you. You don't treat people as if you want them to be healthy.

You complain about emotional people, but you got red faced right from your first few comments about birth rates and women's independence, and have been venting your points at "not your targeted audience", which makes all of this incredibly pointless on your part. You could have made your own thread talking about birth rates to the apparent men all this was for, but you chose not to and ruined a perfectly decent thread. You go back over and rewrite things you've said to mean other things, as if that was the meaning all along despite having never said that in the first place. Keep it consistent or admit that you changed your mind about a statement otherwise this is just one confusing mess that looks like you're trying to cover up your tracks, then get mad when we don't get what your argument is and say that it's inaccurate.

Can you really not see how upsetting all this is?

You have neither been reasonable or helpful under this thread. We have been trying to - quote unquote "confront" you - the whole time regarding things you've said that are incorrect or inaccurate, but you would not listen and have been very demeaning towards the women here. We are defending ourselves against your toxic comments, but that seems to indicate in your mind as justification to put down an SS who has gone through some real shit in life, and had bad things happen to her. You have no idea what it's like to be a woman, so don't speak on behalf and change what we say to mean things it does not.

To reference something you said previously, no, a woman who has any shred of self-respect does not want a sexist man. We've had to deal with that shit all through the xtian eras. It's disgusting to live under. No healthy person wants to be under the thumb of abusive people who do not care about you, don't care about your emotions or emotions in general, and what you have to say - just because of your sex. Imagine if the tables had been different, and it was men who had been as heavily cursed and oppressed as women have been under xtianity and jewish rulership? There is a big difference between acknowledging the differences of the sexes and accommodating those differences in a healthy manner, compared to putting one sex down over the other.

I think it would be more accurate to say that women want men who are actually men, not the emotionless assholes that xtianity turned many of them into, and can properly fulfill the roles of a man. And men want women who are actually women with a decent level of self-respect, not the radical crazy whores groveling at the feet of jewesses, and can properly fulfill the roles of a woman.

You make no differentiation between SS and radical feminists, and take neither spirituality or healthy individuals into account of your statements. Instead you preach, insult, and claim you are being attacked when someone is simply trying to tell you how you have made them feel with past comments about women. No one "attacked" you or insulted you until you threw the first punch directed at an SS girl and derailed a thread that was meant to help people.

I will say this again because I am just getting fed up with this. If you have nothing to contribute to the OP and women are not your target audience for the side topics you created, move on and make your own topic. jrvan made one for you but it seems it's not to your favour.

I am proud of the OP I made. For the first time I got to share something I'm passionate about to help others uplift themselves with an ancient skill, and I'd hoped that I could have some time to recover after the situation with Aldrick, regain my rhythm, and talk about sewing advice and knowledge with other SS. Can you not ruin a good thing?

 

[Jack]

According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.

If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.

Nobody is allowed to their own opinion of you then, even if justified. That's what you're saying? You're changing your story. First it's a personal attack, and now you say that people can't discuss about you with each other publicly. And you call her the victim...

First you say that feelings don't matter, and you don't give a shit what people think of you. Now you're making a big fuss over people discussing you. Which is it? Do you care what people think of you, or not? Because if it matters to you so much then you shouldn't be surprised about people thinking this way of you based on your callous behavior around the forums. What did you expect? Did you think people were going to have a favorable view of you when you regularly spit on them? And then fold your arms like "pfft feelings don't matter, feelings are for pussies."

This is too stupid. You're getting a taste of the fruits of your labor, and seeing for the first time what your brothers and sisters think of you and how they feel about you. You can't handle it. If you don't like it then make a change for the better because these people aren't going to change their minds about you with the way you are now. No one has done you injustice, and you're not the victim here. No one has defamed you, nor offered an untrue analysis of your character. Everything here is a product of your own doing, and what you are seeing is everyone's reaction.

Your lack of self awareness will be your undoing.

When I'm painted in a bad light I have to present my view of the issue so that everyone reading gets a balanced view.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't talk about me. Feel free to do so. But I'm going to present my side of the argument so that everyone is aware of the statistics and facts and can see how outliers are taken out of context.

When I presented the facts, everyone here started personally attacking me and moving into specific outliers and instances that don't disprove anything I've said.

It only makes me look terrific that the groupthink of being unable to think critically drives people's behavior like you all have done. And that I still haven't fallen unto pressure because of Shaming tactics and I never will.

 

[Aquarius]

steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

 

[High Priest Hooded Cobra 666]

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I can't make anyone like or dislike me. If you do that's fine. I'll keep repeating the message I've always done to the overwhelming majority of the Right Wingers who agree with me and will inherit the world as they haven't taken the vaccine.

Bringing the generalized rules of random women you met somewhere and repeating them like a robot, as if they are "universal patterns" that also affect women here, is rather stupid. Basically just incompatible with the current environment here.

I doubt any woman of the caliber you speak and always pre-occupy your time over [because to have constructed such a perception of the world, you focus on the majority of them]. Also, stop reading the rants of Happa Anglin that had to go all the way to Thailand to find the weakest woman on earth to get some sex, because these are have seriously damaged your judgement.

You think most of the West is a hellhole of whores, because of some pictures you saw online. This is not the average median behavior, if anything, but in New York and in some other specific places. Original systems of women and many of them being sane still, is actually the fact, not the reverse. As about leftist loonies you have in mind, these are not a majority.

However, the more women are deterred from this stupid behavior that many "awake" males represent [rife with autism and virginity], women will be dissuaded from being in any place where correct thinking takes place. You following Happa Anglin methodology and Christian Conservatism "values" thinking these are attractive, you are only asking for a repetitive failure.

External symptoms of the same behavior, can have different motivations in people here. Not everyone is evoking mercy or trying to whine. If a person relies their problems here, is not your pity attention festival 99% of the time, but to get help and to improve.

You are not acting on a fundamnetal level differently at this point than any feminist who spends all her time trying to reason out that most men are weak phallocratic pigs, and provides data evidence for it. The common denominator here is complete lack of awareness of the individual cases, where one is, and how this relates to the whole. The bridge is always missing here.

This worthless idiocy of this repetitive pattern, you think is manly or masculine, but consistent whinning on the behavior of women, accompanied with incapacity to change this behavior how a man should, screams deficiency of the right wing, which constantly whines 24/7 about what is happening with "Women". They have no solution other than crying about it, but crying in big muslces and tears, and hoping for Jesus to return to make things "right" again.

The covering of this deficiency is the illusion that people who think like you are "Masters of Women" or the "Masters of the Feminine" or something, while most of them can hardly get any girl to do anything with them, revealing all the bullshit about "Attraction to Sexists" and all this nonsense, bullshit.

Women in their mind "Might" be thinking these things, but in reality, they follow other routes of action in contrast to these perceived attractions, and more things. The whole "Alt-right" and much of the general right suffers from this, and they don't want to accept this illness.

The same spirit of whimping is behind these patterns, and the same spirit of how most men on the right are quite autistic. This is also why many of the "Pencil neck leftists" that you think are inferior, do sometimes end up with some really beautiful women.

Some are breeding their wives like rabbits, and so on, while many on the "Alt Right" sit with their cock in their hands doing nothing, but saying theories about what women will find them attractive for just lifting weights or something. They also attract the utterly submissive type which is only one singular type of woman [if even this] and does not serve the whole palette of a balanced society. n

Regardless, limit the kvetching and toxicity of the landmass of average women, where it belongs. In fact that's not even the average woman out there. It's not really in here.

 

[Shadowcat]

steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

them menfolk and that fatassery tho :lol:
you are sweet haha *hug*

 

[Jack]

According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.

If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.

Then expect others to do the same, Jack. This isn't a highway with a blocked off bike lane. If you're going to strike first without cause, derail a thread with unrelated comments that apparently isn't even for "a female audience", and throw insults without making the effort to listen to the other people who you are belittling - expect anger and insults in return without complaint.

SS do not take abuse or mistreatment, and that is what has become of this thread. You have how many individuals now telling you the same thing over and over about your behaviour, and you choose it to mean we are attacking you. I don't understand how you can expect your future woman to be able to tell you when something is wrong if you make no effort to practice listening to SS females when they are doing the same thing with you right now. It's not a woman you seem to want, Jack, but a controlled robot who does everything in accordance to your programming. You are really manipulative and toxic, and try to twist things so that when you hurt someone you take no responsibility, and turn the blame on them and say it's their problem not yours. That is what I meant when I said a woman will never get to be a healthy woman under you. You don't treat people as if you want them to be healthy.

You complain about emotional people, but you got red faced right from your first few comments about birth rates and women's independence, and have been venting your points at "not your targeted audience", which makes all of this incredibly pointless on your part. You could have made your own thread talking about birth rates to the apparent men all this was for, but you chose not to and ruined a perfectly decent thread. You go back over and rewrite things you've said to mean other things, as if that was the meaning all along despite having never said that in the first place. Keep it consistent or admit that you changed your mind about a statement otherwise this is just one confusing mess that looks like you're trying to cover up your tracks, then get mad when we don't get what your argument is and say that it's inaccurate.

Can you really not see how upsetting all this is?

You have neither been reasonable or helpful under this thread. We have been trying to - quote unquote "confront" you - the whole time regarding things you've said that are incorrect or inaccurate, but you would not listen and have been very demeaning towards the women here. We are defending ourselves against your toxic comments, but that seems to indicate in your mind as justification to put down an SS who has gone through some real shit in life, and had bad things happen to her. You have no idea what it's like to be a woman, so don't speak on behalf and change what we say to mean things it does not.

To reference something you said previously, no, a woman who has any shred of self-respect does not want a sexist man. We've had to deal with that shit all through the xtian eras. It's disgusting to live under. No healthy person wants to be under the thumb of abusive people who do not care about you, don't care about your emotions or emotions in general, and what you have to say - just because of your sex. Imagine if the tables had been different, and it was men who had been as heavily cursed and oppressed as women have been under xtianity and jewish rulership? There is a big difference between acknowledging the differences of the sexes and accommodating those differences in a healthy manner, compared to putting one sex down over the other.

I think it would be more accurate to say that women want men who are actually men, not the emotionless assholes that xtianity turned many of them into, and can properly fulfill the roles of a man. And men want women who are actually women with a decent level of self-respect, not the radical crazy whores groveling at the feet of jewesses, and can properly fulfill the roles of a woman.

You make no differentiation between SS and radical feminists, and take neither spirituality or healthy individuals into account of your statements. Instead you preach, insult, and claim you are being attacked when someone is simply trying to tell you how you have made them feel with past comments about women. No one "attacked" you or insulted you until you threw the first punch directed at an SS girl and derailed a thread that was meant to help people.

I will say this again because I am just getting fed up with this. If you have nothing to contribute to the OP and women are not your target audience for the side topics you created, move on and make your own topic. jrvan made one for you but it seems it's not to your favour.

I am proud of the OP I made. For the first time I got to share something I'm passionate about to help others uplift themselves with an ancient skill, and I'd hoped that I could have some time to recover after the situation with Aldrick, regain my rhythm, and talk about sewing advice and knowledge with other SS. Can you not ruin a good thing?

Nothing that I've said can be disproven in any way whatsoever. All you've done is bring up specific instances of hypothetical scenarios and situations ,trying to make a moral case of what I'm saying is right or wrong. While I've specifically said from the beginning that I don't believe in "Right or Wrong" and that I'm just saying how the situation is and on a emotionless utilitarian and pragmatic approach.

I didn't derail this thread. Lunardance was the one who first tried to attack me, trying to paint me as a villain. I had to respond by presenting my point of view that everything I was saying was correct .And after I presented the facts everyone got pissed due to experiencing cognitive dissonance of being unable to accept reality (facts and statistics.)

I have not once gotten emotional. I've written everything from a purely rational, pragmatic perspective. I haven't once demeaned, insulted or personally attracted anyone. If anything the opposite is the case.

Everyone here has personally attacked me, wishing me I'll will in my personal life and wishing me romantic failure and called me all sorts of names. This is regardless of me already saying that I'm not personally talking about anyone and that I'm talking in generalities.

All you've shown is the inability to listen and agree with reality and immature behavior of personal attacks and insults and victim blaming.

Every single one of my points is based on facts and logic and reality. No matter what you personally have to say about reality, doesn't change reality.

Truth is Objective. Your appreciation of the Truth is Subjective. This is the delusional behavior of saying "my truth." There is no "my truth." Social behavior is judged based on Generalities and statistics of what the majority of people do, not what you personally believe is right and wrong.

And this doesn't have anything to do with Christianity . The entirety of Ancient history agrees with my view with hundreds of thousands of Philosophers and Statesmen making the exact same points that I have made. Just read the work of Plato and Socrates on the Topic of Women in Society. Read the views of Adolf Hitler and other prominent Nazis on the same. You are historically unaware of civilization . Female Independence and Promiscuity is a predictor of Civilizational collapse. Not just in Christian times. Every single Pagan civilization follows the same route where Female Independence and Promiscuity immediately follows civilizational collapse. Ancient Philosophers works would be considered borderline misogynistic and incendiary by you if you read them.

Not a single one of my points is inaccurate or wrong and your debating methods prove my point that women are more emotional than men and are on a balance of probabilities incapable of critical thinking.

All you've proven is that everything I've said is correct and your refusal to accept that reality. Your Contrarian revolt against pertinent facts and evidence is another reason why women can't be leaders and politicians. There were no Nazi party leaders who were involved in policy as women because Adolf Hitler knew that women can't accept logic and reason, and they only listen to emotion and peer pressure from the culture.

There is no biological difference between women in western society and those in Nazi Germany. They employed the same mass communication, propaganda and emotional persuasion albeit in different directions. Just like a society can manufacture worthless sluts ,a society can manufacture dutiful wives and mothers. The only difference is that the people in control must be willing to do the things that are required of them.

You're fighting me on every single point of fact that I'm presenting and making yourself look stupid because this is incontrovertible evidence. It doesn't matter what anyone's personal opinion is. The reality is the reality. Regardless of whether one is a SS "woman " or not ,you're still having the same points of contention across the board of all races who have been brought up by Feminism.

Women inherently desire Sexist men who feel that they have to protect women from themselves, take care of them and lead them in a relationship.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/why-women-including-feminists-are-still-attracted-to-benevolently-sexist-men-101067

Your appreciation of whether or not you like this or not is of no consequence as is your opinion that no self respecting woman should be like this. The fact of the matter is that your subjective interpretation of things are in direct conflict with actual reality. You are living in a delusional world of your own making. Women overwhelming desire men who treat them like a being that needs taking care of, that cannot be a leader or independent. They wanted to be taken care of. They want to leave responsibility over to the man to make tough decisions in life and life changing choices. You fighting me on this is simply you refusing to accept reality.

In the real world women who are high earners and independent are the unhappiest demographic of women in the United States.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/14/619338703/u-s-suicides-rates-are-rising-faster-among-women-than-men

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/women-and-prescription-drug-use_n_1098023

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy

So everyone here who is arguing against me is in direct conflict with lived in reality and is arguing just to make a point. Its like me arguing the Suns gaze shouldn't be Hot. I feel like the Suns Gaze should be cool .

It doesn't matter what I think is correct or wrong. Reality is reality, human biology is human biology.

There's nothing wrong with women wanting to be taken care of, not wanting to work and be dependent upon a man and give responsibility unto him. This is how the world worked since hundreds of thousands of years of human existence till the last century when Feminism and this idea of female financial and sexual independence was created out of the Marxist Frankfurt school.

When I say women, I am talking about the majority of women. And that constitutes reality. If you're fighting me on any of my points you're making a contrarian outlier argument that isn't based on reality.

Also ,I don't take responsibility for anything that I've said makes you feel any type of way. According to my Free Speech rights I can make any kind of incendiary and inflammatory speech that I like that doesn't involve specifics.

Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[1] The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action".[2][3]:702 Specifically, the Court struck down Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence

If that woman feels sad ,that's her problem. I'm not going to change my tone in anyway whatever just to appease someone else.

I never bring my personal opinion about topics related to Gender and Social issues because what I personally think don't matter.

For example I personally don't think that Jews should be in any kind of powerful position in any country and that they shouldn't be inside of any countries period. My personal view is that they should be shipped to Islands where they can't interact with other humans as we start thinking about methods of the Final Solution.

But regardless of my view, the fact is that jews are entrenched in any single political organization, company of lobbying groups ,scientific establishment, banking, media etc.

I personally like women who are submissive, hold the same positions ideologically that I do and are not combative ,gives me peace and isn't naggy and complaint, is fit like I am. Regardless of what you think about this woman I'm destined to meet this woman and she's destined to be my wife because that's what I'm attracted to and my RAS is pulling towards me. Your opinion here doesn't change the fact that I was meant to be the husband of a woman who was naturally born as submissive like I was born Dominant. Your judgment about what is good or bad has no bearing on the outcome. I have never coerced any woman to love me through any kind of manipulation. They know what I believe in and what I stand for.

This is similar to you saying that you do not like women who feel attracted to men who want to take care of them and don't want them to be independent or responsible in any significant way. Or that you don't like my view that women can't and don't want to be leaders, or work or be independent.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969#:~:text=Relative%20declines%20in%20female%20happiness,subjective%20well%2Dbeing%20for%20men.

Regardless of how you feel about these women ,the fact of reality is that they exist in the majority. That the majority of attractive men with good genes are Sexist and majority of humanity who haven't taken the vaccines and are going to inherit the earth after the defeat of the jews hold similar positions like I do on these topics.

Also I feel like I'm beating the skeleton of a dead horse that has decomposed and has since caught fire.

Pictured : Arguing with women is like beating the decomposed dead horse

I'm just doing this because I want to present to men the image that they should never be ashamed or bullied for wanting to speak facts, just because women will say "How Dare you. "

No matter what anyone says a man must always defend himself and not bend before social pressure. We must offend, we must make incendiary and extremist statements. We must push the overtone window because we must always put our ideals before our emotions. I never argue with women in relationships because I know women can't be argued with. The only way to change her mind is to change her emotions and then get her to agree using compliance ladders with what your saying. Arguing logically against a woman for something you want from her is like digging a grave for yourself to jump inside.

Also there is no need for me to tailor my message to women because they aren't going to take any action either way. It is the men who take action, who will lead the women in their personal lives and it is they who will impart value to a woman and the women will follow. The only demographic that needs to be convinced of what I'm saying is men across all cultures. And they will listen to ideological instructions and statistics and logic,not confusing emotional drivel.

I've laid all the facts and logic which aren't up for debate across the table and I implore everyone reading to come to a conclusion from the lens of critical thinking. Emotion is reserved for actions you take in your personal lives while dealing with another person. Ideological positions must always be based on reality, not your personal view of the world. That is my final message on this topic ,on this thread. Peace out.

 

[Jack]

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Bringing the generalized rules of random women you met somewhere and repeating them like a robot, as if they are "universal patterns" that also affect women here, is rather stupid. Basically just incompatible with the current environment here.

I doubt any woman of the caliber you speak and always pre-occupy your time over [because to have constructed such a perception of the world, you focus on the majority of them]. Also, stop reading the rants of Happa Anglin that had to go all the way to Thailand to find the weakest woman on earth to get some sex, because these are have seriously damaged your judgement.

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Anglin has never linked any of the studies or brought up any of the facts that I've brought up and as I've said from the beginning I'm talking in generalities and statistics, not about individual cases. Its just miscommunication because the statistics and actual reality on the ground are incontrovertible.

 

[tabby]

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I looked back at your first comment about Jack. You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat (not even talking to the guy directly), then continued to mention the connections between the sewing industry and women's independence (which was still very relevant to the OP. Gaining back the skill of sewing would actually be very good to empower women with and help to raise them out of the slave state in society that the jews have put them in).
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Behavior to shadowcat? i dont believe that was me

I didn’t mean his behaviour to you as in how he treated you, I said “You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat” - the “to” here meaning talking to you about his past behaviour and her feelings about the guy.

Does that make sense?

 

[tabby]

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his first comment under this thread and his conversation to ShadowCat gave me the vibe this was going to happen whether I tried to avoid it or not.

Ohh lol i actually found my and jacks replys quite benign at that start, i was telling him about sewing metal with fire (welding) to which i was told is a handy skill to have when the world goes to shit...which it is lol. Lunar got upset at him, as shes had beef with him before i believe, and then he replied to her and it went from there. the rest i had given my two cents on objectively and detached as possible and left :?

i actually hoped it would help things calm down trying to give imput to the big picture and remain impartial but helass. i must say i never like it when SS bicker here but no one can be forced to like anyone nor is it realistic to agree with everythying someone says.

I’ll try explain my thinking here. There are a few things he said early on that became the cores of the rest of his comments which can be picked up on.

The first one “Making Women Great again, one at a time. Hurrah!!!”

Originally I had wanted to let him know that sewing is not a female only skill. Men can (and imo should) not be deterred from learning this skill simply because sewing in the mass mind is paired with being a feminine skill.

Men a long time ago were once the weavers of looms, until that role was transferred to women. Men also sewed things like corsets in the industry because it was incredibly labor intensive on the hands before they had machines to do it.

Sewing is valuable to anyone who has clothes on their back. At the very least, one should know how to mend and repair their own clothes. Fast fashion is really bad for the environment, and the moment a lot of people get a rip or hole in their clothes they throw it out.

Maybe I should have talked about darning too (I think I linked a video about it somewhere here in the thread).

But I left it alone since I felt I wasn’t understanding Jack’s comment. The wording and vibe seemed to mean something else other than what I wanted this thread to be about, so I avoided it hoping that things wouldn’t turn out the way I felt it was going to.

The next one referring to the apocalypse regarding your welding skills. All I could think was, why specifically the apocalypse? That kind of skill is really handy for the current society we live in now because of the increase in technology, cities, and what-have-you. What do you do if you don’t have access to the tools you need for metal working in an apocalyptic situation?

Side note: for survival sewing you can strip dry grass into threads and break a bone or use a stiff/sharp part of a plant or splinter to make a needle. You can make hand spindles to spin hair, fur, or grass into thread and make looms in the wild to weave “fabrics” for clothes. Leather and fur from animal hides are a quicker and less tedious way to stay warm and clothed (leather lasts a long time too and can act as an armour of sorts if the leather is thick enough. May not stop a bullet but it’s certainly better than being naked) - of course this is like really bare bones survival but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/KXHcPOpY1Co

I know none of his earlier responses to you were edgy or negative, and I can see that Lunar has a feud with the guy - I don’t blame her. Many things that Jack has said just in the time I’ve been here have made me do double-takes and feel uncomfortable.

But the key words on his part “apocalypse” and “Making Women Great again,one at a time” - followed by his reaction to Lunar and his first comment to Przebiśnieg (which really does look very manipulative and switching how she feels to mean something it doesn’t) set the stage for the rest of his comments which focused on the apparent apocalypse, degenerate women, women’s independence, and insults.

I don’t agree with a lot of his points, and most of that comes from the fact that 1) I am a female with a large hatred of weakness (in whatever form that may be), and 2) I grew up with a family full of female leaders of the home, and most of my skills were taught to me by the women.

My mother worked a full time job, but she had good and well established connections with other people and family members. So on the days where she couldn’t be there to pick us up from school for another hour or so, she had help from family members and trusted friends who’s kids we were buddies with to help her out. And when she’d come home, we almost never went without a home cooked meal, and helped us with anything we needed physically. We lived rurally, and my mother always emphasised that family came first, family is always there even if you lose all of your friends or fall into a bad relationship, and no matter where we go or what we do we can come home if we need to.

Her only negative thing was being a narcissist, and focusing too much on our physical needs and not being able to be there emotionally. Everything else, she was a good mum and she got shit done for her family.

When I was just a toddler, she actually told my grandma (dad’s side) to get out of our house when she was babysitting me and my sibling. We were playing outside and my grandmother yelled at and hit my sibling just because she slid down the slide when it was wet. If memory serves me right my grandmother didn’t babysit us again until we were in our teen years. (For context, my grandma is xtian and still goes to church).

Making Women Great again,one at a time. Hurrah!!!

I can not only sow fabric but also metal with fire

That's a very handy skill during the Apocalypse.

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Indeed it is. I always tell people the ones who work with their hands will be the ones who thrive and help rebuild society If everything goes to shit..people who sit behind comps and desks won't know their asses from a hold in the ground

I laugh at the decadent tards who look down on or who think they are too good for blue collar work.

Don't talk back to the person that thinks he can tell his wife what to do and order her around. The person who takes personal achievement, and working out as a woman as 'feminism'. Or even just having a job in a male dominated field. Like even politics or warfare, technical jobs.

When something is done by a woman usually, it doesn't have to mean its a woman 'only' business. Heck they even tried to get rid of our way of making money and being able to be independent, which was often in the sewing industry.

There's not much of a sewing industry anymore nowadays though. At least not within the country.

*quotes on stats with birth rates and “she-economy”*
*stats image*

Thank you jews for giving women independence. Hurrah!!!

*image of trump*

Enjoy the Independence.

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

If my overall message is making you feel bad and making you question your self worth as a woman ,then it is probable that you are infact of low self worth and everything I say is just confirmation. Its not me making you feel bad, its you yourself because you know what I'm saying is true but you don't want to accept it and in order to shift blame ,you're changing guilt into hatred unconsciously.

If you accepted it and let go of your feelings, then all your judgments about your self worth would go away. Because now you've accepted your faults ,and only after you've accepted that you were wrong can you change and heal yourself. Otherwise the perpetual suffering from lack of psychological strength will persist indefinitely.

 

[tabby]

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I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum

haha I’ve never heard someone use the word “fatassery” before :lol:

WHAT?! Dude! Oh man, you’re making me hungry. Ok proposal, one day after all this crazy shit - cook out, I’ll make the desserts and you make the main meal - what do ya say?

jrvan mentioned getting together for Oktoberfest lol.

 

[tabby]

steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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Actually tabby I was thinking that I am kind of sorry for causing this mess because I opened my mouth.

But thats all. I wouldn't have liked to see the person that thinks this way to keep replying on here for his own self validation or something like that.

You have no reason to be sorry, you didn't actually cause this. I looked back at your first comment about Jack. You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat (not even talking to the guy directly), then continued to mention the connections between the sewing industry and women's independence (which was still very relevant to the OP. Gaining back the skill of sewing would actually be very good to empower women with and help to raise them out of the slave state in society that the jews have put them in).

Jack didn't make any statement or complaint about your feelings towards him until much later when it was convenient to do so as an excuse for his treatment towards others who did nothing wrong. Instead he commented with statistics about how women's so-called "independence" under the jews has caused the downfall of the society and lowered birth rates, and made a snide remark about women. From there it was a giant rant about women's (false) independence in society being the reason the world is going to shit and why the white race will die off in the next whatever years.

jrvan tried to have Jack understand that you weren't talking about the radical feminism version of "independence", to which Jack only continued to push his views completely unrelated to sewing and SS women. A few of us tried to reason with the guy to have him understand that a number of his points were not accurate, but apparently not agreeing with him means we're "guilty", and pointing out his toxicity, uncalled-for insults, and behaviour makes us "feminists".

Przebiśnieg expressed her feelings about how Jack has caused her to feel from his words and past actions towards women, to which instead of taking responsibility for himself and how he has hurt people, tried to claim that it was because she "probably" has low self worth instead and telling her the reason she feels hurt is because of guilt and not accepting what he says or some bullshit. He put her down and then tried to say that she's the problem. That's manipulative behaviour usually found in extreme narcissists to drive the person they hurt to think that everything the other person is doing to them is because it's their fault, while the bully never takes the responsibility themselves. That kind of shit can drive a person insane to the point they'll attack themselves out of conditioned patterns if it gets bad enough. It's not ok.

The excuse that words can't hurt because it's a digital forum is also just a bullshit excuse for him to continue to belittle people (women especially it seems) whenever he wants and then turn around and say "if you don't like what I say you can just block me". No responsibility taken, no change in behaviour and actions. Same thing continues over and over again.

The entire thread derailed after just those two comments of his. I tried to keep things on track by prioritising the comments related to the actual OP, but it began to really piss me off especially when he outright insulted you and Przebiśnieg for no reason with only the excuse that you insulted him first (which didn't happen in the first place).

Now he claims women are not even his audience yet he preaches all this bullshit under a post only talking about sewing with mostly female SS engaging and just blows up the thread, insulting SS females, while never contributing anything to the OP.

All you said was "independence" paired with "women" in a paragraph talking about sewing, and he got triggered and derailed the thread to talk about low birth rates, belittle women and and preach his prophesies of the fate of the world. So no, you didn't create this mess. Only catalysed something that was bound to happen at some point under a thread relating to mostly women whether we tried to avoid it or not. From what I've seen, Jack is drawn like a moth to a flame whenever a thread gets a bit too feminine in energy for his taste.

Thank you for breaking it down like that, the order the events have happened.

I was wondering about narcissism (in relation to Jack) before fyi ...

I am not looking for fights, and when I tried to talk to Shadow about it in the first place, I was careful in expressing myself. If he takes it as an issue, its his problem.

Anyway, I hope we can leave this all behind soon, and I also want to say, good job in trying to get this topic back to what its supposed to be about

 

[High Priest Hooded Cobra 666]

Bringing the generalized rules of random women you met somewhere and repeating them like a robot, as if they are "universal patterns" that also affect women here, is rather stupid. Basically just incompatible with the current environment here.

I doubt any woman of the caliber you speak and always pre-occupy your time over [because to have constructed such a perception of the world, you focus on the majority of them]. Also, stop reading the rants of Happa Anglin that had to go all the way to Thailand to find the weakest woman on earth to get some sex, because these are have seriously damaged your judgement.

...

I decided to change my reply and make it even less smarter.

Stop chasing women around in the forum and trying to find a single line where they say something where you want to guilt trip them over whatever happens in the world collectively. They aren't really trying to contribute to this.

Also, if a feminist was running rampant in the forums trying to find a single line from men to blame them for what they consider "PROVEN AND BEYOND REFUTATION" such as the payment gap, or the glass ceiling, they would have been booted for cucking men and destroying men. According to her, that would be "Improving men!" here.

In the same way, if you repeat the same corrosive blame shifting towards women as specific individuals here, for things they didn't explicitly really do, this makes no difference other than a bad atmosphere.

If you cannot explain a point while isolating a single line and blaming another person for all the world's sins, then leave this to others to explain who can.

This thread was about sewing and somehow it went over to birthrates based on a single line by Lunar that wasn't even anything that bad in what she said.

While the sense of urgency is understood, do consider how this goes, and don't really pretend this is a very logical thing to do.

It's also making the solutions to these problems seem and look even more repulsive, and kikes have been doing the very same thing consistently, with promoting dogshit christian "Traditionalism" that is hated on every level by most people, and then promoting rampant Marxism and postmodernism to cause a clash into their head, disabling them. Which end of the line one is, is equally shit.

 

[Shadowcat]

In my opinion, unless there is financial tension, one should either be a mother, or a worker, not both.

I think it's fine if you can work from home, especially if it's something you enjoy such as painting, writing or making clothes.
Either way, taking time off during and after pregnancy makes sense.

That for me would be fucking awesome as i like all of those things. i do drawings though not paintings. if it would make a good size stable income and let me work from home i would change my daytime job in a heartbeat, despite the fact that i do like being physically active and enjoy creating and doing what i do at work...but not the hazards that come with it. *looks at the burn on my wrist from the other day* :x . Flashburn is a bitch too and the worst. feels like a sunburn in the eyes. ive had metal slivers taken out of my eyes with a small knife...twice x.x. alot of accidents have been my own stupid fault though. i can be impulsive, too daring and accident prone. ty mars and sun lmao.

 

[Shadowcat]

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his first comment under this thread and his conversation to ShadowCat gave me the vibe this was going to happen whether I tried to avoid it or not.

Ohh lol i actually found my and jacks replys quite benign at that start, i was telling him about sewing metal with fire (welding) to which i was told is a handy skill to have when the world goes to shit...which it is lol. Lunar got upset at him, as shes had beef with him before i believe, and then he replied to her and it went from there. the rest i had given my two cents on objectively and detached as possible and left :?

i actually hoped it would help things calm down trying to give imput to the big picture and remain impartial but helass. i must say i never like it when SS bicker here but no one can be forced to like anyone nor is it realistic to agree with everythying someone says.

I’ll try explain my thinking here. There are a few things he said early on that became the cores of the rest of his comments which can be picked up on.

The first one “Making Women Great again, one at a time. Hurrah!!!”

Originally I had wanted to let him know that sewing is not a female only skill. Men can (and imo should) not be deterred from learning this skill simply because sewing in the mass mind is paired with being a feminine skill.

Men a long time ago were once the weavers of looms, until that role was transferred to women. Men also sewed things like corsets in the industry because it was incredibly labor intensive on the hands before they had machines to do it.

Sewing is valuable to anyone who has clothes on their back. At the very least, one should know how to mend and repair their own clothes. Fast fashion is really bad for the environment, and the moment a lot of people get a rip or hole in their clothes they throw it out.

Maybe I should have talked about darning too (I think I linked a video about it somewhere here in the thread).

But I left it alone since I felt I wasn’t understanding Jack’s comment. The wording and vibe seemed to mean something else other than what I wanted this thread to be about, so I avoided it hoping that things wouldn’t turn out the way I felt it was going to.

The next one referring to the apocalypse regarding your welding skills. All I could think was, why specifically the apocalypse? That kind of skill is really handy for the current society we live in now because of the increase in technology, cities, and what-have-you. What do you do if you don’t have access to the tools you need for metal working in an apocalyptic situation?

Side note: for survival sewing you can strip dry grass into threads and break a bone or use a stiff/sharp part of a plant or splinter to make a needle. You can make hand spindles to spin hair, fur, or grass into thread and make looms in the wild to weave “fabrics” for clothes. Leather and fur from animal hides are a quicker and less tedious way to stay warm and clothed (leather lasts a long time too and can act as an armour of sorts if the leather is thick enough. May not stop a bullet but it’s certainly better than being naked) - of course this is like really bare bones survival but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/KXHcPOpY1Co

I know none of his earlier responses to you were edgy or negative, and I can see that Lunar has a feud with the guy - I don’t blame her. Many things that Jack has said just in the time I’ve been here have made me do double-takes and feel uncomfortable.

But the key words on his part “apocalypse” and “Making Women Great again,one at a time” - followed by his reaction to Lunar and his first comment to Przebiśnieg (which really does look very manipulative and switching how she feels to mean something it doesn’t) set the stage for the rest of his comments which focused on the apparent apocalypse, degenerate women, women’s independence, and insults.

I don’t agree with a lot of his points, and most of that comes from the fact that 1) I am a female with a large hatred of weakness (in whatever form that may be), and 2) I grew up with a family full of female leaders of the home, and most of my skills were taught to me by the women.

My mother worked a full time job, but she had good and well established connections with other people and family members. So on the days where she couldn’t be there to pick us up from school for another hour or so, she had help from family members and trusted friends who’s kids we were buddies with to help her out. And when she’d come home, we almost never went without a home cooked meal, and helped us with anything we needed physically. We lived rurally, and my mother always emphasised that family came first, family is always there even if you lose all of your friends or fall into a bad relationship, and no matter where we go or what we do we can come home if we need to.

Her only negative thing was being a narcissist, and focusing too much on our physical needs and not being able to be there emotionally. Everything else, she was a good mum and she got shit done for her family.

When I was just a toddler, she actually told my grandma (dad’s side) to get out of our house when she was babysitting me and my sibling. We were playing outside and my grandmother yelled at and hit my sibling just because she slid down the slide when it was wet. If memory serves me right my grandmother didn’t babysit us again until we were in our teen years. (For context, my grandma is xtian and still goes to church).

I can not only sow fabric but also metal with fire

That's a very handy skill during the Apocalypse.

Don't talk back to the person that thinks he can tell his wife what to do and order her around. The person who takes personal achievement, and working out as a woman as 'feminism'. Or even just having a job in a male dominated field. Like even politics or warfare, technical jobs.

When something is done by a woman usually, it doesn't have to mean its a woman 'only' business. Heck they even tried to get rid of our way of making money and being able to be independent, which was often in the sewing industry.

There's not much of a sewing industry anymore nowadays though. At least not within the country.

*quotes on stats with birth rates and “she-economy”*
*stats image*

Thank you jews for giving women independence. Hurrah!!!

*image of trump*

Enjoy the Independence.

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

If my overall message is making you feel bad and making you question your self worth as a woman ,then it is probable that you are infact of low self worth and everything I say is just confirmation. Its not me making you feel bad, its you yourself because you know what I'm saying is true but you don't want to accept it and in order to shift blame ,you're changing guilt into hatred unconsciously.

If you accepted it and let go of your feelings, then all your judgments about your self worth would go away. Because now you've accepted your faults ,and only after you've accepted that you were wrong can you change and heal yourself. Otherwise the perpetual suffering from lack of psychological strength will persist indefinitely.

Ohh i see! I guess you learn something new everyday. i never knew about that with men and sewing in the past. Ofcouse, this is a very handy skill to have for anyone.

I grew up with similar family values, and my mother was always there for us as well. she and my father both taught us important things from a very early age which im grateful for. Dad however had a hard time being there emotionally but in other ways he was always there.

as for the rest of whats going on here i dont really have anything else to say, Other than that yes, it went off topic in a way it shouldn't have. It is what it is.

and I can see that Lunar has a feud with the guy - I don’t blame her. Many things that Jack has said just in the time I’ve been here have made me do double-takes and feel uncomfortable.

i am well aware that this counts for many people including some dudes here on the forum.

 

[Shadowcat]

steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Shadowcat]

...

I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum

haha I’ve never heard someone use the word “fatassery” before :lol:

WHAT?! Dude! Oh man, you’re making me hungry. Ok proposal, one day after all this crazy shit - cook out, I’ll make the desserts and you make the main meal - what do ya say?

jrvan mentioned getting together for Oktoberfest lol.

Aww man yall are making me hungry now! lmao I would love that haha. Heres to the day the enemy is gone where we can all drink and celebrate to standing on their ashes! Sooonnnn. :twisted:

Be prepared though for itisfood! >

 

[Shadowcat]

...
I looked back at your first comment about Jack. You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat (not even talking to the guy directly), then continued to mention the connections between the sewing industry and women's independence (which was still very relevant to the OP. Gaining back the skill of sewing would actually be very good to empower women with and help to raise them out of the slave state in society that the jews have put them in).
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Behavior to shadowcat? i dont believe that was me

I didn’t mean his behaviour to you as in how he treated you, I said “You expressed your feelings about the guy and his behaviour to ShadowCat” - the “to” here meaning talking to you about his past behaviour and her feelings about the guy.

Does that make sense?

ohh i see. must have read that one wrong :?

 

[NinRick]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

The majority of men think this way ,they're just afraid to say it due to the fear of being labeled misogynistic.

I totally disagree and I already told you a couple days ago that this goes too far.

 

[NinRick]

No one cares how you feel. If you're such effected by my words that just means that you agree with me and that you feel guilty about agreeing with me ,which Is why you have this irrational hate towards me.

If you didn't agree with me, that would make my message irrelevant to you. The only reason its hitting home is because its personal.

Also *womp* *womp*

What you wrote now was immature.
Besides, I didn't intented to attack you, only commented about my feelings towards some of yours post. I don't know, if you're feeling attacked by me or others here, but you need to understand, it's not only me who is thinking this way. Lots of people have criticized you here, and rightly so. They even tried to make you aware of what you are doing right now. They presented you their point of view, etc. but you seem to be blind or simply ingoring it. Maybe you think, that your ''truth'' is right, but it's not true. If you're making others people feel bad, maybe you should consider your behaviour and...I don't agree with a lot of things you said before. Like I said, sometimes you are making a good point and I agree with you, but sometimes you are writing weirds things.
And why are you talking about hating you all the time?
Yes, I disliked you before. It's truth, I don't intend to hide this.
Now I don't have this feeling anymore. I am not even sure, why your post had an effect on me. After reading from you today, I feel nothing, but pity. I still wish you the best, but you need to learn more about being a human.

And by the way...they seem to care about my feelings. You should learn more empathy from them. Good luck.

Speaking of pity,

I hate being a women.

Honestly, sometimes I think that being a women is the worst thing that happened to me. What is so good at being women?

Sed lyf

I always thought you were a Chad, but then you would not resort to this kind of tactics like this.

You know that has hurt her very deeply and that there are lasting scars because of that shit?

And you dare bringing this up, just to make you feel „stronger“ and „superior“. You purposely brought that up to hurt her, to make her feel like trash, just so you are above her in this situation.

Wow, fuck you Jack, fuck you.
Weak, weak, weak.

 

[tabby]

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Nothing that I've said can be disproven in any way whatsoever. All you've done is bring up specific instances of hypothetical scenarios and situations ,trying to make a moral case of what I'm saying is right or wrong. While I've specifically said from the beginning that I don't believe in "Right or Wrong" and that I'm just saying how the situation is and on a emotionless utilitarian and pragmatic approach.

I didn't derail this thread. Lunardance was the one who first tried to attack me, trying to paint me as a villain. I had to respond by presenting my point of view that everything I was saying was correct .And after I presented the facts everyone got pissed due to experiencing cognitive dissonance of being unable to accept reality (facts and statistics.)

I have not once gotten emotional. I've written everything from a purely rational, pragmatic perspective. I haven't once demeaned, insulted or personally attracted anyone. If anything the opposite is the case.

Everyone here has personally attacked me, wishing me I'll will in my personal life and wishing me romantic failure and called me all sorts of names. This is regardless of me already saying that I'm not personally talking about anyone and that I'm talking in generalities.

All you've shown is the inability to listen and agree with reality and immature behavior of personal attacks and insults and victim blaming.

Every single one of my points is based on facts and logic and reality. No matter what you personally have to say about reality, doesn't change reality.

Truth is Objective. Your appreciation of the Truth is Subjective. This is the delusional behavior of saying "my truth." There is no "my truth." Social behavior is judged based on Generalities and statistics of what the majority of people do, not what you personally believe is right and wrong.

And this doesn't have anything to do with Christianity . The entirety of Ancient history agrees with my view with hundreds of thousands of Philosophers and Statesmen making the exact same points that I have made. Just read the work of Plato and Socrates on the Topic of Women in Society. Read the views of Adolf Hitler and other prominent Nazis on the same. You are historically unaware of civilization . Female Independence and Promiscuity is a predictor of Civilizational collapse. Not just in Christian times. Every single Pagan civilization follows the same route where Female Independence and Promiscuity immediately follows civilizational collapse. Ancient Philosophers works would be considered borderline misogynistic and incendiary by you if you read them.

Not a single one of my points is inaccurate or wrong and your debating methods prove my point that women are more emotional than men and are on a balance of probabilities incapable of critical thinking.

All you've proven is that everything I've said is correct and your refusal to accept that reality. Your Contrarian revolt against pertinent facts and evidence is another reason why women can't be leaders and politicians. There were no Nazi party leaders who were involved in policy as women because Adolf Hitler knew that women can't accept logic and reason, and they only listen to emotion and peer pressure from the culture.

There is no biological difference between women in western society and those in Nazi Germany. They employed the same mass communication, propaganda and emotional persuasion albeit in different directions. Just like a society can manufacture worthless sluts ,a society can manufacture dutiful wives and mothers. The only difference is that the people in control must be willing to do the things that are required of them.

You're fighting me on every single point of fact that I'm presenting and making yourself look stupid because this is incontrovertible evidence. It doesn't matter what anyone's personal opinion is. The reality is the reality. Regardless of whether one is a SS "woman " or not ,you're still having the same points of contention across the board of all races who have been brought up by Feminism.

Women inherently desire Sexist men who feel that they have to protect women from themselves, take care of them and lead them in a relationship.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/why-women-including-feminists-are-still-attracted-to-benevolently-sexist-men-101067

Your appreciation of whether or not you like this or not is of no consequence as is your opinion that no self respecting woman should be like this. The fact of the matter is that your subjective interpretation of things are in direct conflict with actual reality. You are living in a delusional world of your own making. Women overwhelming desire men who treat them like a being that needs taking care of, that cannot be a leader or independent. They wanted to be taken care of. They want to leave responsibility over to the man to make tough decisions in life and life changing choices. You fighting me on this is simply you refusing to accept reality.

In the real world women who are high earners and independent are the unhappiest demographic of women in the United States.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/14/619338703/u-s-suicides-rates-are-rising-faster-among-women-than-men

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/women-and-prescription-drug-use_n_1098023

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy

So everyone here who is arguing against me is in direct conflict with lived in reality and is arguing just to make a point. Its like me arguing the Suns gaze shouldn't be Hot. I feel like the Suns Gaze should be cool .

It doesn't matter what I think is correct or wrong. Reality is reality, human biology is human biology.

There's nothing wrong with women wanting to be taken care of, not wanting to work and be dependent upon a man and give responsibility unto him. This is how the world worked since hundreds of thousands of years of human existence till the last century when Feminism and this idea of female financial and sexual independence was created out of the Marxist Frankfurt school.

When I say women, I am talking about the majority of women. And that constitutes reality. If you're fighting me on any of my points you're making a contrarian outlier argument that isn't based on reality.

Also ,I don't take responsibility for anything that I've said makes you feel any type of way. According to my Free Speech rights I can make any kind of incendiary and inflammatory speech that I like that doesn't involve specifics.

Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[1] The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action".[2][3]:702 Specifically, the Court struck down Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence

If that woman feels sad ,that's her problem. I'm not going to change my tone in anyway whatever just to appease someone else.

I never bring my personal opinion about topics related to Gender and Social issues because what I personally think don't matter.

For example I personally don't think that Jews should be in any kind of powerful position in any country and that they shouldn't be inside of any countries period. My personal view is that they should be shipped to Islands where they can't interact with other humans as we start thinking about methods of the Final Solution.

But regardless of my view, the fact is that jews are entrenched in any single political organization, company of lobbying groups ,scientific establishment, banking, media etc.

I personally like women who are submissive, hold the same positions ideologically that I do and are not combative ,gives me peace and isn't naggy and complaint, is fit like I am. Regardless of what you think about this woman I'm destined to meet this woman and she's destined to be my wife because that's what I'm attracted to and my RAS is pulling towards me. Your opinion here doesn't change the fact that I was meant to be the husband of a woman who was naturally born as submissive like I was born Dominant. Your judgment about what is good or bad has no bearing on the outcome. I have never coerced any woman to love me through any kind of manipulation. They know what I believe in and what I stand for.

This is similar to you saying that you do not like women who feel attracted to men who want to take care of them and don't want them to be independent or responsible in any significant way. Or that you don't like my view that women can't and don't want to be leaders, or work or be independent.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969#:~:text=Relative%20declines%20in%20female%20happiness,subjective%20well%2Dbeing%20for%20men.

Regardless of how you feel about these women ,the fact of reality is that they exist in the majority. That the majority of attractive men with good genes are Sexist and majority of humanity who haven't taken the vaccines and are going to inherit the earth after the defeat of the jews hold similar positions like I do on these topics.

Also I feel like I'm beating the skeleton of a dead horse that has decomposed and has since caught fire.

Pictured : Arguing with women is like beating the decomposed dead horse

I'm just doing this because I want to present to men the image that they should never be ashamed or bullied for wanting to speak facts, just because women will say "How Dare you. "

No matter what anyone says a man must always defend himself and not bend before social pressure. We must offend, we must make incendiary and extremist statements. We must push the overtone window because we must always put our ideals before our emotions. I never argue with women in relationships because I know women can't be argued with. The only way to change her mind is to change her emotions and then get her to agree using compliance ladders with what your saying. Arguing logically against a woman for something you want from her is like digging a grave for yourself to jump inside.

Also there is no need for me to tailor my message to women because they aren't going to take any action either way. It is the men who take action, who will lead the women in their personal lives and it is they who will impart value to a woman and the women will follow. The only demographic that needs to be convinced of what I'm saying is men across all cultures. And they will listen to ideological instructions and statistics and logic,not confusing emotional drivel.

I've laid all the facts and logic which aren't up for debate across the table and I implore everyone reading to come to a conclusion from the lens of critical thinking. Emotion is reserved for actions you take in your personal lives while dealing with another person. Ideological positions must always be based on reality, not your personal view of the world. That is my final message on this topic ,on this thread. Peace out.

I pity you, and the level of stupidity and self-projection within your comment here. Everything you've said can be applied directly to yourself and your behaviour under this thread. A thread that was never about you and your statistics and irrational view of the majority of the female sex. I have first hand experience of what it's like to be under sexist men. I also have first hand experience of real women, who were mothers, leaders, worked, and loved their men. And men who were fathers, kind, strong, loyal, and did not treat their women or children as something to dominate but something to nurture. I speak for my whole family, and that is a very large family. We weren't perfect as people, but the structure of my family and their values is something I am proud of.

You provide second hand statistics written by someone else. I provide knowledge gained personally. Tell me if that is illogical, nonfactual, and overly emotional? In statistics, everyone is just a number, everyone's the same. You call what we talk about irrelevant cases, when your own don't even make up enough numbers in the population to generalise the way you have about women. Life is more complicated than you make it appear to be. People are more complicated than you make them appear to be. Statistics don't reveal everything and they can be manipulated.

If you are oh so irrefutably right, logical and totally didn't derail this thread, and all of us including the High Priest according to your words are wrong, emotional, illogical and are at fault here, then what a strange reality you must live in, Jack.

For a guy that claims he is being rational, your actions don't say so. Something interesting I have come to find, those who turn their emotions to stone, shove them down, or cast them aside as unimportant, become more emotional, irrational, and uncaring than those who regularly express them.

Talk about sewing or make your own thread.

 

[NinRick]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Don’t say sorry to Jack.
Say something like „Fuck you Jack“
He was a Dick not you, nothing what happened was your fault at all. Life doesn’t always goes very smooth, it is not your fault. Nothing is your fault.

Good luck on path, friend.

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Fuck you Jack.
First you tell someone how to suicide using chemicals now this crap.
And yes, I never forget what you write, as I respected you. Emphasis on past tense.
This whole crap pisses me off.