Jack said:
tabby said:
Przebiśnieg said:
Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)
As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.
Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.
Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:
"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz
And thank you, all the best!
The majority of men think this way ,they're just afraid to say it due to the fear of being labeled misogynistic. This view is especially prevalent among Right Wing men who are either Pagans or otherwise. Especially if they've studied National Socialism, they have the same aversion to Feminist ideals as I do. All of them (who will inherit the earth) have the idea of wives with traditional values. 90% of them do. It's also the prevalent belief on this forum. If we were to conduct a poll, no man cares about a womans finances or anything related to being independent or liberated to the point where women aren't dating men for being Economically Unattractive. The only thing a man cares about is that a woman cares for his children. Finances and a job are separate icings on the cake.
A man who is a CEO will gladly marry a woman who is a schoolteacher while on a balance of probabilities, a Woman who is a CEO will not even look at a broke mans way.
All of this disparity is created to artificially tinkle with the womans value approval circuitry to make it harder for them to reproduce.
Men dedicate their lives to a higher purpose. Their lives are lives of sacrifice for their families.
Liberating women and breaking down the Patriarchy was a tactic specifically used by Yehuborim to tank the white birth rate. The Yehuborim Sociologist, Theodore Adorno explained this in the Authoritarian Personality. He devised that if women were liberated, they would destroy the families and as a result they could replace the below replacement level populations by Foreigners.
This wouldn't be an issue if you were living in Japan ,but this is an issue of your living in the US or Europe.
I must be a strange anomaly then because i do hear guys often complain that women only care about their wallets. Alot of women really are used to being treated like princesses sadly but i know alot of guys also have their own heads up their asses as well and are far from husband material, which are the majority sadly. I also know the dynamic of the relationship depends on the charts of the two.
I met my ex boyfriend of almost 9 years when i was 21. I took initiative with everything. I was the one immigrating to Europe and had to do everything on my end for the paperwork. I saved up money to start up a life to move over there as i wanted to invest in a life together. I meant more to him and his mother financially than anyone else had in their entire lives. And in the end it was only bitched about that i didnt do more. especially from his mother, who in the end clearly showed i was taken for granted which royally pissed me off. I would give my ex grocery money every week, literally 200 euros a week which he would buy food for...but also went luxury shopping with it partially which i was very displeased with and told him this. He was on welfare the whole time we were together, and in the end actyally went back to school and aimed to finish his studies. i was the bread winner and was fine with this,(this is also something in my chart) as i had someone i thought i fit really well with, who had a very kind and nurturing side which i am attracted to in men, and despite the bad times we tried to get through...till we couldnt anymore, as i began to see through things, totally unrelated to finances about how this wasnt going to last. he started going on about having kids and i went uh uh.
number one im not going to work and have kids at the same time...that is insanity and literally working two jobs especially with small and young children up to the age of 12 who i would never leave home alone.
number two europe is a commie shithole where 2000 to 3000 euros a month if one is lucky is literally the best income after taxes for most people...and in many cases is barely enough for even 1 person to live on let alone two or a family with kids. He refused to move to the states with me. however the US is worse off to be fair in many aspects as well.
number three based on my observation of many many people over the years in my 20s and up till now first and second hand, i am almost certain if i was to marry someone and attempt to have a family with him i would most likely be on the street with in the decade if not 5 years. because believe it or not...no the women do not always get their way in court. ive seen it. AND on top of that me being left for whatever reason (probably for someone more attractive or younger, or other)
would leave me with nothing to fall back on materially because i put my trust in someone i wanted to have a family with.
all the men i have been approached by after my ex were either closet polys or complete manipulators who only cared for themselves, or ones who already had wives! and the last two fall under the very latter...it had me shaking my head.
Like any decent white i want an aryan reich with the family unit back..but i want a man i can trust and be enough for that will be just as attracted to me as i am to him who isnt going to up and leave me or be a selfish manchild or mistreat me. show me those men jack because i would really love one just like any sane woman would, but what i have to offer and would want to give to a family unit no longer has the hospitality of society, and from my end this is not a product of feminism. I just dont want to get hurt or betrayed.
I grew up thinking everything entailing the "patriarchy" or women following men basically only entailed abuse oppression , and cold misuse of human beings as property. because growing up xtian this was literally the only example i was shown. obey husband or get hit. It actyally gave me an unconsious deep seeded hatred for men for a long time...i looked back at those years, and especially realising how i dont give a shit about the kind of attention most women do and how i literally find almost no men attractive even physically, i told myself that i was suprised that i wasnt a lesbian. And all the while deep down i still always wanted a normal relationship with someone.
Feminists often take the male nature as wanting to influence a woman, or to solve her problems or not letting her do something as an insult...when in many cases rejecting this it can actually come accross to the man as saying "stop i dont want you to care about me" because that is literally all he is doing. (and this is minus the bachanded compliments, or condescending types who ARE abusive) i have had guys do this on the job alot too. i dont get mad. but i let them know i recongise benevolent intent, and depending on the case will explain a practical reason why i have to insist to do something they are scared i will get hurt by ect. Oftentimes if guys do the above all the time or at least alot it means he loves you. and i dont mean in taking orders like a dog, but also letting someone influence you tells them you trust them and want them to care. for guys this is a big deal especially with their families. and this is what i learned what the aryan race values are with men and women and family...which is much better than the abrahamic version of "you will do what i tell you or get slapped"
Especially after unlearning alot of xtian bullshit about men and women and the Nazi ideology of women i am seeing still a system where women do follow and are under men but it is one out of love and care and just basically nature. i am probably going to piss some people off in this debate which could be either side and please guys dont take it personally i am just giving my take.
ofcourse women should still be given freedom of choice ie, choice to choose the best possible mate to make the best possible family with, making the choices that will make her happy as long as they dont hurt others, and yes finantial independance but not to the point of hurting the family.
Right now we are in a system where Yehuborim have totaled the family unit. so weather any woman or man likes it or not everyone has to work. Now this is bad in the sense that in countries like the US for example, most people work 50 to 60 hour weeks maybe more 6 to 7 days a week just to make ends meet, and in the worse case scenario both mom AND dad have to do that. that is not ok for the kids. This is just my personal opinion. but i dont think a woman should want to work and have kids at the same time if she can help it...it just isnt natural for young kids to go without their mom, AND it isnt healthy for the mom mentally or physically. i would go insane. but you know what? things are set up like that on purpose nowadays so people who have kids often have no choice unless the dad is very successful. and ofcourse you have women who just want this or make it a point to go for muh career cus muh feminism which is ofcourse retarded. i mean theres alot of other meaningful things id rather do than working 6 10s or 7 12s just to be dirty all day, (like focusing purely on warfare, spirituality and advancement, being close to the Gods, and maybe hopefully a partner i could be madly inlove with) but it was either that or be in 1000s of dollars in debt for a degree i got no job for so ended up in a grocery store, but no that happend to my bro before the military.
financial independace for women in this day and age however is also a good thing in the sense that, well, what if a woman cannot find a husband? what if men think she is too ugly or dull ect and wont marry her? And yes there are many people out there who are not endowed with good looks, or who have other issues which im sorry to say, yes DO matter, because beauty signals health and vitality meaning strong children, and this goes for both men and women. This is not being shallow but our biologial imparative. Another mistake alot of people make is thinking women dont care about looks. WE DO. and guess what. if we bitch about wanting a guy to look good for us we better be ready to put the effort for the same in return as best as possible. Its sad how most people simple just dont give a shit. they only preen to attact a mate and when they attract they drop the act...sigh. well damn youd think if it attracted someone you should keep it up right? :roll:
Also, there are many women with husbands who end up being abusive or who cheat and leave. my moms dad up and left for example and MANY guys have tried to cheat with me on their wives and i mercilessly turned them down, disgusted thinking how i would be in the wifes position with kids.
if above said women cannot find a husband, or find themselves in the second situation but is not allowed financial independance what is she to do? I fundimentally and strongly disagree with women residing with a spouse who is abusive especially physically, and certainly am against this being forced for any reason. an abusive husband to me would be dead.
despite looks also mattering, yes WHO the person is still makes or breaks. i met one person i was physically attracted to in the past and could feel absolutely nothing for him because of who he was despite the stupid grugette response.
I have seen the statistics you post jack about mostly women initiating the divorces, however in my personal experience i have seen enough personally to know the majority of men i would run into would not last for whatever reason. the only reason i did infact leave, despite staying for so long, was because i was cheated on and lied to about it...twice. i am glad i did not have kids with him..after almost 9 years, and sacrificing everything for someone i thought was the one over 5k kilometers away. I maintain my finantial independance not out of feministic ideology but becase i can trust no man to take that role over so that we can form a family unit without him turning. And yes, if it satisfies you to know, it does make me feel very empty. But i know how people are and the way the world works, and that my neptunian approach to a partner would be, (and has been and mostly only) abused by the wrong person. selecting the wrong mate can literally land you homeless on the street. I was just talking to one of my boilermaker instructors the other day and he was telling us about his second wife. she was dumped by her previous husband. he literally told her to take her shit and leave. boom. homeless and single just like that. no thanks. its not only the women who do this to the men, and i have heard of and been told many cases such as this. the guy was also a nutjob and they had 2 murders on him that they couldnt prove.
I am also not advocating that getting married for women should be forced, in order to be able to keep a roof, but i do believe that if things are advertised right and Yehuborim propaganda reversed, men and woman in general will all, at least the majority will strive for a partner and family and will WANT this and will be happy with this especially if this is approached with the right mindsets and values. We are social creatures and no one wants to die alone when old. nothing has to be forced and this has nothing to do with oppression, but many women, excluding ones who actually have been battered and abused or deprived, have been given the illusion of oppression. Especially since there were women in ancient times like Hypatia, which is also something that is very fine for women.
I also understand some of your and others points about certain drastic measures to preserve our race and family, however when i say i understand, i undersand where and why that sentiment comes....as it has the same endhopes and intents as i. A world ruled by the aryan race with aryan values without Yehuborim.
But i do not believe producing tons of illigitimate children will help solve this problem. look how all the illigitimate children end up. degenerates, druggies, and bums. hardly ones you can call warriors. sure, alot end up in gangs and see action. but i dont see them developing the mentality to the cause of a greater good such as this being in such an environment, infact, it would be in their nature of rebellion and not giving a shit to say fuck the greater good. having nothing but people such as these as offspring and to propagate with will infact only degenerate the white race to a shadow of its former ancestors, doing the white race a disservice..many of those illigitimates will also be impressionable and even perhaps be brainwashed by the wrong side, especially with an absent father. i believe in quality over quantity and that if drastic measures are to be taken...well. i dont think most of those ideas of mine would be allowed to be typed here let alone be safe.
Besides, who will provide the finacial means to care for them, in the case they somehow would grow up looking to the right cause and not in criminality? if the father isnt around and the mother may not work then who? And even if the father is, if half of his taxes go to israel and he can barely provide for one child, how will he for many others? we definately don't want the Yehuborim state doing that either, especially because if they do ie in a foster home or orphanage, they grow up fucked for sure...and with all the Yehuborim feminist books now adays in the daycare edition to boot.
We women are emotional and nurturing. Yehuborim propaganda ruined many women that used emotions and manipulation. we need propaganda that will reverse this that uses emotions and womans primal wants and needs and we need mens help with this, as well as they also need to be deprogrammed from the dross of Yehuborim society and reprogramed with meaninful values that will give them incentives to engage in proper families again. and all this done the right way will make the sexes as a whole trust one another again and NEED each other.
Lastly the ZOG must come down. this is a must for ANY hope of normal family life, especially a families financial stability. as long as everyones wages go to pissreal instead of their familes and kids, no matter how many women wake up from feminist propaganda and want to stay home for kids, and have families they aint gunna have money from the dads to FEED the kids...if any then barely for the majority.
it is in my hope ofcourse that in the new reich our men and women will be taught real values about family and how to treat each other. They will take care of their minds and bodies to advance their souls, be close to the Gods and remain attracted to and close to each other.
especially in the new era, finding the right partner and family should be something that happens organically if it is meant to be so for someone, which again i am sure many would then want.
