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Making clothes at home - For Meteor

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!
 
Przebiśnieg said:
I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Please do not stray from or be driven away from forums because of feeling hurt. Thuis is a very good resource for you and can help you grow. Please know the people you don't vibe well with can be put on an ignore list so that you will not longer see their posts. Don't allow yourself to be driven away.
 
jrvan said:
According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.
If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.
 
Przebiśnieg said:
I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

You're not alone, conflicts often make me feel like the equivalent of a stressed out hognose snake.

And it's not your fault. Jack had already started to derail the topic before you spoke up about your feelings, which is a good thing that you did. He is being manipulative, rude, and a jerk out of his own choice, not because you somehow hurt him. All you've done is try to express how Jack has made you feel from his words, and he returned it with insults and dismissive remarks. Do not accept behaviour like that from others, and do not apologise to them for the hurt they have put on you. That will only have you accept the negative energy from them onto yourself, which is not something you deserve. You have done nothing wrong.

"Feeling Sorry?" by HPS Pythia:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=17765&p=66584&hilit=Feeling+sorry?#p66584

Feelings and emotions are meant to be expressed, not shut down out of worry or fear that we may hurt another or seem weak and crazy. Emotions and feelings do not make a person weak. (They can make someone very strong when they are in balance and healthily expressed, instead of being shoved down and turned to stone). If we went our whole lives trying to avoid that, we would only hurt ourselves and become isolated, and problems will get worse until something snaps.

As I've said before somewhere in this thread, if things are not expressed a person won't know or be aware of how they make others feel and they will continue to be stuck in their ways and behaviour towards other people. If that person continues to dismiss your emotions and hurt you, they need to be cut out from your life for the sake of your own health (for online things - block or mute buttons).

If you hadn't spoke up, would you have gotten the chance to find out that there are others who feel the same way as you do, and that this issue is not isolated? My motto for life is that "things happen for a reason" (regardless of who is causing that reason, and whether it's positive or negative). This is a good chance for you to gain some growth as a person.

Take a break, use the prayer mudra (I find it always helps to meditate with that mudra when I'm stressed or can't fall asleep), and come back with a fresh mind. You came here for a reason, and you don't have to act alone. Take this as an opportunity to gain more confidence and stability within yourself, and learn how to handle negative people in a healthy way, otherwise people will continue to walk on you throughout your life. I know what that's like, and all it leads to is an energetic cage that just draws more negative people to yourself. If you make yourself feel small on the inside, many people can pick up on that subconsciously and attack you in greater or subtler ways even if they are good people.

Remember one key thing, how strong do you want to be? Because only you can decide that and work for it. There are always going to be awful people, and stressful situations that make you want to run away and get it out of your life. So take this time now to learn and figure out how to better deal with stress and negativity without it being a detriment to your advancement.
 
To get things back on topic...
If anyone is interested, here are some really cool books to check out that I've seen other historical style seamstresses use. You can buy them online as well (might need to search around different websites though).

1) Patterns of Fashion by Janet Arnold
2) The 17th Century Dress Patterns collection from the V&A
3) Draping for Fashion Design by Hilde Jaffe and Nurie Relis

Patterns of Fashion by Janet Arnold - comes in 5 volumes.
Volume 1 - Englishwomen’s dress and their construction, 1660 - 1860
Volume 2 - Englishwomen’s dress and their construction, 1860 - 1940
Volume 3 - The cut and construction of clothes for men and women, 1540 - 1620
Volume 4 - The cut and construction of linen shirts, smocks, neckwear, headwear and accessories for men and women, 1540 - 1660
Volume 5 - The content, cut, construction and context of bodies, stays, hoops and rumps, 1595 - 1795
Volume 6 - Coming soon


http://quitespecificmedia.com/ - has Volumes 1 - 4
https://shop.theschoolofhistoricaldress.org.uk/

The 17th Century Dress Patterns collection from the V&A - comes in 3 volumes.
Volume 1 - 17th Century Women’s Dress Patterns Book One
Volume 2 - 17th Century Women’s Dress Patterns Book Two
Volume 3 - 17th Century Men’s Dress Patterns


Volume 1-3 be found here: https://www.vam.ac.uk/shop/books.htmll

The pattern used in one of the videos I linked in the OP (modern walking skirt) came from this store:
https://trulyvictorian.info/index.php/shop/
 
Przebiśnieg said:
tabby said:

Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy. :)

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother :)

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!
 
tabby said:
Przebiśnieg said:
tabby said:

Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy. :)

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother :)

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
jrvan said:
According to Jack, it's not okay to talk about him and he has to unleash his pent up bear fury upon anyone who dares. What kind of tyranny is that, Jack? Huh? Who is the one who can't cope with mean things being said about them on the internet? It looks like it's YOU.

Never say anything bad about Jack in side discussion, everyone. Apparently that's illegal according to our overlord with the bear fangs. Yeah, never say anything even if many people are feeling the same way about him and even if it's true. Even if he's being a dick. Just don't say it.

And to anyone who calls me a hypocrite for this after my past freak out with SouthernWhiteGentile, I want to say that I've grown since then, and also to point out that at least what these women are saying about Jack is more constructive and truthful than calling someone a cuck.
If I'm mischaracterizes in a public space I'll have to defend myself. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. If you say something that is false or a mischaracterization of what I've said I'll have to confront you.

Nobody is allowed to their own opinion of you then, even if justified. That's what you're saying? You're changing your story. First it's a personal attack, and now you say that people can't discuss about you with each other publicly. And you call her the victim...

First you say that feelings don't matter, and you don't give a shit what people think of you. Now you're making a big fuss over people discussing you. Which is it? Do you care what people think of you, or not? Because if it matters to you so much then you shouldn't be surprised about people thinking this way of you based on your callous behavior around the forums. What did you expect? Did you think people were going to have a favorable view of you when you regularly spit on them? And then fold your arms like "pfft feelings don't matter, feelings are for pussies."

This is too stupid. You're getting a taste of the fruits of your labor, and seeing for the first time what your brothers and sisters think of you and how they feel about you. You can't handle it. If you don't like it then make a change for the better because these people aren't going to change their minds about you with the way you are now. No one has done you injustice, and you're not the victim here. No one has defamed you, nor offered an untrue analysis of your character. Everything here is a product of your own doing, and what you are seeing is everyone's reaction.

Your lack of self awareness will be your undoing.
When I'm painted in a bad light I have to present my view of the issue so that everyone reading gets a balanced view.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't talk about me. Feel free to do so. But I'm going to present my side of the argument so that everyone is aware of the statistics and facts and can see how outliers are taken out of context.

When I presented the facts, everyone here started personally attacking me and moving into specific outliers and instances that don't disprove anything I've said.

It only makes me look terrific that the groupthink of being unable to think critically drives people's behavior like you all have done. And that I still haven't fallen unto pressure because of Shaming tactics and I never will.
 
Jack said:
jrvan said:
Jack said:
...
I can't make anyone like or dislike me. If you do that's fine. I'll keep repeating the message I've always done to the overwhelming majority of the Right Wingers who agree with me and will inherit the world as they haven't taken the vaccine.

Bringing the generalized rules of random women you met somewhere and repeating them like a robot, as if they are "universal patterns" that also affect women here, is rather stupid. Basically just incompatible with the current environment here.

I doubt any woman of the caliber you speak and always pre-occupy your time over [because to have constructed such a perception of the world, you focus on the majority of them]. Also, stop reading the rants of Happa Anglin that had to go all the way to Thailand to find the weakest woman on earth to get some sex, because these are have seriously damaged your judgement.

You think most of the West is a hellhole of whores, because of some pictures you saw online. This is not the average median behavior, if anything, but in New York and in some other specific places. Original systems of women and many of them being sane still, is actually the fact, not the reverse. As about leftist loonies you have in mind, these are not a majority.

However, the more women are deterred from this stupid behavior that many "awake" males represent [rife with autism and virginity], women will be dissuaded from being in any place where correct thinking takes place. You following Happa Anglin methodology and Christian Conservatism "values" thinking these are attractive, you are only asking for a repetitive failure.

External symptoms of the same behavior, can have different motivations in people here. Not everyone is evoking mercy or trying to whine. If a person relies their problems here, is not your pity attention festival 99% of the time, but to get help and to improve.

You are not acting on a fundamnetal level differently at this point than any feminist who spends all her time trying to reason out that most men are weak phallocratic pigs, and provides data evidence for it. The common denominator here is complete lack of awareness of the individual cases, where one is, and how this relates to the whole. The bridge is always missing here.

This worthless idiocy of this repetitive pattern, you think is manly or masculine, but consistent whinning on the behavior of women, accompanied with incapacity to change this behavior how a man should, screams deficiency of the right wing, which constantly whines 24/7 about what is happening with "Women". They have no solution other than crying about it, but crying in big muslces and tears, and hoping for Jesus to return to make things "right" again.

The covering of this deficiency is the illusion that people who think like you are "Masters of Women" or the "Masters of the Feminine" or something, while most of them can hardly get any girl to do anything with them, revealing all the bullshit about "Attraction to Sexists" and all this nonsense, bullshit.

Women in their mind "Might" be thinking these things, but in reality, they follow other routes of action in contrast to these perceived attractions, and more things. The whole "Alt-right" and much of the general right suffers from this, and they don't want to accept this illness.

The same spirit of whimping is behind these patterns, and the same spirit of how most men on the right are quite autistic. This is also why many of the "Pencil neck leftists" that you think are inferior, do sometimes end up with some really beautiful women.

Some are breeding their wives like rabbits, and so on, while many on the "Alt Right" sit with their cock in their hands doing nothing, but saying theories about what women will find them attractive for just lifting weights or something. They also attract the utterly submissive type which is only one singular type of woman [if even this] and does not serve the whole palette of a balanced society. n

Regardless, limit the kvetching and toxicity of the landmass of average women, where it belongs. In fact that's not even the average woman out there. It's not really in here.
 
Shadowcat said:
tabby said:
Przebiśnieg said:
...

I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum

haha I’ve never heard someone use the word “fatassery” before :lol:

WHAT?! Dude! Oh man, you’re making me hungry. Ok proposal, one day after all this crazy shit - cook out, I’ll make the desserts and you make the main meal - what do ya say? ;)

jrvan mentioned getting together for Oktoberfest lol.
 
Aquarius said:
Shadowcat said:
steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

Shadowcat said:
put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner :p

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:
 
Meteor said:
Aquarius said:
In my opinion, unless there is financial tension, one should either be a mother, or a worker, not both.

I think it's fine if you can work from home, especially if it's something you enjoy such as painting, writing or making clothes.
Either way, taking time off during and after pregnancy makes sense.

That for me would be fucking awesome as i like all of those things. i do drawings though not paintings. if it would make a good size stable income and let me work from home i would change my daytime job in a heartbeat, despite the fact that i do like being physically active and enjoy creating and doing what i do at work...but not the hazards that come with it. *looks at the burn on my wrist from the other day* :x :p. Flashburn is a bitch too and the worst. feels like a sunburn in the eyes. ive had metal slivers taken out of my eyes with a small knife...twice x.x. alot of accidents have been my own stupid fault though. i can be impulsive, too daring and accident prone. ty mars and sun lmao.
 
tabby said:
Aquarius said:
Shadowcat said:
steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

Shadowcat said:
put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner :p

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

:D :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
tabby said:
Shadowcat said:
tabby said:

I love to bake! I picked up my moms recipies of holiday cookies, taffy, and brownies, fudge and other things...all fatassery but yea :lol:

I can also cook if i have a mind to, ive made steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs...made it up myself..tasted delicious :3. can put that with baked potato, or corn, salad ect. i can also make saurkraut with sausage from my great grandma and some lebanese dishes from my dads mom. the one with cabbage is awesome
yum

haha I’ve never heard someone use the word “fatassery” before :lol:

WHAT?! Dude! Oh man, you’re making me hungry. Ok proposal, one day after all this crazy shit - cook out, I’ll make the desserts and you make the main meal - what do ya say? ;)

jrvan mentioned getting together for Oktoberfest lol.

Aww man yall are making me hungry now! lmao I would love that haha. Heres to the day the enemy is gone where we can all drink and celebrate to standing on their ashes! Sooonnnn. :twisted:

Be prepared though for itisfood! >:)
 
Jack said:
tabby said:
Przebiśnieg said:
Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips. :)

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!
The majority of men think this way ,they're just afraid to say it due to the fear of being labeled misogynistic.

I totally disagree and I already told you a couple days ago that this goes too far.
 

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