Making clothes at home - For Meteor

[tabby]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

You can do metal working?! That’s so cool!

I love blue collar work.

It started with clubhouses when i was a kid. I was always dragging wood back and forth and collecting it from the junk sections of construction sites nearby. My mom made us ask if we could take it first lol. I had one other girl help me but she didnt care for it much and eventually stopped hanging out with me, but i got the neighborhood kids to help out who we were all friends with. i actually wanted to make a whole fucking ewok village in the backyard and my parents wouldnt have it :lol:. Well, at 18 wood turned into metal and the National Guard sent me to APG for AIT and i learned to be a machinist.

Lol i remember being in the recuruiters office when i enlisted and he asked me "what do you want your MOS to be?" then i said "i wanna make weapons" sigh my naive self

so machinist was the closest thing to that. thats how i got in the metal industry. later on i started welding :3. they make pretty good money as long as they do the job right and are good. fabshop sucks, fieldwork and refineries is where its at. always something different.

Dude, you're really freaking cool haha.

Thanks lol

I just emailed those pics of my messed up blanket to see the stitches..along with pics of my welding work . Let me know what you think!

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

 

[tabby]

It's unfortunate that this thread went so off-topic with all that irrelevant political nonsense. It's as jrvan said, some people use numbers to paint whatever picture they want, regardless of the actual reality of a situation. They care more about the reality they made up in their mind anyway, so I doubt that bothers them. But it's still frustrating to see such confidence paired with severe misunderstandings.

That aside, thank you again, tabby. I got some deadlines dealt with, so I have a bit more time and am now buying the stuff I need.
On that note,
When looking for cheap fabrics, I found polycotton (cotton mixed with polyester). Have you tried it before? If so, what's your thoughts on it? I read online that it has the benefits of both fabrics (durable but still soft and breathable) and it's cheaper than pure cotton, but I'm wondering if it would be suitable for clothes that make direct contact with the skin, such as pyjamas. What do you think?

I should probably just buy some to see for myself how it feels, but I was wondering if you have any experience with it.

It’s freaky to me that one of the types of topics that sets my teeth on edge just happens to over take my OP... *sighs*.

Anyway.

My only experience with polycotton is some old shirts that have that fabric blend (usually 60% cotton, 40% polyester). I’ve never worked with it before so I don’t know what it’s like to sew with. I much prefer natural fabrics.

Once in school, we made pyjama pants and I think it was a synthetic fabric (most likely straight up polyester), but I barely remember what it was like to work with. I had some trouble with the sewing machine but I think that was more an issue of my then-lacking skills with sewing machines rather than the fabric itself.

This is me personally, but I find that I sweat more and get too hot in a polycotton blend shirt than just 100% cotton. Polyester is made from plastic so imagine wrapping yourself in plastic wrap and then pin-pricking a bunch of holes to try make it semi “breathable”. You could probably find cotton sheets for cheap and repurpose them into clothes. I’ve seen videos of people using things like that from thrift stores to make their clothes. It’s a good money saver.

But yeah, probably a good idea to get a sample fabric and experiment a bit. Your body might react differently to a blend like that than mine does.

[I’d always recommend getting a sample of the fabrics you’re thinking of working with.]

Sorry I can’t help you further with that.

 

[Reyra]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Yes, I know there is a lot of kind and wise people here. I don't comment too much, but I was observing this forum from a really long time. Thank you for this topic, someone already shared this with me, so I had read this already. I know you're right. Sometimes I am just being sensitive, so don't worry about it. And you know what, I actually love to doing stuff like cooking, baking, cleaning. I even want to have a lot of children, because I got a soft spot for them. And if I would have a husband, I would like to take care of him and make him smile every day, I really would. But I know too, if I would meet a man like Jack, I would escape from him really quickly, seriously.

Sorry this thread turn out like this, it should be only about sewing. This is my mistake too, I should have bite my tongue and just comment about your post, not him. This is the last time, just wanted to reply to your kind words.

And back to the sewing. I'm not sure if anyone has asked you about it before (if someone did, then maybe I forgotten), but you seem to know a lot about sewing. Is the sewing machine difficult? As I wrote before, I have always used my hand. I am thinking of buying one, but want to know if it is easy to use.
I want to teach my sister too, she is eleven years old and she seems to gotten interested in this, but I am not sure where should I start with her. Any advice?

 

[tabby]

It started with clubhouses when i was a kid. I was always dragging wood back and forth and collecting it from the junk sections of construction sites nearby. My mom made us ask if we could take it first lol. I had one other girl help me but she didnt care for it much and eventually stopped hanging out with me, but i got the neighborhood kids to help out who we were all friends with. i actually wanted to make a whole fucking ewok village in the backyard and my parents wouldnt have it :lol:. Well, at 18 wood turned into metal and the National Guard sent me to APG for AIT and i learned to be a machinist.

Lol i remember being in the recuruiters office when i enlisted and he asked me "what do you want your MOS to be?" then i said "i wanna make weapons" sigh my naive self

so machinist was the closest thing to that. thats how i got in the metal industry. later on i started welding :3. they make pretty good money as long as they do the job right and are good. fabshop sucks, fieldwork and refineries is where its at. always something different.

Dude, you're really freaking cool haha.

Thanks lol

I just emailed those pics of my messed up blanket to see the stitches..along with pics of my welding work . Let me know what you think!

I saw them before bed yesterday, don't worry. I think I know what's going on with the stitches but I will go over them today again just to be sure. The main issue I feel could be that the blanket is quite weighty (since it looks to be double layered) for the stitching you've used. You'll need a stronger stitch.

Home life has been a little unorganised, so hoping to respond back to you with more details tonight via email.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thanks for reposting! i really enjoyed this as well

 

[tabby]

In my opinion, unless there is financial tension, one should either be a mother, or a worker, not both.

I think it's fine if you can work from home, especially if it's something you enjoy such as painting, writing or making clothes.
Either way, taking time off during and after pregnancy makes sense.

Things like that, sure thing, it's also a good thing. But when a mother literally wants to abbandon her kids in a kindergarden just to pursue her corporate job and feel like a "strong and independent" woman that's just retarded and selfish.

I agree with you Aquarius. Working at the detriment of your children rather than the benefit is pretty stupid. You have responsibility for that child.

Sewing would definitely be a great job to have at home for a woman. If she has kids she would be able to teach them how to sew as she works, and they can learn from and watch her as she does. Then suddenly you have a new generation of kids that get to learn an ancient skill. Having a digital marketplace also really helps with working from home, and the woman can sell things she sews from home without having to leave her kids alone by themselves.

So that's actually a good example of how working from home even if the woman has kids to look after can benefit the children in turn without them being neglected.

Come to think of it, if more women learnt such skills that they can do at home and use for work at home, this would be really good for a home schooling program for any children she has as well. The kids would even be able to learn marketing skills and customer skills if she makes things to sell online. The woman gets to be realistically independent while still being there to help out her family by providing knowledge through skills they'll need in life.

Lock downs funny enough have made people realise just how many jobs can be done from home.

 

[Reyra]

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Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

 

[Jack]

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Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

No one cares how you feel. If you're such effected by my words that just means that you agree with me and that you feel guilty about agreeing with me ,which Is why you have this irrational hate towards me.

If you didn't agree with me, that would make my message irrelevant to you. The only reason its hitting home is because its personal.

Also *womp* *womp*

 

[Jack]

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It’s freaky to me that one of the types of topics that sets my teeth on edge just happens to over take my OP... *sighs*.

Reading things like that sometimes makes me wonder if I should be a feminist, but then I remember that I hate modern "feminists" even more. They're just a bunch of misandristic marxists and anarchists these days, as devoid of morality and true understanding as those I wish to oppose. What I really want is for the entire world population to accurately understand the nuances of every situation without jumping to conclusions or misunderstanding anything, and act in a fair manner based on that understanding. So when I see any kind of delusional extremist, left or right, it saddens me quite a bit as I realise I'm asking for a lot.

Even so, I've always believed that I should put my ideals first when determining what's right or wrong. And I know that despite what he says, no more than a small minority will ever be moved by his emotionless ideals. The problems he describes aren't even things that I've ever seen in real life where I live, which could be because I'm surrounded by good and reasonable people, but still. If more people are like those around me, ideological poison of any blend will never be able to take hold. Many people, even I, tend to stay stuck in their own stubborn ways to an extent because that is simply their nature; but even then there's enlightenment to be had. Through the personal growth of millions of men and women, if not billion in time, this world will surely become a better place.

Since this discussion unfortunately took place in this thread, I'll have to rely on the foe system for the time being to avoid getting distracted. I'm sorry for rambling so much, it's just that these things were on my mind and I wanted to get them off my chest.

Now to get back on topic,

My only experience with polycotton is some old shirts that have that fabric blend (usually 60% cotton, 40% polyester). I’ve never worked with it before so I don’t know what it’s like to sew with. I much prefer natural fabrics.

Once in school, we made pyjama pants and I think it was a synthetic fabric (most likely straight up polyester), but I barely remember what it was like to work with. I had some trouble with the sewing machine but I think that was more an issue of my then-lacking skills with sewing machines rather than the fabric itself.

This is me personally, but I find that I sweat more and get too hot in a polycotton blend shirt than just 100% cotton. Polyester is made from plastic so imagine wrapping yourself in plastic wrap and then pin-pricking a bunch of holes to try make it semi “breathable”. You could probably find cotton sheets for cheap and repurpose them into clothes. I’ve seen videos of people using things like that from thrift stores to make their clothes. It’s a good money saver.

I read the same thing after looking into it more, that it's not breathable enough when it's hot. I also had the same idea of trying to use sheets as well if it's too hard to find anything. For now I'll keep looking though.

When looking for fabrics, I also saw modal and viscose fabrics and saw that they're recommended for things like pyjamas, so I might just pay a bit extra and use those instead. It'll be my first project so I'm going with a simple design and I doubt it'll look oustanding, but I want to make sure it's comfortable to wear at least. As I thought, something like polycotton won't do for that purpose.

I made a new thread to continue the side discussion about birth rates and other related topics which are not relevant to sewing.

It's right here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60814

I just saw this, thank you so much. I thought of making a new thread as well but decided against it because I don't want to get involved.

The majority of people who are right wingers (anyone who is against the Globalists) believe in what I'm saying and they are already mentally dedicated to some from of self preservation. And even if a minority of men might not have the mental affinity, they will all have to let go of their emotions and dedicate their lives for the greater good and agree with what I'm saying and what the majority of Anti Globalists (and haven't taken the vaccine, will inherit the earth) believe to be true when the push comes to shove.

 

[tabby]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Yes, I know there is a lot of kind and wise people here. I don't comment too much, but I was observing this forum from a really long time. Thank you for this topic, someone already shared this with me, so I had read this already. I know you're right. Sometimes I am just being sensitive, so don't worry about it. And you know what, I actually love to doing stuff like cooking, baking, cleaning. I even want to have a lot of children, because I got a soft spot for them. And if I would have a husband, I would like to take care of him and make him smile every day, I really would. But I know too, if I would meet a man like Jack, I would escape from him really quickly, seriously.

Sorry this thread turn out like this, it should be only about sewing. This is my mistake too, I should have bite my tongue and just comment about your post, not him. This is the last time, just wanted to reply to your kind words.

And back to the sewing. I'm not sure if anyone has asked you about it before (if someone did, then maybe I forgotten), but you seem to know a lot about sewing. Is the sewing machine difficult? As I wrote before, I have always used my hand. I am thinking of buying one, but want to know if it is easy to use.
I want to teach my sister too, she is eleven years old and she seems to gotten interested in this, but I am not sure where should I start with her. Any advice?

I guess it doesn't hurt to have the link here given how this thread has gone, either way.

I know what you mean. Cooking is a major stress relief for me, and it's a joy whenever someone says "this is so good!" and asks for seconds haha. When something I create makes others happy, I'm happy. Once for a school project we had to design and sew book bags for kids at the preschool nearby. My class was assigned to one kid each, and had to make a bag based on things that they liked (fav. colours, animals, toys, interests, etc). I still remember the little boy who I was assigned to make one for, and the way his face lit up when I gave him his book bag. That was a project that made me really proud as a budding seamstress. It's things like that that fill my heart and desire to have kids even more myself one day.

Yeah, I agree. If I was single and looking for a guy to settle down with, Jack would not even be on my list of considerations.

*shrugs* what can you do? If it didn't happen here, it's likely it would have happened somewhere else on another thread.
I think it's a good thing that you did. How can anyone be made aware of how they make others feel if no one speaks up about it? Even if he doesn't listen to anything we say, it's better to speak up and try to bring awareness to the fact that he is making others feel uncomfortable and unwelcome as women. For me personally, down right angry. Otherwise he's just going to keep going on and on in the echo chamber he's created for himself.

I haven't used a sewing machine since high school, and I struggled with them a bit. It took some time getting comfortable with one since I started with hand sewing for years before hand but I did manage to make some cool projects (such as aforementioned book bag project) with the school ones despite some issues at times. I was pre-teens when I first learnt how to use a sewing machine, and I always fell back on hand stitching whenever I'd chicken out trying to use the machine for trickier projects haha. The peddle speed use to freak me out sometimes. It took some practice and patience but once I learned how to thread the machine, and pair it with some good ol' practice to build up my confidence, it became pretty easy. There are tutorials online for different sewing methods with hand stitching so I don't think it's far fetched to say there are probably just as many tutorials for how to use a sewing machine, and the methods to use with different projects. (When I buy myself a sewing machine I'll probably be looking up these things up as well :lol: ).

Sewing machines come in a lot of different brands and models, so find one that best suits what you want to make and your skill level. Before I made this thread I had no idea the kinds of things you should look for with a sewing machine so I'll refer you to an earlier comment by Lunar Dance 666 that helped me out:

I got one from Toyota right now. Do not recommend. I cannot adjust the stich length in between stitches. Whilst it does come with some 'decorative' options, because of the above thing, there's just too much space in between the points making them look rather ugly if you ask me. I don't use them.
I can sew with a bit of a 'wider' stitch and a bit of a 'smaller' stitch but thats all just preset. Once this thing breaks down Im going to get a Singer again. I had a kinda old, quite heavy industrial one, but that one was worn down a bit too much. Also the electric pedal was having issues with the connections, you'd easily press too far on it and it'd go too fast.
Also an issue that I have with my current one so I either turn the thing around so I can dose better or move de heel of my foot up a bit more. It stars on an angle, and just like a leverage beam, the further out you go, the bigger the impact. Yet you're pressing on the smallest part.
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Yikes, I’ll keep that noted then. Does the Singer models allow for smaller stitches that are close together? If the stitches themselves are smaller and tight together, then that’ll make for a much stronger stitch. Much neater too if you had good control with keeping stitching straight.

It makes me wonder what brand the sewing machines were that we used back in school. They were quite big and bulky but we were able to do a lot of different sewing projects on them without too many issues. The speed control was terrible, you had to be pretty gentle on the peddle to keep your stitching from being really wonky. The thread also broke constantly if you went just a bit too fast.
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This is the model that I used to have. I figured it'd be easier to show you and tell you whats what, than to explain it.
Here's a link for a user manual for its previous model:
http://sewingonline.co.uk/machines/singer257/

I bet you can find one for the model 258 online, but back when I had it, I could not.

Basicly, on the top left, above the needle, is a wheel that you use to adjust the pressure of the foot on your fabric.
(In my toyota thats an 'automatic' thing or in other words: Only one setting)
Then on the top right you have the place where your thread goes, and also right next to it the place where you can let the machine wind the thread on the spool for the underneath part.
I forgot exactly where the light switch was (is also the power button) its either on the right bottom next to the pug with the pedal attached to it, or on the back.
Then on the blue part, in which it Says Singer, from left to right:
Adjust stich width, Adjust where the needle goes, I think the last one might be the option for patchworking. or making embroidery. I've never used it tbh.
Then you have the small turning knob on the left. This is for adjusting the top pressure on the thread. If your thread breaks or snaps, you need to lessen the tension. Also do a presew on the fabric that you want to sew together. If the thread lays almost like a straight line on top, you need to lessen the tension, if the thread lays like a straight line on the bottom or has loops (which has happened a couple times to me, I've also ended up with knots a couple of times) you might need to adjust the tension on top and rewire the bottom.
Then on the big knob on the right is how to adjust the stitch length. (This is also non adjustable on Toyota, pretty much, it has a couple preset settings and you can't do anything else with it :/)

The handle to pull the foot up and down is at the back of the needle. You can't see it in this picture.

There's also an option up top, to put a pattern disk in. Then the machine would adjust the needle according to the pattern disk you put in, and you'd be able to sew said pattern.
I don't think I can show you an example of that though. :/ sorry.

But like I said, once this toyota is worn out (or perhaps I might sell it as a second hand) I'll go back to a Singer.
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Honestly for a long time, I thought all sewing machines were the same haha.

So basically find the right sewing machine that suits your needs and skill, practice on spare fabrics, go slow and you'll be just fine.

Hmm, 11 yrs old... Depending on her hand-eye-coordination skills and finger dexterity, I would recommend to start with hand sewing personally. This would help to develop and build up a really good foundation for her skills so that if she wants to start a project but doesn't have access to a machine, then she has a good back up. Especially for the tight spots in a project that are safer to do by hand than machine. There are sewing machines for beginners, and I've seen people talk about how they bought sewing machines for their kids, so she can definitely learn on a machine at her age if you're both comfortable with that.

Start with simple projects that will help develop her skills (machine or hand sewing), and can be completed in a day or two. For anyone starting something new, certainly for young kids, keeping up their motivation through quicker projects that are fun and engaging will keep them interested and continue to develop their skills for bigger projects. Simple stitch embroidery, plushies, circle skirts (very easy as a clothing option to make, and fun to twirl in - though it will require you to do a little math to make the right measurements), custom pillows/pillow cases, blankets, simple tote bag or book bag, finger puppets, etc, if she's interested in things like that.

As a kid, I found the most fun projects were making my own toys and the best part is you get to play with them afterwards. Even if it's not perfect but she still feels proud and happy after finishing a project and has the sparked desire to make more things, then you know you've done something right.

Ask your sister what she would like to make, let her design it if she wants, and you can go from there.

Here's an example of a circle skirt - info about it starts at around 6:40 min in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnNlX5_KPXs

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

*hugs prez*
There is a list where you can add friend or foe to in settings.

A lot of things used to affect me when I was younger. But I am mentally much stronger now than I was back then. I am not wrong and I should stop questioning myself and comparing myself to the "normal" people that are around. If you want to be extraordinary, then look for the people and things that uplift you. The extraordinary people that came before you, and those that are increasingly working on improving themselves, to be the best they can be.

Also you're welcome on joining in the chat about sewing, if it interests you.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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Hey tabby, I was wondering if you had any books or recommendations on drawing your own patterns. I did get a book as a present once and I tried to follow its instructions but the formula for one of the measurements were off, and I got stuck there. And I haven't done anything with it since.

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I wanted to add here, that I bought a nice top for in the heat of summer (speaking 30 C humid weather) which turned out to be polyester. It felt a little scratchy and didn't feel nearly as breatheable as any cotton I'd wear. Even a tshirt of some kind of viscose elasthan blend or something feels like it's more breathable than that thing.

At first I was thinking I'll take the pattern off of it and donate it but I think I might just replace the poly part of it with some cotton fabric. It does have lace on top and straps. Not sure if the lace part is polyester though. I think I'd like to try and remove the color of the lace though. And make the shirt part a different color too.

Oh ye I saw someone on youtube going to the thrift store, buying second hand bedsheets and turning those into clothes. Also great for mock-ups. Why hadn't I thought of it, lol? Learned many things from just watching people sew on youtube. Makes me want to sew again (I haven't really sewn much so far though).

 

[Reyra]

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

I understand how you feel. The guy has said some really edgy and shocking things in the past. He says things sometimes which even shock me. This was one notable example that I remember:

Let's say that this girl progressively comes to realize that you two may not be the right match, but every time she tries to bring up the issue you just brush it away, because by then you have committed "fanatically" to her and so if she has such thoughts she is wrong and you have to get these wrong thoughts out of her. Do you see how that might put the two of you on a dangerous slope? Especially considering your comment that you would cause her intense suffering for life if she ever cheated on you, and presumably to the other man as well who may not even know about you. That fanaticism might end up destroying 3 lives.

The girl should understand how important commitment is to you, but you shouldn't let that trump everything else. It is important to remain open to what's going on around you, to how the other person feels, and not decide for them how they should feel, otherwise she might become your unwilling slave afraid to leave for fear of intense torture.

What you describe seems to stem from the fear of abandonment, and I think you would get more fruitful and lasting results by working on overcoming that fear, rather than by subjecting your future partner to its spell. Otherwise you might end up in the mindset that she is your property, that you can do whatever you please with her, including ignoring how she feels. Don't forget to care about her and to listen.

If you tell her how important loyalty is to you and she still cheats on you then she wasn't the right one, no need for the "cause intense suffering for life" part. But if you are in a healthy relationship this shouldn't happen. And if she tried to explain to you for a while how she feels but you wouldn't listen, then you are partly responsible too.


(first post here hello everyone, I made a thread but it hasn't been approved yet)

By committing to life, I mean marriage. And if she won't agree to the terms I state, I'll simply not marry her. I'll have our astrological compatibility checked ,and it's highly unlikely that a strong astrologically compatible couple will break apart based on whimsical feelings.

Most people are confused and uncertain about everything in life. And they listen to what i have to say because I give them purpose and hope. If I ever start contemplating of dedicating my life to one woman, I'll make sure to turn her into the ideological soldier she's meant to be. Once she becomes like me, she won't ever be very focused or driven by feelings but by her commitment to me and to our religion. I'm not just a counterpart, I'm a teacher and leader authority figure in the same way. The Sanskrit word for teacher is "Swami" and it can be alternatively used in many regional languages to mean "Husband." I won't marry or commit to anyone who is having strong unwavering opinions contrary to me because that's idiotic to do.

Most women or men in general do not have strong opinions about anything in life. So I don't think itll be a very hard job to find someone compatible without strong opinions and condition her into getting my opinions and hold on to them unconditionally. And one of those conditioning processes would be to Trump commitment to everything else.

This is a boomeresque thing where they put importance to their transient feelings instead of their behavior and ideology. They doomed this world by their whimsical feelings.

And if it's someone who is just in a relationship with me and I haven't committed to her, but she betrays me knowing about my conditions which is improbable , she will get what she deserves. Actions have consequences and punishment must be handed down. The guy will suffer as well as the girl. If she wanted to opt out ,she could just say so. But an implicit betrayal is an attack on me which I have to retaliate. And there's absolutely no way that anyone I've vetted and moulded into an ideological soldier of mine will ever betray me and so its just can't happen in a marriage type situation.

If all of this is sounding strange, then its because I don't feel the same love that you do and so your version of love doesn't exist for me. I feel love in the Dominance and Submission way and so I can only feel it in this way. I can't forgive or forget and I can't love unconditionally another person.

^ I don't know how any sane individual could read that as well as sensing the energy vibe, and not think it's psychopathic.

Anyway, he seems oblivious to me. I don't know how to penetrate that level of unawareness and self assurance that he's right. I don't think anyone can reach him. But now he has had a few women let it be known what they think of him, and that he makes people uncomfortable. If it were me, and many wise people from various walks of life were all reacting to me the same way and giving the same general feedback, then I wouldn't cling to the assumption that I'm right and every single one of them is wrong. I would consider the idea that maybe I'm wrong, and meditate on what is being told to me.

But I'm not Jack. I can't do Jack's thinking for him. If he believes that he is right then he's not going to change his mind, but he is going to have to simply accept that his actions cause people to dislike him. I think the biggest irony here would be if he feels the same way, that we are the fools who won't consider his side nor listen to what he is saying even though we proved otherwise. If he truly feels unheard then I'm going to laugh. It's not at all the case that people haven't considered his side and point of view. Especially since you kind of have to understand someone's argument as best as you can in order to make an effective counterargument.

Shadowcat, Tabby, and others have shown through their recounted experiences and wisdom of the world that numbers don't explain everything. There are many factors which are unaccounted for by the numbers and stats.

Yes, I remember having read this as well. This was weird to read.
But what can you do about this? Right now he won't change his view no matter how many people would try to talk to him. You see for yourself how things turned out.
Yeah, I'm like this too. When I think I'm right on something, but many people are telling me otherwise, I spend time to thinking about, if what I said was right. Always trying to consider others perspective, experience and wisdow. I learned a lot from people. Trying to understand others arguments. Just like you said above. After all, I'm young and still learning.
Exactly, your actions have consequences. I thinks he knows that as well, but it seems it doesn't bother him. I admire your and tabby patience. You tried, but it turned out as it came out. Actually, I felt bad that I made this first comment on him. I thought it was unecessery, but now I see it that it was needed, because from what I see, I am not the only one, who agree with his behaviour.

 

[Reyra]

I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves.

If you go onto his profile, you can click the option "add foe". It will automatically hide all of his posts while you're logged in.
When I was younger I used to think that things like blocking or ignoring someone are signs of weakness, but I realised over time that some things just really aren't worth reading, no matter how you look at it. It's pleasant not to be distracted by such things.

Good to know that here is an option to do it, thank you for letting me know. I will consider whether I will block him later. When I was a child, I never really had that thought. When someone annoyed me, I just ignored or didn't respond. I only reacted when someone tried to attack me physically. Back then, I was more physically fit than I am now. Now I have a trouble to open car door or bottle, lol.

 

[Reyra]

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

Yes, I know there is a lot of kind and wise people here. I don't comment too much, but I was observing this forum from a really long time. Thank you for this topic, someone already shared this with me, so I had read this already. I know you're right. Sometimes I am just being sensitive, so don't worry about it. And you know what, I actually love to doing stuff like cooking, baking, cleaning. I even want to have a lot of children, because I got a soft spot for them. And if I would have a husband, I would like to take care of him and make him smile every day, I really would. But I know too, if I would meet a man like Jack, I would escape from him really quickly, seriously.

Sorry this thread turn out like this, it should be only about sewing. This is my mistake too, I should have bite my tongue and just comment about your post, not him. This is the last time, just wanted to reply to your kind words.

And back to the sewing. I'm not sure if anyone has asked you about it before (if someone did, then maybe I forgotten), but you seem to know a lot about sewing. Is the sewing machine difficult? As I wrote before, I have always used my hand. I am thinking of buying one, but want to know if it is easy to use.
I want to teach my sister too, she is eleven years old and she seems to gotten interested in this, but I am not sure where should I start with her. Any advice?

I guess it doesn't hurt to have the link here given how this thread has gone, either way.

I know what you mean. Cooking is a major stress relief for me, and it's a joy whenever someone says "this is so good!" and asks for seconds haha. When something I create makes others happy, I'm happy. Once for a school project we had to design and sew book bags for kids at the preschool nearby. My class was assigned to one kid each, and had to make a bag based on things that they liked (fav. colours, animals, toys, interests, etc). I still remember the little boy who I was assigned to make one for, and the way his face lit up when I gave him his book bag. That was a project that made me really proud as a budding seamstress. It's things like that that fill my heart and desire to have kids even more myself one day.

Yeah, I agree. If I was single and looking for a guy to settle down with, Jack would not even be on my list of considerations.

*shrugs* what can you do? If it didn't happen here, it's likely it would have happened somewhere else on another thread.
I think it's a good thing that you did. How can anyone be made aware of how they make others feel if no one speaks up about it? Even if he doesn't listen to anything we say, it's better to speak up and try to bring awareness to the fact that he is making others feel uncomfortable and unwelcome as women. For me personally, down right angry. Otherwise he's just going to keep going on and on in the echo chamber he's created for himself.

I haven't used a sewing machine since high school, and I struggled with them a bit. It took some time getting comfortable with one since I started with hand sewing for years before hand but I did manage to make some cool projects (such as aforementioned book bag project) with the school ones despite some issues at times. I was pre-teens when I first learnt how to use a sewing machine, and I always fell back on hand stitching whenever I'd chicken out trying to use the machine for trickier projects haha. The peddle speed use to freak me out sometimes. It took some practice and patience but once I learned how to thread the machine, and pair it with some good ol' practice to build up my confidence, it became pretty easy. There are tutorials online for different sewing methods with hand stitching so I don't think it's far fetched to say there are probably just as many tutorials for how to use a sewing machine, and the methods to use with different projects. (When I buy myself a sewing machine I'll probably be looking up these things up as well :lol: ).

Sewing machines come in a lot of different brands and models, so find one that best suits what you want to make and your skill level. Before I made this thread I had no idea the kinds of things you should look for with a sewing machine so I'll refer you to an earlier comment by Lunar Dance 666 that helped me out:

Yikes, I’ll keep that noted then. Does the Singer models allow for smaller stitches that are close together? If the stitches themselves are smaller and tight together, then that’ll make for a much stronger stitch. Much neater too if you had good control with keeping stitching straight.

It makes me wonder what brand the sewing machines were that we used back in school. They were quite big and bulky but we were able to do a lot of different sewing projects on them without too many issues. The speed control was terrible, you had to be pretty gentle on the peddle to keep your stitching from being really wonky. The thread also broke constantly if you went just a bit too fast.
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This is the model that I used to have. I figured it'd be easier to show you and tell you whats what, than to explain it.
Here's a link for a user manual for its previous model:
http://sewingonline.co.uk/machines/singer257/

I bet you can find one for the model 258 online, but back when I had it, I could not.

Basicly, on the top left, above the needle, is a wheel that you use to adjust the pressure of the foot on your fabric.
(In my toyota thats an 'automatic' thing or in other words: Only one setting)
Then on the top right you have the place where your thread goes, and also right next to it the place where you can let the machine wind the thread on the spool for the underneath part.
I forgot exactly where the light switch was (is also the power button) its either on the right bottom next to the pug with the pedal attached to it, or on the back.
Then on the blue part, in which it Says Singer, from left to right:
Adjust stich width, Adjust where the needle goes, I think the last one might be the option for patchworking. or making embroidery. I've never used it tbh.
Then you have the small turning knob on the left. This is for adjusting the top pressure on the thread. If your thread breaks or snaps, you need to lessen the tension. Also do a presew on the fabric that you want to sew together. If the thread lays almost like a straight line on top, you need to lessen the tension, if the thread lays like a straight line on the bottom or has loops (which has happened a couple times to me, I've also ended up with knots a couple of times) you might need to adjust the tension on top and rewire the bottom.
Then on the big knob on the right is how to adjust the stitch length. (This is also non adjustable on Toyota, pretty much, it has a couple preset settings and you can't do anything else with it :/)

The handle to pull the foot up and down is at the back of the needle. You can't see it in this picture.

There's also an option up top, to put a pattern disk in. Then the machine would adjust the needle according to the pattern disk you put in, and you'd be able to sew said pattern.
I don't think I can show you an example of that though. :/ sorry.

But like I said, once this toyota is worn out (or perhaps I might sell it as a second hand) I'll go back to a Singer.
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Honestly for a long time, I thought all sewing machines were the same haha.

So basically find the right sewing machine that suits your needs and skill, practice on spare fabrics, go slow and you'll be just fine.

Hmm, 11 yrs old... Depending on her hand-eye-coordination skills and finger dexterity, I would recommend to start with hand sewing personally. This would help to develop and build up a really good foundation for her skills so that if she wants to start a project but doesn't have access to a machine, then she has a good back up. Especially for the tight spots in a project that are safer to do by hand than machine. There are sewing machines for beginners, and I've seen people talk about how they bought sewing machines for their kids, so she can definitely learn on a machine at her age if you're both comfortable with that.

Start with simple projects that will help develop her skills (machine or hand sewing), and can be completed in a day or two. For anyone starting something new, certainly for young kids, keeping up their motivation through quicker projects that are fun and engaging will keep them interested and continue to develop their skills for bigger projects. Simple stitch embroidery, plushies, circle skirts (very easy as a clothing option to make, and fun to twirl in - though it will require you to do a little math to make the right measurements), custom pillows/pillow cases, blankets, simple tote bag or book bag, finger puppets, etc, if she's interested in things like that.

As a kid, I found the most fun projects were making my own toys and the best part is you get to play with them afterwards. Even if it's not perfect but she still feels proud and happy after finishing a project and has the sparked desire to make more things, then you know you've done something right.

Ask your sister what she would like to make, let her design it if she wants, and you can go from there.

Here's an example of a circle skirt - info about it starts at around 6:40 min in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnNlX5_KPXs

Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy.

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

 

[Reyra]

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

*hugs prez*
There is a list where you can add friend or foe to in settings.

A lot of things used to affect me when I was younger. But I am mentally much stronger now than I was back then. I am not wrong and I should stop questioning myself and comparing myself to the "normal" people that are around. If you want to be extraordinary, then look for the people and things that uplift you. The extraordinary people that came before you, and those that are increasingly working on improving themselves, to be the best they can be.

Also you're welcome on joining in the chat about sewing, if it interests you.

Good to know this, thank you.

I should learn more from you. Actually, there was a time, when I had a strong mentality. Even my friends back then were considering me to be ''strong'', but someday people has broke me. Several years have passed and I am still recovering from some things, which happened to me. Maybe this is a reason, why I become more sensitive now, but it will be fine. I got people in my life, who always trying to lift me up, when I am down, as you say. I got their back too. I learned that I shouldn't shut up my emotion, but to talk about them. I has crossed with people, who where closing their emotion and not talking about them, just empty shells. This always had a bad ending, unfortunately.

Thank you. Sewing is an interesting topic for me. As I said before to tabby, I only were sewing plushies (only once a clothes for my old porcenail doll). I want to learning something new. This thread, which she made is excellent and really helpful.

 

[tabby]

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

No one cares how you feel. If you're such effected by my words that just means that you agree with me and that you feel guilty about agreeing with me ,which Is why you have this irrational hate towards me.

If you didn't agree with me, that would make my message irrelevant to you. The only reason its hitting home is because its personal.

Also *womp* *womp*

You seriously need to get your head out of your own arse, Jack.

I hope you don’t find a woman to settle with, because she will never get to be a healthy woman under the likes of you. Look at how you treat those who are not even your partner.

Words hurt no matter if it’s through a digital forum or face-to-face. But you wouldn’t know what it’s like to be bullied and put down just for being a specific sex by someone who is suppose to be your brother. Is this how you would talk to her face-to-face as your sister? Because if no, why do it here?

Since you believe so strongly that women can’t be leaders, then you should never let a woman raise your kids. A mother is a leader to her children, to guide them and nurture them, to teach them and raise them to be healthy strong adults. You should never let a female teacher school your child, you should never let a female doctor touch your kid, you should never let a female Guardian Demon guide your child in magick and spiritual advancement, and you should never use the meditations and information provided so generously by our female leader, High Priestess Pythia - because according to you "women can't be leaders".

If all you’re going to do here is be a dick to Zevism females, doom this and doom that, and contribute nothing to the OP, then go over to the thread jrvan made for the side topic you created and leave us the fuck alone.

 

[Jack]

Thank you both (Tabby and jrvan) for your comments and sticking with me on this side. Jack has been posting stuff like this over the past 2+ years. I tried to find the motivation, or his reasons for saying the same 'dumb' stuff over and over.
It's no use. He won't listen to any mortal, no matter what. Thats how stuck he is in his views.

Also Przebiśnieg ; I understand, having had more or less the same issue for a very long time, it is hard to regain confidence. And even I have days where my confidence just plummets again. Then its just very important to do what you like. And make sure you enjoy yourself and treat yourself well.

If this even drags on more, his comments on this topic, ya bet I will report them. This has gone on long enough. If you feel like you've said enough, feel free to quit replying.
We'll build our own positive understanding, together with people, that actually want to do the right thing.

Not some kind of person who doesn't even know what it is to be a woman (let alone show any understanding of being a HUMAN), and then judges us over it just because we are something he's not (or whatever the reason may be).

You are right. After reading some of his stuff, I believe it just broke me, but now I see it's not really worth my nerves. I was observing this forum for a very long time, maybe two years. Still remember some things he was writing, so I know what you're saying. It's not the first time, when he is saying stuff like this and I think you made the right call to finally address this matter. I tried to understand him, I agree with some of his view, but sometimes he is babbling bullshit. When I posted first post on this topic, I was thinking about others Zevism women, who are here or would want to join here. Imagine now reading his post. Wouldn't you be discouraged to be here? Because I was. I don't know, if there is an option here to block him, but it would save me the nerves. I admire Tabby and jrvan for patience in talking with Jack, because I don't see even a point. I thought it was a good thing that someone finally tried to talk with him, but now I see it's pointless. He stick to his view no matter what, he seems to not be open to others perspective, not even trying to understand others feelings at all, so it seems pointless.
And by the way if you ever would feel bad about yourself or something (like you wrote how you also have these days of lack of confidence) feel free to write to me. I will try to make you feel better and support you, after all, we should be supportive to each other. I got a lot to do by building my own confidence, but when it comes to others people, I am being very protective. I just hope he didn't affect you like he affected me before.

I understand how you feel. The guy has said some really edgy and shocking things in the past. He says things sometimes which even shock me. This was one notable example that I remember:

Let's say that this girl progressively comes to realize that you two may not be the right match, but every time she tries to bring up the issue you just brush it away, because by then you have committed "fanatically" to her and so if she has such thoughts she is wrong and you have to get these wrong thoughts out of her. Do you see how that might put the two of you on a dangerous slope? Especially considering your comment that you would cause her intense suffering for life if she ever cheated on you, and presumably to the other man as well who may not even know about you. That fanaticism might end up destroying 3 lives.

The girl should understand how important commitment is to you, but you shouldn't let that trump everything else. It is important to remain open to what's going on around you, to how the other person feels, and not decide for them how they should feel, otherwise she might become your unwilling slave afraid to leave for fear of intense torture.

What you describe seems to stem from the fear of abandonment, and I think you would get more fruitful and lasting results by working on overcoming that fear, rather than by subjecting your future partner to its spell. Otherwise you might end up in the mindset that she is your property, that you can do whatever you please with her, including ignoring how she feels. Don't forget to care about her and to listen.

If you tell her how important loyalty is to you and she still cheats on you then she wasn't the right one, no need for the "cause intense suffering for life" part. But if you are in a healthy relationship this shouldn't happen. And if she tried to explain to you for a while how she feels but you wouldn't listen, then you are partly responsible too.


(first post here hello everyone, I made a thread but it hasn't been approved yet)

By committing to life, I mean marriage. And if she won't agree to the terms I state, I'll simply not marry her. I'll have our astrological compatibility checked ,and it's highly unlikely that a strong astrologically compatible couple will break apart based on whimsical feelings.

Most people are confused and uncertain about everything in life. And they listen to what i have to say because I give them purpose and hope. If I ever start contemplating of dedicating my life to one woman, I'll make sure to turn her into the ideological soldier she's meant to be. Once she becomes like me, she won't ever be very focused or driven by feelings but by her commitment to me and to our religion. I'm not just a counterpart, I'm a teacher and leader authority figure in the same way. The Sanskrit word for teacher is "Swami" and it can be alternatively used in many regional languages to mean "Husband." I won't marry or commit to anyone who is having strong unwavering opinions contrary to me because that's idiotic to do.

Most women or men in general do not have strong opinions about anything in life. So I don't think itll be a very hard job to find someone compatible without strong opinions and condition her into getting my opinions and hold on to them unconditionally. And one of those conditioning processes would be to Trump commitment to everything else.

This is a boomeresque thing where they put importance to their transient feelings instead of their behavior and ideology. They doomed this world by their whimsical feelings.

And if it's someone who is just in a relationship with me and I haven't committed to her, but she betrays me knowing about my conditions which is improbable , she will get what she deserves. Actions have consequences and punishment must be handed down. The guy will suffer as well as the girl. If she wanted to opt out ,she could just say so. But an implicit betrayal is an attack on me which I have to retaliate. And there's absolutely no way that anyone I've vetted and moulded into an ideological soldier of mine will ever betray me and so its just can't happen in a marriage type situation.

If all of this is sounding strange, then its because I don't feel the same love that you do and so your version of love doesn't exist for me. I feel love in the Dominance and Submission way and so I can only feel it in this way. I can't forgive or forget and I can't love unconditionally another person.

^ I don't know how any sane individual could read that as well as sensing the energy vibe, and not think it's psychopathic.

Anyway, he seems oblivious to me. I don't know how to penetrate that level of unawareness and self assurance that he's right. I don't think anyone can reach him. But now he has had a few women let it be known what they think of him, and that he makes people uncomfortable. If it were me, and many wise people from various walks of life were all reacting to me the same way and giving the same general feedback, then I wouldn't cling to the assumption that I'm right and every single one of them is wrong. I would consider the idea that maybe I'm wrong, and meditate on what is being told to me.

But I'm not Jack. I can't do Jack's thinking for him. If he believes that he is right then he's not going to change his mind, but he is going to have to simply accept that his actions cause people to dislike him. I think the biggest irony here would be if he feels the same way, that we are the fools who won't consider his side nor listen to what he is saying even though we proved otherwise. If he truly feels unheard then I'm going to laugh. It's not at all the case that people haven't considered his side and point of view. Especially since you kind of have to understand someone's argument as best as you can in order to make an effective counterargument.

Shadowcat, Tabby, and others have shown through their recounted experiences and wisdom of the world that numbers don't explain everything. There are many factors which are unaccounted for by the numbers and stats.

I forgot to add. Another crucial requirement is that she perpetually keep her hair short. Anything beyond Shoulder length is completely unacceptable.

 

[tabby]

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Hey tabby, I was wondering if you had any books or recommendations on drawing your own patterns. I did get a book as a present once and I tried to follow its instructions but the formula for one of the measurements were off, and I got stuck there. And I haven't done anything with it since.

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I wanted to add here, that I bought a nice top for in the heat of summer (speaking 30 C humid weather) which turned out to be polyester. It felt a little scratchy and didn't feel nearly as breatheable as any cotton I'd wear. Even a tshirt of some kind of viscose elasthan blend or something feels like it's more breathable than that thing.

At first I was thinking I'll take the pattern off of it and donate it but I think I might just replace the poly part of it with some cotton fabric. It does have lace on top and straps. Not sure if the lace part is polyester though. I think I'd like to try and remove the color of the lace though. And make the shirt part a different color too.

Oh ye I saw someone on youtube going to the thrift store, buying second hand bedsheets and turning those into clothes. Also great for mock-ups. Why hadn't I thought of it, lol? Learned many things from just watching people sew on youtube. Makes me want to sew again (I haven't really sewn much so far though).

It's been a long time since I've been able to sew again, so I need to search around and start collecting up pattern books myself. For the past roughly two years, I've been nonstop researching to prepare my knowledge for tackling historical clothing.

I can recommend two books, and they're available online luckily. The only thing is these books are very old but they do work. For the Keystone one I'd recommend reading through the whole thing start to finish because the format is as I've explained in the OP how some pattern books can be.

Needle Work and Cutting Out by Agnes Walker:
https://archive.org/details/krl00366374/mode/2up

Recently one of the youtubers we both seem to watch also used this book for darning. (Darning for anyone who didn't know already is what you do when you get a whole in your clothes in order to fix it):
https://youtu.be/dWfkDfFryJs

The Keystone Jacket and Dress Cutter:
https://archive.org/details/keystonejacketdr00heck/mode/2up

You spoke about a pattern drafting book earlier in this thread. Is this the one you were referring to? I found a copy on Amazon for anyone who wants to check it out.

Turn of the Century Fashion Patterns and Tailoring Techniques by Zevism Gordon, with introduction - by Kristina Harris:
https://www.amazon.com/Century-Fashion-Patterns-Tailoring-Techniques/dp/0486412415

If anyone or yourself is also looking for pre-existing patterns that you don't have to draw up (just adjust to your size), I'd recommend ones from Simplicity sewing patterns. There's one I've been wanting to get from them for making cloaks/capes (because cloaks are just cool) and I know it works so I trust that brand to make good patterns. They have everything from new to old style stuff, and even costumes.

https://www.simplicity.com/simplicity-storefront-catalog/patterns/

I don't know if that last part is quoted wrong but yeah, polyester - no go for summer. Btw great idea about second hand bed sheets for mockups! I'll probably use that idea in practice myself haha.

If anyone has pattern books or magazines that they've worked with before and know works, please feel free to link them here.